metastatic (hope i spelled that right....) cancer

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Hi, does anyone have any holistic suggestions for cancer that has spread to the bones years after having it in the breast? This is happening to my mom, and I'm looking for anything that could possibly help along with her treatment. Thank you so much.

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  • HLB
    HLB Member Posts: 1,760
    edited September 2012

    I was recently diagnosed with spinal mets after 7 years. I'm not an expert but I have been doing hours per day od trying to find out the same thing ever since I found out. Here is what I am taking:



    Turmeric 1800, boswellia 1200, maitake d fraction extract 100 ml (30drops), vit D3 10000 iu, calcium 600, vit C 4000. So far....I have a few things I'm looking into and want to ask Onc about. There are a few ladies on here who are really knowledgable about supplements and they will probably reply. I also cut out all sugar and making smoothies out of veggies and fruits, and quit eating meat. Cut down pizza to once a week. Can't do without that completely!

  • heyjudette
    heyjudette Member Posts: 15
    edited September 2012

    Thanks for replying!  I'm going to tell my mom to look into the supplements; she actually was interested in the tumeric before all this happened, so I have a feeling she'll definitely be on board for that.  The only problem with diet is that she also has small tumors in her abdomen that according to the doctor are the reason she's lost a lot of weight within the past 6 months (she tries to eat but gets filled up so quickly it's almost impossible for her.)  But maybe the smoothies of veggies and fruit will be easier on her stomach, and of course healthy.  Thanks again for replying!

  • HLB
    HLB Member Posts: 1,760
    edited September 2012

    I'm surprised no one else has replied yet. If you read some of the posts in this section I'm sure you will find lots of info. I was just reading the other day that turmeric is hard to absorb and you need the kind that comes with something else in it that is made from black pepper. I'm going to look for that kind because I think turmeric is one of the important more powerful cancer fighting ones. Disappointing because I just $45 on the last bottle.

  • Tina72
    Tina72 Member Posts: 484
    edited September 2012

    You can get the actual turmeric root at whole foods, peel it and put about a half inch in your smoothie. I would suggest seeing a nutritionist preferably one that works with cancer patients so your mom gets supplements that work with her treatment.

  • Rosetapper
    Rosetapper Member Posts: 7
    edited September 2012

    Yes, there are several VERY HOPEFUL holistic approaches that may help your mother.  I currently have metastatic breast cancer of the lymphatic system.  My alopathic options are nonexistent at this time because I've either already had all of the available chemotherapies or am unable to have them due to bad reactions.  There have been very successful clinical trials throughout the world (including the University of Washington) with regard to Artemisinin.  Artemisinin is derived from the Artemesia plant, and has three derivatives that have proven helpful in fighting ALL cancers successfully:  Artemisinin, Artesunate, and Artemether.  The clinical trials have shown that the cancer in people who take this supplement either stops spreading, is reduced, or goes into remission.  That's right--remission!!  When my cancer metastasized to my lymphatic system, I felt extremely ill, and I immediately contacted one of the lead researchers at the University of Washington, who directed me to purchase the pharmaceutical grade product that was used in clinical trials in East India, and he also provided me with the protocol (which is important, because you have to follow a low-iron diet and take the product 3-4 hours after eating).  Artemisinin works in a unique way:  It is attracted to cells that contain an abnormally large amount of iron (these are cancer cells), it enters those cells, and then a peroxide action occurs--the cells explode, killing them instantly.  As you can imagine, MANY cancer cells are killed with every dose of Artemisinin.  It also crosses the blood-brain barrier to kill cancer cells in the brain, and it is capable of killing cancer cells in the lungs and bones.  If you do a keyword search and read about the studies done on it, you'll see that it has been determined to be far more effective than any chemo currently on the market, without side effects.  It is also anti-estrogenic and anti-progesterone.

    Nine days after I started the protocol provided by the researcher from the University of Washington, all of my symptoms disappeared.  I've been in good health and symptom-free since then (five months), and my oncologist is both astounded and pleased with my progress.  Of course, some of my lymph nodes are still somewhat enlarged, but my goal is remission....so I've stepped up the amount that I take (which is closer to what was used in the studies in Heidelberg).  I'm currently taking Artemix (which contains all three dervatives) plus three capsules of Artemisinin from Wellcare Pharmaceutical Company, P. O. Box 2858, Palos Verdes, CA 90274 (http://www.hepalin.com/artemix.http).  Studies also show that Artemisinin can be 35% more effective if taken with four capsules of calcium magnesium butyrate (http://www.jigsawhealth.com/supplements/butyrex) at the same time.  I only recently purchased this product (which tastes and smells absolutely horrid), and I plan to add it to the Artemix and Artemisinin that I already take.  Because absorption of Artemisinin can drop off, your mother might consider taking it nightly for 6-8 weeks and then stop taking it for three days in order to build up her absorption and then resume taking it for the following four nights.  She can continue with this regimen of 3 off/4 on thereafter and should have good results.

    Also, there is a product called AngioBlock, which is simply Bindweed, the most common weed found in America.  It works similarly to Faslodex but without the bad side effects, such as diarrhea.  It keeps cancer tumors from establishing blood vessel networks so that they eventually starve from lack of nutrients and die.  I've been taking it twice a day for eight weeks, and I think it's probably doing "something" because all of the abnormal blood vessels in my skin (matting due to failed schlerotherapy as well as hemangioma birthmarks) have disappeared completely.  Again, my oncologist is amazed and is planning to share this information with other doctors, who may wish to know of a potential new way to treat cavernous hemangiomas in children.

    Lastly, there is Poly-MVA, a metallo-vitamin that boosts the immune system so that it can fight off cancer.  It's VERY expensive ($900 per month initially for Stage IV cancer), and I'm about to begin taking it.  Again, remission is my goal.  Of course, I can't afford $900 per month, but my brother recently received a huge bonus and is willing to spend part of it to help me fight my cancer....and he has offered to buy this treatment for six months to see if it helps me.  

    I suppose I should also mention that I recently attended a breast cancer conference in Sacramento where a doctoral student presented the results of her research into "unexpected remissions."  I won't go into everything she presented; however, one of the attendees I met told me that her breast cancer metastasized to her lymphatic system and bones back in 1988....and all she did was meditate/visualize two hours a day and follow a macrobiotic diet with lots of juicing.  She said that the cancer simply "went away."  The doctor student noted that both meditation/visualization and juicing with a diet high in fruits and vegetables were used by ALL persons she interviewed who had gone into remission.  Just FYI...

    I hope that some of these suggestions help.  Please, though, order some of the Artemix and Artemisinin right away--most people see improvements after 7-14 days.  If you have questions about the protocol, Dr. Narendra Singh of the University of Washington is very helpful.  He can be reached at narendra@u.washington.edu.  Good luck!

  • lightandwind
    lightandwind Member Posts: 754
    edited September 2012

    Rosetapper that was fascnating info. I've been researching it and very interested in trying these. Thanks so much for posting.  I wanted to let you know that I looked up the ingredients for the poly-mva, and they can be found in supplements and food, so it looks to me like it's not necessary to spend all that money. you can pick up the ingredients at the healthfood store for a lot less. Hope this helps. thanks again... 

    http://www.polymva.com/ingredients-of-Poly-MVA.html 

    http://www.cancer.org/Treatment/TreatmentsandSideEffects/ComplementaryandAlternativeMedicine/HerbsVitaminsandMinerals/molybdenum

  • lightandwind
    lightandwind Member Posts: 754
    edited September 2012

    Here are the supplements I take:

    1. D3

    2. tumeric at least 1500-3000 mg's per day

    3 green tea- life extensions has a good standardized extract

    4. pecta sol citrus pectin

    5. IP6

    6. red rasberry powder

    7. NAC

    8. Reservatrol

    9. Alpha lipoic acid

    10. Vita C

    11. B vitamins

    12. chaga, cordecyps, maitake, shitake mushrooms

    13. essiac tea

    Also, I take femara, so definately supplement w/ calcium, but on a few occasions I have had to take break for a day or two from femara due to the SEs, and so I supplement then w/ grapeseed extract and querticin and/or chrysin, and DIM. to help inhibit estrogen. For another alternative to AI, you might want to research viscum albicum otherwise known as mistletoe. It's a stringent protocal that takes place over months even years, and for me, w/ the AI I take, it's just too much.

    I also drink Astragalus tea for immune enhancement.

    Thanks everyone for the info in this thread! Best to all..

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited September 2012

    heyjudette, I'm sorry to hear about your Mom's recurrence.  Another avenue she might pursue to be sure she's doing the very best alternative/complementary/integrative things for her specific situation would be to work with either a naturopatic doctor who has a specific interest and training in oncology, or an integrative oncologist.  Here are a couple of organizations that might interest you and her, and both websites have "find a doctor in your area" search features:

    http://www.oncanp.org/

    http://www.integrativeonc.org/ 

    Deanna

  • Rosetapper
    Rosetapper Member Posts: 7
    edited October 2012

    Poly-MVA also contains palladium, which is a metal that costs three times what gold costs.  That's why it's so expensive.

  • CathyK
    CathyK Member Posts: 2
    edited November 2012

    Rosetapper,

    I can't thank you enough for posting what I will call life-saving information (for me). I have been in contact with Dr. Singh and I'm also on the protocol along with Angioblock and the calcium butyrate product. I do visualization and meditation as well, but I'm curious about the seminar you went to, and if there's any information you can point us in the direction of to obtain it.

    I'm probably in the minority on this board as I'm someone who has done only alternative therapies, for a number of reasons. I firmly believe the best treatments are those that we each resonate strongly with.

    I was diagnosed 6 years ago with Paget's disease with DCIS, and was doing great until June 2012. Something I'm doing in my daily life caused tumor growth so I'm back to detoxifying and doing my original protocol along with supplementation.

    The biggest thing for me in healing was to forgive everyone in my past and present, including myself. I have let go of all toxic relationships and set boundaries.

    Thank you for sharing what is very valuable information to me!

    Blessings,

    CathyK

  • marymoir
    marymoir Member Posts: 245
    edited November 2012

    I was just diagnosed with mets to liver and bones after 4 years NED. I am SO glad to find this thread! I started working with a integrative MD a few months ago, but haven't had a chance to see him since the mets diagnosis, so I can't wait to share this info with him (although he may already know since he's pretty much on the cutting edge. Thanks so much Rosetapper!

  • jojo68
    jojo68 Member Posts: 881
    edited June 2018

    I know this post is old.....is anyone here still doing artemesinin?

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