Alternative Treatment

& a very good morning to everyone.

hi blue, is blue a he??

re palliative care, that so often means opiates or they're fake equivalents:  methadone, etc, I (understandably feel all of thet ios very bad, whenever, hope I don't need to eat my words;

I do try & help my immune system, diet etc etc, & that reminds me (joy) I've been haveing some bad days/nights, & I do think they're barometrically triggered specifically thunderstorms.  but I found someorganic small lettuces at the supermarket, wll wash & juiced them, seems to help

so parkinsons is just the shakes until you go to a conventional docktor & get diagnosed.  I have no idea what that entails, I'm perfectly comfortable calling it the shakes, anyway conventional medicine has no good remedy for it, it's incurable I think, dopomine, for sure:  I did any of you know that the most dopomine is found in saguaro cactus?  & it is off limits, huge as they are you can't hack peices of them to help your shakes as they're endangered & protected. 

possibly, my father had the shakes at the end of his life, tough he was a nearly life-long alcohalic.  quite booze & sigarettes in his eighties.  lived to age 91

I had a mamograph once, "found" a lump below my collar bone on the lft side, went to the collge nurse, 1957 or so, she gave me a mamograph, won't do that again, can't be good, aside from the radiation, all that squishing........& the lump?  I'd probably had it, & still do, since I'd been thrown from a orse at camp some years before, (thank you saphire)  extra cartalidge from the fall on hard trail 

gary has said recently that ultra sound can injur a fetus as they are done to discover the sex of a prospective child.

I'm not against mammograms, as I was diagnosed due to a mammogram screening - however - I had been asking for YEARS if there wasn't something more effective - as my family history was full of cancer of various sorts - but primarily breast cancer.  They kept telling me that there wasn't anything else.  I didn't hear about breast MRI's until after I'd already been diagnosed. (still PO'd about that - but I didn't investigate, either, and I should have).

Dogsandjogs and gardengumby:that's the frustrating part. The way in which mammograms are given out and prioritized over more expensive but more accurate imaging tests, to me, is one of the worst examples of a problem that plagues medical science all over the world: the lag in time between when a discovery/best practice/ piece of evidence comes to light and when it is fully adopted. This is a huge problem preoccupying academic researchers today, and to its credit the NIH and academic centers are beginning to devote lots of attention to it.

For example, in the 80s it was discovered that the administration of beta blockers within about a day or two (I forget the exact number) of a person with defects in the posterior part of the heart who has just suffered a heart attack can literally save the person's life. But, incredibly, even though this very simple clinical protocol could be adopted, it wasn't for many, many years.

This is not an alt/conv medicine issue so perhaps it doesn't belong here, but the mammogram thing made me think of it. There are too many practices in bc treatment that, frankly, should be obsolete if you go by6 scientific evidence.

1957....your lump is older than I am.

I don't think the squishy mammos existed in 1957.  And given by a school nurse, no less.  Curiouser and curiouser.

a cyst??? That's about as benign as you can get!!    I've got cysts all over the place - including my boobs (well, singular, now) - just like my uncle did - well, he didn't have 'em in his boobs, so far as I know....  But some people get cysts more than other people do.  A cyst almost never becomes cancerous. 

Blue, where's White Rabbit? We need to follow her into the rabbit hole. Oh, wait, we're already there!

So I suppose I won't sound too terribly stupid if I clarify this:

This is a discussion forum about "alternative treatment" for BREAST CANCER. That is, you:

--have been diagnosed with breast cancer and

--are interested in learning about different treatments for BREAST CANCER.

While many times one talks about supplements, etc.... one takes for general health, the people who post here are EITHER

--people diagnosed with breast cancer, or

--a family member of very close friend who wants to learn more about alternative treatments for breast cancer.

So it isn't a general health forum or a general alternative medicine forum. Just thought I'd clarify. If you are concerned about non-breast cancer related things such as shaking, substance abuse or AIDS you are better off consulting specialists or forums dealing with those issues.

There's a lot of suffering here. We need all the energy we can get to comfort sisters in need or loved ones of departed sisters.

We don't need our time wasted with anyone complaining about every medical problem you can think of but who has not been diagnosed with BC.  We are humans with limited emotional resources. Many women here are incredibly kind, generous and giving. Their efforts and time should be respected, as they expend something in giving care. Don't abuse that if you don't have the illness this is support for. Call it caregiver's exhaustion, but there just isn't room, sorry. Be mindful that these caring individuals are neglecting something else to think about you. Attention getting is selfish in this crowd.

We have lost sisters on BCO this month ---it's a massacre. I can't count the number. Please be sensitive to the fact that people who really do have cancer really do deal with real illness. Hypochnodria/"me-too-ism" is certainly a condition for which one can and should get treatment - and for which some compassion is in order. But we don't have the resources to extend ourselves that broadly on a cancer forum.

& there are a lot of good alternative tre4atment ideas on the locked forum, some of which I researched

Here is an article about the history of mammography. Though not widespread, it did exist in the 1950's.

http://www.discoveriesinmedicine.com/Hu-Mor/Mammography.html#b



I vehemently disagree with self diagnosis and tx of diseases based on feelings, intuition or a radio broadcast. This is also not a forum for AID's ,Parkinson's or pre-natal ultrasound, but many members do post about non- bc health issues, albeit with a medical diagnosis. That being said, by her own description, Abigail is an old woman. Why can't she be left alone? What's the point in badgering an old woman who is not going to harm anyone? It is not necessary and unkind. Why can't we let it go?

Caryn

Abigail, with all due respect, you do not know if you have cancer or any other condition. As Athena stated this is a board for breast cancer victims and/or their loved ones. Which category do you fall in? Also, whenever anyone throws inconvenient facts at you, you say you're going to the "studio" for a few days, even though you seem to never stop posting here. I suppose someone can post non-stop on the puter and do studio stuff also, but maybe not so well. 

& if my posts bother anyone it's perfectly easy to scroll through & not read them

IBC is apparently very aggressive, & I expect I'll not live as long as I'd like, I've read almost everything on that forum. & there are some that meet my symptoms, & are around my age:  75 & counting.  I've had the red spots now for I guess 17 months now & they've grown pehaps quadrupleds.  the mega green tea help a lot I think. & now the juiced lettuce.  who else told you about the opioids in lettuce?

I think you were the dperson I tried to contact at first for a forum that seemed suitable.