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  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited August 2012

    I think, not sure, that garynull la broadcast is sunday nights?? perhaps 8 to 3??

    the natural works slowly.  if the cancer or whatever has been comming on for many years, you probably need many years of therapies.

    why I'm still alive 2.  of course it really can't be known what helps & what hurts.  but I juice now 3 times what I used to every day

    had a bad night while at the studio & I'm really pretty sure now the bad times come when the weather is bad. it wS A STRONG RAIN STORM. (& WE REALLY NEEDED THE RAIN), & IT MAKES ME THINK THAT THAT BAD TOME WHEN i ATE A LOT OF NOT WELL ENOUGH COOKED RED BEANS, THAT THERE WAS A RAIN-THUNDERSTORM THAT TIME TOO, SO PERHAPS THE BEANS WEREN'T THE PROBLEM. (i WOULDN'T SAY THE SAME FOR JUICING FENNEL, IF YOUR HRMONE SENSITIVE DONT'T DO IT.) SO THINKING A BEAN MEAL SOON. 

  • HLB
    HLB Member Posts: 1,760
    edited August 2012

    Essa, thank you> I agree you probably have to do the big doses of whatever alternative you are using. I think I am doing that with the maitake as I am taking a little over 100 mg> if I understand the studies that is the dose used to be effective based on my weight. actually 27 drops but I do about 30 for good measure. the rest of the stuff I am doing I figure it can't hurt. Turmeric is one thing I have a lot of faith in and I am taking 1800 mg but thinking maybe I should double that.

    What is the website for this Gary person? he seems very knowledgable and I would like to check it out.

    also, can anyone shed light on the baking soda "cure"? I don't want to sound stupid but I see peole saying it's dangerous and others saying it really works. I really don't trust quackwatch as they debunk EVERYTHING and I don't see how that is helpful because there are a lot of legit alternatives, maybe not to use as alternatives but to compliment treatment. Thanks!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    HLB - bot bco is active today, I keep trying to get to work and reading more coments and commenting.  hahaha, I don't mind.

    The baking soda cure IS dangerous.  It can deplete the potassium that cause muscles to work properly and this in turn can stop your heart.  Period.   So in taking, one needs potassium supplementation for one, to use the non-aluminum for another.  To only take the amount needed, I do not know exactly and would not say anyway.  I suggest a more complete guideline that is on cancer t u t or d ot co m .  That guy is somewhat off the wall in some txs but he has great knowledge, so careful over there.  He does not get paid for anything and 'counsels' about 2500 cancer people each year without playing doctor, a very fine line, but he does have the info on baking soda that he has gleaned from great amounts of research, all of it down to a page and he has included it in quite a few protocols that the researchers for alternatives have followed actual cancer people who are using.  Does it work? Don't know, but I do know that it is included in protocols over there still and many choices are pulled.  If you cook it right, it mixes and stays mixed and you have to not burn it.  The maple syrup must be a special dark grade and organic too.  Everything organic.  Was this the way the original doctor who developed or discovered it made it?  Don't know.  The story is that in a family w bc, one sister did not get it and she was sipping the baking soda and maple syrup combination every day, do not even know why she made it or had that combination in her home, was it to bake with? make moonshine? I don't know hahaha, but the doc put two and two and started getting people w cancer to try it and sure enough some went into remission so to speak. Some probably didn't.  But the doc took heat from the FDA so to me that means a lot, I read between the lines esp after so many real tx were shut down.  Hope this helps.

    LOVEEssa

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited August 2012

    garynull.com.....................difficult sometimes to find stuff there, the articles need the magnifier.  again he's best, ie wonderful & delightful in his broadcasts:  is books have a great deal of information, & his videos.  those were great on pbs but the they nixed them now there are conventional medicine shows there with pharm ads..........gary has promoted baking soda, as I recall with those additives:  potassium.....I forget, non aluminum surely, baking soda being vv alkaline & alkalinity vv good

  • Natkat
    Natkat Member Posts: 75
    edited August 2012

    Hi Essa, et al,

    I got the lymph tea from my ayurvedic doctor - no idea of ingredients.  But i will be asking him on next appointment as that bothered me.  But maybe it is his secret?

    I never thought of pau d'arco with reference to cancer. I used it for antibiotic in past. My cat once had a terrible infection and the vet said she would die and I should put her down.  I made him give me antibiotics and then I took her home and dosed her MASSIVELY on pau'd'arco extract AND antibiotics.  The cat lived to be 17, killing birds and hating my dog till the end.Wink

    Can't say yet how well the ayurvedic stuff is working.  But the other day I felt huge amounts of anger surfacing and pretty sure this is liver detoxification.  I took a suana and after sweating-out the anger - just cried and cried.  I guess grief is underneath the anger.  But my father just passed so I have been crying a lot anyway.  But I do think physical and mental detoxification go hand in hand. 

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited August 2012

    yes, & I do wonder if the "bad nights" are the trouble getting better or worse or just on the move??

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2012

    NatKat - good to know about the liver detox, am in middle of one now.  Each day for 3 days drinking one quart of organic apple juice.  Tomorrow and Thursday, the epsom salts and grapefruit juice.  OMG, will be a trip.  Will be doing this once a month until all the calcifications and bile and gallstone like thingees are expelled, then every two months.  And now I realize it will also be a detox of anger and pain.  I believe liver detox needs to be mandatory for all tx in allopathic and naturopathic levels for cancer.

    Endocrinologist follow up today.  Will have a lot of hormone info to post soon, here and on the hormone threads and nat girls.... but now need to get to bed.  I promised me, me bed by 10:30 and now it is 10:53, darn it.  Off I go, that too is for healing.

    BUT I did ask him about the red raspberry / black raspberry tx I am doing and the estrogens --- he said the phytoestrogens wil help because those will fill the cell receptors for estrogen so the body's estrogen cannot use it.  I was much relieved.  And the raspberry is still proving to make me feel much better.

    ETA::: Had to stay up to take care of a customer thing and found this link in my email, good reading.....  Hitting Cancer from All Sides - because it is a disease that mutates, we must take on different forces to keep it from coming back, essentially that is what it says, with specifics.

    http://www.lef.org/news/LefDailyNews.htm?NewsID=14570&Section=DISEASE&utm_source=DailyHealthBulletin&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Disease&utm_content=Body+ContinueReading&utm_campaign=DHB_120821 

    LOVEEssa

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
    edited September 2012

    Natkat said:
    "I took a suana..."

    Be careful my dear, this is a lymphedema risk.  Just saying.

    Take Care

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2012

    You know what else is a LE risk?  Tornadoes.  And derecho straightline wind storms.  Since surgery I have been in two tornadoes and two derecho storms and my arm blew up all times, was so painful.  When the pressure went down in weather after a few days, then my arm went down, augh.  I didn't know about the sauna, but sure it is.

    LOVEEssa

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited September 2012

    yes. definitely!!  I know for certain now that a falling barometer will cause me pain & "discomfort" & ahen the barometer begins to rise again the trouble eases.

    more later, probably, after gary at noon 

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited September 2012

    why I'm still alive #3:  gary says homeopathy does work if you get an experienced homeopath to give you a protocall, which I lucked out, amazingly, & got.  I googled homeopaths & got answer or ask.com forget which, & didn't realize it for a long time.  but I got an experienced naturopath who gave me a protocall I still use:  for over a year now.  I was in contact with her directly after the family reuinion was over.  last september, I guess for about a year.  she gave me 2 remedies:  one for caugh & sore throat, one for cough & skin erruptions.  they made no sense to me until recently, I guess those are place where mestastasies are likely to occurr.  2 cups of green tea a day, & a 45 minute castor oil pack a week.

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
    edited September 2012

    abigail

    You said:
    "why I'm still alive #3:  gary...."

    Did I miss something?  Have you actually been DX with cancer ?

    Is it not possible you are still alive because you dont have cancer ? ( I hope this is the case)

      Maybe I have missed  something somewhere along the way (?)

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited September 2012

    Abigail, you don't know if you have cancer or any other life threatening condition. Maybe you're alive because you are healthy! If so, congratulations!

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited September 2012

    you've apparently not missed anything.  I'm posting this series, why am I still alive, because one said I couldn't have ibc because I'd be in too much pain to do all the things I say I do, & another said it couldn't be ibc because I was still alive.

    why I'm still alive next installment:  pissing.  can I say that here, I dislike latinate words, well making water then.  I make water probably up to 12 times a night.  It;s all clear, no sign of blood or like that, because of all the re hydration I do each day, the 2 cups of mega green tea, the up to 24 ounces of fresh vegetable-fruit juice a day.  I hope it exudes (free radicals?) that have soughed off becuse of the things I do to keep well 

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
    edited September 2012

    I  would echo what yorkie mom said- perhaps you are still alive because you are ' well'!

    I would focus on all the good things that go along with being well and steer clear of worrying about death since you have not  been dx with anything at all!

    Best wishes you you, Abigail!

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited September 2012

    when I was at the studio last week i measired the spot.  It's one spot now & has been for many months.  the place on the left, the 2nd place that appeared a year ago, is 2 and a forth inches by one inch.  the place on the right is 2 inches.  the middle hollow is a half an inch.  without a callaper I cant measure the heighth of the accumulated sheets, & as I forgot centemeters was the prefered way of noting such things, the tape I have here doesn't note metrics. the color is pretty bright & very shiny.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited September 2012

    You're not a doctor abigail. You don't know what's going on. Sounds like you are very healthy and, again, congrats about that. Why not celebrate your good health instead of trying to find imaginary illnesses?

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited September 2012

    if you think it could be something else, let me know what.

    "imaginary illnesses"  I think I'v not mentioned the time I recovered brom lockjaw.  @ 1964 perhaps.  I did go to bellview for this, no one told me what it was I I was too sick to name it, the docktors crowded around to see that I couldn't open my jaw more than a small bit.  they wanted to sign me into the hospital, but I was a heroin addict & I couldn't let myself be admitted.  they gave me anti-bioticws, I took them all & went back for more.  I survived that one by puching the oysters from cambell's oyster chowder with my fingers into my mouth.

     I thought I'd gotten it from taking out rusty staples from a headboard I'd found on the street to use as a shelf.  but now I think it was probably the needle, though I always boiled it after use, 20 minutes.  perhaps it was both.

    why I'm still alive #5:  genes?  I seem to have good results with fatal illnesses.  the tetanus was I think concidered fatal at the time though I think it no longer is 

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited September 2012
    I don't think it is "anything else." I think you are currently healthy. You have given no evidence otherwise. Certainly you do not have confirmed breast cancer.
  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited September 2012

    well it's certainly something.  It sometimes, often now I think, causes pain & "discomfort"  the kind of discomfort which is really worse than pain which is specific for ibc.

    #6 why I'm still alive.  I sleep a great deal, up to more than 12 hrs a night, that includes though the time I'm up making water 

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited September 2012

    Have a good evening abigail. You are one of the lucky, physically healthy ones on this board. 

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited September 2012

    well there are other things wrong I've mentioned, I am 75,

    & not for doing nothing am I still alive, doing nothing with conventional medical people very probably.   

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited September 2012

    My bs-o-meter is broken. The needle hit the max side so hard that it crashed through the glass, hit the people in the next table and tore a hole in the ground.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited September 2012
    Athena, Laughing ! 
  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited September 2012

    Ladies,

    It has long been established that abigail won't seek a formal dx. No amount of badgering will get her to do so. I consider this to be totally ill advised as I believe most people would. Given that we all know this, what is the point in revisiting the subject as nauseum?

    Caryn

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited September 2012

    I have a relative, also brca+.  She was the first in our generation to get BC (both of our mothers had BC).  I can't believe how differently she views her treatment!  I give her credit for demanding an US when she had breast pain, and consequently found her tumor at 6 mm.  It was ER+.  She did a LUMP/with RADS, but she feels the cancer grew because of menopause so now takes bioidentical hormones (she subscribes to the Suzanne Somers philosophy, I guess)!!!  It is interesting that the females in our family all were dx with BC, peri-menopause to menopause, but this tactic seems like gambling. To her credit, she does say she might not live long, but she will have QOL.  I wouldn't mind her any of your reactions to this course of action. (She is 2 years out from dx and treatment.)

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited September 2012

    How is congratulating someone on their good health considered "badgering"? 

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited September 2012

    I won't even go there since I have no desire to see this issue flare up again. Caryn

  • NattyOnFrostyLake
    NattyOnFrostyLake Member Posts: 377
    edited September 2012

    We are so blessed to have Abigail here sharing her story and insights. Abigail, I always look for your posts because you carry such a sense of peace with you. I admire you, living every day as it comes.

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