Thickened skin - worried!

Mebelissa
Mebelissa Member Posts: 13

Hello!  Thanks in advance for reading!  Quick background - 1 1/2  year ago found a lump left upper breast, after 1 year of testing & ultrasounds, ended up with an excision biopsy.  Benign results.  1 month after excision biopsy started having swelling and skin thickening of opposite side of same breast, far away from incision.  Breast surgeon said it was post op swelling and inflammation, not to worry.  Fast foward six months, swelling still there, skin still thick, and breast is larger than the right.  Had a follow up mamogram and ultrasound and showed thickened skin on the images, but no other mass or abnormalities. Breast surgeon had no clue why it is still going on, but still insisted it was post op "stuff". I decided to get a 2nd opinion. The 2nd breast surgeon said it had nothing to do with my surgery as it was completely opposite side.  Gave me antibiotics to see if that helped, said maybe an infection? Also scheduled an MRI to see what is going on. I have extremely dense breasts.  So my question, is there any other causes of skin thickening other than breast cancer?  I have no lumps at all that are abormal, just an area of very thick skin and swelling in my breast. From all the research and reading I've done, if it were breast cancer, ILC seems to be the most likely.  I am really concerned.  Any thoughts?  Antibiotics after 5 days have shown no change. My MRI is scheduled for tomorrow.

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  • vlnrph
    vlnrph Member Posts: 1,632
    edited October 2012

    Hoping you have an answer by now - lobular can present as a "thickening" since it spreads out in a linear fashion, not like a papable lump. The breast density issue makes an MRI a good option. Are you premenopause?

  • Mebelissa
    Mebelissa Member Posts: 13
    edited October 2012

    Thanks for your reply!  The MRI showed only skin thickening, but no other abnormalities.  The breast surgeon said there was nothing of concern on the MRI, other than the skin thickening. Mammogram and ultrasound also showed skin thickening, but no lumps or masses.  Although nothing was seen, she still has no clue why the skin is thick in that area.  It is so thick and swollen that my bra leaves very deep red lines in that area by the end of the day.  So her plan is for me to come back in 8 weeks and if symptoms persist she will do a biopsy of that area.  I am assuming maybe a punch biopsy?  The last two days I've now developed a lump in my left underarm (same side) It is painful, but I am not sure what it is.  I am grateful they did not see anything on the MRI, but frustrated that no one can tell me what is going on.  Two breast surgeons and neither have a clue. :(

  • toomuch
    toomuch Member Posts: 901
    edited October 2012

    Mebelissa - Is it possible that you have lymphedema and now have cellulitis? Are you comfortable waiting 2 months? The painful lump under your arm could be an inflamed lymph node secondary to infection. Maybe a visit to your internist is warrented. I hope that you get answers soon.

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited October 2012

    Mebelissa, another cause of skin thickening is lymphedema. Left untreated it lays down a layer of fibrotic tissue beneath the skin that can show up on an MRI.

    When lymphedema is in the breast or chest and not the arm, it's called truncal lymphedema. Sadly, few doctors know how to recognize truncal lymphedema (and some have never heard of it), so it can go undiagnosed for a long time. You might ask any doctor on your team for a referral to a well-trained lymphedema therapist for an evaluation. Here's how to find one near you:
    http://www.stepup-speakout.org/Finding_a_Qualified_Lymphedema_Therapist.htm

    And here's information about truncal lymphedma:
    http://www.stepup-speakout.org/breast_chest_trunckal_lymphedema.htm

    Hoping you get real answers soon!
    Binney

  • Mebelissa
    Mebelissa Member Posts: 13
    edited October 2012

    Thank you so much for your feedback!  I had always thought of lymphedema as only affecting the arm along with the breast.  One of the photos look exactly like the lines that my bra makes at the end of the day.  I will definitely ask my doctor about this possiblity. It still has not improved at all and has been present for 6 months.  I just wonder - can lymphedema appear on the opposite side of the breast as the surgery?  My excision biopsy was on the upper left near my armpit (no lymph nodes removed) and the thickened skin and sweling is on the inside left of the same breast. 

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited October 2012

    Mebelissa, yes, certainly--it can show up anywhere in that quadrant of your body, even in your back. Any surgery to the breast creates a lymphedema risk, even without cancer, and the area that's affected can vary considerably--it will depend on which drainage paths were cut or blocked, and that's not predictable. We have several gals here on the Lymphedema board with truncal lymphedema and no arm lymphedema, and the areas of swelling have nothing to do with where the surgical scars are. Truncal lymphedema is not uncommon, but doctors do seem to have a hard time diagnosing it.

    Lymphedema increases your risk of infection considerably, so you'll want to get an evaluation as soon as possible to see if it's lymphedema you're dealing with. Also, it's progressive, so without treatment hardening of the tissues will get very slowly worse and can limit your strength and range of movement in that quarter of your body. At present, a good lymphedema therapist should be able to reduce both the fibrosis and the swelling and get the lymph flowing, which will also reduce your infection risk. All good!

    In the meantime, you might want to switch to wearing a sports shirt (like Underarmour) rather than a bra, in a size smaller than you'd normally wear, and turned inside out so the seams don't irritate your skin--this can help control swelling and it's less constricting of the delicate lymph vessels just beneath the skin. Stay really well hydrated (it dilutes the lymph fluid and helps it flow better), and do some deep abdominal breathing at intervals throughout the day (it stimulates the largest lymph vessel in your body). Stay away from extreme temperatures, either hot or cold (a warm shower or bath, not a hot one; no ice packs on the area).

    Sure am wishing for some quick answers for you--you've been hanging long enough! Gentle hugs,
    Binney

  • Jnewt9093
    Jnewt9093 Member Posts: 1
    edited June 2017

    I went to obgyn two weeks ago. There was a pinkish looking patch on my right breast He sent me for a mammogram. The mammogram came back showing thickness in my right nipple to the 6:00 area. He then sends me to a dermatologist. The dermatologist took two biopsies.. I'm worried to death that it may be IBC. Is their a chance it could be?

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