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  • maa764
    maa764 Member Posts: 55
    edited September 2012

    I had treatment #4 today and after a break for vacation I felt like I was starting over.  I had major anxiety on the way in this morning.  My stomach hurt during treatment and lower back pain that I never had before I also had a major headache.  They gave me benedryl orally because there is a nationwide shortage of the iv solution strange so only one little pill not sure how much I get in iv but it normally wipes me out.  I slept alot of the 5 hours I was there and then came home and slept 3 more.  Trying to stay awake so I can sleep tonight. 

    I saw the MO yesterday and tried to discuss the mastectomy with him he pretty much said it is my decision - I was hoping for a little more stats since the surgeon is pushing for it 3 -4 weeks after my last treatment in Oct.  It was like he did not have the time to talk - maybe I am just sensitive because my head is going in many directions over the surgery and reconstruction.  I have read too much and talked to too many people with serious complications I guess.

    I really try to stay positive and not complain but I am at the breaking point right now. Thank you for listening.

    On a happy note I had an awesome vacation with my dad and family!!!!! I did not realize how much I needed it.

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited September 2012

    havingfaith - As I've said before, we are practically treatment twins.  I have 1 more Taxol next week and then I'm done!  My MO also said no Neulasta after the last one.  I met with the RO last week and he said to call when I'm done with chemo and I can start rads 2 weeks later.  I'm scared about rads, but happy that I will be one step closer to being done.  I hope your third time provides you with minimal SE.

    Kimmie - I hope your SE are minimal.

    SLK - congratulations on being done!

    Keepmoving - I hope you're feeling better soon.

  • havingfaith
    havingfaith Member Posts: 93
    edited September 2012

    Marcia- Im scared about rads also.  I have had a mental block about it this whole time...finally excepting it.

    Pam - How are you doing?  Are you done with the taxol?  Hope you are doing well!!

    Will some of you be moving to a radiation board?

    Everyone have a great day!!! 

  • StephanieJM
    StephanieJM Member Posts: 78
    edited September 2012

    Good Morning,

    I had my 3rd Taxol on Tues. onc gave me morphine for the pain, #2 was just terrible. I too am thinking about going over and looking at the posts on the radiation board. I've been trying to handle one thing at a time here, too much to think about. Someone who has been through this did tell my husband that rads were "a piece of cake after chemo". Someone just finishing said she was very sore and tired. I understand it is like a sunburn. I have a call in now to the radiation dr. I met her once after surgery but need to get appt. to get the "form" made. I start one month after last chemo. i Don't want any slip ups that mess up my schedule, if all goes well I will finish about Thanksgiving.... and what a Thanksgivine that will be!!!:) Remember I am the one that lives 100 miles from the radiation clinic.... bummer!!!

    Hope everyone is having a great day. Bless you all.

  • Kimmie0247
    Kimmie0247 Member Posts: 38
    edited September 2012

    If it could go wrong today at Chemo it did. I'm so over Taxol! I have had enough! The whole point of chemo was so that I would make sure as much as the cancer was gone.....because I did NOT WANT TO DIE! What good is Taxol if it kills me????? My heart rate dropped to 22 and I went into A-Fib and Flutter plus I felt like my ovaries were going to explode! I made them stop the infusion.! I just can't do this anymore. I will consider a different drug...but no more Taxol!

  • allisontom911
    allisontom911 Member Posts: 425
    edited September 2012

    kimmie, my goodness you poor thing. what a miserable time you have had. Maybe they can try Taxotere? When do you meet with your onc again? Sending good thoughts to you

  • havingfaith
    havingfaith Member Posts: 93
    edited September 2012

    Kimmie- I am so sorry, was this your first tx with taxol?  My prayers are out to you.

  • StephanieJM
    StephanieJM Member Posts: 78
    edited September 2012

    Hi Kimmie, You need to get some answers from your onc ASAP.  Not sure if this was your first treatment with taxol, but I remember with mine they gave it very slowly, plus several other pre treatment drugs.  Call your onc immediately, do not let this set on your mind..... you need this and there is an answer.  I am praying for you.  Give us an update ASAP.  

  • steelersluver
    steelersluver Member Posts: 112
    edited September 2012

    KeepMoving, I have asthma and seem to get pneumonia every winter after getting a cold that turns bad.  I've had the vaccine and I get flu shots, but it only prevents some pneumonia, not all of them.  I think it prevents the viral, but not the bacterial....or is it the other way around?  

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited September 2012

    having faith - I go on the SUMMER 2012 RADS HANGOUT board every so often to get a feel for what to expect. 

    kimmie- I'm so sorry to hear about your bad experience.  I hope your MO has a good solution for you.

    I have been feeling kind of down and not able to make myself feel celebratory about only having one more chemo.  I just keep thinking, "But then I have to start rads."  I know everyone says it's easier then chemo and I want to feel good about putting chemo in my past.  My lack of hair is getting to me also.  I'm so tired of being bald. I'm sorry to be a downer, especially when I think of what Kimmie just went through,Stephanie having to do rads 100 miles away and Tammie getting pneumonia.  I feel like I need a reality check.  Things really aren't that bad for me.

  • KeepMoving
    KeepMoving Member Posts: 112
    edited September 2012

    Havingfaith, Thanks for the reminder about living one day at a time.  I was going by that, too, but not going a great job of that right now.  The stress is getting to me.  

    StephanieJM, hope you aren't in any pain any more.

    Kimmie0247, I hope they can find out what the problem. is.  I think StephanieM's right and maybe they just have to adjust your pre-meds.

    Steelersluver, I asked about the pneumonia vaccine, because I thought it might be a good idea to have one since I would be having a compromised immune system.  I had bacterial, so I guess that probably wouldn't have helped anyway.  Glad your mouth sores are better.

    Marcia1111, I will be finished with Taxol the week after you.  It seems to have really gone by fast and I feel as if I've skipped one.  I think that I should be feeling more upbeat, too, but I keep thinking, surgery's next.  Same thoughts as you.  Maybe it's typical.  Seems never-ending.  Have to do a lot of self-talk and try to get myself out of this!

    God Bless everyone.  Have a good Sunday.  

  • Kimmie0247
    Kimmie0247 Member Posts: 38
    edited September 2012

    Onc is out of town for the next week. Will not be able to see her again until my next treatment day. She left the day before my treatment to go out of town for week. I did talk to her associate and he listened very patiently, but also said he had never had anyonr have a reaction the way i did to tgr Taxol, especially on the 2nd treatment. 1st treatment caused the blood clot. :( They did slow infusion rate down so I could finish it for that day. I only have 2 treatments left. I'm going to speak to her about Taxotere, but I hear it's from the same family as Taxol. I don't know what to do.

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited September 2012

    Keep Moving - Thanks.  It's good to know I'm not alone in feeling this way.

    Kimmie - I hope your MO can help you.

  • StephanieJM
    StephanieJM Member Posts: 78
    edited September 2012

    Kimmie- I can't help but wonder if anxiety played a role in your infusion problems.   Maybe a panic attack?  I think of myself as pretty level but there have been times when my heart raced or slowed down unexplained.  Your body is going through so much right now and expecially during the infusion.  They gave me a lot of benydril the first infusion and then cut it down the second one, not sure what it is for but it sure relaxed me!!  Nurse said I did well on the first one so they cut it down.  Ask them about it!!

    Marcia - I am just about a week behind you  and feel we share so much in common.  Honestly, I have been so exhausted and legs ache so bad..... I have no idea how you girls work and manage a family.  I was just laying on the bed yesterday thinking how blessed I was that I don't work or deal with family right now.  Also, keep in mind your hormones are so mixed up right now that can add to your feeling down, plus all the other stuff going on in our bodies.  I keep a chart, have from the beginning.... today is day 90 for me startng chemo and I have 26 more to go...... sure sounds better than when it was 26 and 90 more to go!!!  I know what you mean about "just wanting it to be over", we can see an end to chemo but then have radiation coming at us.  At least radiation is shorter and hopefully not nearly as bad.

    I was so disappointed as we had planned to take a trip to sunny San Diego during my month between chemo and rads, but my husband feels I am just too weak, and hate to admit it he is right.... I can barely spend 20 minutes in the store shopping.  I don't want anything to wear me out and get behind on the rads, even a plane flight is not good in my opinion.  So think we will take our travel trailer somewhere around Oregon for a week or so, at least get out of the house. 

    Bless you all, hope you enjoy a wonderful Sunday. It is so good to know we are not alone in this,  Love  Stephanie

  • radioactivegirl
    radioactivegirl Member Posts: 52
    edited September 2012

    So sorry Kimmie!!!  I had an allergic reaction to Taxotere and it was my 2nd one!  They switched me to weekly taxol and so far I have had 1 but am dreading the 2nd one.  I would say talk to your onc or their backup (mine has a backup that covered for her when she was on vacation) and make sure you get answers.  I sent an email to my onc asking what was goign to be different because there was no way I wanted to go through that again!  It was scary, but I think for me it happened so fast that I was more scared after than during.  But definatley get answers and make sure you feel comforatable before you proceed with treatment.  For me, my eosinophils are also high.  After my reaction they didnt continue but told me to come back the next week and that is when I was switched to taxol and had an ok experience even though my eosinophils are still high.  I wish I knew why they were still high - they say normally they are high due to allergies, but they were high before my allergic reaction to taxotere and I have a sinus headache but not the normal symptoms of allergies. 

    Stephanie - so sorry you are not feeling well enough to go to San Diego (I live in Orange County, just a little bit north of there) but a local trip can be a lot of fun.  Sometimes a change of scenery is all you need to feel rejuvinated. 

    Marcia - sorry about not feeling more upbeat about finishing chemo but it is an accomplishment and even though you have rads I hope your mood will improve overall once you can cross one treatment off of your "to do" list. 

    My onc told me that people are more likely to have an allergic reaction to taxotere than to taxol so I dont know what they will do for you - are you weekly or every 2/3 weeks?  maybe changing that, or what premeds did you get?  for taxol I got decadron via iv, benadryl via iv and pepcid via iv.  Althought the nurse said if I tak zyrtec an hour before I can avoid the benadryl iv which I plan on doing because it gave me major restless leg syndromes and I ran a mini-marathon in the recliner just to get the pent up energy out.

  • SLKsMom
    SLKsMom Member Posts: 22
    edited September 2012

    Finished my 4th Taxol this past Thursday. I am officially PFC!!!!



    Anyone know when it's ok to start Biotin?



    Hope everyone has a great week!

  • pamelahope
    pamelahope Member Posts: 534
    edited September 2012

    Keepmoving, Thank you for asking about me. I am PFC and happy about that and then on to surgery. I am not scared of surgery. I am not looking forward to it but accept it. I am still deciding about reconstruction. I have no idea if I am taking on an additional headache.

    I heard everyone talking about radiation. I wish I didn't need it. I am terrified of the long term effects. I am afraid of becoming damaged.

    Kimie, I feel bad about your Taxol trouble. Taxotere is stronger than Taxol. After my first infusion i had pain but minimal to moderate after that. I wonder what you MO will say. I want you to complete treatment though.

    Stephanie, my stamina was really bad and only last week did I recover. My rbc were low but now they are near normal.

    Tammie, I am sorry about pneumonia. I was surprised to learn you still got chemo but glad it was not delayed. Hope you are feeling better.

    Pam

  • steelersluver
    steelersluver Member Posts: 112
    edited September 2012

    Actually I dont' have pneumonia.  I was responding to Keepmoving, who did get it, that I seem to get it every year with my asthma.  I've been lucky so far this year though and hope to keep my infections confined to my feet only! I'm now half way through and looking forward to finishing up as healthy as possible if my kids don't brign those school germs home! Of course I'm a little more nervous about starting taxol reading the problems others are having, but hopefully it will go smoother for me.

    Woo Hoo to Pamelahope and SLKsMom!  It's great to see people in the group finishing up! Hang in there Marcia...you're probably extra tired with going back to work now and that is making it harder....it'll get better! 

  • pamelahope
    pamelahope Member Posts: 534
    edited September 2012

    Tammie, Taxol for me was better than ac. AC takes away your stamina. Taxol causes some achiness. I iced and did not get any neuropathy. With Taxol once day six hit I was able to walk five miles a day!!! Don't worry about it... Pam

  • steelersluver
    steelersluver Member Posts: 112
    edited September 2012

    LOL...since I'll be getting the taxol every week, I'm hoping to be mobile before day 6!  I'll be content with whatever happens so long as it works in the end!

  • ElleBee
    ElleBee Member Posts: 162
    edited September 2012

    Holy cow! I have some catching up to do! Been so busy with school starting for all 4 of us.

    Started AC today. So far it's ok....just super wiped out. Only 3 more infusions. Doc cannot find any of my tumors and is really pleased. My MUGA scan was just fine as well, which is great! I was worried because I was having slight cardiac symptoms. It was a really long day, because not only did I do chemo, but I went straight to an appt at the podiatrist where they ended up removing one of my toenails because it was infected and disgusting. Sheesh!

    I promise to catch up sometime tomorrow. I think about you girls EVERY DAY!!! 

  • stride
    stride Member Posts: 470
    edited September 2012

    I'm in the middle of my fourth round of TAC, and starting to get some muscle fatigue, like the burning feeling of leg muscles that have been on a long hike. I feel it most when standing up from a sitting position. I wish I knew what to expect, whether it will get worse or maybe even improve. And how long will it last after chemo? Will I be dealing with this while in rads? It's not bad, but just wish I knew in advance so I could plan around it. Two more chemo treatments to go.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited September 2012

    Just wanted to say on the taxanes it is unlikely to go from Taxol to Taxotere because Taxotere is considered a harsher drug.  I have seen people go to Abraxane from other taxanes because it has a different delivery system.

  • StephanieJM
    StephanieJM Member Posts: 78
    edited September 2012

    Marcia-  I forgot to add in my "pep talk".... look at it this way.... you are also done with chemo and that means YOUR HAIR WILL BE GROWING BACK!!!!  And no more worrying about your nails discoloring or coming off..... boy those are a couple of mile stones to celebrate!!!   Yippee!!!!

  • Pinkgirl01
    Pinkgirl01 Member Posts: 33
    edited September 2012

    Hi to everyone just wanted to tell u that I ended up in hospital with neutropenia yuck. Had bloods and clinic meeting this week and am due to have treatment on fri. Have been feeling very pissed off with it all !!! Felt like being treated like cattle at the hospital so not happy with them either. I was told that I'm going have to inject myself the day after with nalasta grrrrr not happy with that can anyone tell me if this actually works or could I end up with neutropenia again? Hope this finds everyone bearing up😘

  • stride
    stride Member Posts: 470
    edited September 2012

    Oh no, Pinkgirl! I'm so sorry you had to go to the hospital. Were you not getting Neulasta after your treatments before?

  • allisontom911
    allisontom911 Member Posts: 425
    edited September 2012

    pinkgirl, I had Neulasta after every AC treatment. Did you have an infection to be put in the hospital? I had neutropenia with each AC. It took about a week for my counts to come up. I had neutropenia once with Taxol so far, and I had neupogen since neulasta can only be given every 2+ weeks.

    Sure hope things get better for you. Warm up the neulasta a bit before injecting and do it slowly as that seems to help.

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited September 2012

    I am feeling much better and am ready to take on rads.  Your words of encouragement and support helped so much.  I am 2 1/2  hours into my last Taxol and have my rads simulation appointment on Tuesday.  I can't wait to be all done and for my hair to start growing!

  • havingfaith
    havingfaith Member Posts: 93
    edited September 2012

    Congrats Marcia!!!!! I would have been do yesterday, but I had to take a week off between ac and taxol to get my blood platelets up. oh well, one more week.  I am so happy for you. Im with you on the hair.  I cant wait for it to grow back.  There is a Fall rad group that I have been checking in on. I can't wait to get this over with.

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited September 2012

    havingfaith - I'm looking forward to seeing your PFC post!

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