Get ready... "Pink season" is already starting!
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According to the website, the local Komen affiliate here doesn't give anything to PP, they aren't even in the list of "past recipients." I can't say I'm surprised, though, as my state has spent the last two years trying to shut PP here down.
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kayb I agree that getting involved has given me a better understanding of all this.
I was pretty pissed at Komen and I still won't buy their pink shit but I agree the do some good work… and without that research money some of the things happening now might not of been funded. I am happier at the ACS also because it isn't just breast cancer, but all cancer. I know last year I didn't support my friend who has been doing Komen for decades. I'm done about face. She knows how I feel. She on the other hand was so excited to see me as a team lead and raising money for breast cancer, and donated…
She made me realize that we are fighting for the same thing, to save others from this nasty journey and mostly A CURE (but I'll take a vaccine too).
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I work full time and volunteer with an animal rescue. I don't have the time or energy for anything else.
I really disagree with the whole "cure" message. If I donate anything, it will be to someone researching PREVENTION. -
Cottontail everything helps. Money going to research prevention is good too. Everyone has choices.
When I see a video like the one below I know I would like to see a cure for those who have mets… linky to YouTube video | Breast Cancer Awareness Project | New Zealand
I am in tears and have to take a break less than 1/3 of the way everytime I see this video.
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Lago - what I don't like about this video is the implication that if you get regular check ups and catch it early you will be ok! Ask any stage 0/1 person who became stage IV if catching it "early" helped.
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gilly of course there is no guarantee. The real message of this video is to be sure that women are at least getting their check ups. Ads are not effective if they send out too many messages. It confuses people.
But look at me. My tumor was 6-6.5cm. I had a breast exam 5 weeks before and my gyno didn't even notice the firm area. No one ever felt a lump. Mammos didn't show anything prior to that. But would would have happened if I waited another year! So sure some still slip through but a lot more women will be saved if they go and get their exams.
I met a woman in her 40's last week… it had been 6 years since her last mammo! Some women don't go because they are scared to find out. Catching it early is key in so many cases.
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I have to admit, a few years ago, I was all rah-rah, gimme a pink ribbon and I'll walk and gosh I'm glad to be a survivor! But now? Not so much. Yes, I'm thankful to have found my lumps early and had treatment that seems to have been successful, but only time will tell, right? Having had two primary BC dx in 7 years honestly scars the $hit out of me. And we threw the entire conventional arsenal at it both times. The bastardizing of the pink ribbon is sad. It's become so commonly seen and the messages are confusing. Yes it's out there getting $ that other causes don't, but let's face it, other diseases aren't trivialized like BC. Save the ta-tas, i heart boobies, save second base... But what about colon cancer, testicular, prostate being trivialized? Would they allow messages like give to colon cancer and make $hit happen, save the scrotums- sacks- berries-veg, etc. or test your testes? No, probably not, but hey we're just dealing with funbags in the pretty pinkness of BC.
Each one of us has had to deal with some terrible things that a little pink ribbon seems to mock, but people are learning by each one of us encouraging them to take control of their health and be familiar with their body. Take care ladies, the month is almost half done. -
Lago - the speaker in the video says "I didn't catch it in time." There is never a case where one can say "I caught it in time." We can only HOPE this is true. I know she is making a point but I see problems with statements like this. It makes it sound like it's her fault - and of course it isn't, and I think we will have to agree to disagree on the whole notion of catching it early. Mammograms have been made to sound like a great advancement. There are a mediocre tool at best.
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Gillyone, even worse, I've spoken to people who have come to believe that getting regular mammograms means they won't get bc! One woman suggested that I got bc because I wasn't getting regular mammos. (Well, of course I wasn't, I'm not even 40!)
The ads and messages are misleading at best. If they aren't going to have a lot of information for fear of confusing people, they should at least have ACCURATE information. -
Good posts cottontail and kayb
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Just got back from vacay and have to say I am pinked out. The plane! "Do you want pink headphones or black? We have pink lemonade and the profits go to....,we have collected x number of dollars for research on this flight. We also have pink martinis with pink lemonade mix and rum. We are participating in breast cancer awareness month". ok already! Just give me my free peanuts and stuff a sock in it already.
In the stores here in my FL area,you can add dollars to your purchase total to go to various bc research orgs but i feel the best served item for us was the article in Prevention mag this month which explained how much research is doing and why it is coming along so slowly. That was a good article and helped me understand a lot. Some really good articles out there on the subject. We get a lot of press. Its right behind heart disease and lung cancer. I met a lady on vacay whose daughter passed from colon cancer at a young age. happy Autumn!
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In Grand Rapids, Michigan they have "Bras Across the Grand" (a river) sponsored by the American Cancer Society. On their Facebook Page they say:
Breast exams, mammograms and other screenings increase the chances of detecting breast cancer early, when they are most likely to be curable.
Did someone forget to tell me that BC is curable????
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Its not as bad as last year and I hope by next year it will be history....
Pink Suks...Stop pinkwashing.
find a damn cure/vacine.
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Grannydukes I think you are right. Seemed like more Pink last year. Of course it was right after I finally started feeling well enough to get out much. But this year I'm on the lookout for it and it still is lots but doesn't seem as much.
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I just found this yesterday on fb.One of my friends posted it.I had to copy it and bring it here.
What if the cure for cancer is trapped inside someone who cannot afford an education-UNKNOWN.
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http://post.mainelymediallc.com/news/2012-10-19/Letters/Neighbors.html
I am in the local paper this week. I am trying to use the whole pink thing to help local women and men with breast cancer. I think we are all aware of BC, but it is a financial burden for so many of us. I truely don't believe the drug companies will ever let us have a cure or vaccine so helping anyway I can helps me give back. I was surprized they printed the name of the store I had gone to that had a whole display of pink crap with NONE of the profits going to the cause.
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Diana what a wonderful story!!!! That "PINKNESS" makes it hard to give back because we fear that someones POCKETS are getting lined. But because of YOU & others like you it gives me a different perspective. I have wanted to embrace my local support group to help out. We help the local community that provide some of the same services to help those in need. Again Thank You for your views & others like you on this topic! I guess we need to work to change the Path in our own way to see that it's doing what is needed!
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Dianarose, that was really a good article. I am glad they did mention the store by name. Bet they send out a notice that the clerk is wrong and they do contribute! And that right now they are scrambling to find some where to donate so that will be true. LOL
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Boy oh boy are we on the $$$$$...thank you all for doin such a great job.
Today I got my hair cut.The girl comes to my house...she also works in a salon that is very pricy.We started talkin about the pinkshit and she told me they were doin a big thing over there.It seems a ;Lady come up to them and read them the riot act...everyone was speachless...now I told this to her and she will make sure this pink stops right now....It was for komen.grrrrrrrrrrrrr
Then tonite my GD calls me laughing soo hard I asked her whats so funny she said she just got a call from komen for a donation...she couldnt even talk she was laughing at them so hard she hung up....
So It looks like slow and steady all across the world we are makin a statement...one person, 1sista at a time...
Dont have much time left....keep knockin them dead....go sistas...go sistas.
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I Didn’t Know Then What I Know Now «
This is a well-written essay by Lisa Valentine, diagnosed with bc in 2008. She speaks of her transition from being an avid Komen supporter to a new kind of breast cancer advocate. If any of you read it, I'd like to hear your opinion of what you read.
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Just read it - excellent article.
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I too just read it....A very well written honest article.
We gotta keep this goin.....even after focktober!!!!!!
The time has come....We are getting closer and closer.
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Just had a chance to read both of the articles linked above, and I thought they were both excellent. Diana, I'm sure your story really helped to humanize the bc awareness message in your community, while also making people aware of the really important needs that your local organization and others fill. Congrats to you for doing that!
And TheDivineMrsM, I thought Lisa's piece articulated the anger so many of us have felt when we realized the truth about Komen -- that millions of dollars donated to them to find a cure, has, in fact, just been going to a bigger and bigger awareness campaign. I applaud Lisa for speaking out (which can sometimes be a sticky situation if you have friends who work various fundraisers to support Komen), and I think she brought up a lot of excellent points. What did you think of her article? Deanna
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dlb, I thought Lisa's article made very good points.
Her last comments were about turning down a request to donate to Komen from a bagger at a grocery store. She writes she felt: "Sadness for the team members working so hard for an organization that has lost sight of the ultimate goal to end breast cancer, and that has gotten too powerful at the same time. Sadness that they don’t know what you and I know."
I just experienced something similar! A child psychologist who comes to our school occasionally started a conversation with me today which touched on cancer donations and the strides being made in terms of a cure. She really believes we've made progress. It made me very sad to know how uninformed she is. I do think many people don't want to face much reality in this matter. It scares them. And they want to believe that they can do something very simple such as buy a pink do-dad and it'll help. They don't want to get TOO involved. Don't want to have to think too much about where their donation dollars are going. Livin' in LaLa land. Sigh.
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I think Lisa's article is great. Maybe if enough speak out komen will change their ways. It is sad to know what we are all learning. I had BC 8 yrs ago and then again this yr and the only changes I see is more toxic chemo. Nothing else seemed to change in 8 yrs. I really don't think any pharmaceutical company is ever going to jump up and say that they found a cure. Look at the money they would lose. They can come up with vaccines for things that are contageous because they are at risk as well. Pharmaceutical companies are a major cause of pollunts that cause cancer. Talk about self feeders. This is a very interesting article and scary for all of us who have daughters and granddaughters.http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/oct/21/puberty-adolescence-childhood-onset?newsfeed=true
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My MO wanted to give me Herceptin even though I am HER2-. He said it wouldn't help me but it would give them data maybe to help others. I was like, wait a minute, I am stage IIIc, what do you have to help me? He kept coming up with all kinds of trials that wouldn't help me. My MO is the head of clinical trials in this area. I might be willing to take him up on one if it pertains to helping me, but I don't want to be a guinea pig for him. No offense to those who are HER2+. We are all looking for ways to help us survive.
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Herceptin reduces individual recurrence risk by 50% in those that are HER2+.
Dianarose I don't blame you for saying "no." There can be some serious heart related issues with Herceptin even it you are not getting it with chemo (Adryamicin). They are now seeing that the risk doesn't go away once you've been off the drug. Granted many of us have no issues… so far but only time will tell. The drug been standard care for early stage since 2006. This is not offesive to me at all (I'm HER2+).
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DevineMrsM-I cheated....i took some of your words and put it on fb...here is what I said......
It saddens me that so many of my freidns and family members work sooo hard for organizations that have lost sight of the ultimate goal to end breast cancer.Every single person is aware...FIND A DAMN CURE...
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Grannydukes I disagree. I've talked to lots of women while trying to raise money for the ACS Strides event. I tell them my story, no history, my lump was never felt. All were shocked to hear that only 5-10% of all breast cancers have a family history. Many don't now that it is any changes in your breast, not just a lump, is what then should be watching and call their doctors about. I spoke to 2 women this past week, 1 hadn't has a mammo in 6 years (in her 40s) the other in 2 years. While we might not have a cure early detection is also important.
But when I say awareness/education it's not awareness about the brand of the charity. It's about true education about the disease, reducing risk and what signs to what for in order to hopefully catch it early. Money should not only go for education but for research and assistance.
When your slogan is "for the cure" then most of your dollars should be going to research not brand awareness.
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This month I've read many articles about how our donation dollars for breast cancer are being spent. My eyes have also been open to the fact that despite billions of fundraising dollars, not much has changed.
Twenty-five years ago approximately 40,000 women in the U.S. died each year of breast cancer.
Today, approximately 40,000 women in the U.S. die each year of breast cancer.
Here is an article, please forgive the great big title, this is how it transferred from the web page I got it from and I don't know how to change the font size.
Are You Aware How LITTLE Has Changed in Breast Cancer in 25 Years?
Fran Visco
National Breast Cancer Coalition President
Twenty-five years ago, I sat in my doctor's office and heard these words: You have breast cancer. That was in 1987, when the world's population reached five billion, a gallon of gas was 89 cents, Ronald Reagan was president and the FDA approved AZT for AIDS.
I was 39 years old and a litigator at a Philadelphia law firm. My husband and I were enjoying being parents to our 14-month-old son. I paid attention to politics and to women's issues and served as a community volunteer.
I knew nothing about breast cancer. I thought since I had no family history, I did not have to. My diagnosis shocked me. So I responded in the only way I knew how: As a lawyer, I researched, analyzed and strategized. I learned that fewer than 1 in 4 breast cancer patients have a relative with the disease. That I was young to be diagnosed. That I had ER- breast cancer and that had a worse prognosis than ER+. That my cancer had spread to my lymph nodes. I decided to have a lumpectomy and radiation and I chose a different chemotherapy than what was recommended. I wanted something a bit less toxic.
I do recall sitting in the recovery room after my biopsy. The nurse entered the room, looked at me and my husband, and burst into tears. I remember thinking, "Oh my. I am going to die."
Twenty-five years later, I am still here. I don't know why. Twenty-five years later, and much has changed in the world -- the price of gas certainly, and so many other things. But if I were diagnosed today? Not much would be different. I would have the same treatment. And face the same prognosis. And have the same uncertainty. Not much has changed for women with breast cancer.
What troubled me then was that the medical profession had few answers for us. In 1987, the doctors did not know why some people developed cancer while others did not. They did not know why some cancer patients survived while others did not.
While the technology has advanced and we know much more about the science of breast cancer, we still don't know the answers to these questions. We still don't know why some cancer cells appear to be dormant for decades only to reemerge in other organs, or why some women are diagnosed with Stage IV breast cancer while in their 30's. And we still treat women with surgery, radiation and toxic chemotherapy. We still don't have the information we need about breast cancer so women can make better treatment decisions, avoid overtreatment and avoid death from the disease. We still have too many women and men who are dying from breast cancer. We have really learned so little that matters. It still feels like a crap shoot to most women, the same as it did to me 25 years ago.
One change is that today we are swimming in information and in data. The age of genomics is giving us vast amounts of information, as recent publications on breast cancer subtypes and genomics have shown. But gathering information should not be the goal. We are already sitting on mounds of data we do not know what to do with. While the identification of genomic profiles in breast cancer is an important tool that may lead to clinical success down the road, we must take care not to over-promise. Little has actually changed for women and men at risk and those with breast cancer because of this technology.
What does all this information mean for patients and those at risk? What has changed since 1987? More attention on breast cancer and awareness of the disease. More funding for research and organizations. Yes. But what about the things that really matter to women? Less treatment? More lives saved? Not much change there. Back in 1987, a woman's lifetime risk of developing invasive breast cancer was 1 in 8. Today? The same: 1 in 8. In 1987, 40,534 women died of breast cancer. The estimate for 2012 is that 39,510 women will die. Estimated diagnoses for invasive breast cancer have nearly doubled from 130,000 in 1987 to 226,870 in 2012. This is not the change I was seeking 25 years ago.
I have another vivid memory from the time of my diagnosis: Loss of control. I had no control over the fact that I had breast cancer. I couldn't really control the outcome of that diagnosis. I could choose one treatment over the other, but there was no promise that anything would work. One thing I could control though was what I was going to do about that. What I could do to change things for myself and for others.
I was fortunate. Within a few years of my diagnosis, I was invited to a meeting of 60 women (and one man) in Washington, DC to discuss an idea -- a national organization built as a coalition focused on ending breast cancer. That organization would become the National Breast Cancer Coalition. For the past 20-plus years, NBCC has been at the forefront of the fight to end breast cancer, demanding funding for research that saves women's lives, overseeing how those funds are spent, creating programs to provide access to care for uninsured and underinsured women with breast cancer and challenging our nation's leadership to make the end of breast cancer a national priority.
It has been 25 years since my diagnosis and 21 years since I came to the first meeting that launched the National Breast Cancer Coalition. It was two years ago that we set a deadline to end breast cancer by January 1, 2020. And, we have a plan to get there. But we need your help and support. So, take control and take action to create real change in breast cancer. Let's bring about outcomes that matter -- like lives saved. We can control that. When I am a 30-plus year survivor, I don't want to be writing a blog to you that says once again, "Nothing much has changed." Please,join our movement. Together, we can end breast cancer. My life changed with my diagnosis in 1987. I hope we can change the lives of others by saving them from that same experience.
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