To be flat or uniboob, please help
Hello all, I'm new to this forum but not new to the site. I was diagnosed stage iv from the get go almost 3 years ago. I have not had any surgery but am now scheduled for a mastectomy because of a very painful tumor. They will not be removing any nodes. I am a 38DD and asked my surgeon about being lopsided. She said tha it would not be a problem and a prosthesis should take care of that. I seem to have this real aversion to looking at myself with one breast. It seems like something more symmetrical would be better. My surgeon doesn't like the idea of removing something that isn't damaged and is diswading me from a double. I would love to hear from those of you who have only one well endowed breast and how it has been for you.
Thank you, in advance, for your stories,
Pat
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Hello Pat
I'm so sorry you are going through all this, you've had so much to deal with already.
I had a single mx 2 years ago - I had pretty large breasts, I'm in Australia so not sure if our sizes are the same as yours but I was a 38DD and when my breast was removed it weighed 1.1kg, which is almost 2 1/2 pounds.
I hated looking at myself with just one breast for a long time, but now it doesn't worry me.
I also had ILC and asked my bs to take both breasts. He talked me out of it, and I really, really wish I'd insisted. I don't want the worry I have now that it will come back in the other breast. I've already had a scare (just a couple of weeks ago) where I found new lumps in my "good" breast.
I wear a prosthesis - although only when I'm out or have visitors - and it's pretty good. I don't wear anything at home, not even a bra and don't feel lopsided or off balance, although I think it took a couple of months for my body to get used to it. I don't really remember as I was going through chemo at the time and too busy with se's from that lol.
You will have to make your own decision (I know doesn't everyone tell you that!
) but for my part I'm used to being one sided, the foob doesn't bother me, but I do wish I'd had them both off.
Good luck with your decision and let us know how you go.
Sending you gentle (((((hugs)))))
Trish
xoxo
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Thank you for your input, Trish. Granted its only been a couple of hours since this was presented, but I just can't Get use to the idea of seeing myself with one.
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I hope that I am not going to step on any toes here and please remember that this is my experience only. I was Diagnosed almost 9 weeks ago with Breast Cancer, my Surgeon gave me all the options. I was a 42 F and if I chose to do anything other than a double Mastectomy I would have had to do breast reduction on both as well as dealing with the cancer. Come to find out it was the best decision that I could have made. My tumor size was 7 cm and it did not go into lymph nodes, I was stage 2 but what came out on the path report was that I had paggets disease in both nipples, I would have been facing Breast Cancer again in a few years. I lost 14 pounds in breast tissue. For me it was a very personal decision and I am so thankful that my surgeon gave me the medical stuff about all my options, allowed ,and supported the decision that I made. i will be 7 weeks post op on Friday. I am totally flat, still healing, will be doing intensive thearpy for lymphedema starting on Monday for 2 weeks. I have had to buy new shirts and I am still getting use to how I look and feel.
This is your journey, your body, your decision. It is not easy and the last 9 weeks have been the hardest in my life but I am so thankful that I had the support, the information, and a surgeron who listen. Ask questions, go with your heart, pray. You will know what is right for you.
You will be in my thoughts and prayers. Let us know how you are doing
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Cheryl, my experience was similar, except my entire bust weighed 2 lbs. 14 lbs! Himmelgott! (as the Germans say).
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Chryl1417, thank you for sharing. My gut tells me that having them both off will be more convenient and less problems. I mean, it only makes sense. It the docs don't seem to have the same attitude and are good at talking me out of it.
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I was not big, in fact very small, but I would definitely want both removed. I couldn't imagine being really big and then to have one. Just my opinion but its easy for the dr to say a prosthesis would be no problem. It seems to me like a huge hassle and inconvenient! I love that I don't need a bra, prosthetic, and just put on a shirt and that's that! I had implants but they are small so same idea. Don't know if u are considering that or not. Regarrdless, it just seems like it would make life so much easier to be even. A no brainer imo. I wouldn't let the dr talk u out of it. I would be insistent. Of course it might not be everyones opinion. Maybe it would help to make a list of pro and con. That is what I did and there was only one con which was loss of sensation. To some people that matters but to me it wasn't even a con.
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Frapp, I have heard of Surgeons trying to talk pts out of doing a bilateral, in face about 2 weeks after my surgery, a fried called me about another friend and she wanted to do a bilateral and her surgeon didn't want to do it, she ended up changing surgeons and went to mine. Doing the bilateral was not a easy decision for me but due to having to have reduction as well as taking care of the cancer it was the best choice for me. i was also scared to death that the cancer would come back in the other breast and I wanted to do everything that I could to decrease my chances of that happening. I chose not to do reconstruction the day of surgery so it will be a year and I will re look at that.
I am so thankful that my Doc gave me all the options, the medical data behind it and left it up to me. Even after I made my decision when I met with her, I had 40 questions for her, stuff about the drains, dressings, length of surgery, etc. I hate that you are going through this, trust me I know, I am still in it and it is so fresh.
Please do not let you Doc talk you into anything that you are not comfortable with, this is your body, you will have to live with the decision for the rest of your life. Your surgeon should be supportive, providing you with the medical data of all the options.
I am so thankful for the women that has gone before me in this, they helped make changes in treatments etc, years ago women did not have all the options that we have now, medical advances have been huge and they understand breast cancer so much more now. I personally think that women surgeons getting into the field have helped as well.
Keep us posted on how you are doing, and if you need to talk feel free to contact me. Just remember that I am new to all of this and I am only 7 weeks post op. You will be in my thoughts and prayers
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HLB, the first surgeon, who was against the prophy on the left side, actually tried to get me to talk to a plastic surgeon to assure me that they could reconstruct to match the left-over breast. That infuriated me, especially since the guy hadn't bothered to get an onc on board.
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Hi Frapp,
I don't know if this will help you or not, but here goes. I too am well endowed at 34DD. I had a uni-lateral in 2009 and went 3 years without recon. It had a very profound effect on my psyche. I hated it and as time passed that sentiment grew stronger. I had a difficult time finding a prosthetic that was symmetrical with my natural side, plus the prosthetic was very uncomfortable; hot in the summer and cold in the winter. I never felt, as they say, "comfortable in my own skin". When you're surgeon states that a prosthetic will take care of the lop-sided issue, she is not speaking from personal experience and her statement only address your outward appearance, not the day to day issues of living that way. You might mention this to her because too often the psychological effects of this are brushed aside.
Although I'm in my 50's, I'm in good shape, very active and felt I didn't want to go the rest of my life lop-sided. I considered, briefly, a prophylactic mx on the natural side, but couldn't go thru with it. I've ended up going for DIEP reconstruction on the cancer side and a reduction on the other. I'm halfway through the process and glad I went this route.
I'm not saying what's right for me is right for you, we're all different, our life circumstances are different, only you can decide what's best for you. Good luck.
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I had a uni and wear a prosthetic (known here as a foob). At times I wish I had done a double, but in clothing I don't look unbalanced. I usually wear the foob, even at home, because I was having back problems and my massage therapist thought the imbalance might be contributing. I was a 38D. I have not ruled out having the other one removed to match. If I did that I would wear camisoles with tiny little foobs or nothing at all. The downside of having both removed would be that my tummy would be the part sticking out the most.
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I can't thank you all enough for sharing your personal experiences with me. I know that what happens to one may not happen to another, but your input is very valuable in helping me decide what is right for me.
Wren44, you have touched on a thought that I have been having. My stomach will definately be the part that sticks out. Everything moved to my middle when I started taking the AI's. I had a conversation with the social worker today and she says that a reduction is a lot less invasive that a mastectomy. So maybe a reduction with the mastectomy might be a way to go. I will have to investigate that more. I just know that I will not ever be able to mentally embrace looking at 1 DD on one side and nothing on the other.
Again, thank you all!
Pat
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I got diagnosed with b/c twice. The later one was after 11 years . The surgeon I spoke to was surprised I got that long. He told me with each year that passes the odds are you will get in the other breast. Maybe I was miss informed but I was mad as hell thinking I should have just got them both off in the first place.now I have wonderful prosthesis that adhere really well to your skin so u can wear normal bras . Some clothes look better without boobs so I don't wear them all the time . As I had very small boobs I now have fun wearing a C cup .
I agree 1 boob looks untidy . I use to hold mine & think how much better my chest would look without it lol.though 1 boob is handy so you know how high to wear your bra.
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I was a 38 DD (heading to a a bigger cup). I was at first going to have single mastectomy and reconstruction. When I realized the only PS in my insurance network was a bitch, I was thrown into almost a state of dizziness in my mind about my plan.
I really didn't want to have one very large breast and none on the other side. I was in limbo until a pre-surgical MRI found a spot on the other breast. I had said that if they even SUSPECTED anything on the other, I would have it removed. So, staying true, to myself, I had the other removed (tumor was PASH, benign whose only treatment is surgery anyway).
I am glad that I am flat on both sides. I know I would not have liked to have one breast. Mine was very saggy. I am not saying this is for you, or that I don't think anyone else should think like me. We all have our different paths, different treatment choices.
However, I am not liking it when I hear surgeons that do not present removing the other breast as a treatment choice or trying to discourage it. I don't like surgeons talking someone out of it. I like my surgeon. She presented the information, then let me decide. AFTER, my surgery in a follow-up appointment, she told me that she agreed with my treatment choice as her favorite for me.
DO NOT let your doctors talk you out of it. Take in all the info you can THEN make your decision.
Maybe you should go to a mastectomy store in your area and look at the different prosthetic breasts in your size. Look at the different types, maybe hold it up to your body to see what it would look like. I really think that would be a good idea for you.
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Great idea to find a prosthetic store. There must be one here somewhere. Calling mr. google........
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Tough decision. I was a 36D and elected a UMX. I just wanted to keep as much of my natural "me" as I could. Plus I figured recovery from surgery would be that much easier. I do have mixed feelings about my remaining breast. Sometimes I wonder if I would have been better off just having both removed. But I don't regret just having one removed, either.
There's no good answer to this problem. Either option sucks, really. You just have to figure out whether UMX or BMX is right for you. It's such a personal choice.
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I had a unilateral mastectomy 5 years ago. I was headed for a lumpectomy but my surgeon decided that I did not have enough breast tissue to have a "good looking" result (I am a 36B).
Honestly (and I'm sorry if this is too 'graphic' for some), I am holding on to my good breast - hopefully forever. My breasts were always a very important part of intimacy for me. I am diligent about self breast exams (I check it every single morning in the shower) and with my mammos. I guess you could call me selfish - I am not willing to give up my other breast unless absolutely necessary! I wear a prothesis in my bra during the day and feel fine. The only time I feel "lopsided" is at night when I go braless.
I had posted in the forums a few weeks ago about possible reconstruction, but have decided no for now. My husband doesn't care. He says he loves "all" of me -- and truthfully, I don't think he was ever really a breast man to begin with, lol (he prefers other "parts)
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A friend of mine had similar thoughts to yours, Kim. She wanted to retain the sensation in her nipple on the good side so decided against having a BMX.
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I'm with KP, while I keep considering a DIEP, the knowledge that they would want to do something to my good side to balance keeps bothering me. Since I'm on arimidex, that is really the only erogenous zone I have left! I wear my foob to work and look ok, but just wear a padded sports bra at home or go flat.
Personally, I think maybe the male physicians who push reconstruction are doing it for their own comfort. Maybe they want to "fix" us if they can. I know some of us really do want recon and have it as soon as possible, with implants or whatever. I'm ok with not doing it, even at my age (mid-40s). If I was younger I think I might feel differently.
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This is such a personal issue, only you can decide. I was a 34 D 40 year old marathon runner when they told me I had IDC on the right side and it was too big for lumpectomy. I knew immediately that they both had to go for a variety of reasons. Medically I know that the conditions that led to me developing BC on the right side (genetics? environment? hormones? pollutants?) have all been exactly the same on the left side and the fact that it wasn't showing any tumors didn't mean that it wasn't just as cancer-prone as the right. I went through chemo before my surgery and that's enough to make sure you'll do anything in the world to help prevent future cancers. My surgeon did not want to take the healthy lefty, but I was adamant and I'm so glad.
Practically speaking, having both off is no more difficult than having one. You're still off work for 2 weeks, you still have stupid drains, you still have lifting restrictions for a while. They don't take nodes on the non-cancer side so the lymphedema risk is extremely low. The recovery is the same whether it's one or two gone. Do you need radiation? Because I can't imagine how awful it would have been to have the horrific armpit burns that radiation gave me and still have needed to be wearing a bra to support one floppy leftover D cup (or to go to work braless with one floppy leftover D cup...nobody wants to see that). Now that I'm all healed up I can run and ride horses with no bra and it's great. I have foobs (cute little B's!) that I wear under regular clothes and they're fine. I'm gearing up for reconstruction with Dr. Khouri in Miami who is going to build me two cute new boobs out of my butt fat. All in all I have never regretted the loss of my healthy left boob for one single second and it was absolutely the right decision for me. Good luck!
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i'm also an athlete and had a bmx and have ZERO REGRETS!
i love being braless.
i love being flat.
i love that i am symmetrical (nearly)....
i do miss my nipples. i wish i could have kept my nipples. but the onc. surgeon did not like that idea at all.
i was relatively well endowed (for an athlete)... and every thing is easier with out boobs. and... no more upper back pain... ever!
with unilateral, i'd worry about upper back pain, i think...
good luck - this is a tough decision. i was fortunate in that both oncs i worked with supported bmx and that i had chemo first, which gave me ample time before surgery. my first gut reaction was bmx, and that never wavered.
sorry you have to make this decision... it sucks.
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Well, the boob store is closed for the holiday this weekend. darn! My docs have finally agreed to do the bmx. I will miss my erogenous zone but I don't think it would help me get over the vision of just one. I have also decoded not to have reconstruction. I don't want to go through the surgeries and the long process of tissue expanders. Plus there's the fact that it may interfere with my future treatments.
Thank you all so much for having this open discussion with me. It has been so incredibly helpful. Please continue the discussion as I still want to hear more and believe this may help someone down the road. -
I too had several reasons for removing both breasts. One of them was that I absolutely hated being lopsided. Once the second one came off, my shoulder issues cleared and my lymph arm improved (I think because I no longer needed to wear a bra).
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hi frapp :-) i'm a 42DD and had a UMX with no recon and i wear no foob. it's weird that my stomach looks like it sticks out on the one side. i'm a larger person so people really don't notice (or say anything) when i go around 'one-sided' lol. i made the decision a long time ago that going around with one breast doesn't bother me and if it bothers others than that's their problem. i guess that sounds a little harsh but i've been so harsh on my self-judgement on my own body and after bc i learned to mostly accept the way that my body is. it is what it is. i didn't even wear scarves or a wig when i was bald. it's a very personal decision but i think it helps to try and learn to not care too much what others think. :-)
~M
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I'm hoping I don't have to worry about lymph problems. My doc says they are not going to be removing any since this is a palliative treatment. I just want the date to be over with. This waiting is nerve wracking.
I got a surprise package in the mail today. My sister ordered me 2 softtee camisoles and a shirt to wear after surgery. All three have pockets for drains and the shirt is smock style that buttons down the front. It was was a little weird seeing the puffballs that you stuff in the front of the camisoles. Well I guess I'm ready. -
Frapp what a lovely surprise for you! Yes the little puffballs are weird when you are first confronted with them, especially when you still have your breasts. When's your surgery again? You've probably said, but my memory isn't what it used to be lol
Trish
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My double is happening on 11/2. Just spent today getting my preop visit with anesthesia and instructions from the NP. What a long day, now for the 2 hr drive home during rush hour.
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It is going to be ok, just take in one day at a time, one hour at a time. The waiting for me was the worse. You will get though this and we are here to help you. Call if you need to. You will be in my thoughts and prayers.
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I can't tell you how happy I am that I pushed for the DMX. The pathology showed that an 11cm tumor was removed in the "bad" breast and....surprise....a 3cm tumor found in the "good one". If there had not been a tumor found in the "good" breast I would still be very happy with my decision to go with symmetry. I just got the drains out yesterday so now I'm on to the next step. Things are starting to feel tight as I heal but I am still doing the exercises and the doc has written a prescription for PT.
I have been to two public gatherings this week. The first one was with family at a birthday party. I decided to use the puff pillows that came with the camis. I have to say that I felt funny. I felt like I was hiding a secret and was worried about them moving into strange posotions the whole time. The other was to my local watering hole that I usually visit on a Friday after work for pizza. It's one of those places where " everyone knows your name". I decided to go there flat. Everyone knows about my surgery and I decided that I wasn't going to hide it. Yes, I got a couple of curious glances, but I think that is normal and to be expected. I felt much better putting it out there. I didn't like the first experience feeling like I was hiding some nasty secret. I'm sure the prosthesis will have its place, like when I want to dress up, but for the most part, I think I see myself going flat. -
I am thinking of a DIEP for the missing breast and a reduction for the other so that they both become, maybe a size A cup and I can go braless.
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Frapp so good to hear from you. Yes - you definitely made the right decision. Wow 3cm in the "good" breast, now it's gone. You are starting to heal, that tight feeling lasts a little while but gradually disappears. I never needed pain meds, it never got too bad, I'm hoping it's the same for you.
Good for you for going out "natural" lol
I'm hoping everything else goes well for you too.
Sending you big ((((hugs))))
Trish
xoxo
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