Insurance denying chemo!

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I just found out today that my insurance company is denying my chemo treatments.They are now saying that the chemo I am doing is an experimental chemo, I guess because they have never seen the two drugs used together before. This is such a crock of sh#%! Onc. is trying to get it straightened out,but will not know anything till next thurs. Why the hell do you have insurance for high risk people if your going to deny payment on the treatments they need to survive? But who can afford 20 or 30 thousand dollars per treatment,which means I already owe upwards of 120 thousand dollars...

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  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    marywh - I am sorry to hear this. As if you needed to have cost worries on top of everything. You may have thought of the ideas I am about to suggest and even discussed them elsewhere, so I apologize if I am treading on familiar ground.

    You are Stage IV - have you thought of applying for acccelerated SS benefits, which should go with Medicare?

    Can your onc's office make a case to the insurer for you?

    Have you contacted the American Cancer Society in your area to see if they have resources?

    Have you thought of contacting the drugmakers of whichever chemos you want to take to see if they have some sort of a patient assistance program?

    Some of these options may be more time consuming than others. Best of luck!

    (How about telling your insurer "well, yeah, my stage IV is experimental too, mo fos! Tongue out

  • marywh
    marywh Member Posts: 2,280
    edited October 2012

    Im not on medicare yet, cant get disability-(am not deemed disabled yet. I geuss cause Im still breathing..) Not eligable for medicaid. I pay out the ass for this insurance, and pay all my medical bills on time so I can pay the 4500 detuctable so they will cover all my medical stuff. Onc. was really nice about it, has appealed the decision and raised a little hell. Hoping they'll listen to him as he is the head of a pretty large onc. group at a big hospital..so we'll see...

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    Breast cancer with distant metastasis is listed as one of several conditions eligible for SS benefits under something called "compassionate allowance." It's worth investigating. See here:

    http://www.ssa.gov/compassionateallowances/

    ETA: Also, some cancer charities help to pay for deductibles and copays. Try these links to see if they help:

    http://www.cancer.org/treatment/supportprogramsservices/app/resource-searchH

    (scroll down to the bottom for this one):

    http://www.breastcancer.org/tips/paying/lower_med_cost

  • NNBBFL
    NNBBFL Member Posts: 89
    edited October 2012

    marywh, Sorry to hear about your situation. I wonder if you have used an attorney to try to get disability or just tried on your own. I think that Athena is stating that Stage IV should be considered disabled, and then once on disability for 6 mo you should be able to qualify for early medicare. I believe I have also read this same information on the social security website so please don't dismiss that idea if you haven't tried with the assistance of an attorney who specializes in SS Disability as they know the ropes. The idea of going directly to the manufacturer is also a good idea. I also have an insurance plan for pre-existing conditions so am aware of the premiums, deductibles and limits in coverage. I was able to get my Arimidex from the manufacturer for $40 a month when the insurance company wanted several hundred for the generic or almost a thousand for the name brand. Wishing you the best.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    marywh - just added two more links to my post. Good luck.

  • marywh
    marywh Member Posts: 2,280
    edited October 2012

    Thanks so much for the information. Will absolutely look into these possibilities.

  • peggy_j
    peggy_j Member Posts: 1,700
    edited October 2012

    I'm so sorry to hear you're going through this. FWIW, the state of CA had actually sued the insurance companies before due to their sleezy rescission policies. (different issue but same crummy companies). Seems like this shouldn't happen but please don't lose hope. There are a lot of resources. Justice will prevail! (((hugs)))

  • marywh
    marywh Member Posts: 2,280
    edited October 2012

    The sad part of it all is that I was So glad to get this insurance in the first place. They make it sound like they're doing you such a big favor by covering you. and then pull this sh#%! Not only do I have a 4500 deductable, I am also paying 350 dollars amonth. The deductable starts all over again in January.

  • amberzas
    amberzas Member Posts: 30
    edited October 2012

    I'm new here, but I work in both the insurance and political field (long story) and you should go see your local legislator.  Usually local senate members, but someone from the House could help too.  You would be amazed at what a call from a Senator can do!

  • peggy_j
    peggy_j Member Posts: 1,700
    edited October 2012

    Re: high premiums. If it's any consolation my friend was charged $800/mo & her only pre-existing conditions were 1) being over 50 and 2) having her doc recommend a Rx for high cholesterol. She refused the drug and lowered her cholesterol through diet and exercise but the docs recommendation was enough to raise her rates. She'd lost her job when her company had gone belly-up so Cobra wasn't an option.



    The annual deductibles can seem high ....until I see the six-figure fees for cancer Tx. Glad we've stopped the annual and lifetime maxes.

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited October 2012

    You should definitely apply for SSDI. As Stage IV the compassionate allowance entitles you to an expedited evaluation. Approval is more likely for Stage IV because its acknowledged as terminal but still requires extensive documentation of disabling conditions that prevent you from working. One correction to NNBBFL post. Once approved for disability, it is a two year wait before going on Medicare, not 6 months. You may be confusing the 6 months before the first check arrives.

  • NNBBFL
    NNBBFL Member Posts: 89
    edited October 2012

    Chickadee

    Before stating a correction to my post maybe you should refer to the social security website and get current information. Certain "compassionate allowances" expedite the waiting period from 2 yr to 6 mo. "Breast Cancer - with distant metastases or inoperable or unresectable" is listed as a compassionate allowance. 

  • TAMallick
    TAMallick Member Posts: 10
    edited November 2012

    Before taking a insurence, we should evaluate every condition. Most of Insurance company are false, even you should sue against your insurance company.

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