Starting Chemo October 2012

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  • alcb70
    alcb70 Member Posts: 166
    edited October 2012

    Jennie-I am feeling your pain. I had shorter hair, but lots of it.  I am SO very self conscious even with hair.  I buzzed my hair on Friday. I feel like this crap takes so much from you!  I wanted to keep my head covered, and not let my husband see me....but the constant covering on my head was driving me batty. As for the slipping, so far I still have the 5 o'clock shadow because they didn't shave it but just took it as close as they could with the clippers, and it sticks on that like velcro (attractive eh?)  My hair is due to come out on Wed.  I am walking in the ACS Strides Against Breast Cancer walk today. I thought if I was around all those strong women, and they don't have hair either...maybe I would feel stronger about this. My neice who is a senior in high school shaved her head!  Her mom (my sister-in-law) was diagnosed w/BC at 40, and is a 9 yr survivor.  If a young girl can be so courageous to shave her head in honor of her mother and I (at such a vulnerable point in her life; in the shark tank that is high school).....how can I be so worried.  As a nurse, I keep telling myself that if people see me without hair or with a scarf or hat, maybe it will prompt them to get their mammogram, or do their self exam. It could actually help to save someones life!  Your tenacity and strength define who you are....not your hair.  Your true friends (and of course your loved ones) will see YOU whether you have hair or not.  I can say this to you....because I have to say it to myself everytime I look in the mirror.  It sucks, and I still cry, but this too shall pass. There's a bigger fight, and (unfortunately) bigger hurdles to get over.  It will grow back, and we will survive! :)

    MsCich-I am VERY worried about your numbers!! Of course MD's know MUCH more than nurses.....but if you were on my floor....you would be on special precautions and we would have to be suited up in mask, gown and gloves because you would be considered neutropenic. I am worried they are not treating you with Neulasta or Neupogen.....although I would hate for you to risk feeling crummy with the possible side effects. Are they watching your numbers closer (like lab draws daily or every couple of days)?  I know I haven't been on an oncology floor in a long time, and maybe the parameters have changed, but PLEASE be TREMENDOUSLY cautious with your exposures!! Watch your temperatures as well. Despite all that worry, hope you have a great time with your daughters party! :)

    I hope everyone has a wonderful day!!  Keep your fingers crossed I can make the 5K walk today!! It's supposed to be in the 50's and rainy. :(

  • Goldfinch
    Goldfinch Member Posts: 30
    edited October 2012

    301724, talk to me about this core swelling thing. I'm 2 days out from my first TCH treatment, and my tissue expander "boobs" hurt like crazy. Is this normal? Is it because of the chemo, the steroids, or something else? It's not the incisions or anything, just they feel very heavy and like they are weighing down (drooping down) on me. Help!

  • 301724
    301724 Member Posts: 478
    edited October 2012

    Hey Goldfinch - not sure what it's from. Foobs (DIEP) feel swollen and belly where tissue was taken is swollen. I'm drinking a lot and peeing so not sure what's up with this. Am guessing it's either from the steroids or one of the chemo drugs. Plan to ask my MO tomorrow.

  • susan3
    susan3 Member Posts: 3,728
    edited October 2012

    jeanie,  i had gotten a great wig, no one knew it was a wig, first day on i t blew off my head while driving, way to the back of course, so i couldnt retrieve it. so thats the long and short of my wig story. went to female colored baseball caps after that. have them in all the fall colors. hardest part was getting out there the first time. so the first time i put the cap on, i did all my errand running that i usually do in a week and got all the "looks" from those people you dont really know but always bump into. what i actually took from that time, was how kind everyone was. it was obvious, with the cap and all, so many people would stop me and ask how i was doing and said they would pray for me. for me that was cool.  but when my hair first came out i sat in a corner and cried for 3 days. then i went out with my chin held high :)  hugs to all

  • melissa119
    melissa119 Member Posts: 172
    edited October 2012

    Hello all!

    I see a lot of you talking about the hair loss. That by far for me I think was the hardest part even more than the BMX. That is such a big tell of what we are going thru. I think I would have had the hardest time seeing myself bald every day. I am not a hat person and could not bring myself to wear scarves. A mom in town works for a hair solutions company that I went to. She ordered me a real hair unit in my color and put highlights in to match my own. About 2 weeks after my first AC my hair started to fall out. Before it got really bad and too hard for me handle watching it come out I went to her with 2 close friends. She turned me away from the mirror and buzzed my head. Then she put my wig on which was glued on and would stay on for 4 weeks at a time. I sleep in it shower with it and wash it like normal. I went to the beach all summer and waterpark with my kids. It was expensive but gives me such piece of mind as that is one less reminder daily of my "illness". I was so worried about my kids seeing me without hair and with this they still have no idea. Everyone I see cannot believe how much like my own hair it looks like. I have had it for 3 months now and it was the best money I ever spent :-).

  • BethBV
    BethBV Member Posts: 49
    edited October 2012

    Hi, all!  I'm also new here.  I'm Stage IIA Grade 2.  The breast tumor was 1.8 cm and there was an axillary tumor of 3.2 cm with "extra capsular extension" (they only found 5 nodes and 3 of those were positive).  I have been offered a place in a study of the Oncotype DX score in cases of ER+ cancers of less than 2 cm with 1 to 3 nodes involved.  If the Oncotype Score is below 25 then I'll be eligible for the study and I will be randomly placed in a "chemo" or "no chemo" group.  The "no chemo" group would go directly to radiation and then to hormone-blocking.

    Right now I don't think I'm brave enough to go into the study.  That huge tumor in the node has be bothered.  Also that they only found five nodes total.  My guess is there are some nodes left under that arm that could very well be positive.  My oncologist seems to be one that really doesn't want to influence my decision so he's being a bit too closed-mouthed for my liking.  "You only have 3 nodes involved.  The tumor was only 1.8 cm." Etc.  He is taking things totally at face value and discounting the size of the axillary node, the ECE, and that there were two other IDC (multifocal) and "multiple DCIS" as well.

    If you were in my shoes, would you take the chance on the hormone-blocking therapy alone on insist upon chemo?

  • 301724
    301724 Member Posts: 478
    edited October 2012

    Hi Beth,

    I'd go for the chemo. I"m all for clinical trials except when it's me and I think there's good evidence on which to base the decision. FYI - I polled a number of my friends/colleagues before I decided to proceed with chemo for an oncotype DX score of 27. Good luck with the decision!

  • halfcan
    halfcan Member Posts: 253
    edited October 2012

    Hey ladies, just jumping in to say hi all. Today is my birthday and I am happy because the SE's are not giving me too hard a time and I should be able to enjoy some dinner!!! I wish everyone the best tonight and sleep easy. Hugs

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited October 2012

    Happy birthday and Thanksgiving!

  • MrsCich
    MrsCich Member Posts: 409
    edited October 2012

    9 days tomorrow since my first TC infusion. Other than the fatigue and tastebuds being gone, in doing great. I did have a horrible yeast infection and believe it or not, chemo induced acne but its getting better. I look like a 14 y/o girl going through puberty with these bumps everywhere.



    My white blood count is non existent but I didn't get a Neulasta shot. I think it's because I have plenty of time for them to be boosted up before my next infusion on Oct 19.



    Hope you ladies had a SE free weekend. It was beautiful here in South Mississippi.



    ((((((Hugs)))))))

  • Goldfinch
    Goldfinch Member Posts: 30
    edited October 2012

    Happy birthday, halfcan! I hope you had a wonderful day!



    MrsCich, how was the zoo/insectarium with your 4yo? My DD just turned 4 a few weeks ago- she loves all animals and bugs so would have had a blast with your family today!



    I had a pretty crappy day as far as SE's go. But then I took some meds, ate a yummy meal my DH made for me, and I truly feel a million times better! Hope it lasts through until tomorrow!



    Goodnight and sweet dreams ladies!

  • MrsCich
    MrsCich Member Posts: 409
    edited October 2012

    Goldfinch, she LOVED it. We also went to the aquarium of the America's. We have a family pass so all the Audubon parks in New Orleans are free for us. She has such a great day. The weather was perfect too. High was about 70 and breezy. I'm sooooooo exhausted from all the walking and I sat every time I saw a bench. Lol



    Oh, I forgot to mention to you all, I go tomorrow to pick up my wig and scarves. Pinkheartfunds.org is a local non profit organization that does wigs, prosthetic bras, lymphedmia sleeves, etc. and she ordered mine and is showing me how to wear it and such. Kind of feeling uneasy. I haven't lost any hair and I read and hear its anywhere from 10-21 days following your first infusion. Blah.



    Glad you are feeling better Goldfinch.

  • CelineFlower
    CelineFlower Member Posts: 875
    edited October 2012

    acne!!! me toooo!! omg i hate it ...lol

  • Mumtothree
    Mumtothree Member Posts: 37
    edited October 2012

    Happy birthday halfcan, hope you really enjoy it.

    BethBV, I'd go for the chemo absolutely - I'd want all the treatment available. They told me I was a borderline case for chemo as the benefit was small, but I'd rather take any improvement there is than suffer a recurrence later and wish I'd done it differently.

    I'm now day 6 post first FEC. I have been so tired the last couple of days that it was hard to even string words together into sentences, and I have slept most of the day. No way could I work through this! My mouth is a little sore today and I'm avoiding all food with even slightly sharp edges (stupidly had a toasted sandwich last week which probably started this off). My BMX scars have been uncomfortable since about day 2 - heavy and dragging sort of - is this the core swelling that people are talking about? There is definitely a small amount of seroma, which I guess is the result of fewer platelets and continued small amount of post op ooze internally?

    Michelle, thinking especially of you and hoping your results are good.

    Best to everyone - and thanks Marian, your raccoon comment made me smile! 

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited October 2012

    Happy birthday halfcan!!! I hope your day was wonderful!



    Beth: Follow your gut. Collect all the information you possibly can and trust that little voice. If it's still unclear to you, you should ask your onc for more help or seek a second opinion. Don't do (or not do) anything that makes you uncomfortable.



    Thinking of you all ... My appointment with my new (local) onc is tomorrow - fingers crossed for matching treatment opinions with the Cleveland Clinic and Houston Methodist. I can't handle any confusion right now. I have been on vacation from cancer (as much as possible) since my BMX and tomorrow I get to jump back into the game again :(



    Possible first tissue expansion with temporary (local) plastic surgeon Tuesday. GAH!



    xoxo

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited October 2012

    Back from my new MO. She was nice and I am confident with her. She recommended TC every three weeks x 6 + one year of Herceptin, which was a relief. They also want me to participate in the APHINITY trial, but I am scared. I doubt I will have the courage to do it. As a pharmacist, I know that we need studies to bring new standards of care, but as a patient it is just so very scary. Right now this additional drug has only been approved for metastatic cases.

    So - meet temporary PS tomorrow, maybe an expansion ... chemo class Wednesday, echo and transvaginal US Thursday, port placement Friday and first infusion next Wednesday. Went for my flu shot today; feels weird to be on the receiving end since I'm usually the one giving them :(

    Getting nervous for sure now - hope everyone is doing well.  

  • Abby20
    Abby20 Member Posts: 102
    edited October 2012

    Poke I signed up for the APINITY too, I know your concerns but I just thought I will give it a try.



    BTW: I'm. Pub health specialist and would rather to stay away from unnecessary medical interventions but I read so many promising things about this drug! Lets hope



    All the best

  • smali
    smali Member Posts: 11
    edited October 2012

    301724 and goldfinch, I'm having the same discomfort after first infusion. My chest is very tight again despite the stretching I've been doing, and my scars are very irritable. I have no reconstruction. There is mild swelling under my arms and everything in my chest, neck, and back just feels sore. I made an appt with my surgeon just to be safe. My onco nurse said it shouldn't be the chemo, and I felt surprised that this wasn't more common. I kinda feel it's the steroids and the giant bag of saline they pumped into me.



    My husband says I'm walking all hunched over again like the week after surgery, which is probably making it worse ;-)

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited October 2012

    Thanks, Abby. You're so brave!! I hope for the best for you and haven't decided for myself yet. 

  • 301724
    301724 Member Posts: 478
    edited October 2012

    Hi smali,

    Actually the onco nurse today said it was the Taxotere. She says that next time they'll extend my steroids with 3 days of oral after the IV on the day of infusion. Likely too late at this point in the cycle but they're thinking about it. She also said the swelling could be cumulative. That would be a bummer. I'm tight and itchy. They said to watch out for difficulty breathing - that would be a real emergency.

    Hoping for decreased swelling for all!

  • Mumtothree
    Mumtothree Member Posts: 37
    edited October 2012

    Sorry if I'm invisible, but regarding the swelling, I have it too, and I'm not receiving Taxotere!

    I see my oncologist this afternoon and will ask him about it. It's about the worst thing about the chemo so far, I think. 

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited October 2012

    I must have missed page 7 ... Jalessi, I hope you are feeling better by now, and Michelle, I am praying for you and hope your procedures aren't as scary as they sound. 

  • Tlym
    Tlym Member Posts: 115
    edited October 2012

    Initial pathology on my biopsy showed me to be ER+ (75%); it was redone at Stanford and was determined to be triple negative, and subsequent pathology on tumor after lumpectomy was also triple negative. Due to huge discrepancy, MO sent specimen out for additional testing. Got the results of my Oncotype Dx today, and it confirms I am a true triple negative. There's no question that I will be starting chemo this month. So scary because this is my only chance of nipping this darn cancer in the bud! I was really hoping the ER would show at least a small percentage of being positive, so I could benefit from additional treatment. Have opted for TC x 4 starting on 10/24. Cold caps, too.

    Sending positive thoughts and hugs to all you ladies! Michelle, thinking of you and saying an extra prayer for you tonight. 

  • Mumtothree
    Mumtothree Member Posts: 37
    edited October 2012

    Update re swelling/tightness around scars etc - my oncologist didn't know what caused it - just happy there was no sign of infection. Seems strange that many people are reporting it but the docs don't seem aware..??

  • Fastforward14
    Fastforward14 Member Posts: 16
    edited October 2012

    Happy birthday!!! Hope you enjoyed your day :)

  • Goldfinch
    Goldfinch Member Posts: 30
    edited October 2012

    Mumtothree, yeah that is weird...I will ask my MO on Thursday...it just seems odd that people with and without TEs are noticing it, as are people on various chemo meds.

    How is everyone doing today? I spent most of the day battling the big D before my DH was able to get some immodium to me (I know, way to be unprepared). So it was a big painful waste of a day for me :(

    Poke, I'm glad you like your new MO. So important. It sounds like you will be very busy with appts the next few days- stay strong!!!

    Michelle, thinking of you and hoping to hear some good news.

  • 301724
    301724 Member Posts: 478
    edited October 2012

    My PT worked on some of the swelling for me this AM. It felt great. But I notice that it gets worse as the day progresses. My MO wants to see me early tomorrow AM so may have more info after that.

  • Elocin
    Elocin Member Posts: 20
    edited October 2012

    Hi everyone! I'd like to join this thread. First treatment today and went well. Like others my only se thus far is slight headache and fatigue maybe from Benadryl. Port installed 9/12 and so happy I did. For CT-contrasts it once took 3 techs and ultrasound to get good vein. No pain today at port even though I didn't put the Emla cream on correctly. No Saran wrap. I went in at 10a and was out by 4. I am frustrated that I cannot get 6 appts scheduled ahead for tx's. My office schedules next during last. Makes so hard to schedule work. I am a 911 supervisor so I sit most of the time but my hard work is in other areas and I am frequently on the floor. Though with treatment hard or easy doesnt matter much gift you are obligated when you really should be taking care of yourself and resting. My plan now is to request 4 hour shifts through FMLA with my doctor's blessing. Also I got lymphedema early in torso but physical therapy has greatly helped. I've been looking at wigs and thinking of buzzing my hair this weekend. Wigs online don't always appear the same n person and that has been a challenge. It has been hard to find a specialist in my area. I know this is long but I haven't posted in a while on the other threads. Healing physical and emotional prayers for everyone on this journey.



    Elocin

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited October 2012

    Welcome Elocin! I just got my port put in Friday so it is still tender both where I guess they threaded just below my collarbone and at the port itself, especially when I drove this afternoon for the first time. I will take a small pillow next time as recommended on another thread. But my question is what is the correct method for the EMLA cream and what is the saran wrap thing? I am off to "chemo teach" on Thursday and no doubt I can get answers there too but I am on a waitlist for the chemo room so want to be prepared!

    Marian 

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited October 2012

    Marianelizabeth: I use a pillow with my seat belt to help relieve pressure on my expanders and it really, really helps. Otherwise, I end up fussing with it the whole time and holding it away from me. 

    My new plastic surgeon was GREAT. He was so nice and sat with me for an hour. Took off my steristrips, cleaned me up, placed new ones, and talked me into my first expansion. I got 50cc on each side and I am feeling ok right now. I took some Aleve just in case. I could not bear to look down at my fresh scars for the first time, I will save this for another day. The new steristrips can stay on for a week. He seems to think everything looks wonderful.

    He wants to get me a new surgeon for my port as opposed to the radiology team. Evidently it can make a big difference. He is going to call tonight and try to get me in with him instead. I'll take any favors I can get :)

    Otherwise, unless port placement Friday gets changed, I am still due to start chemo Wednesday. Class tomorrow.

    I hope everyone is doing well. I went to ACS to look at wigs and head covers but my best friend arrives from Seattle this weekend and I could not bear to try anything on without her. She will come with me next week for a cut; I don't think I will buzz it, but it will be as short as I can muster until it starts to come on its own.

    Much love to you strong, brave ladies. 

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