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  • Nkb
    Nkb Member Posts: 1,436
    edited September 2012

    Lady-I put the aloe Vera or calendula right after therapy before I get dressed. I'm happy to have the weekend off also.

    My RO says it unlikely I will get an infection or severe problems, so I am holding onto that thought.

    I am also stretching my chest.

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited September 2012

    Funny to start reading on a new thread but seeing lots of old "friends"! I am still waiting for pathology but as usual, am jumping ahead. I can't imagine not having radiation since I had a lumpectomy so I figure I will be in the Fall Rads for sure. Aruba, I was interested in what you said about the Canadian trial and even though you are not in the short arm, it should be interesting for everyone in the future. I had to wait several weeks for my surgery and did a lot of reading. Dr. Susan Love writes a fair bit about the newer partial breast radiation. I have a friend in the US who had one of the 3 types so only 5 treatment in a week but hers was caught early on a mammogram. I asked a friend who is a head oncologist in a Nova Scotia hospital about it since it is only in clinical studies in Vancouver and a trial on Vancouver Island. He said I was not a good candidate because I have IDC and also DCIS so that was that but I hope for those in the future that is becomes an option.

    I still have steri strips on so I guess I need to wait awhile for the cream but will be doing it for sure! Can't wait to get those pathology reports!

    CoolMarian 

  • Cottontail
    Cottontail Member Posts: 374
    edited February 2013

    If my steri-strips are starting to peel off (on their own) from one incision, is it ok for me to encourage them to come off the other incisions?  They're loosening up where my port was removed, but still holding on for dear life on my other two incisions.  I'd like to take them off my lx site so I can start moisturizing my breast.  I'll leave the one in my axilla a few days longer, I think.

    I'm scheduled for my simulation this coming Thursday.  I suspect my start date might be pushed back due to the infection where my drain was, plus I had the damn drain in a week longer than expected.  I hope they will at least do the simulation so I'll be ready to start when I'm healed up enough. 

  • Junif
    Junif Member Posts: 100
    edited September 2012

    Does anyone have any experience with RADX OTC Skin Therapy--it has 2% Lidocaine for pain and there is a RADX moisturizer.  It's at this website:

    http://www.lotstolivefor.com/category/radiationburns

    Cottontail--I just peeled my last strip off yesterday.  The surgeon said whenever they start to peel to take them off.  I tested the corners a few times in the past but they were still stuck on.  Yesterday in the shower I noticed that it was easily coming off.

    To those who have already started RADS, what was the simulation like..go on Wednesday for that.

  • Cottontail
    Cottontail Member Posts: 374
    edited February 2013

    Yeah, I'm definitely going to take the loose strips off in the shower tonight.  I'm just not sure if I can go ahead and take off the strips over the other incisions if they're not loose yet?

  • jpmomof3
    jpmomof3 Member Posts: 643
    edited September 2012

    Cottontail, if they have been on two weeks or longer just take them off.



    The simulation, they scan you and mark where the laser crosses n your chest. Then on the second one the double check everything and at my center they give tattoos. The third one they just double checked everything. They drew all over my chest in sharpie on the second two simulations. They also make a mold for you to lie in on the first simulation so that they get you into the same position each time. You have to lie there with your chest bared but who hasn't gotten used to that by now. They give me a warm blanky to cover up the rest of me though.

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited September 2012

    Mine were peeling off today after my bath and I carefully peeled them right off. Great looking incisions, both small though I have numbness in areas that my surgeon warned me might be the case. I have to say I tentatively touch them both but happy about how normal I look. So far; don't ever want to speak too soon.

    Marian 

  • Cottontail
    Cottontail Member Posts: 374
    edited February 2013

    I took the strips off two of the incisions this evening. The port removal incision looks great, it already has that faded pink scar tissue look to most of it. The lx incision isn't quite as nice, the incision line is red and is a bit wide at one small spot. Overall it looks good, though. I started loosening the corners of the strip in my axilla, but am not as comfortable pulling that one off yet. I'll work on it gently in the shower in the next few days.



    Anyway, now the strips are off my breast I can start moisturizing it. I already put moisturizer of one sort or another on my hands, feet, and forearms most nights, so it should be easy to just do my breasts at the same time. (Usually I use First Aid Beauty Ultra Repair Cream, but when I'm feeling fancy I'll use a Lush massage bar.)

  • christina0001
    christina0001 Member Posts: 1,491
    edited September 2012

    Have to call on Monday to get an appointment for rads set up. Ugh I am dreading it...

  • jpmomof3
    jpmomof3 Member Posts: 643
    edited September 2012

    Good luck christina, I dreaded rads too but it is good just to get it done.  The thought of what it is doing to me is rather unpleasant but we are all doing this to kill cancer.  So die cancer die.  

    Glad the incisions dont look too bad cottontail and marian, heal fast! 

  • SherBear1280
    SherBear1280 Member Posts: 4
    edited September 2012

    Hi, Ladies!  This is my first time posting...lurking for awhile, soaking it all in!  Thank you all for your candor in sharing your experiences.  I was diagnosed Jan. 11th, 2012, had four months of chemo (Taxol and Herceptin), then two weeks off, double mastecomy with tissue expanders placed, back in a month later for what they thought might be an infection (they did a washout, and determined it was just a pretty bad seroma, which makes me very awkwardly lopsided, at least for now), then they waited a couple of months (again, that pesky seroma caused the delay) to start radiation treatments.  I was scheduled for 28 treatments and cruised through the first 4 1/2 weeks...developed an uncomfortable "sunburn" type effect, so they gave me some lidocaine cream to put on it for the pain. I woke up the next morning with welts and blisters all over the area of my left breast and under my arm!  They are thinking I might have had an allergic reaction to the lidocaine (my mom is allergic), so they gave me Friday off and sent me home with a bag of "goodies": Aquafor, Silvasorb, and Domeboro soaks, which I did, along with aloe.  They checked me again on the following Monday, and it had gone from zero-sixty over the weekend...raw, peeling, blistering, burned mess, and very painful!  So they gave me another six days off and sent me home with the new secret weapon: gel pads....ahhhh!  Heaven!  But the problem is, everytime I take them off, more of my skin comes off with them! So now my skin is grey, oozing, sticking to my shirts, raw, skin off, etc.  I am taking Advil alternating with Tylenol, and Vicodin at night.  I will see my RO on Tuesday to see if they can continue with the last 7 treatments.  I had also heard that radiation would be a "walk in the park" and am struggling with the fact that I have been stopped in my tracks while my skin heals! I think maybe my skin is sensitive anyway, so maybe that's why the difficulty. I have to continue with Herceptin til Jan., and a month after I finish radiation I will start with the tissue expansion...can't imagine doing that right now! : (  Thanks for listening...pretty discouraged at the moment.

  • jpmomof3
    jpmomof3 Member Posts: 643
    edited September 2012

    SherBear1280, wow that's really horrible experience.  Thanks for letting us know.  I might be a little more resistent to try lidocaine or at least try it on a small spot first if it is offered.  Best wishes for healing fast.  Hope to hear more since you have more experience.

  • SherBear1280
    SherBear1280 Member Posts: 4
    edited September 2012

    Thanks!  Right now, the only thing that helps is chocolate! : )

  • rn4babies
    rn4babies Member Posts: 409
    edited September 2012
    SherBear......I did 30 rads last year the first time I was diagnosed and will do #9/25 today for my second dx. Last time I too got a terrible burn, my breast turned almost purple, the skin was peeling and was open and seeping. Despite the techs concerns, the RO insisted on "forging ahead"....finally, I refused to continue. He told me to take a week off. I stayed off work and spent with week at home with my breast hoisted up and a fan blowing on it (the open area was underneath the breast, in the fold), a comical sight indeed. I also used the Domeboro soaks. It healed up quickly and I finished the next 7 treatments without any problem.  I have a very physical job and think that when I was sweating it would irritate the radiated area.  I have a new RO this time and he said it may happen again. I am olive-skinned and tan very easily so everyone was surprised that I had this reaction. I agreed to have radiation again despite the setback last time knowing it was a very important part of my treatment plan to help kick this BC in the butt!  Good luck.......I hope you heal quickly!
  • tina_jason
    tina_jason Member Posts: 147
    edited September 2012

    OK girls!  #1 is over.  After 2 1/2 months of patiently waiting to heal (with a lot of complications) rads have finally begun.  It was a strange day because I did my treatment before work and felt completely normal all day, a lot different than my first day of chemo, thats for sure!  The oddest part was all of the markings on my chest.  I'm not getting permanent tattoos so I have sharpie marks all over covered with waterproof stickers.  They told me today would take the longest so I'm looking forward to going back in the morning, walking right past the receptionist, changing my clothes and getting it done!!!  All in all, it was a positive experience other than the initial thinking of "I can't believe I'm here" and "How did I get to this point?".  I'm looking forward to finishing my active treatments.  I have 33.  I am using aloe immediately following the treatment and Bag Balm at night.  My step mother in law recently finished rads and this was her regime and she did great!  I hope I do as well as her.

    Somewhere I read about using the cool setting on your hair dryer for your skin.  Has anyone done this?  When do you do this and how do you know when you need to do this?  I find it somewhat amusing since I haven't touched my hair dryer since February!  It probably has dust accumulating on it!

  • xtina
    xtina Member Posts: 60
    edited September 2012

    Hi ladies!  I hope that everyone is doing well!  Thanks to those that have started - sharing your initial "findings" and all - it really helps.

    I went for my first appt yesterday; apparently on the first day (this is all post-simulation from last week) they just do x-rays to make sure that everything lines up exactly as it should and that they are not zapping anything they shouldn't be, then today they actually radiate the noob.

    Even though they told me that it was just x-rays yesterday, and even though I feel like I have a very positive attitude about this all, I still had a tear well up on that table for just a second or two.  It was just a totally visceral reaction that I didn't expect; I think it's like you said Tinaj - maybe it was a reality check again, yes, I do have cancer, and how did I get here? 

    Or maybe it's this - I walk in the center and everyone else is like above 60 or 70, and here I am at 41.  People look at me with this sad sorry look on their face, and they speak to me in that quiet whispery voice that I can't stand, and I just feel like yelling "Don't feel sorry for me, I swear I am doing fine, can you not see the smile on my face!?!?!?".  "I don't feel sorry for myself, why should you feel sorry for me?"  Then it makes me wonder, should I feel sorry for myself?  Should I be dealing with this differently?  Maybe that did it.  I don't know.  Sorry to ramble! Either way, I just wish that others would realize that we are all the face of cancer, even those of us with a smile on their face!

  • xtina
    xtina Member Posts: 60
    edited September 2012

    Ladyfighter - I am also using the Aloe at night.  They gave me mometasone (it's a corticosteroid) to apply after the rads, then at night time I'm to do the Aloe.  I just hope that my skin does not blow up - it's really fair and sensitive - I do not tan.  I'm sure that they'll keep an eye on it though - my Onc and rad specialists are very attentive.

    Sherbear - ugh what an experience!  Hang in there!  Good vibes coming your way for skin healing!

    Tinaj - is the dryer thing just supposed to feel good, or like help with the moisture?  I had not heard that before so I have no expertise there, if I do anywhere!  LOL!

  • Jeni1962
    Jeni1962 Member Posts: 31
    edited September 2012

    Hi Xtina and everyone,

    I know what you mean about the smile on your face. That is how I am with all of this. However, a better analogy of what I'm REALLY feeling at times is...a girlfriend told me this...I'm more like a duck on the pond...floating along looking peaceful and "Ok"...when under water his feet are paddling like hell to stay a float. That is how I feel SOME days...not most...not all. It's been a lot of ups and downs. 

    I leaving right now for day 5 of my RADS. Started turning red on day 2. Feels like when you go to a tanning bed and you get a little red the first time and think...oops...better not go for a few days or a week. Well...with RADS...you don't have that lovely choice. Gotta get up in the morning and keep doing it until it's done. My RO doesn't seem concerned and I'm trying very hard not to get freaked out about it...but I know it's gonna get worse before it gets better.

    Just putting a ton of lotion on 2 times a day after and hope that helps in the long run!  It's always a weird feeling to lay on that table and have this HAPPEN to your body!  We are strong women and we will make it through! Just have to stand together and hold each other along the way when we need someone to lean on!

    Good luck ladies!

    Jeni 

  • virginiab
    virginiab Member Posts: 205
    edited September 2012

    Hello--

    I'm new to this group and I'm glad you're here. I'm scheduled for my last chemo session day after tomorrow, then it's on to the next exciting event on the itinerary: radiation. Thanks for being here for support and information from those who are a bit ahead of me in this journey.

  • Nkb
    Nkb Member Posts: 1,436
    edited September 2012

    6/25 done today. I really enjoyed the weekend off and so did my skin. I am starting to get a little itchy, the skin is on and off sensitive, not much color change. They repeated X-rays today. Aloe vera feels good. Finding the right clothes is a little more challenging. I want really soft and need upper chest coverage and around the neck due to the treatment of the superclavs.

  • Aruba
    Aruba Member Posts: 543
    edited September 2012

    Hi all i start with xrays tats and 1st treatment all tomorrow afternoon. What is the purpose of all the xrays when they have done cat scans already for location of heart/lungs etc?

  • Junif
    Junif Member Posts: 100
    edited September 2012

    Virginia--sorry you have to be here, but seeing that you are from Champaign made me smile!  My husband and I met at Uof I--you brought up lots of good memories!

  • jpmomof3
    jpmomof3 Member Posts: 643
    edited September 2012

    Aruba I have no idea what those extra X-ray are for except that they are checking alignment but of what I don't know...



    I like a lot of us teared up on that machine during the sims and especially that first treamtment. That machine is big and high tech and intimidating and really let's you know that you have something wrong with you. I am 42 (41 at diagnosis) and definitely the youngest in the locker room. I hate the pitying looks too. Though I also hate that everyone looks at me and says I look great and seem like I am doing great. I try to be strong but it breaks down. I am freaking out about lymphedema and axillary web syndrome and any red spot that shows up. I am driving my husband crazy.



    They have something called feel good Friday at the cancer center here on the first Friday of the month. They have food and music and hair stylists and manicurists and cosmetologists for cancer patients. I had to walk through it to get to my radiation appointment earlier this month. The nurses invited me to go but no way in hell. All the people there were ancient and looked like crap. I don't want to hang around a bunch of old decrepit cancer patients. I know that sounds mean but that environment would not make me feel better... I am not old and I shouldn't have this fucking disease.



    I had 6 of 33 today. 27 to go. No real symptoms yet. They don't expect any until the 10-12 dose. despite all the ranting I feel ok.

  • jpmomof3
    jpmomof3 Member Posts: 643
    edited September 2012

    Welcome to all the new people... Sorry you are in this mess with us. I really do find this an amazing website and resource. We are all going through this and really understand each other better than most. there are too many of us though. I hate cancer.

  • grateful33
    grateful33 Member Posts: 58
    edited September 2012

    Hi everyone

    Thanks for sharing your feelings. I am going in for tx #3 today. I also got really emotional (teary and anxious) with the first two tx's. I kept saying to myself; what is wrong with me, I am usually so strong..... This should be so easy after chemo, but those machines are so intimidating and I definitely feel the whole: wow, I really do have cancer and the how did I get here? thing

    I'm hoping it will get easier....

    But it really helps to know that others are feeling the same (although I wish none of you had to go through this either)

    Big hugs ladies!

  • Brooklynmom
    Brooklynmom Member Posts: 18
    edited September 2012

    Hi ladies- I started radiation on sept 9th. I also started to feel sensitive after the first week, and a burning sensation as i begin the second week. Nothing too bad, but feels a little scary with 5 more weeks to go. I see the RO for the first time since beginning actual tx tomorrow. Hope he remains thoughtful, sensitive and helpful. I also get a little nauseous the next morning - someone suggested eating a dozen Lima beans before tx to help w nausea. One day at a time - sometimes one minute at a time.

  • SherBear1280
    SherBear1280 Member Posts: 4
    edited September 2012

    Dear rn4babies,

     Thanks for sharing your experiences with me...it does seem strange that you are olive skinned and got such a bad reaction, but one of my sons has very dark olive skin, and he had the worst diaper rashes of all my kids, requiring getting out the blow dryer during diaper changes to make sure his skin was very dry!  So I guess everyone is different.

     I just saw my RO this afternoon and she wants to give it a couple more days; I feel like I am turning a corner from "raw hamburger" skin to light pink, drier, and a lot of the yucky grey dead stuff is peeling off.  I think the Domeboro soaks have been really helpful even though they sting like mad on the raw parts!  I had chemo yesterday, and the PA told me I am not taking enough pain meds, and told me to up my Advil from 2 pills twice a day to 4 pills every eight hours, then Tylenol in between, then Percocet at night. I took a Percocet when I went to bed last night and one in the middle of the night, and slept like a log!  Hooray! First time in a week! My thought this morning was, "What skin?" : )  As my friend who has colorectal cancer and is in radiation and chemo says, "better living through drugs"! ; )  I have always been one to take the bare minimum of pain or any other medications, but I think she's right...if you get to the point where you want to give up and can't function, sometimes the pain meds can get you through.  I grew up in an alcoholic home so have always been very careful about not going down that road.  I am having to rethink the meds thing and realize that yes, I am sick, and yes, I need a little help to get through this last part of treatment! : )  One side hugs to you!  I am so sorry you are having to go through this again...is that unusual to have a different type of cancer come back in the other side?

  • SherBear1280
    SherBear1280 Member Posts: 4
    edited September 2012

    Dear xtina and everyone,

      Thanks for your hugs and well wishes!  I was relieved when I read that xtina said she had a tear in her eye when she was in the machine...my first treatment I had a tear rolling down each side of my face, and I remember thinking how bizarre it was to be getting zapped with radiation (something you are told your whole life is dangerous!), and it is such a huge scary machine, and I am alone in there, the technicians say, "Here we go" and then promptly LEAVE the room...my dad used to say, "Whaddya mean 'we'? You got a mouse in your pocket?" : )  They play such lame music, so I am listening to pop music (which I never listen to), so I either try to pray, or try to think about my schedule for the week, or maybe actually listen to the silly lyrics on the radio station, all the time thinking, this has to be a mistake....you don't understand...this is ME!

      I felt the same way when I started chemo....scared out of my gourd each week to go; all the time I was thinking, "Oh, my God, they are pumping POISON into my body!"  Then when I had the double mastectomy, even standing in church for the two weeks before my surgery, all I could think was, "They are going to take a knife and cut off my breasts, and no one can do anything about it!".  But whenever I tried to "flee" in my mind, I realized that I have known three women in my life who chose to do all "natural" treatments....and they all died very quickly, quite young, so here I am, no breasts, getting poison pumped into my body and letting them blast me with radiation!

      My youngest daughter said when she was very little to her sister (when I would occasionally send her to her room if she was being naughty): "Mom thinks when I'm in my room by myself that I'm fine, but I'm NOT fine!"  This kind of describes how I feel a lot of the time.  I can shower, put decent clothes on, make-up on, and smile....so people say things like "oh, but you look really good" or "you look healthy" or "your skin tone looks good", but inside I am sad, mad, anxious, incredulous,etc.  Inside I feel like the "Naked Mole Rat". (google that!) My chest looks like Frankenstein, my toenails are falling off, my skin is dry, I have sores in my nose (of all places!)....but I tell myself, it could always be worse!  At least you're not like the lady who has Stage 4 colon cancer which metastisized to her brain...or like your friend whose breast cancer came back stage 4 and died a couple of weeks ago...hmmm.  Works sometimes. 

      About the age thing, I have eight children (four still at home, homeschooling youngest two), and I guess I still generally feel young (until this year, chemo started Jan. 30th); I am 54 years old.  I went to a support group nearby a couple of months ago because I finally felt ready to talk to some people like me; they were all through treatment already, and were all kind of older than myself; I felt kind of like an outsider. They had been in this group for years and talked mostly about their trips/vacations/work, etc.  I just wanted to speak in a more intimate way about some of the brutality of this path, but I guess they were past that already.  I hope to be some day.

      Thank you for listening to my ramblings...it is hard to talk to friends/family about all this because it weighs everyone down so much because they can't really relate. They are sympathetic and compassionate, but it is too hard for them to really know.

      Love and hugs to all of you, and thank you for sharing your lives with me.  I am real and I am hurting like you!

  • rn4babies
    rn4babies Member Posts: 409
    edited September 2012

    I went for #10/25 and when I got there they cancelled me because the machine broke down! Grrrr......i just want to get this over with!

    SherBear.....I know what you mean about it being hard to talk to friends/family. Especially since this is my second time around. My mom and sister both had BC but didn't have to do the chemo so I don't think they really understand that part.

    I don't think its that unusual to have a differant BC in the other breast. It was more advanced. They claim it wasn't on the previous mammogram that I had my my MO thinks it was there the whole time. Had I been dx'd in both breasts the first time I probably would have had a masectomy.

    This website is fabulous and has been a tremendous source of support and a wealth of information. You almost feel like as if you personally know some of the gals on here!

  • Justsayyes
    Justsayyes Member Posts: 34
    edited September 2012

    I stopped by this thread even though as of tomorrow I will have finished my rads two weeks ago!  I was sensitive, had a purple and painful breast requiring some prescription lidocaine and vicodin to be comfortable.  I didn't blister or have my skin break down to weepiness or open sores, so I feel lucky.  Didn't have any trouble until redness started halfway thru, and it was the last two weeks that were a "pain". 

    Some of the products I used were aquafore, hydrocortisone cream (over the counter), anti-chafing gel by Lanacane (put this where skin touches other skin to prevent friction), aloe vera gel, prescription Biafine and lidocaine.  I had prescription Silvadene for any blistering.  The last two weeks I stopped using anything oily like the Aquafore because my breast was hot and oils made it feel worse.  The Biafine was the most soothing with the lidocaine.  I layered one after the other.  I used a few "new skin" hydrogel pads bought at Amazon covered with a gauze pad for a few days.  My coobie bra held them in place.

    The main reason I was posting was this talk of using a hair dryer on cool.  I just cringed a little because if you slip off that cool button, it will be painful.  I realized drying my hair topless that I had to be very cautious to not blow any hot air in the direction of my poor breast.  Just be careful out there ladies!

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