High risk for years and face decisions
Hi, Everyone,
I'm new to posting here - was diagnosed with LCIS when I was 37. Have family history (mother died, sister DCIS, paternal grandmother), two biopsies (AHD found in last one 4yrs ago), clear mammos since. I've been followed closely since 1994 and did not take Tamoxifen, even though it was recommended many, many times, mainly because of a strong family history of heart disease and blood clotting. Tested negative for BCRA I, II. I've been very comfortable with my decisions up to now.
I'm now 55 and through menopause. My BS moved and I am now seeing someone new 1.5 hrs away. Risk is now considered 50-60% and it is felt I really should do something more proactive. Tamoxifen was prescribed, along with MRI's (I've had them in the past). I'll have to visit MO every three months for blood work, see the BS every year, have MRI at 6-month interval, and move my gyno appointment to same time so that I have another breast exam at that interval. (I feel like I'm being treated as if I have cancer already!) I'm still very conflicted about taking Tamoxifen and making myself miserable with side effects and possible other cancers. Why shouldn't I consider BPMX and be almost done with it? Has anyone had a good experience with Tamoxifen? Am I making too much of it? My old BS always said "just take it and if you don't like it, quit!" I'm really confused and need to hear solid experience.
Thanks so much!
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i just wanted to drop you a note, but have no answers for you. i did everything they told me to. it will be 12 years this coming march. no way to ever know if you are doing the "perfect " thing. i went with my gut and what i knew i could handle emotionally. i pray you come to a peaceful decision on what to do. hugs and prayers your way
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I have classic LCIS, ALH, and ductal hyperplasia. I took tamoxifen for 5 years. I had some 'warm flashes' the first few months (but I was perimenopausal so I don't know if those would have happened anyways). During the 5 years on tamoxifen, I had endometrial polyps removed about every 18 months. All were benign. (I also had pre-tamoxifen endometrial polyps so its also difficult to tell if the endometrial polyps were from the tamoxifen.) I did not have routine transvaginal ultrasounds, but only had transvaginal ultrasounds when I had irregular bleeding. I kind of 'landed' into tamoxifen because the only breast surgeon in my insurance said she did not want to do any surgery on me, I didn't want to pay the huge out-of-network fees, and I wanted to do something.
If I had the choice to make again, given the same circumstances, I'd still choose tamoxifen. But everyone is different.
As far as breast issues, I had 2 breast biopsies (2 different spots in the same breast biopsied a week apart in 2007) 6 months after starting tamoxifen. Both were nothing worse than what I had. I've been followed by yearly mammograms and twice-a-year clinical exams, and I haven't had any breast issues since my 2 biopsies in 2007.
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Having radiation treatment for lymphoma made me high risk and an oncologist gave me options to prevent BC about 8 years ago. I chose not to take tamoxifen as it would increase my risk of endometrial cancer. I didn't realise how small that risk was compared to my risk of BC though and wish I had questioned more. I also chose not to have a BMX as I felt it was too drastic to do 'just in case'. Again, I wish I had looked into that option more as I didn't even think of reconstruction possibilities. Having just been diagnosed with BC and gone through surgery I wish I had done so before and avoided BC altogether. Now I will be taking tamoxifen anyway and might have to do chemo and potentially do more damage to my body and disrupt my life again. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. What I would say to you is fully investigate your options and do as much as you can emotionally and physically deal with to prevent getting cancer in the first place.
Best of luck with whatever you decide. -
I am relatively new to all of this myself. Dx with ALH/ADH/LCIS back in August/Sept of this year...agonized over the tamoxifen decision for about one month...finally decided that my BS advice was sound in that if I tried it - I could make the choice to stop if SEs were unbearable....someone on one of these boards wrote a sage piece of advice (at least I thought it was)...she said that if down the road she ended up having Invasive BC and she had done nothing to prevent it...she just didn't think she could live with that...but that if she had done everything she could to try and prevent it...that she thought it would be easier to live with knowing she had done all she could. I have now been on the Tamoxifen for almost three weeks...and so far have done well. I have felt a bit more tired, don't really have much of an appetite (but no nausea) and the only other SE that I am still trying to figure out if it is connected is some lower abdominal achiness. I was absolutely terrified to take that first pill - but I finally decided that a risk reduction of 46% was worth a chance. If, down the road the f/u visits find more need for biospy...then I will consider PBMx at that time. I think it all boils down to listening to the advice of experts and then looking inside yourself to decide what you can personally live with. This is not an easy decision to make, but the other ladies have given great advice when they tell you to keep on asking until you feel some level of comfort. I will pray you peace and wisdom as you go through the process.
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I was diagnosed with LCIS 9 years ago and my risk is further elevated by family history of bc (mom had ILC). I took tamoxifen for 5 years and now have been taking evista for over 3 years, I tolerate both meds well with minimal SEs.
Eagle---try the tamox, you can always stop if you don't tolerate it well. As long as you don't have a personal history of blood clots or a blood clotting disorder, you aren't at a higher risk of blood clots due to your family's history. Since you are post menopausal, you could go with evista if you want. It's not quite as effective (38% versus 45%), but it also has less SEs overall.
But the fact that you haven't had any invasive bc in 18 years (with LCIS and family history) is awesome to me and wonderful news!
Anne
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Thanks, C'ville. Your post was very encouraging!
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I was diagnosed with idc back in July. I had a lumpectomy and am now going through chemo (4 rounds of dose-dense AC followed by 12 taxol and 1 year of herceptin). They have also recommended 35 radiation treatments once the chemo is done.
But now my mo is sort of nudging me to get genetic testing, but I'm not sure I want this information. I mean, I have already had cancer. I also have a strong family history of cancer. I have no sisters or daughters or close female relatives who could benefit from this info, so why should I carry that burden for the rest of my life knowing potentially that my body is coded against me.
Furthermore, if it turns out that I have the gene, will I feel pressured to have a preventive mastectomy? Is that what I really want? I'm very ambivalent and could use some guidance.
Kimber
DX 08/2012; lumpectomy with sentinel node biopsy; stage I/grade 3; erpr- hr2+
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Kimber, ultimately you have to do what you feel comfortable doing. But you should know that there is more to BRCA testing than female breast cancer.
If you test positive, you may also be at high risk for ovarian cancer, which is more difficult than BC to detect and therefore is often found when it is later stage, impacting survival rates. When I had my BRCA test, I knew that if I tested positive, I would have an oophorectomy; I reserved judgement on whether or not I would have a prophylactic mastectomy. It turns out that I tested negative so I didn't have to make that decision.
If you test positive, male members of your family may be affected to. The genes that increase BC risk don't just affect females, they affect men too. Men can get breast cancer, or they may get prostate cancer, which is also related to this gene. There are other cancers for which there also might be an increased risk, affecting both the men and the women who carry have this gene.
Not all BRCA mutations are the same. Some confer a high breast cancer risk, others a lower risk. So if you find out that you are positive, you will get more information about what your BC risk is, and what your other risks are. That will allow you to make an educated decision about what preventative treatments or level of screening you want to have. And it will allow other family members - the males - to decide if they want to be tested too.
And if you test negative, you might find that a weight has been lifted off your shoulders.
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