Sept 2012 chemo

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  • kidsandlabs
    kidsandlabs Member Posts: 138
    edited September 2012

    So the crazy ride continues, chemo starts Wednesday. Starting to get nervous.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited September 2012
    kidsandlabs- Sending you lots of HUGS and positive calming and healing prayers, thoughts and energy!!!!  You've come to a chemo thread where you will find lots of support and very strong and tough gals!!!  I'm sure you've already read that the days leading up to the first chemo are ones filled with mixed emotions, uncertainty of how one will react to the chemo and anxious moments of fear and just wanting the chemo to be done and over with.   The support you find here will help and encourage you to keep moving and pushing forward.  Wishing an easy time in the chair on Wednesday and minimal side effects!!!! 
  • bearcub
    bearcub Member Posts: 485
    edited September 2012

    Damiana I am having the same issue as you and JoJo with the hair. I read somewhere that mineral oil (topical) helps. My DH went and bought me some and I will use it tonight.



    My DH shaved my head last night and I am wondering if we should have shaved it right to the head and not had any stubble. If I do pull on the stubble hair it comes out so I am assuming it will all come out??...what did the rest of you do?...I have bloodwork in the morning and doctor appt...should be quicker to get ready without any hair, lol....



    Good luck to all the girls starting or doing the next rounds of therapy this week....may we all have minimal SE .

  • aliasismo
    aliasismo Member Posts: 16
    edited September 2012

    I also attended Look Good Feel Better today and enjoyed it very much. It took me getting cancer to learn how to apply makeup properly! I brought my wig with me and got lots of positive reinforcement about how I look in it.

    During the LGFB session my hair was firmly attached. Later in the evening I was with some friends, ran my fingers through my hair and noticed its now starting to come out. Ack! I thought I'd have another day! Amazingly, I'm not too freaked out about it. I'm mostly just fascinated by the process.

    Hang in there everybody, we'll all get through this!

  • bearcub
    bearcub Member Posts: 485
    edited September 2012

    Aliasismo it's sort of funny but I was somewhat relieved that I could get the hair loss step over with. A month ago my hair was at my waist and this actually feels kind of good....almost somewhat liberating.



    I look at it as my do over.....I may download that site that has all the hairstyles and pick out a new one I like.



    I have been using a sticky lint roller over my head today and it keeps picking up more and more of the tiny hairs, lol sort of surprised it works.

  • bearcub
    bearcub Member Posts: 485
    edited September 2012
    Amylovesbub.

    My chemo nurse said we get chemo even with a cold.

  • aic
    aic Member Posts: 417
    edited September 2012

    For those of you that went to look good feel better, did it last the whole two hours? I am having a hard time trying to get my schedule to jive, but I really want to go.

  • aic
    aic Member Posts: 417
    edited September 2012

    Cindi74, could you post that article if it is easy to do? Thanks!

  • bearcub
    bearcub Member Posts: 485
    edited September 2012

    Ours was 2 hours, first half was makeup and the last half was just talking about wigs and scarves...

  • Cindi74
    Cindi74 Member Posts: 363
    edited September 2012

    Bearcup, you are on the same chemo as me,  but a week ahead.  When did your hair start coming out, and is it all out now?
  • bearcub
    bearcub Member Posts: 485
    edited September 2012

    It started to come out around day 14 by day 16 it felt like it was snowing if I touched it lol...yesterday morning day 18 I had to wear a scarf because it was coming out much more. I enjoyed a bowl of ice cream and had some tears as he set up the salon....Then DH shaved it with our Costco shaver(I do his).we actually laughed our way through it, I thought he was enjoying it way to much..it was a strange moment as I never thought I would be letting my DH shave my head. He went to about an 1/8 inch and it looks patchy where my hair has come out more in different areas...my scalp is a bit sensitive but it feels much better than it has felt in a week...I put some mineral oil with a cotton ball over it and I find that quite soothing. Now that it is done I am okay with it, I promptly sent a picture via text to all my kids and the grand kids who text. I just thought it would be best to let them see and get over it!...They all thought I looked pretty cute as a baldy!

  • twinsplus1
    twinsplus1 Member Posts: 43
    edited September 2012

    First chemo was Thursday. Found my first bald spot at 11:30pm Monday night. Hoping it hangs in there til the weekend. I want to have a "Hair Today, Gone Tomorrow" party and let my friends help me buzz it off!

     Fingers crossed!

    Keep laughing!

  • twinsplus1
    twinsplus1 Member Posts: 43
    edited September 2012

    Who can take compazine AND lunesta and still be wide awake two hours later?  THIS GIRL!

     UGH.

  • rsdavid
    rsdavid Member Posts: 34
    edited September 2012

    Okay, Ladies - I have been told by the chemo nurse that my port should be for chemo, only.  That blood draws should be through my arm.  Is she wrong?  My blood draw is Thursday morning and I need some courage if I need to stand up to,yet another, nurse!

    I used to not care about needles until the procedure prior to the lumpectomy, done with no "soothing" meds, whatsoever.  For me, it was torture in the extreme.  The anesthesiologist had to spend extra time prior to the actual surgery helping me get calm, again.  It frustrates me that nurses (and docs) minimize our pain (nausea, fright, etc.) and we have to explain ourselves.  I spoke to the oncall oncologist Saturday regarding my bone pain from the taxotere - who proceeded to try to tell me I really didn't hurt that much!!??  I asked him if he had given birth and proceeded to tell him that until he did, he had no right to judge my pain!  Jeez.  thank goodness that guy is not my regular doc!

    Four Tops, Carole King, many favorites from my generation (a long-long time ago, now) encourage to call on our friends.  Thanks for the reminder!

    My facebook page has become fairly generic.  Those who know what I am going through don't want the reminder and those who don't know - I don't want them to know ---ever! 

    Thanks for being such a great support group. So much encouragement, here!! We can do this, ladies! Like I tell my younger daughter, "Watch me fight like a girl!". This is a battle that I shall win!!!

    Sherrie

  • patriciahurtado
    patriciahurtado Member Posts: 489
    edited September 2012

    Good morning my ladies........i just wanted to share that i went on to buy Melotin to get extra sleep even though i was sleep great i just had one bad night and i figure why not try it.....well it trigger for me to have hot flashes all night long , nasty presure on my head some chest pain and im still with some heart pain...i dranked so much much to try to get out my system and pee all night long it cause me back pain and my DH awake all night long.....i didnt really needed it but i though i can get some extra hours of sleep....so now they will go straight to the garbage....im glad that works for some people but for me it trigger nothing but pain.....

  • patriciahurtado
    patriciahurtado Member Posts: 489
    edited September 2012

    Good morning my ladies........i just wanted to share that i went on to buy Melotin to get extra sleep even though i was sleep great i just had one bad night and i figure why not try it.....well it trigger for me to have hot flashes all night long , nasty presure on my head some chest pain and im still with some heart pain...i dranked so much much to try to get out my system and pee all night long it cause me back pain and my DH awake all night long.....i didnt really needed it but i though i can get some extra hours of sleep....so now they will go straight to the garbage....im glad that works for some people but for me it trigger nothing but pain.....

  • patriciahurtado
    patriciahurtado Member Posts: 489
    edited September 2012

    new look ladies make it fun and itwill be pink today...should i do pink all the way..or just the design was not fan of the star it would liked it really small 

  • patriciahurtado
    patriciahurtado Member Posts: 489
    edited September 2012

    new look ladies make it fun and itwill be pink today...should i do pink all the way..or just the design was not fan of the star it would liked it really small 

  • jojo2373
    jojo2373 Member Posts: 662
    edited September 2012

    LOL - Patricia the designs are so cool!  I would just do them pink.  As we have learned from our sisters here, each person is different so what works for one, won't for another.  So sorry bout the Melatonin!  

    Sherrie - I am not a nurse, but I don't get why they can't draw blood from your port?  That is one of the things they told me before I got mine - all needle draws will be via your port now.  I would ask further why not.

    Bearcub, I will try the mineral oil.  I have been using some argon oil I had bought and that has helped too.

    Love to all and minimal SE's this week - please. 

  • Cindi74
    Cindi74 Member Posts: 363
    edited September 2012

    David, I had read on another website by a cancer suffering guy how he had the problem of "no port nurse available" and he insisted no blood draws unless port and he finally won.  Waited a long time--but won.  So I knew it was a problem and asked at the Cancer Institute where I go if they had sufficiently trained nurses.  OH Yes!

     So yesterday, when i got the argunent again and one nurse came by to say I had good veins,  I found my voice rising and quivering and, I'm sure my body fear mode in technicolor, and I started telling then about my two days and seven attempts during port and echocardigram, and that I had asked ahead BEFORE settling on that location.  She got that disgusted look on her face, and stalked away saying, "Well, you will have to wait."

    Secretly, I was very happy.  I had put the cream on at about 10 for an 11 apt and  they took me early and it was going too fast for the cream to take effect.  I also take a Tylanol before going in always by the way.  By the time a VERY compassionate port nurse got there, it was so numb, she could have been standing across the room when she took it.  Then she waited until the report came that all was well before disconnecting--al the tine telling me that she had the same needle aversion and understood.  When I talk with her again, I  will also point out that it's not just the aversion, it's the PAIN.  Hand in there and figure out who to talk with.

  • Cindi74
    Cindi74 Member Posts: 363
    edited September 2012

    Hey team,  Waiting in the Cancer Center Cheno waiting room I saw two suits come in with a tray of fancy muffins.  Was told they were drug reps buttering up the staff to get access to the doctors.  I'm thinking, "What reasonably priced treat could I take in to make the staff see me as a little different than a baby old woman.  I don't cook, but I guess at some time on chemo day I could take in a tray of brownies, but so many are on diets that I hate to push sweets.  I do feel for the staffs.  It's always frustrating and easy to burn out dealing with sick, complaining people in a job where making a mistake could cost a life.  I do feel for them.  I don't think the pay of the lower, just starting ones is that great either.  But OK,  I feel for me too.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited September 2012

    aic- Here is a link to a similar newspaper article about the the new study of categorizing breast cancer.

    http://www.chron.com/news/article/New-breast-cancer-clues-found-in-gene-analysis-3887887.php

    Here is the link for the NY times article that Cindi was referring to:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/24/health/study-finds-variations-of-breast-cancer.html?_r=0

    rsdavid & Cindi74--You go girls!!!!!!  I'm glad you spoke up for yourselve to the on call onco and to the nurses because I'm sure it wasn't easy to do.  You are your own best advocate here and know your pain tolerance better than anyone else.  I still have blood draws before my Herceptin infusions.  The last one required me to fast ( no food/drink after midnight).  The infusion nurse tried to draw blood from my port but because I hadn't taken in enough fluids, it was hard to get the blood draw.  She was very apologetic that she would have to take from my arm and even more so when I told her that she would probably have to take it from one of hand veins.  I told her it was okay and I'd blood taken from there before.  After the infusion was over and she was flushing the port, she checked to see how the blood flow from the port was.  She said it was fine and was better since I had been able to drink fluids after the initial blood draw.  It is seems weird to me that your infusion nurse didn't want to draw blood from there, especially when one of an onco's selling points about getting a port is that the blood draws can be taken from there. 

  • allurbaddayswillend
    allurbaddayswillend Member Posts: 355
    edited September 2012

    I have this song on repeat to help me this AM:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kblj3AEjykM

    (Start panicking, turn into a mannequin
    Take a breath now, ahh, begin again...
    You start freaking out
    Wishing you were peaking out
    Hold it together now
    Instead of leaking out
    Turn your smile on
    Turn your smile up bright)

    Countdown to BGC, T-minus 4 hours - Taxol #4.
  • aliasismo
    aliasismo Member Posts: 16
    edited September 2012

    aic: my Look Good Feel Better session also went the full two hours, first half makeup second half wigs/scarves, etc. Even if you have to miss some of it I would recommend going. A lady in my group came late, but one of the presenters caught her up with everyone else.

    Patricia: your designs are awesome! Way to rock the new look!

    Y'all are amazing. I wish I could remember who said what by the time I get to the reply box so that I could respond to everyone directly!

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited September 2012
    aliasismo- I'm glad that I am not the only one who was fascinated with the hair loss process.  I opted just to cut my hair boy cut short short.  I had waist length hair in February 2012 at the time of my lumpectomy and a short bob at the time of my April 2012 mastectomy.  I had a very short boy cut the beginning of May at my 2nd chemo round.  I never buzzed or cut after that.  I had decided enough haircuts for that period of time was enough plus I just wanted to see if all of my hair would really fall out.  My hair has been a personal science experiment for me.  Interestingly enough, all of my pre-chemo hair did not fall out and what remained was mostly along my hairline.  I had wispy bangs and some back nape hair.  Now my post-chemo hair is blossoming and most of that pre-chemo hair that hung in there for such a long time is slowly falling out.  FYI:  Those lint rollers are great for getting hair off of you, your clothes and everywhere else!!!!
  • patriciahurtado
    patriciahurtado Member Posts: 489
    edited September 2012

    i though it would be nice that their options for the new look for everyone and if you are bald just get pretty supportive fake tattoos with ou ribbon ladies....feeling much better...

  • Cindi74
    Cindi74 Member Posts: 363
    edited September 2012
    These are the Members of the Exclusive September Club No One Wants to JOIN.
    If I've left you off, please let me know.

    7312012------- M 47
    301724------- Vermont
    Aic------- 1 C. 35
    Aliasismo------- radiologist 56
    Allurbaddayswillend------- M, 1 C. 48
    Amy4978------- Howard City, MI 34
    AmylovesBubby
    Bearcub------- Prince George, British Columbia M., 3 C. 8 G radiologist 55
    Butterfly14------- Self Clearwater, FL 3 C. 44
    Cgesq------- New Jersey radiologist 2 C, 50
    Cherioo------- Florida 4 C. 46
    Cindi74------- Apopka, Florida radiologist 3 C 6 SC. 21GC M 75
    Damiana9------- Burleson, Texas
    DonnaDo8------- Self 2 C. 42
    Englishrose75------- Self Diagnosed Milton Keynes United Kingdom 2 C. 37
    Ergirl
    EvaNJ
    Firestorm531------- 1 C. Texas 41
    florbo------- Dallas, Texas
    Foreverchanged------- 72612 Self Chelsea, Quebec 3 C. 38
    Frannygirl------- Louisiana
    Internutz1------- Van Alstyne, TX USA
    JodiRocksthePink------- M, 2 C. 39
    Joemommy------- Portland, Oregon 1 C. 46
    Jojo2373------- Maryland Self.....5C. 50
    Justegan------- Wolcott/Kingston Dr. Diagnose, 23
    KelleyB

    Kidsandlabs
    Kstillie
    Laura_g
    Lokimax2------- Siler City, NC
    Mariposa123------- Bay Area, Californiz 2 C. 44
    Melrosemelrose------- (visitor from April) Houston, Texas
    Mindy703------- M, 3 C 41
    Momto5children
    Movinonmom
    Mycancerjourney------- Illinois
    Neta69
    Nickythebean
    PatriciaHurtado------- Miami, FL
    RSDavid------- 3 C. 4G. 58
    Runnergirl71------- Fort Collins, Colorado
    SandeeAR------- Conway, AR
    Sheerbab Dallas------- , Texas Self Diagnosed M, NO C, 43
    Sjayne2u Ohio
    Sparkysbrat------- East Tennessee Mountains
    SugarlandlDC------- Houston 3 C. 43
    Tara88
    Terri07-11
    Timbek2-------Peoria, IL.,  radiologist, 3 C. 40
    Toastiecat
    Twinsplus1        3 C. 44
    Usmcblondie 25
    Waitingforthenextstep
    Whenlifegivesyou lemons------- Minneapolis M radiologist 46
    Wendy49------- Michigan 2C M self 49

    That's 55. So many enduring together.
    Appointment now for reunion on this website in five years!
    Code: M=Married, C=children, GC= grandchildren, SC= Step Children "self" =self-diagnosed, radiologist=how diagnosed

  • 7312012
    7312012 Member Posts: 14
    edited September 2012

    Cocobean,

    I was very sick last week after my first round of chemo on September 17. I was in bed for three days very nauseated and would vomit every evening.  I called the oncologist's office yesterday and spoke with my doctor's nurse. I told her how sick I was and she said that there is another route they can take with the anti-nausea meds. She didn't give me specifics, but she said that the other drug needs to be approved by my insurance company, but it works well for people who repond like I did. I also have a "nurse advocate" through my insurance company; it is part of my benefits. She and I spoke yesterday also and she said that if the nurse can give me a bag of fluids the day I return for my Neulasta shot that the fluids may help me too.

    So, I would let your oncologist know how bad you feel and see what options are available to you. The good news is that there ARE options!

    Here are some practical things that helped me:

    - sip liquids and don't take too much in at one time

    - try tiny bites of a saltine cracker

    - drink ginger ale - this helped me a lot, but remember to take tiny sips

    - fritos - yes, fritos! A friend's bc surviving sister suggested fritos. I didn't try them until I was past the worst nausea, so I would suggest exercising caution, but they have helped me overcome the nausea that creeps up once in awhile. The gal who suggested it actually ate her fritos with bean dip. I'm not that bold...

    I hope this helps and that you are feeling better today. It's a real drag, I know!

  • bearcub
    bearcub Member Posts: 485
    edited September 2012

    Cindi I hope you got some sleep last night, lol you were up late last night since you are in Florida.....



    Patricia your hair is beautiful, love the detail and the earrings. Melatonin works great for me no problems but I won't take it during chemo as it wasn't approved by my chemo pharmacist. My DH though has tried it and he gets terrible headaches from it and won't use it at all. Like JoJo says all this stuff doesn't work for everyone.



    I am off to get ready for bloodwork, fingers crossed my WBC is good to go for tomorrow!





  • allurbaddayswillend
    allurbaddayswillend Member Posts: 355
    edited September 2012
    "- fritos - yes, fritos!" This may seem weird but I did the same thing. During AC, I ate some small amounts of fritos - the original corn chips - at times. Something about the salt, the crunch, a bit of carbs. I can't do saltines so I think they may have served a similar purpose for me.

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