Starting Afinitor and Aromasin, what to expect?
Hi everyone,
I am going on week 2 of afinitor and aromasin. The first week left me nauseated and exhausted. I still work four days a week. I was so tired, barely able to make it through the week. It took me my surprise. I guess I was not expecting this. The only side effects my doctor warned me about were the mouth sores.
I was on fasodex injection monthly before and felt pretty good. The problems was that right side pleural effusion was getting worst, ended up getting thoracentesis.
Did anybody else feel this way? If so does it get better or worst? Also, when did women start getting cold sores? I guess any chemo will make you feel crappy. I am debating if I should go out on FLA or STD.
Thank you for in advance for you input.
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Hi Hope. Just found this board. I am on afinitor and aromasin, among many other drugs including perjeta/herceptin. I started on the afinitor in June. I have been on aromasin for the past two years. How much of the afinitor are you taking? I take the stronger dose, but only every other day. The only side effect that I've had from the afinitor is the big D. No mouth sores. I was taking the afinitor every day, but when I started on the perjeta/herceptin combo, my onc decreased the afinitor to every other day. The good news is that as bad as the D problem has been, it has been getting better. Not nearly as bad as it was initially. Hang in there. It's suppossed to be a great drug.
I've not yet had Faslodex, but I know that my onc is saving it in case I need it in the future. Did you have any weight gain on the Faslodex?
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There is a whole thread dedicated to this topic of what people have experienced on this drug combo. I am on it and heading into month 4, so far it is not as bad as I was expecting. I do get tired and have ritilan to help me thru the days I need to be somewhere or do something. Normally I take sunday to lay around and do nothing. Being football season makes that easy for me because I do enjoy watching it. As long as I take that one day it isn't too bad for me.
I'll try to find the other thread for you and bump it up.
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Hi LuAnn. I don't find the afinitor drug that difficult, only the GI issues and its not all the time. I really don't have the tiredness. Since you are Her2nu+, have you taken herceptin?
I will search for the thread. I just happened to come onto this one, but will search for the one you mention. If you find it, please post the info.
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so far i have been able to take full 10ml every day with aromisen. i found the first 12 hours the worst so now i take it at night and an hour later a take a sleeping pill, and i am doing well considering what this drug can do, also still walking or running, whatever my body feels like. and yes i also stay on couch for one full day. seems to help make it through the rest of the week. hope that helps some. i juice veggies for energy
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Thank you Susan. Interesting. I take the afinitor at night also. I usually don't have much problem in the morning. My big D issues start in the early afternoon and may or may not continue the remainder of the day. I think the fact that I'm on perjeta has made the problem worse. For right now, I'm taking the 10ML every other day and the aromisen every day. The perjeta side effects are suppossed to decrease with time, so I'm hoping to increase the afinitor then. I also find that taking Ativan at night helps to calm my stomach a bit. How long have you been on afinitor and have you had positive results?
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pearlady1, i am on my 3rd package. a/a . i am on the 10 ml still. my doc said this week i am only one of 2 of his patients able to stay on it and we both run bike and juice. have no idea if that makes a differene. all our bodies are so different. a did well on xeloda to. bad feet, but not as bad as most, but the xeloda only worked for 3 months. i seem to tolerate meds well but the cancer outsmarts them, thats were my trouble is. i take one tramadol a day to for the back spams and that tales care of that. now starting with bump irations on my head but they are not so bothersome. day to day, tuff stuff for our bodies to handle. keep me posted. hang in there
susan
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oh and positive results you asked too. i had 40 plus nodes for my recurrence, had double free ram 11 years ago. the xeloda brought all nodes back to normal size but like i said didnt last, so 5 more popped up, on a/a i have 2 small ones not changing and no mets anywhere else and i have been stage 4 for 1 /12 years now. so yes, i think the meds are doing there job..extending my life, with quality!
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Thanks Susan. Your results are encouraging. I'm hoping that your good results continue. That's really what it's all about, to extend our lives with quality. I have been stage 1V since 2001. I was also on Xeloda along with Tykerb, since I am Her2nu+. It did help, but like you, not for very long. Most women I've spoken to have not gotten much time from Xeloda, although it was a fairly easy drug for me to take. I've been on various combinations of drugs the past few years including Metformin, Nexavar and now Afinitor. My Dr. didn't tell me, but his nurse told me that most of the patients on Afinitor have had issues and have either cut way back or stopped totally. I'm committed to sticking with it and to upping the dose to every day as soon as the side effects from the perjeta calm down. I think I would be okay on the afinitor if it wasn't for the perjeta. Anywa, what's a bit of D as long as I have good quality of life and feel good most of the time, which I do. Thanks again. It's great to hear that its working so well.
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Hi Pearlady,
I take Afinitor 10 mg. and Aromasin 20 mg. daily. Also Xgeva monthy injections for bone mets. I think i have opposite problem of you big D (diarrhea)? I feel constipated and poor appetite.
I did gain about about 10lbs on fasodex, but just lost because i am no long hungry on Afinitor. I heard a lot of great good things about Afinitor.i hope it works for me and all of us!!!!
thanks,Hope
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pearlady1...stage 4 since 2001...now thats the best thing i have heard in a long time. you just made my day..thanks. i am a very positive proactive person, but when i heard stage 4 for me i was hoping to make in a year or so, thanks for posting that..i am going to celebrate, with my chin way way up..you go girl
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I think you should celebrate. Certainly I can't be the only one who is living with mets for 11 years. Yes stage 1V since 2001 and have been able to work, exercise and carry on my life pretty much as normal. My onc keeps saying that he thinks he can keep this under control for many more years and I hope he's right. Right now it has been a bit difficult with the perjeta, even more than the afinitor. The last few days have been good in that the big D has been much better, so maybe it's true that the side effects get better in time. I really do hope to increase the afinitor. There are so many drugs for ER+. Have you been on Femara? That was the best one for me. Gave me five years with normal Tumor Markers. I haven't had the Faslodex and hoping to keep that for the future as much as possible. Anyway, I think the positive attitude and the exercise really helps.
Hope hang in there. The afinitor did get better for me. Before I was on the perjeta I was taking every day. My big problem was the D. I did lose some weight, but was not too unhappy with that. My appetite is less, but I still do crave food sometimes. -
Hi girls...I just come in...today. LuAnnH indicated this discussione to me...may I ask what "big D" is?? I'm almost afraid to ask...
..diarrhea??
I do think that we could help ourselves with something like green tea...mushrooms...just to take care of our immune system too..
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Hi Paola2. Yes big D is diarrhea. I do find the afinitor causes that problem for me. But that has been the only major issue, so I guess not too bad. Actually I find that black tea helps the problem much more than green tea. I do drink green tea and realize the health benefits, but when the problem is bad, black tea and banannas seem to work best. Of course we're all different. Yes mushrooms are so healthy and good to have as much as possible.
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havent had the big "D" with this one. i have headaches all the time. and yes i have ben on femara, tomixefin first 5 yrs, and then femara, then it came back. did faslodex, but i was allergic to it, so they had me on lots of allergy meds and i 2 months it spread to a lot of lymph nodes, so it didnt work for me. then xeloda, that was fantastic, 48 hours all nodes normal size, and we are talking well over 30 of them. i stopped counting at some point..lol but that only lasted 3 months, but at least we were at a better starting point. then came chemo, forgot name, just released again after being off market for a long while, when a/a became available we switched to that. so i still have that other chemo on the table and i tink 3 or more. and they are always coming up with new stuff. yeah research!!!! hugs to all
susan
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Hi Susan. Haven't had the headaches, only GI issues, so I guess we're all different. I was on tamoxifen for four years, then switched to Arimidex after my bone mets in 2001. That worked for two years, then Femara for five years, which was great. I was also on Xeloda/Tykerb. The Xeloda worked for about 5 months. Everyone I've spoken to has had a similar experience in that it just doesn't last that long. Too bad, because it was an easy drug to take. Have not had the faslodex yet. He did mention it about two years ago, but I think he's saving it. I don't want to use all my options unless necessary. Believe it or not, I am back on Tamoxifen. My onc said that he's seen where it sometimes works again after not taking for many years. Since I'm her2 +, I'm waiting for the new TDM1. It's always good to have several drugs on the table and have a plan. I'm hoping to be able to up the Afinitor soon and stay on my current plan of Afinitor/Aromisin and Herceptin/Perjeta for as long as possible. Positive energy going out to everyone!!!
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Pearlady,
I am going on week three, and the side effects are getting better. Less tired amd not as nauseated.
Also, notice my cough is getting better. Before i started I was coughing more and nervous my lung pleural effusion was getting worst. I am actually feeling better being back on chemo.
You are an inspiration of 11 years with metz. It gives me hope to fight this awful disease. Positive energy continues !!!
Hope
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Well just to give you another boost, I have had mets since 2006 and still doing very wiell with little disease and decent QOL.
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love those positive stories!!!!!
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Hope, so glad that you are feeling better. I fouind also that the afinitor took a while for me to get used to. I'm only taking it every other day now since I started on the perjeta/herceptin, but I am beginning to feel better and less of the D from the perjeta, so I'm hoping after my next consult tomorrow, we have a plan to get the afinitor back up.
LuAnn, great news that you are doing so well. I love to hear positive stories also. What are you currently taking? I see that you are triple positive like I am, so just curious what you are doing.
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afinitor was recommended for me today. i'm waiting for copay info. wondered if you had any issues with your prescription drug program with this drug and if you had to pay a huge copay/
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pearlady, right now I am on afinitor/aromasin. I worked my way through all the AI's along with hercoptin for over 5 years. In January it progressed into my lung. We used navelbine/herceptin for 6 months and it cleared up all of the progression. We switched to afinitor aromasin because I hated navelibine and was experiencing alot of s/e. My onc figured I would want a breat and since I did so well on AI's before he has high hopes this will work for quite a while for me. I always know that navelbine is sitting there waiting for me if I ever need it again...
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Ejnova my understanding is that since Afinitor has been approved for breast cancer, there are no issues with insurance paying for it. I have not had any problem with insurance paying. My co-pay is the same as for other drugs.
Thanks LuAnn. I was curious as to what you're doing since you are also triple positive. I have not had the navelbine and don't know much about it. I have been on herceptin since 2003 without a break. I've just had perjeta added to the herceptin which has been a little challenging with the GI side effects. Now my onc wants me to have a her2nu elisa blood test. I think that's what it's called. It's suppossed to measure the Her2nu activity? Do you know anything about that? Not sure if the perjeta is working and I think he wants to reconfirm the her2nu status since when I had a bone biopsy last year the her2nu did not show up. Not sure why he didn't mention it then. He claims that he's sure that I still have her2nu, since usually with bone mets the her2nu status doesn't change, but needs to confirm anyway. All this of course has me a bit stressed. I guess I will have to wait and see, I've been through all of the AI's also but have not had faslodex. So I guess if the her2nu doesn't show up, that's the next step. All very unsettling. Meanwhile I asked him about increasing the Afinitor and he said he wanted to check the her2nu status first. I guess I'm glad for all of the options available.
I hope that the Afinitor is working well for you. All in all, it's not that difficult a drug and the good news is no hair loss. I can deal with the GI issues as I've gotten used to it.
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my insurance copay for drugs is around 30%. and since afinitor is $21,000 for 90 days i'm not going to be able to handle $7,000 every 90 days. i haven't heard from insurance as to what they're going to pay but my onc did say they would help me sort it out with the patient advocacy group for the drug company. i'll let everyone know how it goes
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i am soooo tired of my headaches...send ice please..lol
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Susan, so sorry about your headaches. Is that from the afinitor? Isn't there anything that you can take? I can't send ice but am sending positive thoughts and energy.
Ejnova. Wow I didn't realize the afinitor was so expensive. My co-pay is much less than that and I honestly didn't realize the price of the drug. I hope that the patient advocacy group can offer support. It's ridiculous. Between the pharmaceutical companies and the insurance companies, its become so difficult. Best to you and please let us know what happens.
Hope. just wanted to check in with you to see how you are feeling? You had said that you were starting to feel better. I hope that is continuing.
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Susan what is causing your headaches? Could it be all the weather changing???
As far as the cost of my afinitor, they got mine approved for finanacial assistance. I have no clue who it was through and how they did it. I got one call with the copay of 2,500 and 3 days later a call saying everything was set and no copay. I would ask the pharmacy that your onc uses to see if they can appy for financial assistance for the drug.
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the cost is a $20 co-pay for me. my ins has been great. sorry cant help with that.
headaches...dont know cause. when i started on the combo i started w/headaches. but also a lot of muscle tightness, neck, shoulders, jaw, and upper back. think the headaches are coming from that. allergic to advill and such. my thought was the aromisen while killing hormones, is also getting rid of the "relaxing" agent that is in hormones. doc and i working on it, but only ice seems to help. need an anti inflammatory that i am not allergic to i think. actually did try benedryl, and that helped a little..work in progress i guess. hope everyone is having good day today. hugs to all
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Hi ladies, I just happened to find this site. I am so late to this conversation and not even sure any of you will see this post. I have had mets diease since 2001. Cancer moved to my liver. Tamoxifen worked for many years. Started xeloda in 2009 when things started acting up again. The hand foot side effects were bothersome but doable. After 6months, I started abraxene which worked for about 7 months? Then I enrolled in a trial for cytoxan (spelling) and eribulin. My tumors shrank at first but more important, over time, they didn't increase in size and strength. During all this my life was always active and side effects minimal. But after 18 months of no hair, I started to get down and approached my doctors. It was then that I was told about the afinitor/aromasin combination. After 3 months of treatment (I started in Oct 2012) my tumors decreased significantly in size and strength (my doctor calls it the glow factor). I take 10 mg of afinitor Mon thru Friday, 5mg on weekends. 25mg aromasin every day. I tolerate the mouth sores but at times, it gets bad. I was given a mouth rinse for them but misunderstood and learned I need to use 3times a day (not when I get one). I continue to live a very active life and finally I have hair again: a cute short boy cut which I love. Being that I have lived with mets for over 12 years, I hope this gives someone out there HOPE.
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Hello everyone, My mom is scheduled to go on this combo shortly. My dad just called to tell me that this will cost them $2000 a month. Dad is 77 and mom is 73, so fixed incomes. Apparently our govt has taken great pains to exclude alot of the cost from medicare coverage. Does anyone have any tips about getting aid or help with the cost of this drug? I can't believe how outrageous the cost is. Thank you
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Contact the manufacturer. They have financial assistance plans under some circumstances.
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