June 2012 Mastectomy

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  • me_4givn
    me_4givn Member Posts: 43
    edited August 2012

    Hi my June Friends :)

    I am still in a lot of pain. I will be calling the PS Monday. I am so tender and I am still confused as to why my PS stitched gauze to the outside of my skin on both Frankin-boobs. They look terrible! Gosh, ladies, I am really down over this. What happened?!

    In pain and tearful,

    Jami 

  • loriio
    loriio Member Posts: 247
    edited August 2012

    Whammo! I'm doing good then I get blindsided. I'm taking my son to a new doctor on Wednesday and I had to fill out paperwork. When I got to the family history section I got to the line item that said "breast cancer". I had to check yes. I feel sick to my stomach now. Cancer sucks.

  • luckykitkat09
    luckykitkat09 Member Posts: 190
    edited August 2012

    Last fill! I already feel that I look mad ridiculous! Anyone else?

  • luckykitkat09
    luckykitkat09 Member Posts: 190
    edited August 2012

    Jami-

    How do you feel now??

    Did you find out why they stitched you that way?

  • mariannm
    mariannm Member Posts: 32
    edited August 2012

    kathyhong - I am jealous!  I've got 3 left, the next being next week....hopefully he'll change his mind and I will only have 2 left.   How long before you go into surgery?

  • luckykitkat09
    luckykitkat09 Member Posts: 190
    edited August 2012

    Mariannm-

    Actually I went in and decided not to do another fill after all but I'm doubting if I shouldve done that. I'm still having a hard time imagining the end results with implants. I have a huge gap between my boobs. I like the projection (so far) and all...but the width.

    I don't know if I'll still have that once the implants are in and I'll have that curve (ahhhhhh do hard to explain)..

    I think ive had 4 fills. I don't think I will be a full B/small C.



    My surgery will be in December. I have classes again so I'll wait till my winter break. I wanna wear my tank tops and it looks so weird if I do because of the hollow curve on top on my boobs. I'm at 420cc's.

  • my3sunz42
    my3sunz42 Member Posts: 148
    edited August 2012

    Kathy - Hang in there ... I have the huge gap between my foobs too (am filled to 495 cc, 5'4", 125 lbs - was a large A cup before). Anyway, I had my last fill 3 weeks ago & asked my PS if he can/will correct that when I get my squishies and he said definitely. He explained that they appear like that due to the shape of the TEs (you know, the side boob under the armpit). He said he would do something to move the pockets and give me more cleavage. 

    On a good note, my squishy surgery is scheduled for December 14th ... ahhhhhh ... light at the end of the tunnel :-)

  • luckykitkat09
    luckykitkat09 Member Posts: 190
    edited August 2012

    my3sunz42-

    my side foob is not that bad actually..my exchange surgery might be a week or two after yours..
    i'm 5ft, 90lbs, 420cc, my rib cage is 28


    my surgeon said he'll take fat from my inner thigh to fix the hollow curve on top of the boobs..as for the ''grand canyon'' i'm pretty sure my surgeon will do the same like yours..
    my surgeon said he'll go back and fix the lumpectomy incision from last year around my nipple..
    -sighs-i think the side "foob" gives you the appearance ofa S-line (i hope that makes sense or hourglass?? shape or at least on top lol) but i can see how it can be annoying.

     OH!!!! the numbness under my left armpit under my shoulder blade has faded a lot..my right side eh not so much..i get the burning sensation when i change shirts and my shirt rubs against that area..feels too sensitive :(

  • mariannm
    mariannm Member Posts: 32
    edited August 2012

    Do you know how long recovery takes after the squishy surgery?   It must take a few days I'd imagine, but I've heard its much easier better than the BMX.    I'm going to have to take before and after pictures (with a tank top on).....I'm horrified for the day or 2 following each fill,,  between the side foob and the grand canyon, and I find myself hiding behind layers as much as possible.  

  • luckykitkat09
    luckykitkat09 Member Posts: 190
    edited August 2012

    mariannm-
    i'll be glad to show my pics
    it's probably a few days..my only concern is how long will it take me to lift up my arms after the implant exchange. it took me a month to drive and lift my arms after the bmx..

  • my3sunz42
    my3sunz42 Member Posts: 148
    edited August 2012

    From what I've heard, it takes about a week to recover. Good news for us June Bugs ... it falls right over the holidays, so my surgery is 12/14, week off to recover, then week off for the holidays :-) Ahhhh, I can't wait ... "all I want for Christmas is Squishy Boobs!" 

    Kathy - My PS is going to use my thigh fat to fill some of the grand canyon too - we can compare notes :-)

    Have you given any thought to nipple reconstruction? I'm still on the 'fence' as I just don't want another surgery. 

  • luckykitkat09
    luckykitkat09 Member Posts: 190
    edited August 2012

    my3sunz42-

    Do you mean the whole nipple tattoo? I had nipple sparring so I was able to keep both my nipples...initially I thought that it was a good idea but now it's just weird having to wear a tank top without a bra (I don't at school but at home it's more comfortable for me) since you could see them..it's just akward!!
    I gave it more thought after my bmx though..sad to say I might've wished I had them removed, it would be easier to fix the old lumpecomy scar..but oh well..in December the doctor said they might be able to revise it to make it less noticeable..it's just another step..
    YAY squishy boobs for xmas!!!

  • my3sunz42
    my3sunz42 Member Posts: 148
    edited August 2012

    I'm trying to decide between tatooing (nipple and aereola), surgically create nipples or just skip the whole darn thing. Right  now I'm leaning towards tatooing with a possible visit to Vinnie in NOLA or just skipping the whole darn thing. My nipples weren't spared in surgery and my aerolas look like they are winking ... my left one is large, my right one (cancer infected side) is just a slit. My husband can't wink so I was thinking of leaving my foobs winking at him :-) I know what you mean about wearing a tank top - I have to wear that or a bra to cover the 'lumpy' areas where the scars are. Braless is definitely the most comfortable. 

  • luckykitkat09
    luckykitkat09 Member Posts: 190
    edited August 2012

    I'm curious to know how the tattooing works. Is it just one visit and done? If it was me.. I would just skip to the tattooing. I kind of don't want to be cut open again. I think if you wanted like the "puffy" nipple effect then you could do the surgery. I'll probably post a pic of me wearing a tank looks like. It's just odd looking to see the hollow curve. I don't think you should skip it altogether. It's better to do them now rather than later in life. :)

  • emilybrooke
    emilybrooke Member Posts: 98
    edited August 2012

    Hi June Bugs! I apologize for disappearing on you ladies and feel like I have some catching up to do. I've been hanging out on the July chemo boards comiserating (spelling?) about side effects. I'm glad I popped in today because seeing that several of you are scheduled for the exchange is such exciting news! If my chemo nds on time - last week of October - I am scheduled for my exchange on Dec. 10th. Fingers crossed that all goes well.

    Kathy - My co-worker has the tattoos and they look great! She showed me the outcome of her surgery (1.5 years out) because I am using the same plastic surgeon. The PS does the tattooing in his office and it is one visit. She explained that she was able to pick out the colors and the doctor blended them. I went to a class before surgery about the whole reconstruction process and they went over the various methods that can be used to create nipples. I found it very informative and agree with what you said, after the exchange I don't think I want anymore surgery, so I am opting for the tattoo.

  • my3sunz42
    my3sunz42 Member Posts: 148
    edited August 2012

    Emily - welcome to the December recon group! 

    Kathy - I just ordered some rub on nipples hoping they'll help me make the go / no go decision. Will let you know how they work - I was undecided on the color to select so I ordered a variety pack. Should be interesting. 

  • luckykitkat09
    luckykitkat09 Member Posts: 190
    edited August 2012

    Emily- yeah i think that will be best



    My3sunz43- rub on nipples? o.O

  • my3sunz42
    my3sunz42 Member Posts: 148
    edited August 2012

    Yup - they're like those temporary tatoos the kids wear ... simply wet & wear. They can help to determine coloring for tatooing and go/no go decisions. Just thought I'd give them a try :-) Otherwise I'll stick w/ my winky foobs.

  • luckykitkat09
    luckykitkat09 Member Posts: 190
    edited August 2012

    Ohhhh....haha that made sense!!

  • mariannm
    mariannm Member Posts: 32
    edited August 2012

    I hadn't heard about the temporary tattoo option...that sounds like an inexpensive and easy alternative to look into while trying to decide which way to go.   I think I'm going to go with permanent tattoos...it may seems weird but I think that it will be easier to look at myself in the mirror with these.  I guess its almost time to start thinking about that.

  • NanG
    NanG Member Posts: 180
    edited August 2012

    Hey Junebugs. 

    *sigh.....*

    So much has happened since my last post.  But first congratulations to ROSETX!!!! Praise the Lord u are well.!!

    So, after i posted last....i went to the docs and was sent for a breast ultrasound. Seems that lump is a cyst.  I was relieved, i think...but i don't know what that means really. What is a cyst? Can they take it out? Should i get it removed or no?  I didn't hear the word cyst from the oncologist...but the ultrasonographer, called the radiologist to confer over the ultrasound while i was laying there...and she said she confirmed it as a cyst.  So....i guess i have a cyst. Didn't hear from the onc, so im going with the 'no news is good news' approach on it.

    Does anyone else have a weird family?  Not my own, my children and husband are the best. But my family of origin is really dysfunctional and its odd but like, it seems that everyones shit hit the fan this summer after my surgery.  From drug addictions to divorce and depression....its so weird.  Im really distracted by it today so i need something to help me stop thinking about thier messes.

    I guess last night i was looking through some pictures on the ipad and i saw myself post mastectomy and i think somehow id forgotten or was in some kind of post denial or something because it was sobering. I saw the picture of my side, and the bruises and the drains.....and i remembered.  Im just like, kind of shocked that I am where i am, midst breast reconstruction...and I actually FORGOT about the mastectomy and the cancer and the everything.  This is such a strange moment in the processing of it all.  And I am sure that later on down the road I will be able to look back and have real clarity but for now...I kind of feel shocked.  Stupified if you will.  Its like, life came up and I was running around getting the kids ready for school, putting out emotional fires in my siblings lives, feeling well and starting to run and dance and sew and bead again....and I just kind of flaked out and forgot...i don't know where i went or what i was doing. i actually even forgot about getting fills.  I forgot I had tissue expanders, I missed an appointment for a fill.....I just like, moved on.  And then when i was looking at the pictures on the ipad it was like i woke up to reality and snapped back together again. 

    Maybe I have Dissociative Identity Disorder...(joking) ....(maybe i really do though...) lol....(hmmmm...)

     I can't really explain it all, maybe I just got busy but for a glorious while i went into vacation mode.  Then I come back on here, and read you all posting about your chemo and ports and all this and I am sitting here now thinking of what a turd I am.  I can have these mental vacations because I am basically done treatment.  But emotionally....im not sure where I stand re: the whole cancer misadventure.  Its like, I was thrust into the emotional crisis of having cancer, the physical crisis of my mastectomy....and now, its like....the fires are out, and its just me.  God Almighty not that I would change a bit of it....because in truth my diagnosis changed who I am forever....but right now I guess im in the midst of an identity issue.  I *was* a cancer patient....and now im a survivor i think, but actually i just feel like i was a fluke.

    To top it off, i think part of the normal processing is that I am really obsessed with this investigation as to why i got cancer. and i keep wondering how i can prevent cancer for the rest of my life and im just slowly going crazy here.  maybe its just post traumatic stress or something. albeit mild....im actually really happy and peaceful most of the time but tonight i think, im being hit with a bunch of reality and its shocking.

    Last night i was in bed with the hubby and we were kissing and he grabbed the foob in the moment......it was weird....kind of embarrassing.....maybe that is what sent me reeling?  i have no clue.

  • NanG
    NanG Member Posts: 180
    edited August 2012

    re-read my post....u guys must get sick of my psychological analysis of myself....i do. lol.

    in all truth, i have no explanation or reason why i got cancer, or why it was caught in time other than God in Heaven had mercy on my life for something.  today i don't know the reason why...but honestly when i go back over the story of how it got discovered, when it got discovered, etc....the only explanation is that God saw me, and heard my prayers, and answered them....and that is all ive got figured out.

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited August 2012

    @NanG, a cyst is a sac, usually filled with fluid. Your doctor may be able to numb it with local anesthetic and remove the fluid with a needle. If the sac collapses when the fluid is removed, that might be all the treatment that's necessary. If it doesn't, I'm pretty sure the cyst can be removed surgically. 

    @mariannm, there was a post somewhere else on bco within the last few days about the stick-on nipples, but the link is in a different computer and I don't remember what thread it was on. I went and looked at the website and they do seem like a good way to figure out what color to have when getting permanent tatoos. Ithink you might be right about making it easier to look in the mirror. I had skin & areola sparing surgery, so my breast looks more like it has been deflated than actually removed. I think that may be easier for me psychologially than it would be to have a completely flat chest with a diagonal scar.

    And if I were participating in this clinical trial I could blow it up again with CO2 Tongue out

  • my3sunz42
    my3sunz42 Member Posts: 148
    edited August 2012

    Nan - Great to hear from you again, but I'm sorry you're going through this tough time. Just know you're not alone ... we all go through that thought process and truth told, I think the emotional side of BC was much harder than the physical side. People tend to understand surgery, physical pain and recovery. However when I tried to explain the emotional hell I was going through I got alot of blank stares. I continue to struggle with depression which my docs think was brought on my Tamoxifen and the 'instant menopause'. Thank goodness for a great team of doctors I'm now in weekly talk therapy and using Effexor to help even out my hormones in my head. 

    As for the rub on nipples, I found the website via the BCO chat somewhere ... here's the page in case anyone is interested: http://shop.rubonnipples.com 

    Happy Friday everyone! 

  • mariannm
    mariannm Member Posts: 32
    edited August 2012

    Nang....  I think what you are going through is absolutely normal.   To think about all the hormonal changes that your body has gone through, on top of dealing with cancer, I think we all have ups and downs.  I also think it's great that you can 'forget' about it from time to time.    If somone told me a year ago what next 12 months would hold,  I think I'd have gone into a state of shock, but in retrospect, I think everything happens for a reason, and we become better people through our experiences.    A year ago, the "C" word was absolutely not a possibility to me or something that I would ever go through.

    I started posting on the board "Anti-estrogen and mental health"  last week (on this site's boards).  It helps to hear that others are going through similar ups and downs.   I just came across this concept of "chemo brain" yesterday, and am so relieved that I'm not losing my mind (yet). 

  • me_4givn
    me_4givn Member Posts: 43
    edited September 2012

    Hello Girls,

    Been out for a while because this recovery was not so good. I am praying for you all and wanted to say hello to NanG and kathyhong. I had to return to the PS because my pain was out of control. My DH was worried sick. I had not slept in days do to the pain. I kept thinking it would get better but did not. Ok, I got in to see the PS. He first pulled out the drains (they hurt like heck) they did not hurt at all with the BMX. They were in my arm pits and had only about 5ml each. Next he removed the 8 external stitches with gauze. These were holding up the alloderm. He stated he had to use a lot because of all the damage I had on my left side. This was the side that hurt. I was hurting from my collar bone down my arm pit and across the top of by new breast. Like a backward "L." He (PS) stated I had a lot of damage from prior surgeries from my Hodgkin's Disease in 1992 and the radiation I had back then. My chest tissue was "plastered to my rib cage" and he had to "dissect" part of my muscle away. That is why I was in so much pain. It went all the way up to my collar bone. He also removed my mediport. Boy girls, that was terrible! I now have frankin boobs and will not be having any new work on them (they are what they are!) pain still there but much better after medication was changed and I was told to stop using my arm for the next week. I started feeling better yesterday and today I have turned the corner. I hope none of you have anything like this. I can tolerate a lot of pain but this was over the top.

    Hoping for things to get better soon! Going to get some help with the depression. I can't snap out of it. I know help is out there. I am tired of crying and feeling like now what?! NanG.....I understand (((HUG))).

    Hugs,

    Jami

  • luckykitkat09
    luckykitkat09 Member Posts: 190
    edited September 2012

    Jami-

    Big hugs!! What are the next steps with the PS then? I hope the pain gets easier for you to tolerate and that you'll be able to go to sleep. I can tolerate pain to an extent but chest and back pain (I sprained it twice and sleeping on it sucks!) is something I can't tolerate for so long.

  • me_4givn
    me_4givn Member Posts: 43
    edited September 2012

    Hello My June Friends!

    Happier days! My pain is much better. Thank you for all the love, prayers, and support. I ended up getting on an anti-depression medication and I know it takes a while for that to start working (they say a few weeks) but now that my pain is soooooo much better, I believe it was making the sadness worse (how could it not?) I am taking steps to move forward. I also am making short term plans (like hosting a family BBQ this weekend). I am still taking it one day at a time and Thank the Lord, its a good day today!!! I can't thank you all enough for being there for me!! Kathyhong..........I just want to give you a squeeze!! My Junebug friends are all so  precious to me!

    Here is some information for those of you having reconstruction soon (or not so soon). It was done out patient so I went home same day. I was not as "out-of-it" like the BMX surgery. You all know the pain I was in but that is NOT the norm. The exchange should be much easier than the BMX so I am not the norm (what's new?! lol). I had the drains for a couple of days and that was because of the alloderm they had to use to build up my chest wall. Ok, now onto the implants. Yes, they are more squishy than the TE's but they are firmer than they old pair that tried to kill me. My whole breast area is numb (like before). The shape is more round than the TE but I am still somewhat in a slight square shape on the right. My PS stated that the internal bra (alloderm) sometimes looks this way and to move my implants around 2x's a day now that pain is better. So, everyday I do foob exercises. Pushing them up, down, left and right. I guess it's to make sure they do not develop scar tissue that can make the implants hard as a brick!

    I must say, in clothing, my bust has never looked better! So I am thankful for so much :) If anyone has questions about the exchange please let me know I am happy to share. I would show you guys but I don't think there is a way?! I have before and after pic's (before, meaning TE's and after meaning, implants).

    I want to thank you all again for your prayers, I really needed them :) I am praying for you all too!

    ox Jami

  • mariannm
    mariannm Member Posts: 32
    edited September 2012

    Jami --thanks for sharing!  I think I might only have 1 fill left now, and can't wait to get rid of these rocks!    how long before you felt you could do 'normal' things? 

  • Kati916
    Kati916 Member Posts: 3
    edited September 2012

    i had total mast june 11,2012. did hv immediate implants at the time, but due to a staph infection, a wk later, have had to hv 3 more surgeries - to remove implants- now waiting for "scar tissue to form inside." before any further surgery.  Never knew so much pain, & my dr doesnt seem to care much.  Have caring cancer "nurse' but is there anything thats helped others through the pain-- not into taking perc- but over counter meds dont touch it.  would appreciate any suggestions. 

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