Starting Chemo October 2012

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  • Jennie93
    Jennie93 Member Posts: 1,018
    edited October 2012

    4 days post-first-chemo now and I'm happy to report very little in the way of SEs.  Been sort of achey all over today, could be from the Neulasta shot.  Not unbearable, just uncomfortable.  Took the Compazine first few days for prevention, really no nausea to speak of.  My head is feeling itchy today - surely it's too soon for the hair to start falling out?  I'm not quite ready to face that...

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited October 2012

    noranelly, yesterday my yoga teacher told us of an old friend who had called because her anxiety was overwhelming her. My teacher told her to exhale. So yes, breathe but make the exhale long and this will help you take deeper strengthening breaths. We are with you. I am only on day 6 of my first cycle of chemo but am coping even though I would not say this is what I wanted. I do see you have 5 positive nodes (I had 6) and so I am thinking your medical team is basing chemo on those findings plus others.

    Again, know we are here!

    Marian 

  • alcb70
    alcb70 Member Posts: 166
    edited October 2012

    Thanks Tori! Go a little slow with the hair cut! My doc told me it would come out day 15, and I cut it day 9 (to avoid the irritation), but it's just now coming out at like day 21! I could have had hair a lot longer! :) It's been ok until now, but since it's cut to about a 1/2 inch it's prickly.  I hope you keep yours for a while!! :)

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    alcb- thanks so much for the info. I am waiting. I took 4 inches off it at the start if the month. It's at my neck now. My hairdresser is on standby. Sorry your doc told you that. Everyone is so different. Our treatment is the same. But your one treatment ahead of me. We will have to celebrate when our treatments end. It will be within a few weeks of each other. We can lite up this board with 'Happy'. :-)

  • halfcan
    halfcan Member Posts: 253
    edited October 2012

    Yesterday was scary. I ran a fever all day and had a sore throat. It didn't go over 100* but with chemo #2 on Wednesday coming up I was pretty worried. Today ... No fever and feeling better. Still have my hair at day 17 but it is very tender now so thinking not for much longer. My onc said it would be gone by #2 chemo. Hope everyone is feeling ok this weekend. Hugs to all.

  • Marlene18
    Marlene18 Member Posts: 91
    edited October 2012

    Halfcan- glad you are better today.



    That is a good reminder for all of us to be very careful not to forget that we are more vulnerable to normally conquerable bacteria. When I am out in public places these days, I keep reciting to myself "don't touch anything, don't touch your face" and I wash my hands at every opportunity. I'm going to pick up some extra hand sanitizer today too. Day 7 for me today and so far so good but the nadir is top of mind!

  • BethBV
    BethBV Member Posts: 49
    edited October 2012

    Day four and I'm hoping the worst is upon me.  I just feel ick . . . spending too much time in the bathroom and too much time on the couch.  I did get out for a couple of walks which helped.  The insides of my cheeks feel like they're peeling off and my gums hurt a bit.  Food tastes odd, kind of tasetless.  I assume all this is normal.  No fever and nothing overly horrid.  Just a blah day.

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited October 2012

    halfcan glad you are feeling better but am wondering what happened with your mouth on Friday?

    Marlene, glad you are hanging in there. I still have some diarrhea but called the nurse helpline last night and she encouraged me to ride it out without imodium and to stay hydrated. We spent a few wonderful hours on Bowen Island yesterday with friends and even though I was up and down feeling it was good to get away. Today I am totally taking it easy and not going anywhere. 

  • whaevah
    whaevah Member Posts: 354
    edited October 2012

    halfcan, just saw your last post and wanted to let you know that I ran a low grade fever on and off my 4 AC , and my blood counts always recovered THE DAY OF chemo. I tested the day prior and always retested the day of. Taxol #1 was delayed one week. I am now on Taxol #8 and counts have remained good.

    No neuopgen or Neulasta, both my Oncs (I requested a new one) felt I did not need it. It was not an insurance issue as  am covered through extended medical. Not sure if you are having either as I have not read the whole thread.

  • halfcan
    halfcan Member Posts: 253
    edited October 2012

    I still have sore gums making chewing difficult. Not sure if the fever and sore throat and gland is related. Neupogen starts next chemo.

  • DebbieNinja
    DebbieNinja Member Posts: 18
    edited October 2012

    Thank you for all of the helpful hints!  My second course of chemo has gone better so far.  I had it this past Thursday (3 days ago).  I met with my oncologist before hand and she changed some of my anti-nausea meds and had the nurses give me a bag of fluids while I was receiving my chemo.  The next day when I went for the Nuelasta shot they again gave me another bag of fluids.  I was also given a prescription of compazine for breakthroug nausea.  Much better experience this time.  I am also trying to drink as much as I can.

    Again..thank you for all of the helpful hints!

  • MrsCich
    MrsCich Member Posts: 409
    edited October 2012

    2 days past my 2nd TC infusion and this is the worst I've felt. I just feel blah. I've taken a total of 7 Colase in 2 days to get things flowing down under and even though its working, Im crampy from it all. The hot flashes are awful, fatigue is taking over but of course not tired enough to sleep. I just don't want to move.



    I hope you all are doing well.



    Halfcan, I too get sore gums around my molars. They bled a tiny bit about the beginning of my 5-6 day following chemo. I use Biotene toothpaste, mouthwash and gum and it eventually goes away.



  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited October 2012

    Still feeling awful. Day 4. Just threw up! Threw up! I thought this was an impossibility these days. So disappointed. When will it get better :(



    xoxo

  • Goldfinch
    Goldfinch Member Posts: 30
    edited October 2012

    Poke- You and I are on the same treatment regimen. Day 4 was actually my worst day.

    The way it worked for me was- from day 1 until day 4, I was not feeling well at all, but was managing to eat dinner. Day 4 everything just fell apart and I was sick sick sick! For the next four days, I ate barely nothing, felt like crap, and had to get IV fluids twice (at my Herceptin day and the day after) just because I was so dehydrated. About 2-3 days after my first Herceptin only dose (so a little over a week from the TCH day), I started to feel more normal. I was staying hydrated and started eating real food in small doses again.

    By my next Herceptin only dose, I was feeling great (except for having no WBC, which was a concern but obviously didn't actually feel one way or another). I have stayed feeling good, getting better and better each day...this whole upswing started around day 9 or 10.

    I hope you start feeling better even sooner than that! My big goals for myself when my second TCH session rolls around this Thursday- stay hydrated and start taking all my anti-nausea and anti-big D meds immediately. I am hopeful that this will make my second round more tolerable than the first. So, for you right now, I would tell you to drink, drink, drink! Also, take all the meds you need, and call your MO if you feel you need a med more often than it is currently prescribed, or to see if you need to go in for IV fluids.

    Hope you're feeling better soon...hugs :)

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    Mouth soreness......chew ice with your next treatment of taxotere. I imagine it also helps with any taxane. Chew 15 min prior to, during and 15 minutes after. I was told by veterans that this helps. Mouth is still a little sore, but not near as bad. Taste is still an issue. Meh!



    Constipation or Diarrhea?- you'll know which way you tend after first treatment. This is because chemo affects the bowls. Fast reproducing cells. Magnesium oxide 500-700mg Pre tx day, tx day, and 3rd day. Told this works. I will try my next treatment. If the opposite, try and deal with the big D and hydrate and replace electrolytes. Better than the big C.



    Goldfinch- have you checked out the triple + boards. They are great ladies. Many veterans. Same chemo, and where I have been helped with many questions. Also, many are up on the latest research for our type of cancer (mainly her2).



    Poke- I started out on the 12th. Felt fine that day and into 3rd morning, then blam! It will get better. I came out feeling more human by day 5. I took my nausea meds till day 5 too. Didn't want to risk it. If yours are not helping (Zofran), there is also phenergan, compazine(my MO said it is archaic though), and the best is emmend ( the last they will try you on because of cost). Call your MO and request a different med.



    Praying that you all start to feel better. The other veterans have a lot to share. Check around the boards. Also, I'm icing my nails, if anyone is interested, happy to share, just PM me. Vitamin B6 can also help with any neuropathy. Check with your MO. Hope this helps.

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    I should clarify- mag oxide for constipation. And was told it only works if you start it day before, day of and day after. Won't work if taking after already set in. Credit TonLee on another board.

  • Jennie93
    Jennie93 Member Posts: 1,018
    edited October 2012

    Day 5 and now I have the sore mouth thing.  Like others have said, it feels like when you eat or drink something too hot and burn your tongue, only all over.  Gums very painful when brushing.  Bummer.  Tummy hurts some after eating, but everything still tastes ok.  Headache from hell that no pain reliever I've tried yet does anything for.  Other than that - doing good!  Still no fatigue, able to work, that is a blessing.  Hang in there sisters, you are all in my prayers!

  • schoolmom
    schoolmom Member Posts: 458
    edited October 2012

    OMG.  Still waiting for my oncotypedx score on Thursday.  When I think I can deal with chemo I see how badly everyone is feeling and I dont know.  I am grade 3 with 1/3 micromet sentinel nodes so thinking chemo is in the plan.  I live alone and wonder how I am going to get through this.  My adult son lives 45 min. away and works.  My adult daughter is married and lives 10 min aways and works.  Can I deal with this at home by myself with my daughter checking in with me after work? 

  • Jennie93
    Jennie93 Member Posts: 1,018
    edited October 2012

    Schoolmom, obviously I have only just started this journey and who knows what the future will bring, but so far anyway I'd say there is no reason I couldn't be alone.  I have not needed help with anything yet, and if I was feeling icky and nauseous I would really just want to be left alone anyway, not have someone hovering around asking what they could do.  But maybe that's just me.  Do you have someone to drive you to your treatments?  I would have been able to drive myself, but had hubby take me since we had no idea how I would react.  If I'd had some kind of allergic reaction or something, they might have given me something that wouldn't be safe to drive home.

  • Leigh22
    Leigh22 Member Posts: 38
    edited October 2012

    Just dropped in to say hi to everyone...  I'm 11 days out from my first chemo.  Not as bad as I had expected it to be.... no nausea at all thank god but had some of the big D, but Immodium took care of it.  Had horrible metallic taste in my mouth and by day 4-5 it was very cottony.  I got one mouth sore but my fault for using a vinegarette on day 6 on my salad...vinegar burned the inside of my mouth... biotine rinse, toothpaste and gum has helped.  I also love the Ricola lozenges.  Day 4, 5 & 6 were my bad days as I was SO tired and napped all the time... I was just wiped out and no appetite... nothing tasted normal or good at all.  My Onc put me on a steroid pill for the first 3 days after chemo  and that really gave me an appetite and so much energy, but day 4 I took a nosedive.  I actually started feeling better and more myself 7 days after chemo... yay!  My appetite has returned the last several days which has caused me to eat everything in sight... never thought  you could gain weight on chemo! Wondering when I'm going to start losing my hair... I had long, thick hair and had 21 inches cut off the day before my 1st chemo... 

    Hope you all are doing well, my October sisters!  My next chemo is October 31st.... Halloween + chemo = scary!  LOL 

  • LouBar
    LouBar Member Posts: 84
    edited October 2012

    Hi Ridergirl;

    I'm also in Ontario and I'm on Day 9 of my first treatment.  Day 1-4 were tough but I found that the PC Blue Menu frozen yogurt smoothies helped a lot with both keeping my mouth moist and getting some nourishment those first couple of days when nothing else was working.  Just a thought for you, all the best.

    Thinking about everyone and wishing you all well.

  • momto5children
    momto5children Member Posts: 16
    edited October 2012

    Hi all, haven't been around the past few days, trying to recover, not working :(.  6 days post 1st chemo, felt great days 1 and 2, extreme bone pain on day 3 and 4, burning feet day 5 and pounding headache day 6.  No nausea :).  I have tried every pain reliever possible and resorted to my leftover Pecoset, still no help.  I was told Friday to take ibuprofen by my MO nurse, was told by everyone else to take Tylenol don't take any NSAIDS.  Thanks for letting me know 2 days into my pain.  My burning feet probably is neuropathy and put 2 pair of socks on and finally subsided.  Chugging gatorade today, finally my headache is minimal.  Going to the MO tomorrow for blood draws, boy is she going to get an earful of SE from me, lol.  I am suppose to go back to work on Tuesday, but pending some great news from my MO about future SE, I won't be returning to work until after chemo is complete.  Shaved my head Friday along with hubby, brother and a friend.  Not too bad, told I look like a little kid.  And my little 7 year old told me I look more beautiful now than when I had hair :)  Well, I hope everyone feels better and hand in there!!

  • Leigh22
    Leigh22 Member Posts: 38
    edited October 2012

    Hi Momto5 - My onc told me to take Ibuprofen 1 hour before neulasta shot day after chemo.  It really worked for me, but I'm someone who Motrin works for in general.  I had to take 4-200 mg. again 4 hours later because that's when I felt the bone pain in my right hip area.  I didn't have to take any motrin after that.  I would feel some little sporatic bone pains here or there but nothing too bad. 

    Sorry to hear you weren't feeling well....  I'm sure it's hard to decide to stop working, but good you'll have more time to focus on you. 

    That's so sweet what your 7 year old said... our children are the most precious things!

  • Caitgrace
    Caitgrace Member Posts: 48
    edited October 2012

    Day four and everything hurts. Feel scorched inside and out. Thought I was getting C so ate for that now have D. Arg. My mouth hurts and I'm sure I have thrush along with mild ulcers on my tongue...is this when the magic mouth wash comes in? Or does thrush get treated differently? Been doing baking soda/salt rinses along with biotene but still fuzzy /sore mouthed.



    Just keep thinking I can get through the rough days and I'll be ok. How many days do you all take your anti nausea meds for?



  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    Cait- if when you look in your mouth, it's white patches or coating, it's thrush. Call your MO. He needs to treat it. Don't wait. If not, then just magic mouthwash, biotine, make sure to use soft toothbrush, and keep mouth clean after eating. Chewing ice helped me a lot. 15 prior to taxotere, during taxotere infusion and 15 min after. I took my nausea meds through day 5 just to be on safe side.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    Well, my oncology nurse was dead on.  Day 14 & the hair started coming out this morning.  Every time I run my hands run through my hair, I come away with strands but so far no big clumps of hair.  I thought I was a "shedder" before, but this is definitely different.  Since I'm not going to be getting chemo for a couple weeks due to the infection, I don't think I'll shave it until there are actual bald spots.  I have extremely thick hair that could probably lose half of it and still look fairly normal, lol. I just don't want to be too hasty with the clippers.  At least it lasted through my birthday yesterday, and I did have a wonderful weekend even with all of the craziness going on. 

    For those with mouth stuff going on, there is a prescription mouth rinse that is given for thrush.  I used to get that when on lots of steroids for asthma, and it works.  Unfortunately, the magic mouthwash won't make it go okay.    

  • MrsCich
    MrsCich Member Posts: 409
    edited October 2012

    For thrush you need Diflucan which your MO will prescribe. The magic mouthwash, mine is called Mabex, is a mixture of a variety of things. It too is called in by your MO. It numbs and coats your mouth so you don't feel the sores. I had gotten a sore right at my molar line in the back of my mouth. When I would sleep it would rub my teeth and get worse. I ended up soaking a gauze in the Mouthwash and sleeping with it separating my cheek from teeth. WORKED WONDERS!!!!



    I still have a bad case of the blahs. I'm just in a dark place. Day 3 of 2nd infusion and I have an annoying headache, little bit of a sore throat, taste buds are gone. Ugh. I just wanna go to sleep. I have to remind myself that who I am today does not define my future. It's hard to think that this too shall pass.

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited October 2012

    Hi ladies. Day 5, four of which I only left bed to go to the bathroom or ER which was last night's adventure. Compazine, threw up. Zofran, threw up, IV saline and zofran and reglan and Pepcid: threw up. They finally gave me some IV Ativan and sent me on my way. I slept like a baby all night. We didn't get home until 3 am. My poor honey.



    What a helpless feeling. No other se's! No mouth problems, no pain. Just this awful cramping and nausea. UGH!! Go away!!!

  • sonson
    sonson Member Posts: 162
    edited October 2012

    Okay so I just got my port put in my arm last Wednesday and they will have to access it this Wednesday.  It's too soon to put any numbing cream on it because it hasn't healed enough.  Anyone got any good ideas to ease the pain so they can access it on Wednesday?  Or maybe it's not going to be as bad as I think it is?  Has anyone had their port accessed soon?  Any words of advice or encouragement would be wonderful because I'm afraid it's going to hurt since it's still very tender there today.  I can't imagine that two days from now it's going to be completely healed.  Maybe I'm just being a big baby! Laughing

  • BethBV
    BethBV Member Posts: 49
    edited October 2012

    They'll rub the port with alcohol before they access it.  It will be tender at first but then the rubbing will make it feel a little numb.  I've had my port accessed three times and didn't have the numbing cream for any of them.  It does hurt, no joke, but it's a quick pain.  The nurse has me inhale deeply and then slowly exhale, on the exhale she puts the needle in.  Once the needle is in the pain subsides and it probably won't hurt again until the needle comes out.  You'll do fine!  My port is still tender sometimes (over 6 weeks after they put it in) and I worry every time it needs to be accessed.  I'm not going to forget the numbing cream next time!

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