Sept 2012 chemo
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Jojo u are so right ...i am scare and angry...until some of us can get through our first treatment then i think that will go away......i will get me results from my PET scan tomorrow so FINALLY get this beast off me with chemo...im just so ready to fight and ready for whatever....staying positive is very important!!!!!!!!!!
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Eva welcome...to the strongest september 2012 sisters we are going to make it and we are strong....you have only 3 more to go!!!! i havent even started...i only get 4 rounds of chemo every 3 weeks so i believe i start 19 ....no more SE....hugs
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Hi everyone,
It is 2:30 am, PST - and I completely can't sleep. Could be the anticipation for tomorrow's first treatment. Thanks Melrosemelrose for all of the information! Sherrie, your journey is looking a lot like mine. I also had the port put in on Thursday and will start tomorrow. My port is a bruised hot mess- so I am not sure if they will be able to use it either. I am on Taxotere and Carboplatin (I thought it was going to be Cytoxan, but just found out today that it isn't) I will also be taking Trastuzmab and getting the neulasta shot the following day.
I totally get angry and sad too. Right now, I am feeling more anxious to get started. I am trying to hold a mindset around chemotherapy as healing- and that this medicine has to be powerful to help me stick around to see my little ones grow up. It is all totally scary - but I know that I will be okay. We will all fight this thing and come out the other side knowing so much more about ourselves than we ever imagined. Right now, I just wish I could go to sleep!
Sending lots of healing energy to everyone:-)
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The port makes me nervous from what I am reading here, they are putting my port in on the 24 and plan on using it the next day. I asked the MO if that was enough time to heal and was told no problem, we do it all the time.
Also, anyone with node biopsy done having problem with underarm feeling like a rock and range of motion issues? Surgeon said that was normal, just drives me crazy.
Good luck to all.
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Hello everyone--just thought I'd stop in and say hello! Going for my 3rd round of FEC tomorrow..then on to 3 rounds of Taxotere. Just as I've got used to feeling mostly normal again, dreading going back to feeling crummy again. Still, after tomorrow, I'll be able to think that I'm half way through. Yay! I had really bad cases of oral thrush after the first two FEC, despite all the prescription meds, mouthwashes, constant toothbrushing etc. Has anyone else had this problem? Does sucking ice during the treatment work?
All good wishes to everyone else out there going through this journey.
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Amyloves - happy your back with us.
I did figure out something regarding my own SE's - since I was sick after the first treatment I assumed my aches/pains were due to the fever I had. WRONG - its the neulasta shot I thought I didn't have any problems with. My back, hips and legs were killing me yesterday, better today.
Did anyone's skin feel sore? Overall my whole body was sore to the touch.
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Hi JoJo2373... Yes I was/is extremely achy all a over especially in my lower body. Now my skin is very sore to the touch. I am taking the Claritin everyday but not sure if it's doing anything.
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EnglishRose - I had what was supposed to be a sentinel node biopsy on both sides and mine happened to be grouped so they took a lot more nodes than originally anticipated. After the surgery I had range of motion issues for about three weeks on my right side but I tried to do the 'fingers walking up the wall' exercise they told me to do as much as possible. I also had issues with my nerves under my right arm - it was like they were on fire....it cleared up about the time I had my BMX done and it came right back and lasted for about two weeks - just one day all issues were gone....I am sure it was not like that but it seemed like it.
Jojo - my entire chest is sore to the touch, even places I feel don't have feeling but I just assumed that it was the tissue expanders. Tomorrow is treatment 2 so I am sure things will change again.
Tomorrow is a big unknown for treatment 2....two different reports show different results on my ER/PR/HER but more likely I am tripple negative. Another very confusing area for me so if anyone has any insight on tripple negative I would really appreciate it because I don't know if this is another area I should be concerned about or not. I also get the results back from some blood work that was done to know if I need the PET scans and all that comes with those. For some reason my doctor doesn't order those unless the blood work shows there is an issue. Every time I think I have an understanding of what is going on with my situation something else comes along and confuses the process.....
And the hair - I think tonight will have to be the night, day 14. I sure was hoping to hold off until after tomorrow's treatment but that may not be the case because the blizzard is bad.
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Sherbab--thanks for your response about the underarm issues. I had my surgery in July and had the normal issues for a few weeks afterwards and then everything was fine until about a week ago when the scar line became a bit bumpy in places with a more prominent area towards one end. The nurse said today that she thought it was scar tissue but they will keep an eye on it and the onc will look at it when I see him next week.
My skin has felt really sore and sensitive for a few days after each chomo treatment too.
I started losing my hair really badly at around day 16. I'd already got it cut really short, about an inch long, and had started wearing my wig (which I love, similar but much nicer than my real hairstyle!). When it started falling out alot and clogged the shower drain, my husband just gave me a buzz cut all over. It was a really surreal experience for both of us!
Regarding triple negative, I am ER/PR/Her2 negative and stupidly maybe I read everything I could on the Internet as soon as I was diagnosed and got myself scared senseless. Most of the articles written on this--and there are many--paint a really gloomy picture for us TNBCers. But, even though it's true that the survival stats over the first five years tend to be lower for TNBC, after that liklihood of recurrence is the same or less than ER/PR+ cancers. And even though the overall outcomes might not be as good as hormonal receptive positive BC, the stats are still generally pretty good if you look at it in a glass half full type of way. My doctor told me that tumour size and number of lymph nodes involved is still really important for TNBC, so if you do find out this is what you have, you'd have good reason to feel hopeful! I've found the forums on this site to be helpful on the subject, as well as the "positives about negative" blog.
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@amy4978 Much love to you too girlie. Keep that positive attitude. It will go a long way in your healing. I asked just once to my hubby, why me? He said because I was the strongest. I'm going with that. I really do think you will feel better when the hair situation is behind you. Of course you will miss your hair, but once it's gone you can start healing from that and get on to the next hurdle. I always say "How do you eat an elephant...one bite at a time". That's what we have to do too. Hang in there mama. Good luck tomorrow. I just had my 3rd AC today so we will be riding the misery train together for the next couple of days.
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@sherbad Your diagnosis sounds very similar to mine. stage 1 triple negative. I agree with @EnglishRose. Don't read the stuff on the Internet about triple negative. What she said was true. Statistically even though it tends to be more aggressive and more likely to come back my doc said that's more likely to happen in later stages. In early stages (stage 1 and 2) my MO says that this is curable...yes I said curable. And my MO (you can google him Dr. Nicholas Robert Fairfax VA) is rated by US News and World Report as top 1% in the country, so I believe him. He said early detection is the key, but even if it's later stages triple negative cancers actually respond better than hormone receptive cancers to chemo and again after 5 years we are all the same. All reasons in my opinion to be positive about our negative. Good luck sweetheart.
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@englishrose My nurse gives me Popsicles as I take the Adriamycin. I haven't had any mouth sores yet after 2 rounds. Just had 3rd round today so we will see.
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To all those who recently had ports put in and are starting chemo:
Ask you MO for a prescription for numbing creme (i think its called emla, but its a lidocaine based creme--they will know what you are asking for.) You put it on between a half an hour and an hour or so before the port is used. If you can't get the prescription filled before you have your first infusion, ask the nurses at the infusion center to find some and use it on you. Mine had some in stock and then ask them to delay using the port till it takes effect. My infusion center also used a freezing spray on the area and the initial stick wasn't bad at all (and I'm a huge chicken when it comes to needles.) I would also advise not looking when they insert it!!Keep in mind that they can also draw your blood from the port, so having a port will save you all those annoying blood sticks. Just ask them to coordinate the blood work with the days you have your infusions!
Be careful applying the creme. You can't use your hands, because your fingers will become numb! Glop some on some plastic wrap and then simply stick the plastic wrap onto the port area. It will stay on, and will keep the area clean till you get to the infusion center.
This really works!
I would also advise taking some form of anti anxiety medication (like adivan or xanax) before you go. It really takes the edge off a very stressful situation. When I told the infusion nurse that I had taken xanax, she said, "candidly, I wish all our patients would take some! If ever somebody had a right to be anxious, its a cancer patient undergoing chemo! That's what the medication is there for!!!
Tomorrow, I go for my 2nd infusion---this time herceptin only.
Good luck to all those starting!
Cheryl
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I got my neulasta shot approved to be done at home! I am so happy I do not have to drive 80 miles the day after chemo. No to happy about the shot but at least I can remain in the comfort of my home. Def not scared of needles so wish my hubby luck cause he will be giving it to me!
Btw for those of you that have a huge copay for the shot there are many places who offer grants to cover your part. My shot was 4500.00 and I would of had to pay 900 out of pocket but I have been approved for a grant to pay for 5000.00 worth.
Day 13 still have hair...but im guessing this next round is gonna blow it clean off my head lol
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I asked my nurse about icing head and nails. Here was her take. She felt like it would be best to let the chemo go everywhere. Felt it was counterintuitive to have a systematic treatment and not let it go everywhere cancer cells could go just to save our hair and nails. She was an oncology nurse with 20 plus years experience. Her reasoning made sense to me. She said that all of those SE are temporary so while I know they can be traumatic, it's not forever. Of course everyone needs to make the decision that makes the most sense to them. Good luck to you all. :-)
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Amy,
I am day 14 and my hair started to fall out this morning. Someone else mentioned it is like a blizzard, lol.......
I just wanted to know if you have a choice to take the neulasta shot? In Canada it is not automatic, I just think you girls all go through so much bone pain and aches taking this shot and meds to take the pain away, It seems to add to the misery of chemo.
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Donna I heard the same thing cancer cells can go in any cells so you want to hit them all. No icing of the nails or cold caps for me. I can regrow nails and hair!
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Hi Ladies, Day 4 after 2nd TC and feeling really achy and sore today. More so than last time.
Bearcub, Im also in Canada and I dont have insurance but opted to pay for the Neulasta as I know I always catch everything and I have young kids (both came home from school w colds the other day) and I wanted to give myself the best chance to make it through the treatments on time.
I feel so sad and anxious today. Trying to figure out how I move forward mentally from here. Hope you are all hanging in there. -
EnglishRose & Donna - thank you for the positive information. Donna we are definitely close and I am also electing the DIEP Flap but thought it would be in October before we started down this path! I do feel better seeing what your MO told you and I will take it to heart! I am dreading and looking forward to tomorrow all at the same time!
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Hello ladies, I go for my first chemo on Thursday and am so glad I found this group. I have so many of the same worries. I got my port this past Friday and am kinda sore but it wasn't bad.I am worried about it being healed enough for chemo to start. I can't even take the tape off till right before my chemo, so I can't even see what it looks like. I have 4 AC then 4 T. Very worried about the hair so I cut a few inches last week and will do a few more next week.
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Donna, thats my feeling exactly bout icing and cold caps. I want every cell zapped!
Amy - tell me more about the grants? I have copays and a max out of pocket to cover so any help that is out there I would love to know about.
Finally feel like eating! -
Another bit of info about neulasta:
I had a the shot last Thurs for the first time. On Sat, I felt like I had a bad case of the flu. Every bone ached, joint hurt and my head was splitting. Thankfully, that only lasted about 24 hrs, but it was not a pleasant 24 hrs. Since then, I have had occasional bone/joint pain, but at least my head hasn't been hurting.
Fast forward to today. I had an appt with my MO and mentioned my bad reaction. He said that I could try one more shot after my next big treatment (according to him, sometimes people react poorly the first time, but then don't have such severe reactions the next) but that if I did have bad SEs, I could opt to get a series of 5 neupagen shots, spaced over 5 days, instead of the neulasta. Apparently, neupagen was the precursor drug to neulasta, which did the same thing (boosted white blood cell production), but without most of the flu-like SEs.
For those with major copays on the neulasta, or to those who get bad SEs, ask about the neupagen. It might be less expensive, and you will spare yourselves the SEs.
Good luck!
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Mariposa - I hope you got through today with nothing any worse than tired. I have pre-emptively taken the anti-nausea meds once i got home, so the nausea would not be an issue. The nap felt good and I have tried to only eat those bland foods that - if necessary - won't be too bad coming back up.
Some sort of mistake at the lab and my Cytoxan didn't show up - so I go back for it tomorrow. My friend is going with me. The one advantage is the IV anti-nausea, again.
My port is still quite swollen and they were able to use it. They didn't have any lidocaine, so we applied ice for 15 minutes. It didn't hurt as badly as someone hunting for a vein in my arm. They did call in a script for the cream that I will put on before I leave in the morning!! (After the pre-lumpectomy needles, I am no longer brave!)
I had very little sleep last night due to the steroids and lots (lots!) of nervousness. Probably little sleep, tonight for the same reasons... and I do think my lower GI may keep me up, too. Thank goodness for the "shopping list" - I have lots of meds available to help with side effects.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed to the knowledge base, here. I found that my questions were well-received and I feel much more knowledgable about what is going on and what to expect.
Sherrie
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Hi everyone, I know i posted earlier without proper introduction but please add me to this group. I have finished my AC and today I completed 3 of 12 Taxol.
AmylovesBubby, I stopped posting around here back in July kind of for the same reason. Those 6 days after AC are just.horryifyingly.awful. and you can't imagine going through any more of them. ever. I thought for sure I'd quit. Then I'd bounce back in the next two weeks and while sometimes crying before the next visit to the BGC, I still did it. I gotta go now but I'll swing back in tomorrow. Has you MO offered an anti-depressant?
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Neta, I see why you elected to take the shot...my granddaughter who started kindergarten this year already has a cold. Which province are you in?
Sjaine welcome to the sept group, you will find a lot of support and answers here.
Amy what a relief to get the neulasta shot for home....80 miles would be awful to drive for it.
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Good evening sistersssssssssss......i know that it has be a long ride for some of you but hang in there remember that we are putting up a tough fight......take all medications and stay positive please....we all need each other ...WE CAN DO IT!!!
Today i went to see my onco and got my PET result back..YES.....negative...im so happy for now......it might sound crazy but that has been the greatest news i have heard since my diagnost....i start chemo tomorrow ....my port has healed. no and i suck i forgot to ask for "ELMA" .........i have my "bag" ready for my chemoland....so just to make sure that i have what i need please.....ladiesss check if im missing anything i start my first treatment tomorrow at 9:15 am....My onco said i will start with herceptin double doese follow by chemo???? and i will be having FEC...compazine for mild nausea and zofren for moderate nausea and dexamethasone....i will be taking my blanked and my hubby and some books..besides my labtop and of course cant forget and leave behind my posivite attitude ...i now that i havent started my treatment but the only thing that i keep on thinking and saying ... "you nasty cancer you have started this and i will make sure i ended!!! i am soldier.... a warrior... and i am gonna put up a fight pain or no pain i will win......and i will survive......
so SISTERS i will pray for no SE for everyone.....i love you guys!!!!!
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When you usually get the naulasta shot??? how many dyas after chemo........
Amy...we will be on the BGC tomorrow at 9 am
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Patricia, you are going to do great tomorrow. I am so happy to hear your results on PET scan . I go for my 2 nd round Thursday and I am ready to kick cancer's but .
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We get the shot 24hrs after chemo
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@sherbad Just hang on sweetheart. We'll take it one day at a time. Unfortunately I was in the 2% that the DIEP failed. Couldn't get the blood to flow through my tissues. That's why I have tissue expanders in. It will be big ole Beverly Hills implants for me. I did get the tummy tuck though...Love, love, love that. So worth the try. I'm sure you will be in the 98% that will work just fine. I did not find the recovery from the DIEP flap/TE and tummy tuck to be bad at all. Two leeks post surgery I was dancing at my parents 50thvanniversary party. We are gonna be just fine mama. Let me know how it goes tomorrow. You will be in my thoughts.
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