Starting Chemo October 2012

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  • MrsCich
    MrsCich Member Posts: 409
    edited October 2012

    Well Im sitting in my BGC getting my 2nd round of chemo.

    Half can, I had sore gums as well. I think they may have even bled a tiny bit. It was after that I got my one and only mouth sore. Keep using the Biotene, like 3-5 times a day. It eases up I promise.



    Interesting things going on today in my cancer center. First off, I Got the same nurse as I did last time and I'm happy about that. I really liked her. Lets add another issue to all of this...the tagaderm (big clear tape they put over my picc line) has burned my skin and Olga (nurse) has to remove it and figure something out. Ugh. I touched the red part and I thought I was on fire. It literally ate my skin off in one area.



    Then one lady in here kept staring at me..maybe because its just a bunch of older people in here and I'm young. She said she felt like she was going to throw up but she went unconunconscious. Holy hell. They called a dr to chemo stat. Now she's up but her bp was 59/17. Yowza. My Dr (Dr Wall) came running down to the chemo room when she learned it was one of her patienta. Quinn (the nurse manager) came over and was talking to me and I was telling her next time I need dr wall they just need to get on the loud speaker and say dr wall stat. Lol. Olga (the nurse) pulled my currain back and said I better behave or she's giving me more Ativan to put me to sleep or better yet, she'll get a stick! Lol. If I have to go through this, in glad it's here. These women are amazing.



  • BethBV
    BethBV Member Posts: 49
    edited October 2012

    nbnoes - You're right!  The nurse said I should have rung my jingle bell and she'd have run through more saline with the rest of the cytoxan.  Unfortunately the run was just about finished by the time I told her.  She did run some extra saline in there at the end but said it would be better to do it along with the cytoxan.  So, next time we'll do it that way

  • ahdjdbcjdjdbkf
    ahdjdbcjdjdbkf Member Posts: 645
    edited October 2012

    Wishing all the chemo starters well. I was on chemo from April-September. I'm feeling well now for the most part. Just dealing with minor side-effects. I have a nice short hair cut now even. 9 radiation treatments down and 24 to go. For the most part I feel like me, am back to work full-time and life is good. The fears have been devistatingly overwhelming. That hasn't stopped...but I roll on. I'm here if anyone needs support for A/C, Taxol, or Herceptin.

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    MrsCich- your center has some action! Wow! Mine is mostly older men. I'm the youngest. But it's VA, so I expect it.



    Celine- yes, even with the taxotere. I start ice chips 15 min Pre, during and 15 post. Helps. Sore, using biotine, but manageable.



    Thanks Maria! Someone who has walked down that path. I'm on TCH. But a taxane is a taxane. It's good to see and here from those who have gone before. I have many chemo coaches on another board who have prepared me and still hold my hand. I love that BCO is here.

  • sonson
    sonson Member Posts: 162
    edited October 2012

    I started chemo on 9/11 and have my third round on 10/24.  Hope you guys don't mind if I join this October group.  I've been looking at these discussion boards and thinking about joining and finally took the plunge and decided to join.  I tried to read as much as I could prior to having my first chemo treatment because I was scared to death about it.  If I can help any new comer not be so scared then that's what I'm here for.  You're always afraid of the unknown.  I'm having six rounds of taxotere and cytoxan.  So this coming Wednesday I should be half way done with the chemo treatment.  I tried the Claritin with the Neulesta shot, but I still had some bone pain.  It wasn't too bad.  If my liver enzymes weren't so high I think a couple of Aleve would have taken care of the pain, but I'm not allowed to have any Aleve so I just deal with it.  It's more of an annoying kind of pain rather than painful.  Days 3 thru 5 are the roughest days with the fatigue and then I slowly start feeling like myself again.  I have found that eating ice while getting the chemo drugs seems to help with the mouth sores, but nothing seems to help with the burnt feeling that my tongue has.  Or the lack of taste I have.  But everyone reacts differently to the drugs so it may not be the same for everyone.  I just got my port put in because after two treatments my veins (which were small to begin with) have been destroyed.  I'm hoping that eventually they will rebound since it's only been two treatments.  My advice to anyone who has small veins even if you are only getting four treatments is to get a port to save the only one good arm and veins you have left.  They don't tell you that the chemo will kill those veins.  And maybe not all chemo drugs do that, but mine certainly did.  So think twice about getting a port.  It's not such a bad procedure.

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    Sonson- welcome. Sorry you have to be here. But yay! Almost halfway through! these ladies seem great. And seems like a nice place to share. I'm on taxotere, carboplatin, hercepton x6 cycles then hercepton continuing hercepton for full year. Yes, port was worth it. I have great veins and want to keep it that way. I just had my first chemo on Oct 12th. It's one week later and finally doing better. No more bone pain, migraine, aches, or sore mouth. Not to be too graphic, just dealing with big D. Took the Nuelastra shot 24 hrs after chemo and took Zyrtec. Still bone pain. May have to switch it. I do ice my nails and chew ice with the taxotere. I think it helped with not having any mouth sores.

  • Marlene18
    Marlene18 Member Posts: 91
    edited October 2012

    Today is day 5 after AC round 1 for me. It's the first day I feel really draggy, maybe because I'm done the anti-nausea steroid at around the same time my white blood cells are starting to deplete? My mouth is fuzzy and all I can think about is napping. I'm being extra careful about touching anything in public places and washing my hands alot. No infections!

    I do hope my veins hold out for the AC, since they didn't want to do port surgery during my pregnancy. I had no issues with the first round (didn't feel a thing) so maybe that's a good sign. I brought my ice last time but didn't remember to suck on it until about halfway through. I'll remember next time, with all the excellent reminders on here! :)

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited October 2012

    halfcan call your nurse helpline if it continues. Does your answer live Mon-Fri? Mine does and when I called on Wed. she was so helpful and even if I had called that first night when I had trouble breathing a bit, they would have had some advice.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2012

    Unfortunately, I had to do a visit to the plastic surgeon today.  Turns out I have a "wonderful" infection going on that turned my left side pink and started it swelling today.  Thankfully my antibiotic should work on it, but it means a minimum delay of 2 weeks in the chemo.  I feel like we had just started to fight those stupid cells in my liver, and now we're having to back off again.  So ticked off!

  • BethBV
    BethBV Member Posts: 49
    edited October 2012

    Oh, no!  I didn't even realize that you clould get an infection so late in the game.  I guess I'd better keep an eye on my incisions!  Sorry to hear the cancer has gone to your liver and now the delay!  Scary added on top of frustrating!

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited October 2012

    Hi October chemo group!  I'm stopping by to tell you all, you can get through this! Just take each day as it is, ride the wave on the good days and endure the bad ones the best you can, and vent if you have to!  And don't hesitate to contact your doctor if something absolutely isn't right or if you are just miserable.  Also, the whole white cell thing is no joke, and you can't necessarily tell you are neutropenic by how you feel.  I never had to have Neulasta or Neupogen, but I did make the mistake twice of not wearing gloves to do some work while I was at nadir, and got an infection both times in my finger - from nothing more than a splinter!  Both times it was after the "steroid crash" was over and I felt fine; couldn't tell except when I went to the doctor for the splinters and they did blood work.  Hugs to you!

  • MrsCich
    MrsCich Member Posts: 409
    edited October 2012

    Waking up from day one after second TC infusion. Got a bit of a headache but nothing coffee can't cure. Eventually I will force myself out of bed to take my steroid and anti nausea pill (as a preventative measure), Colase for constipation (thank you chemo and Zofran) drink some green drink to see if it will boost my WBC for labs Friday....then do nothing hopefully until my husband comes home at 130pm. We are supposed to go to a semi-local corn maze that has other fun stuff to do, so I'm gonna try and build up my energy (is that even possible?).



    I took a 1mg Xanax and a Melatonin to help me sleep and I was still up at 3 with hot flashes and night sweats. Coldest it's been here in south Mississippi (47 out now) and I sleep half naked with no blanket at timea...but is supposed to get to 80 degrees today.



    I want to go to a LGFB class but the next one isn't until Nov 19!!!! My last treatment is scheduled for Nov 30th as of now. I want to learn how to wear makeup. I've never really worn any and have very sensitive skin. I was hoping to learn a lot. Blah

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    Nbnotes- I pray your feeling better soon. And that chemo can get started soon for you.

    Indigo- thank you for your words of encouragement, and advice. I'm 8 days post chemo. Being mindful. I am on Nuealastra shots (wish I wasn't, but MO likes em. I think to many SE).

    MrsCich- hope you feel better soon and get to go to corn maze! You should do the LGFB class! I've never been much on make up either, but I hear they do more than just that. Im hoping to go on Nov 6th. That will be 4 days after my 2nd chemo, so I hope I am feeling better. Have you thought about Ativan at night? It helps with nausea and sleep.

  • Caitgrace
    Caitgrace Member Posts: 48
    edited October 2012

    Day two - after TC - up to take my steroids and now am wondering if I should also be already taking my anti nausea drugs? Haven't felt sick yet but sounds like its anyone's guess when you might... Sigh wish there was a more exact science to this all.



    I feel just blah. Doing mouth rinses. Eating small meals. Drinking lots of water. Feeling weird sitting around doing nothing.



    My port hurts but not unbearably.



    So do most of you start your anti nausea meds now ? (day two) wait longer? Or start earlier?

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    Cait- I started mine the next morning after chemo. Everyone is different. But the one bit of advice I got from a lot of people was stay on top of taking nausea meds and drinking a lot of water to flush your kidneys. I pray you continue to do well!

  • CelineFlower
    CelineFlower Member Posts: 875
    edited October 2012

    i am going to LGFB on monday... very excited... hope the se's arent to bad...ill be on day 5

    i found day 3 and 5 to be the worst last round...

  • MrsCich
    MrsCich Member Posts: 409
    edited October 2012

    Caitgrace, I take mine the evening of infusion and 2 days after. I have yet to nauseated but this second infusion is a little different for me. I still have my headache a case of the overall blahs. I was really hoping it would match my first infusion but so far its a little different.

  • CelineFlower
    CelineFlower Member Posts: 875
    edited October 2012

    they give me Emend and Dex , before the chemo ...and i have some to take on day 2-3-4.. i am amazed at how well they work... saw my mom go thru this 10 years ago..and she was way sicker than i am...

    oh i also use pot to help take the edge off... works great for me.

  • BethBV
    BethBV Member Posts: 49
    edited October 2012

    Day 3 for me and not too bad, yay!  Steroids got me through yesterday and I took the Lorazepam night 1 and again last night to help me sleep.  Worked great!  I did not like the awake-all-night from the steroids night before chemo.  The OM ordered me something for sleep on the nights when I don't need the anti-nausea properties of the Lorazepam.

    I've been pretty unstable on my feet, a little dizziness yesterday and today.  Trying to keep up on the drinking but feeling a little loopier by the minute.  Sounds like tomorrow and Monday (Day 4-5) could be worse but today I'm going to try to get out for a walk.  I need to get to the grocery but don't feel safe behind the wheel of the car!  My husband and daughter have gone their various ways today so I'll call a neighbor to walk with me.

    Hope you all are doing well!

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited October 2012

    Hi ladies. I'm on day three post first TCH and I'm still in bed. Yesterday I couldn't get out of bed til 5:30. I feel awful, just borderline nauseated and crampy. Comes and goes. No energy. Dizzy. Took xanax last night and slept like a baby, thank goodness. Trying to drink is like an overwhelming task. I managed a biscuit with peanut butter for breakfast.



    Thinking of you all. xoxo

  • CelineFlower
    CelineFlower Member Posts: 875
    edited October 2012

    poke, did u try adding lemon slices to water? that has helped me alot

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited October 2012

    P.S. It sure would be nice to rest on my stomach!!! Or even comfortably on my sides! Being on my back doesn't help the nausea. (Yes, I have been taking zofran around the clock.) Stupid tissue expanders :(

  • MrsCich
    MrsCich Member Posts: 409
    edited October 2012

    Poke, I had my BMX w/TE placement on 8/31 and I find it horrible that you can't get comfy with the TE's. I can lay in any position thankfully but that was my worst time having to only lie on my back. Have you had many fills? I have 450cc in each. I hope you can find comfort love.

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    Poke- feel better soon. I know you know, but drink, drink drink water fluids. It will get better, I promise. I'm day 8 and out and about. And just take a pile of pillows, pile them under your head and knees and try sleeping like that. I mean every pillow you own. Lol!

  • Noranelly
    Noranelly Member Posts: 30
    edited October 2012

    Hi I'm noranelly I am due to have my first chemo 31st oct, Halloween! I am due to have an echocardiogram this week. I feel terrified and sick thinking about having chemo and am not sure whether I will be able to go through with it. It feels so uncertain and alien. Why would I make a decision to make myself so ill. I feel fine and need to be well to look after my 3 girls. I know possibly cancer cells are in my system, but maybe they are not? I keep thinking what am I doing? I feel so well, happy and normal when I forget then I remember and everything seems so messed up. I am sooooooooo confused, and want to cry all the time. To feel happy makes remembering even harder, does any of this make sense??.? Noranelly

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    Nora- glad you found this group. I spoke to you on the other board. Breathe! You can do this. I still do cry a lot! It's okay. Every emotion makes sense. There have been many that have walked our path and others that will walk our path. Here, everyone is walking that path now. Some of the others should chime in soon. And if not, feel free either way to PM me anytime. You can do this. Also, reach out to the American Cancer Society. They are great and can put you in touch with people locally that can help. Also, they can provide resources for you. Take care, and remember to breathe.

  • 301724
    301724 Member Posts: 478
    edited October 2012

    Nora - I echo MsTori's reply. This is a great place for support. You want to feel well and happy for a lifetime. That's the reason you've chosen to go the route you have. We are all in the midst of it and here for each other.

  • alcb70
    alcb70 Member Posts: 166
    edited October 2012

    Hi Ladies! Having a day on the couch.  Had chemo on Thurs. and Neulasta yesterday. Just a little nausea Thurs evening, and of course feeling like the flu today (achey and headache). Taking claritin and drinking. No mouth sores this time (thank goodness!).  I got quite a bit done yesterday, but had to leave it to my husband today. He's been in the garage all day.  I feel bad not helping. :( I need to do online training for my job, but my concentration is awful! I know chemo brain sets in...but this is just an inability to concentrate for even a few minutes. So sad. :)  Beautiful weather here and the leaves are gorgeous! I can't wait to get past this crappy stuff and get back to exploring and hiking.

    I hope everyone is doing well today!  My hair is still coming out in patches...my head hurts though.  Since I have the stubble, it feels like pins pricking me in the scalp if I lay the wrong way or my hat shifts. I wore my wig out today and it was miserable. I just want it to come out and get it over with. I would like to just shave it, but afraid it may hurt even more or that I may cause some nicks. 

    Well...have a wonderful evening everyone!!! :) 

  • MsTori
    MsTori Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2012

    Alcb- hang in there. Your already down 2 chemo treatments. Yay! I'm waiting for the hair to go. I pray it doesn't. I texted my stylist/friend just now and gave her a window. She is a doll I guess I will just have her buzz it down to an inch or two. I have heard not to go down to the scalp because of irritation. Try a flannel pillow case. I've read that it helps the irritation at night. I just ordered a bunch of turbans and scarfs. Pray you feel better.

  • BethBV
    BethBV Member Posts: 49
    edited October 2012

    Poke - I'm sorry you're feeling so, so puny!  I have never been a back sleeper and, yes, those TE's are terrible in bed.  I have slept the entire night in bed one night since the BMX on September 6th.  Over six weeks I've been on the couch.  When I sleep in bed I can't keep my head up enough and I feel like I'm drowning myself, wake myself up snoring or choking.  Ick!  I'm still sleeping in my comfortable nest on the couch in a semi-reclined position.  Much, much better.  I've got pillows behind my back (lots of them), under my knees and even on my chest or under my arms if it's not too hot.  Hang in there!  Hope you feel better soon!

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