Bonfire of the Goddesses

Happy birthday Chabba. I am sorry to hear about your brother. Life is so bittersweet. We are obligated to celebrate the good things that life has to offer while being thoughtful that sometimes life sends us a curve ball and it is those good things in life that gives us the fortitude to handle those curve balls. Celebrate your birthday!!!! And many good wishes for many more happy occasions!

Granny,Used to love reading studies which ranged from the sublime i.e over the top educational and well done, to the stupid i.e the stethocsope one. The stupid ones were for amusement. Normal immune systems can handle bugs__bacteria/viruses, weakened or non exposed immune systems can be overwhelmed. Think of popualtions dessimated to the exposure of new bugs. The Americas indigent populations and measles.

One of the major problems that has been created by the over use of antibacterial agents is the creation of bug resistance. These are the Superbugs. Mrsa and Mrse being the most commonly known. What will eventually happen is normal immune systems will learn to live with bugs that are resistant to anti bx's. One of the examples, that has already occured is in the treatment of bacteria randomly found in urine samples. the thinking now is to not treat them if the person shows no symptoms. i.e no frequency , burning, urgency locally. Also, no systemic signs of movement into the bodies circulation which would be eveidenced by fever, chills, malaise, to shock state. Systemic symptoms in this case are called Urosepsis and can lead to death. Up until recently say 5years- random bacterial findings in urine analysis(UA) was treated agressively. It was deterrmined the treatment could be worse than the cure. Outcome: if the bacteria is not bothering the patient , doctors do watchful waiting for sign/symptoms that indicated the body is not dealing with the bacteria.

We live with many bacterias on our skin Some are called resident bacteria and the others are called transient bacteria. We live with many bacteria inside of us, particularly, in the gastrointestinal tract from mouth to anus.

I perfer that some one do a thorough wash with soap and water for the yankee -doodle length of time_sing the song versus the use of the alcohol based and other stuff for such a brief period of time b/c there isn't the strong mechanical action of the longer wash. Science may like the stats now, but I believe it's a setup for more resistant bugs in the future.

 All items--everything has bugs on them. Students of many disciplines have to produce projects as part of completion of different studies. That's why we hear so much about bugs on this and that.

What we have to do is choose to pay attention to is what will affect us. Handwashing, clean practioner clothing, wiping their stethocope, no ties, no nailpolish/fake nails on nurses and cna's working with patients, Bp cuffs not used patient to patient--each patient given a new cuff at hospital entry and disposed of at discharge, disposaple phones, no water pictures--bottled water that the container can be disposed of when empty, disposable food trays and implements, disposable mop heads so bugs aren't taken room to room, Private rooms only--no mixing of population, disposable pens, Linen containers in each room-so contaminated linen isn't taken into a common hall., A sink at entry to all rooms to allow practioners the ability to not use the patient sink. Deisgns that allow entry to rooms that reduce touchingknobs /handles. Disposable EKG leads, in-hospital Cell phone decontamination. multiple shift decontam of medication administration dispensing books/ machines, computer keyboards, charts.Much of this has been worked on in the last ten years.

In the 70's it was decreed that many items had to become individual use disposable items. At one time urinary catheters/ bed pans/basins were reprossed just to mention few. But over time b/c of lack of knowledge about sterile, clean/contaminated, clean, contaminated dirty, and so dirty that isolation techniques were needed. Superbugs evolved. Many of the things mentioned in the previous paragraph have or are being instituted. The sentence about sterile to isolation dirty is huge. If all practioners had a true understanding of that one sentence, we would not have the superbugs of today or at least not the prevalence.

This is long, hope I didn't loose readers. All this info, can reduce morbidity(illness) and mortality(death)

The common component to all is proper cleaning. An understanding by each of us, as patients, may save us from illness and death.

Chabba---Happy Happy birthday.I wish this new birthday year bring you everthing that you want thats ALL GOOD.

When I was a kid whenever my mom brought watermellon,cantelope or honeydew she had a scrub rush and she washed them with soap.also potatoes...im talkin way way back when you never heard of this...and i thought she was a dumb foreigner..yeah right.now i buy in whole foods a fruit and veg.spray cleaner and then rinse well.im gettin to the point that i dont know right from wrong.....becoming a fanatic is not too good for the stress level...

once again im throuing komen,the pink shit and foctober into the fire.

Chabba, Happy Birthday! I have a purple Ford Escort. Definitely not as cool as a vette. I hope hospice is able to make your brother's remaining time as pleasant as possible. They were wonderful with my Mom.

THIS circus and it's merry-go-round is going in the fire today...Enjoy the long holiday weekend dear goddesses! Next week will be here soon enough!

Chabba- dear one, may all that you believe in come to you and the family at this time and give you comfort. May your dear brothers soul rest in peace. May the whole family gather in joyful memory of his life.  sassy

posted on another thread Friday night vodlka and tonic- and angry

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The worst thing in the USA medical research history was the limits put upon stem cell research. We have the greatest research capabilities of the world, the greatest application skills--yet it could be turned off by one person. Our President. Set us back by years, b/c he had a a belief. Clucik'em. Stem cell research is the future. IT IS THE BEGIINING OF THE END TO DISEASES THAT CAN BE CONTROLLED. Science research should not be controlled or limited by the government----or one person---the second George will go down in history as being really stupid about this one question, not withstanding the war. But his stupidity about limiting scientific research just was stupid

SAS, tell me how you REALLY feel....!

Joan811--welcome---the Sweet fire is burning, pull up a log rest awhile and lets watch the sparks fly to the skies and the twinkling stars HMMMMMMMMM

Chabba---so sorry for the loss of your brother

may he rest in peace

Aending healing thoughts to you and your family.

Chabba,
I cannot say it any better than SAS (sassy)....I am so sorry to hear of your loss, and I hope that you find some comfort in your family memories. 

Linda, wishing you a great report.

Hugs to all,
Joan

Thank you Essa.  Sorry about the bee sting.  Those can really hurt.

Been at the sweet fire but came here to toss in my appendix that was removed Monday.

Also the large cyst on my ovary that the CT scan picked up, that we are going to watch.

Crap.

Chabba, sorry to hear about your brother.

Linda, sorry to read about a malignancy found report.

Sending everyone love and gentle ((hugs))