Role/Reboot article about non reconstruction

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MT1
MT1 Member Posts: 371

I wrote this article and would love for you to read it, share it, comment on it. http://www.rolereboot.org/life/details/2012-08-i-chose-to-live-as-a-flat-chested-woman-after-breast

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  • cathy1968
    cathy1968 Member Posts: 50
    edited August 2012

    MT1 - just read and very much enjoyed your article!

    The option to simply go flat is one that should be more widely known.  Before I had bc, I thought mx was a radical treatment only used for advanced bc!!!!  Sounds ridiculous I know!  Especially since I used to work in the field of biology/science, and have always been well-read about womens' health issues.  How did I not know how prevelent mx's are in the treatment of bc?!  Ironically I now find myself nearly a year on from a Stage 0 bc dx and yes, a rmx!  (Reconstruction is too much surgery and complication risks for me personally, so I'm happy to stay half flat.)

    People know that bc happens, but they often don't know how frequently mx's also happen, sadly I think, because society pressures women to either hide it or fix it. 

    Kudos to you for helping get the word out that flatness is an option too!

  • BoobsinaBox
    BoobsinaBox Member Posts: 550
    edited August 2012

    Good job, Mel. Most of my first four years after bilateral I went flat, but when I moved to another state, I decided to wear foobs. One reason I stayed flat (and sometimes regret the foobs decision) is that I was able to talk to people and they were comfortable asking me questions about BC. I still share the info with women, and I have been amazed at how many women in my new location have also had mastectomies. I am better at spotting them now than I used to be. I finally saw my first flat woman a couple of months ago in a women's clothing store. She is undergoing treatment, I heard her tell someone else.



    Dawn

  • MT1
    MT1 Member Posts: 371
    edited August 2012

    Thanks for going and reading! 

  • hap_k
    hap_k Member Posts: 95
    edited August 2012

    I am currently debating to reconstruct or not. I enjoyed your article! It's a conversation that needs more fresh air! But no one wants to know. The women who aren't diagnosed are scared of the topic. Most of the wormen who are diagnosed are subtly (or not so subtly) pushed toward reconstruction. It's a industry! Part of me feels like I would be turning down an opportunity if I don't chose reconstruction. Another part of me feels like I would be avoiding some horrible con job (you should reconstruct!) that is being that is being foisted on women. The truth is probably in the middle somewhere.

    My question: How much is getting an implant really like getting a prosthetic limb?  Breasts are part of us, so is an arm. I can live without breasts easier than I can live without an arm, but people do live quite well without both. However, if science is offering us a choice, shouldn't we take it? I just keep going in circles.

    Hap 

  • MT1
    MT1 Member Posts: 371
    edited August 2012

    Hap_k, You know I am flat already.

    My opinion, it is mine, we all have an opinion, so take it or leave it.

    I don't want multiple surgeries. I don't want to rely on a doctor for the eventual outcome and hoped for result of reconstructive surgery. I don't want a foriegn object in my body. I don't want incisions in my belly or butt either. I am enough and so is my body. It is unfortunate that we have to decide this.

    But! 

    This is a very personal decision. You may find that you want or need to have reconstruction because you can't see yourself (in your mind's eye) in 10 years time without the shape you expect and would like to see in the mirror.

    I suggest you might check out the 'I look for flat chested women. A Rant' forum here in the non-reconstruction forum. There are half flat, flat, flat women who are considering reconstruction and another who is considering having the other breast removed for symetry. So there are a bunch of women in these forums that might help you with this portion of the equation. And of course, read up on the Reconstruction forum as well.

  • Dorbeth
    Dorbeth Member Posts: 3
    edited August 2012

    Aug 9,12 I had a mx on the right & removal of the silicone implant on the left. My most difficult decision was regarding reconstruction. One weekend I cried non stop as I weighed the options.

     17 yrs ago I had bc on the left & had a tissue expander put in at the same time. I didn't know at the time that I would need to keep going back to NYC to have the expander filled so to stretch the pec muscle. After every 'refill' my muscles would go into spasms. After 6 months, it was time to take out the expander & replace it with a saline implant. The PS also 'lifted' my right side to match the implanted side. Immediately following, I looked GREAT!!! But--over the years, I lost weight & about 5 years ago, the reconstruction needed to be redone. Now, the PS replaced the saline with silicone--more 'natural' he said. He also 'lifted' the right side to match the implanted side on the left. Over the 5 years, I regained some weight & the implant moved to under my armpit. I looked like I had had NO reconstruction on that side.-----so when invasive lobular cancer was found on my right side, I signed for mx on the right & removal of the implant on the left with NO reconstruction. I didn't want to go thru the numerous surgeries required for the implants & neither did I want to spend 10 hrs under anesthesia to move my abdominal muscles to my chest wall. I was NOT a candidate for the DIEP procedure. I feel absolutely GREAT!!!! & am thankful for a very quick, uncomplicated recovery. I will be 70 in Dec & fake boobs & a flat stomach is NOT important to me today. I am concentrating on continuing my life, enjoying my family & pets & helping others. I don't need breasts for those things!!!

  • crazypenguinsfan
    crazypenguinsfan Member Posts: 56
    edited August 2012

    Awesome article, been meaning to comment :) and I wish I had your sewing skills!

  • MT1
    MT1 Member Posts: 371
    edited August 2012

    Crazy Penguin? Thank you. Please like and share it on your social networks. I sure would like to get the word out. A small feminist onlinne magazine has asked to republish it, and that makes me happy.

    I do love sewing and it does come in handy now!

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited August 2012

    @MT1, I hope it's OK for someone who intends to have reconstruction to comment on this thread. I enjoyed your article. I only had cancer in one breast, so I only had that one removed. If I had needed both breasts removed, I might have contemplated passing on reconstruction, at least to see whether I could deal (emotionally) with being flat. Before my surgery, it wasn't the idea of missing a breast as such that freaked me out, it was more the idea of being aysmmetrical. Needing to have one leg or one arm or one eye removed would I think have affected me the same way--not that if faced with such a necessity I'd have had the other arm, leg or eye removed for symmetry! I also didn't like the thought that I would see a big diagonal scar when I looked down my front, and was very concerned to have the incision somewhere where even with reconstruction I wouldn't be forced to look at it every time I got dressed. I felt it would be a continual reminder of cancer, always forcing my illness into the forefront of my mind.

    Since I  planned (and still plan) to have reconstruction, I requested a skin & areola sparing surgery. When I woke up after the operation, I was very surprised to see how "un-flat" I am on the surgical side. I'm small-breasted to begin with, and unless I wear a snug-fitting shirt, it's not obvious that I'm missing one, even though I don't use a prosthesis. Because I still have an areola, it looks to me more as if my breast has been deflated than actually removed, and sometimes I think that is a help to me psychologically. I don't say this to try to convince anyone not to go flat or one-breasted, but because it makes me speculate about an in-between option of "flat with nipples", whether the original ones or tattooed replacements, and putting the incision somewhere other than the usual location where it is not so visually obtrusive, perhaps along the bottom of the removed breast (I don't know whether that is surgically feasible). Or is "flat with nipples" a contradiction? Is choosing to go flat mainly a refusal to fall in with society's gender perceptions, and keeping or replacing the nipples contradicts that refusal? Or is that too political, and being flat or being reconstructed is mostly about what makes or keeps an individual woman dealing with breast cancer comfortable in her own skin?

    Edited to add: I forgot to say there is also a thread with photos of the same woman in several different outfits, with and without her prostheses, another good resource for anyone considering non-reconstruction.

    (Edited by Mods to make the link clickable.)

  • MT1
    MT1 Member Posts: 371
    edited August 2012

    Curvebell.

    I appreciate your words and thoughts on this topic. 

    Please do not think that I am anti-reconstruction,  I am not. I think each women who faces the decisions we need to face once diagnosed, should be able to have the time it takes to make a decision that is right for her. I would hate to see women who might perfer non-reconstruction, rushing into construction because her doctors or support system do not even think of non-reconstruction (with the use of breast forms) and/or going-flat as an option. 

    By all means, women should get reconstruction especially if it makes her 'comfortable in her own skin'.

    I am advocating on behalf of women who feel the need to conform to the assumptions of our society, but not necasarily wanting to. My main contention is, this too, is part of the female experience, once diagnosed with breast cancer. For my part, I would -not- feel comfortable in my own skin with silicone implants or fat transfer, I would not feel comfortable wearing forms either. I no longer have breasts and I do not want to wear forms in order to look like I once did or to make others feel more comfortable with my choices. I just want to live as I am, a woman who, unfortunately, had breast cancer.

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited August 2012

    MT1, I hope I didn't give the impression I think you are anti-reconstruction, because I don't. I think it is possible to be "pro-flat", in the sense of advocating that going flat/one-breasted should be presented as an option to all who are in treatment for breast cancer, without being against reconstruction. That is the impression I get of you.

    When I was first diagnosed, I was given two videos to watch. One was about choosing between mastectomy and lumpectomy. The other was about reconstruction options, and it presented a wide range of options: none, prosthesis, implant or flap, with comments from women about which option they chose and why, plus "before & after" pictures at the end of women who had mx w/o reconstruction, implants, and flap surgery. I wish those videos were online so I could send the link to newly diagnosed women if they don't get it from their own doctors. I found them both really helpful in making those decisions.

  • MT1
    MT1 Member Posts: 371
    edited August 2012

    curvebAll,

    No, you didn't give me that impression, I just wanted to be quite clear, so that I did not step on toes. 

    I wish my doctors had or used a film like that. My doctors were realy good at making all the appointments for me but had no presentations like you describe. I wish they had. Mostly my doctors made me feel as though I were making a huge decision with emotional consequences that they felt I was not ready for. Maybe it is because I live in NYC and looks mean alot here, I don't know.

  • caaclark
    caaclark Member Posts: 936
    edited September 2012

    Great article!  I had a single mast. in 2006 and after weighing the options decided to skip recon.  I do, however, wear a prosthetic on the mast. side.  Somehow it makes me feel more balanced-if truth be told that refers to physically as well as emotionally.

    I do not regret my decision at all.  My docs encouraged me to look at the recon options but I really knew early on that I didn't want to go through recon.  After going for a consult  I was certain reconstruction was not the right decision for me.   My docs were and are very supportive.  I also had to wait to make my decision and I am thankful for that.

  • Outfield
    Outfield Member Posts: 1,109
    edited September 2012

    Curveball, 

    I'm sure what is possible varies with anatomy and tumor, but my surgeon did put my scars under my pectoral muscles.  If I ever get brave enough to post my flat nudie chest on these boards, I could show it.  I really do look like a 13 year old boy with no nipples:  the scars are not very prominent because of their location.  I imagine if a woman were small-breasted, it might not be possible. 

  • Galsal
    Galsal Member Posts: 1,886
    edited September 2012

    Thank you for sharing this article!  After already having had two separate surgeries for a BMX and an incomplete Diep, I am seriously considering not having any more reconstruction at least for quite some time if ever.  The number of surgeries involved with Implants freaks me out.  I'm 52 years old and single.

  • MT1
    MT1 Member Posts: 371
    edited September 2012

    You are welcome Galsal. Gosh.

     I had just the single surgery and I am still healing and dealing with effects! I just didn't want any of it.

  • Kati916
    Kati916 Member Posts: 3
    edited September 2012

    I had a total masc in june- reconstruction done immiedately- with "skin- nipple sparring' procedure. No one ever asked me about recon- becus I was part of a "study."  Well 1 wk after my surgery, & being home, I had to go back to hospital with chest wall staph infection, have 2 more surgeries to remove the implants- and right nipple- that they "now found cancer on".  I have never been in so much pain in my life, & after talking with a kind, knowlegeable dr, he also suggested I might think about "no reconstruction."  And when I told my ps & breast surgeon this, they both told me to wait before I made that decision." Actually I have to wait- until I am healed from the first 3 surgeries- but right now, I am looking forward to living my life to the fullest -& I dont need fake boobs to do it.  I am ME- its been hard to accept, but Ive made it this far, and I hope people love me for who I am- not what I look like.  Thanks for the great article.  PS - I was told by my ps-" Im their "1st patient to ever get a staph infection" after such a procedure."  It wasnt ME who gave me that staph infection- sorry i messed up their perfect record!  Feel more like an "experiment " to them than I do a patient-- does anyone know- can you change breast cancer drs in mid-course? 

  • not
    not Member Posts: 203
    edited September 2012

    GREAT article! I love it. Thank You so much. 

  • starzhere
    starzhere Member Posts: 162
    edited October 2012

    Curveball, I think you bring up a good point.  I think that the thing that looks the strangest to me about my chest is that I don't have nipples.  Everyone has nipples.  With nipple sparing masx, I wonder if the surgeon would do that for someone who does not want reconstruction.  That would be awesome.

  • cleomoon
    cleomoon Member Posts: 443
    edited January 2013

    Thanks for sharing your article. It seems to me it is such a personal choice. I really did not want reconstruction, yet really knew I would miss my nipples. I had a BMX after being diagnosed with LCIS. Decided to do nipple sparing, but not skin sparing. Found a surgeon who removed my nipples and then grafted them back during the surgery. I love being flat.

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