Recurrence after 11 years. Terrified at this point!

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Hi there, just diagnosed again and was looking for support.....this seems to be the place.

I was diagnosed yesterday with a recurrence in the same breast. Had a lumpectomy with node removal 11 years ago at ge 39. Everything has been great until that moment in the shower in April and here we are today. I see the surgeon next week and will have a mastectomy and treatment. Other than that it is about 2 cm , I know nothing. Thought I would save all the questions for the surgeon.

I am terrified, I am angry and I am sad......



The first time round I fought with all my might,even lobbied for a drug that wasn't on the list here in Canada and was given it, did 9 months of chemo and 21 rounds of rads. I was optimistic even though I was stage 111 because I had to be. I had two young daughters to live for. Now I have a new husband, two young step kids and my girls.



I am more worried about losing my breast,about how I'll react after surgery. My wonderful husband of 6 months ( can hardly believe the timing!) is very supportive and is terrified of losing me. I need to find some strength........

I am sorry,I feel like I am rambling. I'm in a daze. Seeing others on here that were diagnosed the same day helps me feel less alone.



Thank you for listening and my prayers go out to all the amazing women out there who are thriving despite this hideous diagnosis.

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  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited June 2012

    Thanks for posting, Onelife. We're sorry you're here but glad you found us!

    You'll be sure to get some helpful insight from the other members here soon. In the meantime, take a deep breath and know that you're in the best place to get the best support. Please let us know if we can help with anything at all!

    --Your Mods

  • Mallory107
    Mallory107 Member Posts: 223
    edited June 2012

    I am so sorry that this is happening to you.  Please don't fear the MX though-its really not that bad.  I was terrified of it-everything from how it would feel to how I would look.  I will tell you that the procedure itself was worlds easier than I expected it to be.  The first week is a little tough but nothing I couldn't handle and I am a wimp with pain.  I also have to say that seeing myself was not as bad as my expectations either.  I thought I would be traumatized but really it wasn't so bad.  And the recon is coming along great and with clothes you would not be able to tell.   My husband loves me and wants above all for me to be healthy so he is very reassuring to me that he still finds me sexy.  I bet yours will be the same.  Actually I bet that going through this together will bring you closer.  I have been married for 10 years and going through the MX together brought us closer than we have ever been-its almost like at a whole new level. 

     hugs and prayers 

  • KSteve
    KSteve Member Posts: 486
    edited June 2012

    Onelife - That just sucks!  To have been through this 11 years is more than anyone should bear, let alone having to fight again.  I was diagnosed at 44, two years ago.  I chose a BMX from the beginning and I have no regrets.  You will get through it all.  I think the beginning is the toughest part of the journey.  You need more answers before you'll begin to feel more in control.  I'm so so sorry that you're having to do this again.  Don't hesitate to PM me if you have specific questions about the mastectomy part, or ask here.  You can do this.  Just remember, one day at a time.  Big hugs to you and your family . . .

    Kathy

  • mclark55
    mclark55 Member Posts: 168
    edited June 2012
    Onelife2012:  My heart goes out to you.  Please keep posting your questions and fears and we'll do our best to help you through them.  About 6 weeks ago I wrote an article on helpful suggestions for anxiety: http://marnieclark.com/10-anxiety-busters-for-breast-cancer-patients/ .  I sincerely hope it helps you.  Feel free to sign up for my newsletters (they're full of my best info).  Sending you lots of love and hugs today.
  • Jillhunterj
    Jillhunterj Member Posts: 1
    edited June 2012

    Hi, I know just how you are feeling. I just found out on Monday that I have a reoccurence after 13 years. I am devastated as well and very frightening. My heart goes out to you and I will pray for you. I am basically in the same situation as you are right now. I don't know what is going on. I had a right mastectomy 13 years ago followed by chemo and radiation. I wasn't able to get reconstruction for 5 years after because of the extensive damage from the radiation. About two months ago, a lump started forming in between my two breasts, on the bone. I went to the Dr. and they referred me to a breast surgeon. I went to the breast surgeon and he immediately did a biopsy.  I went to his office on Monday and he said it was cancer but I don't know what type as of yet. I have to have some scans done on Monday and then back to his office Monday evening. I have been trying to be strong for my family, I have two sons one 18yrs old and one 25 yrs old but it so hard. I am some frightened. I have a boyfriend whom I live with and have been with for over 5 years and he isn't giving me any support at all. I am trying to be optimistic but it seems like I have been down this road before and I know the outcome. Stay strong for your family and good luck to you. Please keep me posted as I will as well, together we can help each other make it through.

  • stellaratovsky
    stellaratovsky Member Posts: 618
    edited June 2012

    I am sorry that you have to go through this. It is very sad that after 11 years this "&)(;5)):/8& is back I am sure you get the point. I was diagnosed with original BC when I was 37 years old my kids at the time were 4 and 11. I would have made 3 years cancer free in august. At the original diagnosis I had a mastectomy, I had Chemo and radiation. So when I was diagnosed with bone mets in mid may I am angry to it's not fair. Just when you start living I have to go through this again. But you know I am learning to deal with it one day at a time. I know what I have is not curable but it is treatable and I have to live for my boys they still need me they are know 7 and 16. I refuse for cancer to take over my life. So stay strong for yourself and your husband and kids. After all we are all warriors.

  • midnight1327
    midnight1327 Member Posts: 1,475
    edited June 2012

    Hi there, just was reading your thread and the part of the lump between your two breasts alerted me as i have  a strange soreness there right between there. i can't feel any lump, but has been sore there for a few weeks, i have no recurrance in the left breast, the right one was questionable and had to do another mamogram as they thoughtn they saw calciforcations, but i am still awaiting to hear. i was told  rads can do this too, cause chest pain, it feels like i have something stuck in my chest there and won't go away.  i have not spoken to my doc yet, but you saying about been in between  your breasts made me think should i do something about it. i burp alot as it feels like blocked something. in there. 

  • Brendatrue
    Brendatrue Member Posts: 1,830
    edited June 2012

    I remember well how I reacted to the news that I had cancer again eleven years after my initial diagnosis. The shock, the fear, the disbelief! It had taken me about ten years just to breathe easy and not to worry about a cancer recurrence. With the second diagnosis, I underwent mastectomy, no chemo, then hormonal therapy. Three years after that, I was diagnosed with mets to chest wall and skin. I have now had NED status for three years since the mets diagnosis. Yes, it has been a challenging experience, but I have learned that I am stronger than I had suspected (and I thought I was strong from the beginning) and that hope involves many different aspects of my life and, often, ever changing goals. My thoughts are with all of you who are dealing with a new diagnosis or worrisome symptoms. I hope you will get the information and support that you need in order to cope most effectively with the changes you face and that you remember there is some great education and support available through this site. I will check back again soon to get any updates, and I am open to PMs, if needed. Take good care....

  • Onelife2012
    Onelife2012 Member Posts: 26
    edited July 2012

    My apologies for taking so long to get back to you. So much going on and then I got hit with Flu! Thank you all so much for your kind and positive words. I feel more empowered from knowing I have your support.

    I have seen my surgeon and thank God he is a wonderful man. He has the best bed side manner I have ever seen and explained everything to me so clearly. This tumour is different to the first one so it is to be treated as a new cancer. This one is 2cms and grade 2 it is also ER +. He discussed mastectomy and the possibility of immediate reconstruction. He then mentioned Tamoxifen . My first cancer was ER and HER Neg , Grade 3 and 5.5 cms with 4 nodes involved so this is all new to me. I wish I'd had a mastectomy the first time round then possibly I wouldn't be facing this......who knows?

    My surgeon has personally called me 3 times to discuss the surgery and reconstruction. I really want reconstruction to be done immediately and he is fine with that. My surgeon said they would do implants and that they would work together to get the best possible outcome. I trust him and I trust my plastic surgeon as she has operated on my daughter twice. I meet with her tomorrow.

    My concerns are the pros and cons of having immediate recon done. The psychological  effects of waking up to my breast gone is really bothering me as is thinking about how I will look in clothes. But, I am concerned about cancer surveillence with an implant there. I have questions for the plastic surgeon.......I would appreciate any advice you can give me too. Are there any specific questions I should ask?

    I am not sure if it is possible to do immediate recon given that I had radiation 11 years ago. I am also not sure if I am to have an expander or straight implants. It all sounds so painful.

    Another thing, my husband and I were going to get away to Maui before treatment starts. I can have surgery Aug 13 or July 19. The July date means I can't get away and who knows when i will be able to again if I am to have treatment. My surgeon doesn't feel that waiting 3 weeks will make a difference biologically........I am not so sure. Urgh!!! so many questions and thoughts going round my head..........I can't think clearly and I don't like it.....can't function like this.

    Thank you so much in advance for all of your help.........it really helps. 

  • Brendatrue
    Brendatrue Member Posts: 1,830
    edited July 2012

    Hi, Onelife2012, I'm sorry to hear that you had the flu on top of all else that you are facing, and I hope you are at least feeling stronger physically. How wonderful for you that you have a surgeon you feel like you can trust! I hope you continue to get all the information that you need in order to make the best decisions for you.

    When I was diagnosed the second time, I considered reconstruction; however, the radiation from eleven years prior did not make it feasible because of the damage to my chest. Because of the location of my tumor, I had a massive boost at the end of my series of treatments, and I am sure that created part of the problem. I also did not want to endure more surgeries and chose instead to focus on building my health in any way possible, so I probably would not have chosen recon anyway. I have certainly missed having my breast, but I have adjusted better than I expected. Perhaps my adjustment is in part due to the fact that I am a slender person and I have relatively small breasts. I imagine others will come along to offer suggestions, and you might want to post on the forum that specifically addresses this issue.

    Also, if it were me, I would have to go to Maui! I guess I learned early in my cancer journey to embrace all those things that enhance my quality of life, and I personally would not worry about the 3 week delay. However, you might need to look at the psychological impact of waiting, which ultimately might be more anxiety-provoking than you want during a fabulous getaway.

    And finally, with regard to not thinking clearly and not functioning well: You sound like you are doing just fine trying to gather all the information you need and to consider various aspects of decisions as you make decisions about your future care. The decision making process is often filled with moments of apprehension and doubt, but that is part of the process. And it is certainly not a sign that you aren't functioning well. Now, you might not like the way this upheaval makes you feel--and who would?--but you sound like you are doing what you need to do. I am hopeful for you that you will make sound decisions and that you will do so realizing that you will not know all the consequences until you take the leap, but that is part of life anyway!

  • Onelife2012
    Onelife2012 Member Posts: 26
    edited July 2012

    Thank you for your lovely reply Brenda. Guess what? I just got back from Maui! My husband and I had a wonderful time. I was stress free and totally relaxed and happy......it was the best medicine. My surgery is going to be Aug 13, day after my birthday....which is yucky but at least it's not ON my birthday! I have to delay the reconstruction for 6 months or so. I am disappointed but kind of expected it because of the rads. I saw the nurses at the Breast Clinic today, they gave me the sad eyes which I absolutely hate. They mean well and are really nice ladies but I hate it....really hate it. Probably because it makes me face my situation that I try my best to run from. I got the soft form for after surgery. I can't imagine how it is going to be after surgery. When I was on holiday I kept looking at my bikini and my dresses, most of which I won't be able to wear again for a long time. Good thing I live in Canada and winter will be here before we know it....No more showing off the girls! You have to laugh sometimes don't you. Seriously, I am terrified of the surgery, it is creeping up. 

    Please tell me more of your story Brenda. Can I ask how old you are? If you have kids, where you live? Please feel free to send me a message. I would love to hear your story so we can support each other. I believe in optimism and humour.....a good sense of humour can get you through anything.

    I look forward to hearing from you soon.

    hugs and love

    Caryl 

  • HLB
    HLB Member Posts: 1,760
    edited July 2012

    Hi onelife, I wanted to let you know that my friend had reconstruction with expanders after rads. What they did was expanded the rad breast even bigger than the other one, and then removed the skin that was too damaged and used Alloderm to replace the skin. I don't know all the technical details but might be something to look into. When I had the expanders I asked about surveilance afterwards and the PS told me the implants are placed under the muscle so that everything is right upp front and would be easy to detect a local recurrence. He said the implants are basically right on top of the ribs. I wish you good luck with the rest of your treatments! Heidi

  • Onelife2012
    Onelife2012 Member Posts: 26
    edited August 2012

    Hi Hiedi

    Thanks for the information. My PS scared the living daylights out of me when he showed me the pictures on his laptop of the DIEP surgery. I kind of like my tummy and don't want major scars there so, I am kind of leaning towards the implants to be done when I am healed. I think he is right, to try to avoid any kind of complications due to radiation damage....put it off for now.

    I have my surgery on Monday, I am getting quite nervous but am more resigned to the fact that I am going to be losing part of me. I still don't know if I am to have Chemo. I did 9 months of the nasty stuff before and really don't want any more side effects. I live with all kinds of issues because of the treatment. My BS said I may get Tamoxifen so I am hoping that is all I will need.

    This site is a lifeline.............thank you for all of your advice. 

  • Wilsie2
    Wilsie2 Member Posts: 441
    edited August 2012

    Onelife, will be thinking of you and praying for a speedy healing for you.  I had recurrance after 15 years, but had already had double mast, chemo and radiation.  Just finished 14 rounds more of chemo, and I say you do whatever you can to fight back.  I am getting my strength and hair back, so we move on and live as normally as we can.  I really feel good, considering.

  • Cspreng73
    Cspreng73 Member Posts: 5
    edited August 2012

    Hi Onelife,

    I saw on your post you were having surgery tomorrow. I am too. It will be either lumpectomy or masectomy (left). I was only diagnosed a week or two ago but the surgeon fit me in. I am waiting for reconstruction till I'm all done with whatever therapy I do. Good luck to you tomorrow and pamper yourself today!

    --Cassie

  • Brendatrue
    Brendatrue Member Posts: 1,830
    edited August 2012

    Caryl, In case you don't already know this, I sent you a PM. I know you were scheduled for surgery today, and I hope all went as well as possible. I'll be thinking of you.

    Cassie, Good luck with your surgery! I hope you will recover without complications and that you will soon get all the info you need to make the best plan for your future treatment. Be good to yourself.

  • Onelife2012
    Onelife2012 Member Posts: 26
    edited August 2012

    I am thinking of you too Cassie.......I hope it went well for you. Sent you a message....look forward to hearing an update.

    love and hugs

    Caryl 

  • Onelife2012
    Onelife2012 Member Posts: 26
    edited August 2012

    Hi everyone,

    My surgery went well, it wasn't anywhere near as bad as I thought it was going to be. I am healing nicely, the drain came out on Monday which is a blessing. My surgeon said there were no surprises so I hope I get good news when I see him next Wednesday. 

    At first I was shocked to see my chest, to see the space where my breast once was. I had a very emotional couple of days the  two days after surgery but that was about it. I am used to it now and am finding different ways to make my bras work.

    I have some anxiety but and trying to stay in the moment as best I can and be positive. I find night time is the worst so sleeping is difficult. Not because of the surgery but because of my stupid mind.......can't seem to shut it off. All the worst thoughts come then , I feel like I am going to die and I picture my children without me etc.......you know what I mean. I am hoping getting something to help me sleep and shut these thoughts up will help.

    I hope everyone is doing well, thank you for thinking of me and being so supportive...........big hug to you all.

    Caryl 

  • netty46
    netty46 Member Posts: 296
    edited August 2012

    Anyone have local recurrence of triple negative? After alot of years clear?

  • minxie
    minxie Member Posts: 484
    edited August 2012

    I had a local TN recurrence, but it was only after 3 1/2 years. I've heard it's almost impossible fo TN to recur after 8 years.

  • susan3
    susan3 Member Posts: 3,728
    edited August 2012

    same here..recurrence after 11 years. was 41 then. now at 52 have stage 40 plus lymph nodes. 4th treatment in one year. but gotta say, not so bad as i thought. still in nodes. no vital organs, and still working and living life. dont know when thigns will down spiral, but i am very busy living right no so my mind doesnt go there much. my secret is keeping busy and laughing with friends.  dont get me wrong, there have been plenty of sobbing nights, bt the good right niw far outwieghs the bad times. hang in there. i will keep you in my prayers. i alo saw a counselor, he also helped. good to have someone to vent to who will just listen. sometimes that is all we need.

  • susan3
    susan3 Member Posts: 3,728
    edited August 2012

    same here..recurrence after 11 years. was 41 then. now at 52 have stage 40 plus lymph nodes. 4th treatment in one year. but gotta say, not so bad as i thought. still in nodes. no vital organs, and still working and living life. dont know when thigns will down spiral, but i am very busy living right no so my mind doesnt go there much. my secret is keeping busy and laughing with friends.  dont get me wrong, there have been plenty of sobbing nights, bt the good right niw far outwieghs the bad times. hang in there. i will keep you in my prayers. i alo saw a counselor, he also helped. good to have someone to vent to who will just listen. sometimes that is all we need.

  • netty46
    netty46 Member Posts: 296
    edited September 2012

    Why are you considered stage 4?

  • netty46
    netty46 Member Posts: 296
    edited September 2012

    Minxie recurrence tn after 12 years same breast. Breast is also reconstructed breast to add to it.

  • tibet
    tibet Member Posts: 545
    edited September 2012

    hi Netty 46

    How do you know yours is not a new primary but a recurrence?  

  • Cindi74
    Cindi74 Member Posts: 363
    edited September 2012
    Onelife,  I was a teacher.  Research shows that our brains work while sleeping.  I found the trick is to give your brain something else to deal with as you go to sleep.  Put Audiobooks on a phone or mp3 player, and through earphones, go to sleep listening.  I have used since cancer,  One Thousand Years of Laughter,  free. downloaded podcasts of Garison Kieler monologues from Lake Woebegone,  Prarie Home Companion,  A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the White House, and Bossypants.  I go to sleep listening, and sometimes wake up listening, but it stopped the waking up with SAD and FEAR.  Hope it works for you
  • netty46
    netty46 Member Posts: 296
    edited September 2012

    susan does your doc monitor you with tumor markers does he like them. I am being treated for local recurrence now after 12 years.

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