April/May 2012 Chemo hang out

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  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited August 2012

    You definitely are not alone!  I have the dry issues (thanks chemopause), finally got some Replens.  I'm trying to get it in my system for a few weeks before we try.  It says to use it every 3 days or more if you feel you need it more frequently.  I started out at 3, but quickly discovered that's not enough.  Working on every other day now to see if that will be enough to keep the sahara desert from coming back.

    Libido is there, just worried about the lubrication.  I'm almost 11 weeks PFC, but almost 1 year post BMX, so have gotten past the surgery/not comfortable with body aspect...well...I still wear a shirt, so guess I can't say I'm 100% comfortable with it!  However, I am much better than I used to be.

    LyndaMarie - huge congrats on being PFC!!!!!!!!!! 

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited August 2012

    Cottontail - wishing you the best with the EKG - keep us posted!  

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012
    Cottontail- Hope your EKG results look good.  I'm 3 weeks PFC and my head is starting to blossum with more fuzz.  Hopefully your hair will start to emerge soon!!!!
  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited August 2012

    LyndaMarie:  Yay, yay, yay!  Doing a happy dance for you!  COngrats!

  • chapter4
    chapter4 Member Posts: 155
    edited August 2012

    I'm 6 weeks PFC today! Hair is growing every day....I kept my eyelashes and eyebrows throughout until about two weeks ago. I couldn't believe it. Good news is...both are now showing new growth. And I've shaved my legs twice! Ahhhh the little things.

  • LyndaMarie
    LyndaMarie Member Posts: 92
    edited August 2012

    Feeling alright given the last chemo was 5 days ago. Feels like a month ago to be honest. In my head I am done but my body is still not quite there. Vicodin for bone pain meant I slept well last night. I am very encouraged by the idea of hair growth and normal taste buds!!! Did anybody else struggle with dry, burning eyes? I think chemo has wrecked my eyesight. Road signs are getting hard to read.

    Cottontail - hoping for good EKG results.

    My PA recommended replens. I hope it works [for me and all]!!!

    Good day to all...

  • BikerLee
    BikerLee Member Posts: 355
    edited August 2012

    Hi Lynda!!!!  Glad to hear you're doing alright!  And yes - dry eyes were terrible during my AC treatments. Started to resolve a couple of weeks after the last one. 

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited August 2012

    Vision changes are common during chemo.  My onc said usually it returns to normal within a few months PFC. 

  • Husker123
    Husker123 Member Posts: 101
    edited August 2012

    When I got my eyes checked a couple of weeks ago, the Dr. had a long talk with me about how chemo affects your eyes. He said after the chemo infusion, your eye muscle that can usually go a long time before getting tired, just gives up. That's why we feel so foggy & can't concentrate on anything. He also showed me models of the lens in our eyes & what chemo does to it. That's why we feel like we can't see well one day & then better the next. It was really interesting! I'm glad he took the time to explain it so well even if I am done with chemo. He also told me I had no lasting effects from it!

  • LyndaMarie
    LyndaMarie Member Posts: 92
    edited August 2012

    Glad to hear the vision info. It makes me optimistic that soon the burning and dryness will end. I will not forget to appreciate that my eyes feel good when they finally do.!!

  • Ashlyn
    Ashlyn Member Posts: 141
    edited September 2012

    Hi ladies!

    I was actively posting during my chemo treatments (started April 3 - Last day July 10 AC/T every 2 weeks) but kinda took a break from the message board for awhile as we were in the middle of a move.

    I thought I would pop in here cause I wanted to see how others are fairing after completing treatment. Wondering if what is going on with me is normal as well. It's been 50+ days now since my last treatment and I am still feeling so sluggish and sore. Actually, I am almost more sore and achy now than DURING chemo. My knees hurt so badly... joints hurt, I have dull chest pains and am overall not really bouncing back as soon as I thought I would. I am trying not to worry (obviously my mind fears the worst) but am curious to see how others are doing after finishing? My MO seemed a bit surprised but was not worried when I told her all of this.

    So yes... just curious about how everyone else is feeling. Hoping my aches and pains are normal. Hoping everyone is doing alright!

    Much love to all. xoxo 

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited September 2012

    HI Ashley:  Will be finishing radiation on friday. So far, so good. A litle sore/redness, a little tired in the evening, but okay.  My joints are a little sore, but am trying to combat that with weight-bearing exercise.  Actually, I need to go right now to the gym instead of sitting here making excuses!

  • chapter4
    chapter4 Member Posts: 155
    edited September 2012

    Ashleyb. I finished the same chemo treatment as you on July 17.....I was in pretty good shape going in...I was training for a half marathon when diagnosed.....I walk now instead of run....about 3 miles 5 times a week.....i have a lot of aches and soreness. Mostly during the night....my legs ache so much it keeps me awake....my lower back will randomly get sore during the day.

    Im trying to figure it out....is it because of the walking? It seems I should be able to do that without a problem.



    The worst part is I feel I've aged so much....after sitting for more than 20 minutes I go to get up and I walk like I'm 88 instead of 48 It takes a bit to not feel stiff when walking.



    I too wonder If this is normal. I too thought I would have bounced back better.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited September 2012

    I am almost 3 months PFC.  I noticed my hands/thumbs ache in the joints at times now - never did before.  I'm sure this is arthritis coming about (I used my hands extensively in my career).  I wonder if estrogen helps keep the joints limber longer, and now that I am in chemopause, I don't have that protection.  ?

    Update for all on the Replens and sex issue.  Had sex for the first time since before chemo the other night.  It definitely was uncomfortable - but improved quite a bit after things "stretched out".  We kept it short to avoid too much friction and irritation.  (Hoping this isn't TMI and is helpful to others.)   Hoping the "use it or lose it" theory from my gyn works and that subsequent encounters get easier and easier.  I have hope! 

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited September 2012
    dancetrancer-Thanks for sharing.  I appreciate your candidness about the part of our lives that we all have had to take a time out from.  I share the same hope as you!!!!!
  • nofear2012
    nofear2012 Member Posts: 160
    edited September 2012

    I too am feeling run down, not much different from chemo. But I was told that until I am done w radiation my body really will not start healing & I will feel a difference. I don't have too many aches & pains just really tired.

  • nofear2012
    nofear2012 Member Posts: 160
    edited September 2012

    My emotions are the hardest to manage. I feel so overwhelmed & daily treatments are demanding. I just keep thinking one day at a time & try not to think farther than then the day.

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited September 2012
    Dance:  Thanks for the info.  Embarassed
  • chapter4
    chapter4 Member Posts: 155
    edited September 2012

    Dance....thanks....the intamacy issue is a huge part do recovery for me....just want everything back to how it was.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited September 2012
    Me too chapter4.   So many losses we face with this beast, and this one just seems extra cruel.  Frown  But I still have hope, and it was better than expected!  It was embarrassing for me to write those details out, but I don't think we should suffer alone with side effects, no matter how personal.  Keeping it to myself somehow would make it worse and a bigger issue, like it's a "bad secret" that can't be talked about.  Hoping my sharing helps others. 
  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited September 2012

    Thanks, Dance.

  • LyndaMarie
    LyndaMarie Member Posts: 92
    edited September 2012

    Dance - Definitely not tmi here. If we can't discuss it here, then where? I am hopeful that mu DH and I will work through this together, I just wish something in this process would be easy!

    I am 10 days PFC and really struggling. I was at the ER yesterday and I have sinus, bladder and yeast infections. My wbc is 1.6 and my hemoglobin is 9. I do NOT have pneumonia or a fever so I was able to come home at least. I also have bad mouth sores for the first time [thought I escaped that SE]. Not only do I have itching from the YI, I also have almost burnlike sores in the area from the chemo. I did well in every other treatment to keep my skin from getting damaged but this time I am a mess. I have very sensitive skin. Any ideas for this SE? I haven't seen it mentioned before.

    On positive note, my heartburn was much less this round and I am able to drink a bit of coffee again. My tongue is still sore but if I put in enough milk I can sit and savor ice coffee!!

  • bcbarbie10
    bcbarbie10 Member Posts: 319
    edited September 2012

    Lyndamarie, i, too, get those sores every now and then. They're just like adult diaper rash. I try to wear loose clothing and cotton underwear. Sometimes i try to wear skirts and girly dresses, avoid wearing jeans and shorts. When they blister, i put an antibiotic cream, mupirocin/bactoban. Try to keep the area clean and dry.



    Dance, so thoughtful of you to post that. Still wondering about how it would be for me from now on. Sad.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited September 2012

    Lyndamarie - hope you feel better soon, you sure do have a nasty combo of SE's to deal with.  I had thrush of the skin that area.  It was like a red rash.  Doc gave me a Nystatin powder to apply.  That could be what is going on, especially since you have a yeast infection.  Uggh.  Feel better soon! 

  • Ashlyn
    Ashlyn Member Posts: 141
    edited September 2012

    Thanks for the feedback all. 

    kjiberty: good for you for getting to the gym! Hope it makes you feel better and is helping with your strength. I am a bit afraid to push myself that way... feels so pathetic to be my age and too scared to lift a few pounds.

    chapter4: Great work with the walking!! That's awesome. I feel the same when it comes to getting up after sitting. It takes me a while to get going. My hips hurt like crazy, back aches, knees are the worst. I am trying to not worry about it but it's hard not to.

    Dancetrance: thanks for your candidness. We tried having sex a few weeks ago... but it was unsuccessful Frown It was the first time in over 6 months and I couldnt do it. Hurt way too much. DH was super understanding though of course but it is still super discouraging. 

    Nofear: I too am having a rough go with emotions lately as well. I cry at the silliest things. Good you are not having too many aches though. 

    I wonder too if lack of estrogen makes the pain come out more. I just can't believe how achy and slow I am...it is way worse now than during chemo. I notice my pains right when I wake up in the morning. Evening sitting down on the toilet hurts my legs!! lol... so not cool! I get out for a walk every day...nothing too fast or long. Trying to stay somewhat active but nothing seems to be helping. I think because I feel this way I fear the worst too... I worry there is more wrong with me. 

    Also, anyone have dull on and off chest pains at all after chemo?? I had them during but they are still persisting now. 2 months post treatment I thought things would be getting better by now.  

  • Cottontail
    Cottontail Member Posts: 374
    edited February 2013

    Ashley, what sort of chest pains?  Have you talked to your MO about them?

    I started getting chest pains after my fourth chemo.  (I'm now three weeks PFC.)  Mine are a kind of burning ache on my left side, with occasional pain down my left arm.  I talked it over with my MO, since Adriamycin can cause heart problems, but she decided mine was caused by my chest wall muscles.   I also had an EKG before my surgery a few days ago.  My MO and BS both want me to alert them if my chest pains change or get worse.  The EKG only took a few minutes, and when the results came back fine it gave me a lot of peace of mind.

  • lisa2012
    lisa2012 Member Posts: 652
    edited September 2012

    Dancetancer, appreciate your candor. What is Replens? OTC or prescription? We have managed to do it a few times but just used Astroglide, which we used to use pre-BC . ( being 56 and 6 years ppst menopause) my libido is low, still also getting used to implants (surgery 26 days ago.) as someone above said, it is a bit sad.



    Eyes: I had my annual eye checkup about a month PFC. Seeing OK ( some dry eyes) but increased eye pressure into borderline glaucoma range-20-which it wasn't before!! Getting rechecked in a few weeks. Could it be from chemo? Or getting older!

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited September 2012

    Lisa - Replens is over the counter.  It is different from lubricants in that it is a lubricant + moisturizer.  You use an applicator to insert it (like a tampon).  They advise every 3 days to keep moisture constant, but you can do it more often if needed.  I'm finding I need to do it every 1 to 2 days to replicate how I used to be.  We used K-Y with it for extra lubrication.  I was afraid to try just with the K-Y or Astro type of lubricant alone, after reading about other's experiences.   

    I'm almost a year out from my BMX, so I think I'm more adjusted to my body and ready to move forward/go back to a "normal" sex life, if possible!  

    Sorry to hear about the eyes...eeks!  At least you are on top of it!  I guess it could be chemo, but who knows... 

  • Ashlyn
    Ashlyn Member Posts: 141
    edited September 2012

    Hi Cottontail: I was getting them during chemo as well... my just feels like pressure almost... I mentioned it before but they werent too concerned and said it was because of the chemo and all of the drugs I was on. I think tomorrow I will go see my GP and request an EKG just to have peace of mind too. I notice my chest feels tight and like there's pressure when I am stressed, when I walk and if I get up too quickly. Proably a good idea to get it double checked. Thanks for sharing your experience. 

  • Cottontail
    Cottontail Member Posts: 374
    edited September 2012

    I think it's a good idea to at least mention the chest pains to your doctors. They may not order an EKG, but at least let them know what is going on. Especially since you had adriamycin.

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