TriCare denied skin & nipple sparing mastectomy!!!
Beware of TriCare. I was diagnosed with DCIS in Oct 2011. My oncologist strongly endorsed my decision for bilateral mastectomy with nipple and skin sparing. I understood this was a standard of care. My oncologist even said he would recommend the same for his wife if given the same diagnosis.
My surgery for bilat. skin sparing, nipple sparing mastectomy with immed reconstruction (silicone implants) successfully occured Jan 19,2012. I was reassured that my tricare insurance would cover everything. I was doing great five months later when I recvd a bill for over $63,000 from the hospital. I called to find out that the hospital had already appealed twice to tricare but they were not going to cover it. The hospital said tricare had already told them prior to the surgery they would pay if it were medically necessary (which it clearly was). Same story from the oncology surgeon and the plastic surgeon.
Everything I have read shows this type surgery has excellent outcomes yet TriCare (north) still refuses to pay the bills because "in their opinion and the opinion of their reviewers it is not a good procedure". What are my options???
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Tricare (Humana - Tricare South Region) paid for my skin/nip sparing BMX in Nov. 2010. Did your providers not get pre-approval from Tricare before they went ahead with your surgery? Who reassured you that Tricare would cover everything, and did you sign documents that you would assume responsibility for what insurance would not cover? Is Tricare's reason for denial the procedure itself - or its applicability to your diagnosis?
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There is always an appeal process unless you have already exhausted them. Find in writing what standard of care is.
Since we are talking about $63,000, you should see an attorney to at least get a fix on your status.
I so regret you are in this situation. Shyster insurance companies.
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I'm not well versed in insurance issues, but wouldn't Beckydar's surgeon's office and/or the hospital bear some, if not all, of the responsibility if he performed surgery on her and neglected to get the necessary approval -- especially if she was told it was covered?! No one in their right mind would consent to an uncovered $63,000 expense if it wasn't an emergency surgery, nor would I think most doctors or hospitals in this day and age would perform a surgery without being sure the patient had insurance coverage, or detailing the cost and requesting a significant down payment.
It sounds to me like the surgeon's office or hospital office is at fault (whichever one assured you it would be covered), but you probably need to get an attorney who specializes in this sort of problem involved to sort it out for you.
So sorry you're dealing with this mess, but it sounds like your surgeon's office and/or the hospital dropped the ball on this one. Deanna
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My surgery was covered 100% - except Tricare decided not to pay for my oncotype dx test. I did need a million pre-approvals though for everything else!!
genomics send me a letter saying my insurance company would pay, so the oncotype is on genomics!! Not me!
Can you visit a Tricare office to discuss it? -
Write your own letter and make sure you send a copy of that letter to your Senator or Congressman (cc it at the bottom of the letter)! If you keep plugging away at them there is a good chance that they will pay... But you must act now and you have to be forceful... By the way, insurance companies are known for totally disgarding anything you say to them that is NOT in writing.. Make sure you keep the request for appeal within their alloted time frame (found on your insurance package paperwork)... if it is already outside their time frame be prepared to justify why it is late - (example - you thought it had already been accepted and paid, you would have expected a notification from the insurance compay, you were told on the phone that it would be covered etc..) My insurance turned me down on everything except the most minimum of services but I had them reverse things after I was taken care of and they did eventually pay for everything - including some items I would have expected them to balk at... I think it was the cc to my Congressman that did the trick in my case. Good luck and keep trying to push it back on them for as long as the hospital will allow..
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I looked up standard of care set by the gov't's National Institutes of Health, National Cancer Institute and it says:
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/treatment/breast/HealthProfessional/page4
Treatment Options for Patients With DCIS
Breast-conserving surgery and radiation therapy with or without tamoxifen.
Total mastectomy with or without tamoxifen.
Breast-conserving surgery without radiation therapy. A large national clinical trial by the Radiation Therapy Oncology Group (RTOG-9804) comparing breast-conserving surgery and tamoxifen with or without radiation therapy was closed due to poor accrual, and results are pending.I put the link in for you so you can look it up. Perhaps you could use that in your fight against the machine. Also, it mentioned a Van Nuys Prognostic Index. I have read of a number of people using that. Maybe you could try to plug your information into that and see what it says? Also, your oncologist and surgical team should be going to bat for you, since they recommended the surgery in the first place. Get the info from the ins. company. Get copies of letters/emails/faxes that they sent to your clinic so you can see the dates that they gave them the denial letters. Get copies of ALL communications between them from both the insurance and clinic/hospital. Look up standard of care at Komen, The American Cancer Society, MD Anderson,the National Institute of Health.
If you haven't already, get copies of your medical records. If you haven't looked over all your pathology reports, do so.
Keep a notebook with dates, times, witnesses of all phone calls/communications.
Arm yourself with ALL the information you can.
I sued a former employer for wrongfull termination and won. My lawyer had to do very little, since I did all the fact finding (which saved me money owed him as well).
I hope you beat the pants off of them!
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Cinnimon's advice is good advice. I would also like to suggest that when you speak to anyone over the phone, get their name. Always ask and write it down. May as well ask their position with the company too.
Getting all these details leaves the company little room to hide.
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I think there are two separate issues here, the mastectomy for DCIS and the prophylactic mastectomy of the other breast.
A MX is accepted as a standard treatment option for DCIS. There should be no problem in getting this approved.
The one that insurance companies often balk at is the prophylactic mastectomy of the healthy breast. This procedure is not "medically necessary" and that's what they often hang their hat on. However, my understanding is that it is U.S. Federal law that insurance companies must pay for procedures on the contralateral breast that are required for symmetry purposes.
The problem in your case may be that separate approvals were not received in advance for each procedure (the MX and the PMX) and because they've been billed together, nothing is being approved. You can fight this, but you may need to get approval of the MX first (this should be the easier one - they have no grounds on which to deny this payment) and then once that's approved, you can fight for the second MX on the grounds of it being symmetry surgery.
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Part of the issue here is the specific insurance plan the OP has. This is military insurance and it is very specific in what they cover, and how coverage is handled. If the OP has the same plan that I have all prodecures done by anyone other than the PCP require an initial referral from that PCP. The referral is submitted and the procedure is approved in advance. She should have received a copy of the approved referral in the mail (separate ones for her breast surgeon, her plastic surgeon, and the hospital) prior to the procedure being performed. It was the responsibility of the surgeon's staff to obtain the referral for coverage, and it is their bad that this was not done, particularly if they reassured her it had been taken care of. I find it surprising that these docs would go ahead and operate if it was not clear where their reimbursement was coming from. I have had a lot of surgery, as you can see by my sig line - there were approvals in place for every one or they would not have operated, and I made sure I had the written referrals in hand prior to showing up for surgery. I even had an emergency surgery and the plastic surgeon's staff got a stat referral prior to the surgery - they had about 30 minutes to do it. I also had skin/nip sparing and my left breast was "prophy" so my surgery was for the same reasons as the OP and Tricare paid. My Mammaprint was denied, on the basis that Tricare considers this "experimental" even though it has FDA approval. The breast surgeon's office did not get the approval for it, although the biopsy was approved. I did not sign anything saying I would pay if insurance denied it, so Agendia and my BS ate that bill. Tricare had paid $61 in handling costs only, so I called Agendia and asked for an Assignment of Benefits form which states that they will accept what insurance pays and write off the rest, I filled it out and faxed it back so all they got was that $61. Tricare also will not pay for BRCA testing under any circumstances as of 2011. I have diagnosed LE and they pay for my PT but will not pay for my sleeves.
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TriCare will pay for the genetic testing. They paid for mine 2012, they just changed it so it was a challenge but I got it done.
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I had a breast reduction and they denied me 2 times. Finally got it approved after a year. I had my breast reduction in 08/2010 on 10/20/2010 my PS called me into his office and told me the biopsy of my tissue showed DCIS stage 3 I took it like a champ while I was in his office and called my husband right away as he was in training at the time to head off to Afghanistan. While I did the tomaxafin treatment and was not liking how it mad me feel. By 01/2011 I had the same procedure you did. It was the fastest referral I had gotten and I didn't have to pay a dime. Now my husband is retired and tricare/humana works different. I'm in Texas and no surgeon what's to fix my abdominal wall that is week and hurts everyday so I got a referral to see the original PS in California to fix this and see if they can do the revision of my breast. Since my 1st surgery I have lost over 20 pounds and my breast look flat. I had the tram flap surgery. I'm just hoping tricare/humana covers it or that I only have to pay the 25%. Good luck in getting it approved. Idk why it wasn't approved in the first place.
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