Calling all ladies in their 20's

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  • taraceta28
    taraceta28 Member Posts: 36
    edited August 2012

    amandabiv: good luck. :)

  • amandabiv
    amandabiv Member Posts: 67
    edited August 2012

    taraceta: thank you :)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012
    More of an update for you younger ladies:

    I am 23, was diagnosed initially with DCIS, Stage 0, Grade 3, comedo-type breast cancer. I chose to have a BMX with SNB on 8-8. My surgical pathology showed that my lymphnodes were negative so none were removed besides the 3 for testing - 2 sentinel, 1 non-sentinel. I also was diagnosed with IDC, Stage 1, Grade 2 breast cancer. Now I am looking towards hormonal treatment/chemotherapy (combined) since I am so young and want to kick this thing in the teeth. I am going for a second opinion at the Dana Farber Center in Boston, MA. and am also looking to freeze my eggs before any treatment occurs. I did not test positive for BRCA, which is amazing. However, I am still scared and right now I am just trying to get my school schedule (I am a Psych Master's grad student) in order before all of this gets started. 

    Hi to those who are new and those that are old (on the discusison boards I mean). We can get through this because we are strong women...*hugs to all*
  • taraceta28
    taraceta28 Member Posts: 36
    edited August 2012

    justegan: sorry to hear about your pathology. Love your attitude about kicking it in the teeth. Dana Farber is great. Good luck!

  • amandabiv
    amandabiv Member Posts: 67
    edited August 2012

    justegan: try your best to keep that attitude your gonna need it...good luck to you my prayers are with you all of you!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012
    Tara & Amanda, thanks...it is tough to keep this attitude all of the time. At the same time, it is the only thing that will get me through this. I can't control this but I can control how I react to my situation. Thank you for your wishes of luck, I could use them! My thoughts and prayers are with you both as well!!

    Justine <3
  • prettyinpinkterminator
    prettyinpinkterminator Member Posts: 9
    edited August 2012

    Hi, I hope I am posting in the right place. I've been a long time lurker and just joined today. I'm 26 and was diagnosed with Stage III IDC on Friday, April 13 this year. Go figure it would be a Friday the 13th, right? I just finished my last round of TAC x6 this past Wednesday. My tumor was over 6cm when I was diagnosed, but now, they can't feel it anymore (yay!). I am supposed to have a followup MRI this Wednesday to see what's going on in there to determine what kind of surgery I am eligible for at this point. I'm scared, to say the least.

    I never thought I'd be diagnosed with breast cancer. I am a health freak, a gym rat, and a hypochondriac with no family history of disease. I don't drink alcohol, smoke, consume caffeine, and I'm basically a vegetarian (if you have to put a label on my diet -- it is just very rare that I eat meat or dairy). Docs say I'm just a case of bad luck.

    Anyway...I'm glad to be through chemo, because it was definitely tough for me. Just trying to bounce back to myself now and see what's next. As much as this stinks, I'm glad I'm not alone in it. 

  • MiniMacsMom
    MiniMacsMom Member Posts: 595
    edited August 2012

    PPPTerminator.  Welcome.  Though we are still fairly rare, you are definately not alone.  YAY for being done with chemo.  I hope the rest of this is an easy downhill slope!

  • amandabiv
    amandabiv Member Posts: 67
    edited August 2012

    prettyinpink: Welcome!! As unhappy as we are about dealing with this I am happy to say that you are not alone and have found a sisterhood here...idk that I would say that cancer is bad luck I call it my bump in the road of life that the devil has thrown my way but God is bringing me through it!! Congrats on being done with your chemo I know it seems small to some but I celebrated when I was done with it to....my prayers are with you through this journey!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012
    Prettyinpink,

    I share your same sentiments with regards to my diagnosis. I was shocked as I have no family history, eat fairly well, and was physically active. I also do not have the BRCA gene. So I do wonder, how did this happen? Often. But then I try to remember that this is just a bump in the road and that I am young and will get through this. 

    You have come to an amazing place. All of the women on here are extremely supportive and reassuring. I found this site the day of my diagnosis and am so glad I did.

    Justine =)
  • Toastiecat
    Toastiecat Member Posts: 132
    edited September 2012

    I can really relate to the ladies posting about their sad feelings around pregnant friends. Last week, my best friend got engaged, and I really am so so happy for her, but it also hurts. Basically it reminds me of our wedding two years ago, and how much has changed. How important all those decisions about cakes and seating charts seemed, and how stressful it was...it's a good kind of stress, really. One thing that really got to me was thinking about the dress, and how you worry about what will look good on you, etc. Now that I have a "new" body, I'm going through that every day. One blogger I was reading said that breast cancer winds up being like a second puberty, because your body changes radically in ways you can't predict. I thought that was an interesting way to think about it. So now I'm doing what I did when I was 12 and just getting boobs-- wearing lots of giant tshirts, ;).

    I hope everyone is getting to relax a bit this holiday weekend!

  • MiniMacsMom
    MiniMacsMom Member Posts: 595
    edited September 2012

    As sucky as all this is, for me adjusting to the new normal has been tough.  I am having a good week this week so far!  I talked to one of my gf and she gave me the comparison (where her friend with a different issue said the same thing "adjusting to her new normal")  They went through IVF at the same time and the other girl only got one egg.  The egg didn't fertilize and they are tight on money.  The repro endo basically told this other woman that without the use of donor eggs (an additional 25k for a slightly increased but still lower than normal shot at conceiving)  Carrying wasn't going to happen for her.  They have now started to look into adoption, but she was saying it was hard for her when my gf got preggers with IVF and she had so much failure.  She had to adjust and is now resuming an active life in our mutual gf's life.  But she said the same thing it was hard to watch others get pregnant and do things knowing she never will, even though they are ok with adoption.  It was sad but nice to know its not a feeling that is exclusive to us.  Though ours is different, there are many others out there adjusting to issues.  I am still wondering if the tamox/tamox menopause is increasing the feelings and mood swings. 

    On a side note I have decided to keep all my bottles from tamox.  i am one down officially and it will be nice to throw them all out when I hit 60!

  • Jamie0712
    Jamie0712 Member Posts: 20
    edited September 2012

    To Justegan -

    I am 22 years old and just recently diagnosed with DCIS on my right breast. I have had problems with my right breast since I was 19, I have had 3 lumpectomies, and finally this third lumpectomy I was diagnosed with DCIS. I talk to my oncologist and her advice is that I will probably down the road need a mastectomy. Somedays I'm ok with the thought with mastectomy and reconstruction and some days I'm not. My fears are that I am so young, and losing my breast and how will it look like after reconstruction. I am thinking I would probably do implants. So my question for you is what made you choose bilat mastectomy and how are you dealing with all of it? Thanks so much

  • Jamie0712
    Jamie0712 Member Posts: 20
    edited September 2012

    @Kathyhong

     I read somewhat of your story!, I see that you got right lumpectomy and then bmx. I am currently 22, and I started to have lumps at 19. Long story short, I have had three right lumpectomies. And this past July I had my third lumpectomy and got diagnosed DCIS. I am in the process of needing a MRI needle biopsy for my left breast (never had problems there, but they want to make sure). And my oncologist suggests I will prob need a right mastectomy down the road. If not I can go the lumpectomy/rads way. But eventually since my reoccuring lumps, I will prob need mastectomy eventually. My question to you is just how did you deal and choose that you wanted a bilat mastectomy, and how are you dealing with the reconstruction part? I think I will choose mastectomy.. but still a little scared.. scared about pain, and dealing with loosing my breast, and how it will look after reconstruction, etc. Thanks so much

    - Jamie

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2012

    Hi Jamie,

    I am really sorry to hear about your diagnosis, no matter what age we are this sucks for all of us. However, I'd like to believe it sucks just a little bit more for us that are younger since we haven't even lived a quarter of a century (for us that is) and now we have to deal with this crap. 

    If you don't mind my asking, what size are you now after all of the lumpectomies? Were you able to keep both of your nipples? 


    The reason I ask both of those questions is because the answers to those two questions were part of the three main reasons I chose a bilateral mastectomy over the single mastectomy (I only had cancer in my right breast) as well as why I chose to do the BMX in general:

    1.  I had small breasts to begin with (34 A), so for me...I was not losing as much with regards to my body. Still does not change that I lost a part of me, but I viewed it as "I'm losing my boobs to save my life." I told someone that I viewed this whole experience as a war, and that I possibly needed to lose a battle to win the war. In essence, I lost the battle in keeping my breasts but I will win the war with regards to this cancer. Invasive ductal carcinoma could not be ruled out either upon my diagnosis of DCIS. My surgical pathology showed that I did have IDC...luckily we caught it early and I was able to have clear margins after surgery (I still have isolatd tumor cells so other treatment is needed but I am happy I made the decision I did). 

    2.
    For me there wasn't much to save with regards to my breast. I was explicity told that my right breast pretty much couldn't be saved due to the size of the tumor/size of my breast. My right nipple could not be saved since I had a tumor literally right underneath it. So for me, again the BMX was an easy decision because I did not want really assymetrical boobs. 

    3. I don't want to have to look over my shoulder for the next 5, 10, 15 years wondering when cancer is going to happen to the other breast. If it did come back (not that it is gone yet), I can at least say that I fought it the hardest way possible...and because of that I will never have any regrets. Even when I was told I had isolated tumor cells in my lymphnodes I was sad because I thought it would be over for me after the BMX. However, I am still happy that I went the route of the BMX because I can say I fought this the hardest way possible.

    Also, note that reconstruction does look great. I have an amazing plastic surgeon and I had to go with tissue expanders due to my size (5'1', 102 pounds), I didn't have enough fat for a DIEP flap. The TEs are an adjustment, however; they really aren't that bad. My boobs are bigger than they ever were and honestly the lack of nipples does not bother me at all (I chose NOT to do nipple sparing on the left side...for me it was about assymetry). To be honest, I don't have a ton of feeling in my breasts even after skin sparing so I am happy I chose to not to nipple sparing [although that is an option for you =)]. I love love love going braless and no having to worry about my nipples standing at attention lol! Since I am young, I was up and walking around even with the drains in after surgery without much problem. 

    Whatever decision you make, please make it for you. I know a lot of my family judged me when I told them I was doing the BMX. And even doctors look at me like I'm crazy when I say I did (mostly because most young women wouldn't go that route). But when I explain my reasoning they understand and they say they would've done the same thing. It was the right decision for me and I let no one (not even my parents) weigh in. I knew it was right for me before I was diagnosed. So all I can urge you to do is think about what you would be comfortable living with. I still wake up and the scars are startling, however; I view them as my battle wounds and I try to wear them as proudly as I can. 

    Hope that helps you and if you have any other questions please feel free to private message me!

    Justine <3

  • Toastiecat
    Toastiecat Member Posts: 132
    edited September 2012

    Hi Jamie,

     I'm so sorry you're going through this. We are members of a really crappy club. I'm glad you found the board. I just wanted to chime in about the BMX. I had one last month, and it was definitely a roller coaster in terms of making the decision. I want to echo JustEgan's very wise point, which is that the decision has to be yours and yours alone. Unfortunately, maybe because we are young, many family members and friends feel the need to weigh in and sometimes aren't so helpful. I was sure about my decision about prophylactic mx, until my aunt (who also had bc) made some comment about it. Then I was a mess, wondering if I was making a huge mistake.

    Ultimately, I feel (one month out) that it was the right decision for me. I know myself, and I know I would worry about it all the time if I still had that breast. That was really the deciding factor. It felt silly at the time to make a decision like that based on emotions (I feel that as women, people scoff at us for making judgement calls based on emotion rather than cold reason, but that's a whole other discussion!!) but I feel like it was the right choice. 

    Talk to lots of doctors and survivors to figure out what's best for you. Ask all the questions you can. One thing that was a surprise to me is the lack of feeling in the tissue now. They remove most of the nerves in the mx, which I knew, but I assumed my skin would still have sensation, which it does not. It can take a long time to heal that way, so I'm hopeful it will eventually come back at least somewhat. I always say that I feel "as good as I can" about this decision. It makes me sad, but I feel it was the right choice.

    Hope this was helpful to you!

    xoxo

  • Jamie0712
    Jamie0712 Member Posts: 20
    edited September 2012

    @Toastiecat

    Thanks for your advice! Yeah ultimately I understad it's my decision and I'm giving it a good amount of thought. So you got a bmx? did you have bc on both sides? Also I see that you are doing the tissue expanders, if I go the mastectomy way I will prob to TE and implants. How are the tissue expanders?

     And yeah about the lack of feeling, I was wondering about that also. I have had three lumpectomies and this past lumpectomy on the side of breast it has been kind of numb. So I could only imagine how mastectomy feels.

    My question to all the ladies ---- How long after bmx or umx were you guys out of work/school? And how long before you were out and about? I work as a nurse (floor nurse) so I already know I cannot work on light duty. So I'm wondering how long before I could go back to work, and how long before I can drive around and do normal activities. Thanks you guys!

    -Jamie

  • Toastiecat
    Toastiecat Member Posts: 132
    edited September 2012

    Hi Jamie,

    Yes, I did a BMX. Had cancer in left, but took the healthy right breast as well.

    I think officially, the recovery time is 4 - 6 weeks. I went back to work at reduced hours on day 12, but my job is not as active as yours, and I could ask other people to do anything I couldn't. In retrospect, I probably went back too early, but I was going out of my mind at home! The following week while at work I had really bad pain (like as bad as the day after surgery), and developed a some minor problems at my right incision. My surgeon said I was doing too much and I had to cut back.  I think for young women, our energy levels and things bounce back pretty quickly, so we do need to continue to rest even though we are feeling pretty okay. 

    The first couple days after surgery were the hardest, but you really get better so fast. Each day is exponentially better than the last. (it doesn't feel like that at first, but it really is true) I was pretty helpless the first two days, so I would recommend having someone close to you stay with you if at all possible. Day 3 I took a car trip to the doctor (not driving myself because I was still on painkillers), day 5 I went to the mall and movies, by day 7 I could walk a half mile at a pretty normal pace.

    The drains really dictated how I felt, they just made me feel icky.The day they came out after three weeks, I felt a crazy surge of energy!

    There are still some things that are still hard for me -- like carrying a large heavy box is something I can't do yet, or opening and closing windows...things that you can't figure out a way to do with other muscles. I wished I had done a lot of crunches before surgery, so I would have had an easier time sitting up in those first few days.

    Oh, and think about getting an underarm wax before surgery...I couldn't shave my armpits for 3 weeks, so things got a little bohemian under there, haha. Check with your doctor to make sure it's okay first.

    The TEs are fine, annoying, but fine. I just started being able to sleep on my side reasonably comfortably. The part where the valve is at the top hurts if my cat steps on it (which is multiple times a night, lol) but the rest is just numb or funny feeling. The fills weren't too bad, I took valium and ibuprofen beforehand, and just needed a nap afterwards.

    xoxo

  • luckykitkat09
    luckykitkat09 Member Posts: 190
    edited September 2012

    Hi Jamie!



    I agree with Justine. There's many factors that can gear you decision to one or the other. My surgeon Dr. A suggested the bmx after my 6mth mammogram and had found lumps on both sides. She didn't know or not if this would keep reoccurring or not but seeing as I am one of her few youngest patients she didn't want to keep opening me up. She suggested the bmx and as sad as I was to lose my breasts (I was small anyway) I didn't hesitate and gave her my okay. My implant exchange is December, I feel anxious because I want it over already but it's not so bad. My pain wasn't that horrible. For everyone the pain level and how they dealt with it will be different. The drains for me were bloody hell! I couldn't drive or lift my arms for about a month (I was pretty tight after surgery i'm guessing) but it was somewhat smooth sailing afterwards. I was able to keep both my nipples. Dr. A did say that there will be some cells there so I would have to still self check for no new lumps but she doubts it, her main concern was removing my whole breast tissue. I had a lumpectomy scar around my right nipple. I probably wouldve had my PS remove them if it meant I could fix that scar and tattoo my nipples later. But at my reconstruction In December my PS will do a revision scar there to minimize it so it's okay. I'm done with the fills for the TEs so it's a game of being patience till then.



    For me emotionally I had to deal with a lot of things since my mom was done with her colon cancer. She had intensive radiation and chemo. I was lucky to not need radiation even though I had a Phyolldes tumor. So for me, I choose the bmx mostly because I agreed with Dr. A for not wanting to be cut open so much and have more internal scarring but also I just wanted things done and over with. I wasn't scared of the possible radiation or of surgery but of the fact if I had to deal with a possible reoccurring lump. (the second time around I didn't do a biopsy before the bmx, so I was a time bomb waiting to explode) my pathology report after my bmx said it was baby tumors and 2cysts. How many exactly I didn't ask or wanted to know. I was glad it wasn't anymore worse or bigger than the first lympectomy.

    I had my bmx during summer and was at home for a month. The TEs were okay. The fills weren't so bad. Because my skin was tight it hurt if I filled too much at a time. The numbness after a while I got used to it. The numbness of my left back underarm by the armpit (I hope that made sense haha) is slowly fading :) on the right side it's still numb...not better or worse. If I take off my shirt and it rubs against it, it gives me a burning feel for two seconds but no complaints here for me. They were a pain when I sleep though.
    I also had skin sparring and like Justine said that could be an option.

    Justine:
    "nipples standing at attention" haha that cracked me up!! But I probably wouldve done that too. It feels weird wearing a tank top and everyone can see your nipples >_< thank god for the nipple coverings..



    Kathy :]

  • Jamie0712
    Jamie0712 Member Posts: 20
    edited September 2012

    @toastiecat



    I met with my ps yesterday and he yep he said at least 4 weeks. But I'm thinking might be longer for me to get back at work, we do a lot of patient lifting and turning sometimes.. But that's great to hear that after a week or so you were starting to get around mall, movies and walking. I'm not the type to like staying at home and doing nothing for very long...lol My ps said I would prob keep the drains in for a week, but I've heard and know other women keep them longer. I think depends how much fluid is coming from them.



    And on my to do list now is crunches lol. And that's funny about the bohemian thing in the underarms. Lol! But that's great advice I'll def get a wax then before surgery if I can haha. If you have any other tid bits that would be great :)



    I also talk to my ps about the fills, he said every week to get it filled, then at 3-4 months I can get the implants.



    @kathyhong



    Yeah I keep hearing the drains are kind of sucky. Hopefully I'll only have to keep for a week. And about the scar on your nipple. I have a scar on half of my nipple on the side, I talked to ps and he said he may or may not be able to save during surgery because once he does mastectomy, blood will only flow to the side of the nipple that doesn't have the scar..so nipple sparing may not be an option, he won't know until he does surgery. So we shall see. I scheduled my MRI biopsy for next week, the lady who scheduled me I asked what exactly happens and unfortunately her answer was she didn't know...



    Sooo if any of you ladies have had an MRI biopsy let me know what do they exactly do :) thanks!



  • luckykitkat09
    luckykitkat09 Member Posts: 190
    edited September 2012

    Jamie-
    On the bright side if your PS can't save your nipples, at least you can reconstruct or tattoo them so they'll match! xD LOL! I've only had the ultrasound biopsy..

    For the MRI biopsy, and correct me if I'm wrong anyone, they use an MRI to create like a 3D pic effect. I think they will have you either lie facedown on a scanning table and there should be a hollow cavity in the table for your boobs when you lie down (we can't squish our boobs for the imaging) or lie face upward. The MRI is just like a mammogram.it will show the lump so they know where to do the needle biopsy and send it to the lab for testing.
    Should be very similar to the ultrasound biopsy though.

  • Swartzk
    Swartzk Member Posts: 1
    edited September 2012

    Hello! I'm 25 and was diagnosed at 24 yo earlier this year. I have no family history and am very healthy. The only link I've found that makes sense to my diagnosis is that I had a Mirena IUD. I'm very upset with myself but thankful for my daughter that I have. I'm sad there are other women my age that's diagnosed but thankful that we have our youth working for us! I was stageIIIa 6cm tumor grade 3 with 6 lymph nodes involved. I've had a bilateral mastectomy and lymph dissection. 8 rounds of chemo (4ac 4 tx) 38 radiation cycles and am trying to put off tamoxifen so that I can possibly do egg retrieval for surrogacy. God bless you girls :)

  • taraceta28
    taraceta28 Member Posts: 36
    edited September 2012

    Hello everyone! Haven't been on in a week. Took me a while to read through everything. I finished my radiation on thursday :) Finally finished something and it felt happy sad. I was very emotional.

    Fatigue is still kicking my butt! It helps that my girls are back to school so now I have to get up and moving bright and early and I am doing more housework now.

    Welcome to the new ladies. sorry about your diagnosis but happy your here to get support. I wish i found this site sooner.

    as far as the question about choosing bmx, my decision was pretty much that i was scared if i didnt do it, it would come back, my cancer side i had no choice, very small IDC but lots of DCIS and if they took it out i would not have a boob left anyway (34A)

    So I thought i would feel relieved that i was heading towards my expander swap but now im SCARED. I have had 2 surgeries and i still am scared of anesthesia. I know I will be happy to get my squishies lol, these expanders bother me more by the day. My PS said i might have to get a new one on my radiated side and patch the radiated skin, wait for it to heal and then fill it up again. Right now my non cancer side is all ready to go, but looks like it will be a while.

    Hope everyone has a good weekend.

    Theresa

  • amandabiv
    amandabiv Member Posts: 67
    edited September 2012

    Congrats tara on being finished with radation, It was emotional for me as well!!

    With the BMX for me watching my grandmother go through it twice and given my age I thought it would be better for me to go ahead and do both, keep in mind though that it does not fully secure you of never dealing with BC again 5% of breast tissue is left nothing they can do about that!! For me it just made sense so just remember its something you have to decide for you!!

    tara: I to am getting closer to being able to do my ps surgery and I am beyond ready to get it done cause the expanders/spacers are annoying I hate them but I am also nervous. Breast implants is not something I ever thought about just something I never thought of doing and now Im getting it done so Idk how I feel about it except annoyed!!

    Hope all are doing well you are in my thoughts and prayers!!

  • luckykitkat09
    luckykitkat09 Member Posts: 190
    edited September 2012

    Taraceta28 & Amanda-

    My implant exchange is sometime in December and I can't believe it's September!

  • taraceta28
    taraceta28 Member Posts: 36
    edited September 2012

    Hey ladies, hope everyone is doing good. I am at 1 week after the end of radiation. Still tired and now i feel like my expander from my radiated side is gonna jab right through the side. Gonna call the ps today. I was thinking its because it was stretched so far and then they had to take half of it out for rads so maybe it needs some saline to fill it out? i dont know but i finally was at the point where i could lay on my side if i layed half on a pillow and now i cant and feel that im losing some range of motion in my arm. Does anyone else feel like they are going backwards?

  • Melanie_Ann
    Melanie_Ann Member Posts: 414
    edited September 2012

    After I had radiation, I actually went to physical therapy. The exercises they gave me really helped with my range of motion! But I will say...I'm a year out from radiation and I'm still a little stiff in the armpit area. I have full range of motion, it just feels tight. Ask about PT! =) Yay for being done with radiation!

  • MiniMacsMom
    MiniMacsMom Member Posts: 595
    edited September 2012

    I had PT and LE therapy during radiation.  They said the radiation can damage the muscle fibers in your chest wall, and it can last for up to a few years, so stretching is really important.   I also think it really helped with my range of motion.  They basically told me to use gravity to help with the ROM... for instance lay on your back with your head on the edge of the bed (not against a wall) and raise both hands over your head as far as possible.  Hold for at least 15 seconds and lower.  Do this 5-10 times once or twice a day.  The other big on was to lay against a wall on my side and raise my arm over my head using the wall to keep it straight.  Hold it as far up as possible for 15 plus seconds and lower.  They said youa ren't really stretching the muscle if you don't hold it for long enough.  I hope this helps, most insurances I think cover PT for stuff like this, sometimes the hardest part is getting the referal from your physician.   Good luck! 

  • amandabiv
    amandabiv Member Posts: 67
    edited September 2012

    I havent had any stiffness with mine so I have no advice but I will pray for you

  • NicoleJasien
    NicoleJasien Member Posts: 50
    edited September 2012

    Hi girls I'm 28 with 3 kids..... Glad I had them early. I already had my double mastectomy and am in the middle of chemo right now.

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