Alternative Treatment

oh grow up!!  I've had a very sore uncomfortable large place on my breast for almost 2 years.  I wake up very often in a lot of pain & awful sensations.  If it's not a form of inflamatory breast disease what then is it?

sorry about snapping at you like that:  it's been a long & frustrating day.  according to what I've read what you say isn't always true.

but I'd dlike to talk about dogs.  on the IBC fora one woman said the breast cancer dogs get is the same as that of humans.  we had 2 dogs who died of it:  a mother & son.  the mother had fabulous sergery but it had apparently already spread.  the son died after a second surgery, disn't wake u from the anaesthetic. (not the same surgeon).  I will miss them the rest of my life.  one must ask do we get it from our dogs.  I don't think so.  I think humans get it from pharmaeseudical estrogens & dogs from pharmaeseudical insectacides (AKA "pet meds.  flea & tick stuff.  the colars kill & the stuff you put on their shoulders goes right to the nervous system 

Wayne Dyer posted something this week on his Facebook page that said:

Think

T-is it true?

H-is it helpful?

I-is it inspiring?

N-is it necessary?

K-is it kind?

I thought that was a really sweet reminder.  Alternative is alternative, and we are all at different levels of alternative exploration.  It's like a buffet line (not that I do too many buffets as a vegan!).  If you see something you don't like, move onto the next thing.  We've been down this road before in this thread and I don't think it helps any of us that are reading and/or writing. Let's keep our energy positive so it will benefit us all. 

Peace to all and to all a good night :-)

they're not abscesses, I was a heroin addict I know from that  diagnosis of these troubles are invasive & potentially make infections.  that doesn't seem sensible to me

the worst thing about the internet is someone or a group attempting to get another to stop posting or resign from the forum for reasons of they don't _like" them.  this happened, though not to me son the astrology forum when I was first online.  over vegetarianism.  someone said so & so was arrogant with her chdoice & the arrogant one took offense (of course vegetarians who didn't grow up that way are indeed arrogant, it's very difficult to become done.  it's been my experience that the person goading the other is the one to be temporarily at least locked out.  it seems to me that the onternet is about information not personality.  isn't it called the sdinformation superhighway?

as for everyone being very sick, I think a great number are in the ned stage or cured & not sick at all 

Abigail,

I don't know if anyone is trying to get you to resign but I do think you need to consider the other side of your coin. This is a breast cancer forum and regardless of where we are in the bc journey, we have all been diagnosed with bc. Surely you can understand why it would bother some to have someone without a dx saying she has bc. I will continue to try to understand your position but please try to understand the position of others. The reality is that until you are dx you may not have bc at all. As to what it might be? We don't know, that's why we go to doctors.

Caryn

Abigail, you say:

as for everyone being very sick, I think a great number are in the ned stage or cured & not sick at all

I wish you could understand how this statement appears. Many people who are "NED" are terminally ill sisters who must nonetheless continue with treatment for the rest of their lives. NED is remission.

Also, there is no cure for BC.

Finally, you are not the only one dealing with additional health problems or who has a history of health problems.

And graced, I appreciate your efforts, but I don't think it is about alternative treatment either.

It is about someone who appears to be self-diagnosing - and apparently diagnosing others and saying they are cured and appears to ignore the concerns of other posters.

Abigail, I invite you to take a quiet look at the stage IV threads, where many are NED and read about how many can no longer work, have suffered permanent health complications from the cancer or the treatment and have only more treatment to look forward to. If they were to stop conventional treatment, they would likely be ill from pain, organ failure and perhaps quickly die. I do hope that not many people are reading this thread as they would be extremely offended by your "diagnosis" of them, which can only be attributed to lack of knowledge.

I am sorry that you cannot or will not see how your remarks affect other people, who have feelings too. You are not the only person here. Post away if you must - but don't be surprised if people react. This stage belongs to all of us, and we all count.

As for what is wrong with your breast - I have no idea, but if it were IBC, you would likely be either dead or incapacitated by now. IBC is a very fast-growing cancer. If you really want to know what is going on --and I wonder if you do-- then get an x-ray of the area. There may be something that can be fixed.

Caryn, I have no doubts.

x raya cause cancer;  even 1.  I only respond to what I see here, ned I understood meant no evidence of diease, to me that means well.  if I;m mystaken I have now been corrected.

already out most valuable, poster has decided not to continue to post here because of what she saw as bullying.  out naturopathic nurse, joy.  what important information might we be losing because she's no longer helping us here.

abcesses suporate, IBC does as well, & this inflamation did a bit a year ago, joy helped so much then & the places eventually healed.  I would hope they won't again.  as for my being very sick or dead with what I expect these places on my body are, that apparently is old information.

I will call it inflamed breast cyst.  though hyears ago I heard cancer called the purplish excressence, & that is certgainly accurate as far as I can see 

but I've only been responding to posts about my situation, that no longer interests me.  alternative treatments to our trouble does, continues to

Joy was a sweet woman but made a choice to stop posting. She started a course on nursing but did not finish. She is not a naturopathic nurse. NED is for most a temporary state. No evidence of disease, at this time.

Caryn

Athena, lol!

Abigail, to be blunt, if you actually had untreated IBC for as long as you claim, you'd be dead by now.  Those survival stats you throw around are ONLY for those who have been diagnosed and treated.  You have been neither.  Therefore, they are meaningless to your situation.

"Our trouble"???  Sorry, I doubt anyone here can relate to self-diagnosing a terminal illness.

You've put yourself on an island...don't blame us...

Ok Abby. No group hugs for you, actually I don't like them either. But your attention seeking behaviour indicates that you either want something from the people who post here, or that you have something you want to give. Which is it?

Hi Abigail,

I'm sorry you have to put up with the sniping here. You are very kind and I appreciate your candor and your ongoing journey. If people come all the way over here to snipe it's more about their insecurities. It has nothing to do with you so I would continue to ignore them and live your life.

As a fact check to my fellow posters: There are many documented cases of people who have ignored their breast cancers. My grandmother was one of them. Apparently the cancer was either slow-growing or no-growing. The doctors respected her choices not to have surgery and she died 15 years later of a stroke in a nursing home.

Anyway, friends, let's practice kindness...peace to all who have behind the scene demons in their lives.

Natty, there's a big difference between your grandmother and abigail. Apparently your grandmother had a diagnosis of breast cancer. abigail does not, but pretends she has bc. Without a medical diagnosis, she has no way of knowing.