Shiatsu: myths, and lies.

shiatsushi
shiatsushi Member Posts: 1
edited June 2014 in Complementary and Holistic Medicine and Treatment

This site says: some chemotherapy can cause your bones to weaken, and the strong pressure of shiatsu can cause a fracture.

If you excuse my language this is a lot of bull. I, and many of my shiatsu students - even before they graduate - have been giving shiatsu to people with Osteogenesis Imperfecta (including children) since 2004. We go to their annual congress in Spain every year to give them shiatsu. We haven't produced one single fracture or bruise - or any pain for that matter - and their bones are much weaker than anybody receiving chemotherapy.

Where did that information came from? Who has made it up?

Lymphedema made worse by shiatsu? That's not what my patients suffering from it say. In fact they say that when they receive both lymph drainage and shiatsu, it is MUCH MORE effective than when they receive lymph drainage alone (or shiatsu alone for that matter)

I just wonder who spreads all this lies.

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  • Natkat
    Natkat Member Posts: 75
    edited August 2012

    THis is the typical stacked-deck of corporate medicine, no?

    If one college kid dies after drinking GALLONS of ephedra, FDA bans it so normal people can't buy a good herbal decongestant.  Yet if a patient dies after getting a contrast MRI with Gadolinium ... FDA does nothing and radiologists continue to use gadolinium.

    Corporate medicine works very hard to overstate the risks of natural modalities whilst undertating the risks of chemo, radiation, hormone-blocking drugs, etc.

    But I think we all know this ...

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  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited August 2012

    A shiatsu massage.... is that when you are rubbed down with one of those really cute little dogs?

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  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited August 2012

    Beesie,

    I laughed so hard I almost spit out the food in my mouth! That is a very cute little shih tzu. Caryn

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  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited August 2012

    No, it's just a picture I found.  But he looks just like the cutie that belongs to one of my friends.  

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  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited August 2012

    Ah, so it's a shih tzu, not a shiatsu!    Duh Well, that explains a lot.Bag Head 

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  • flash
    flash Member Posts: 1,685
    edited August 2012

    Beesie- OMG, that is great.  I needed that.  Thank you.

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  • Natkat
    Natkat Member Posts: 75
    edited August 2012

    Hi Kayb,

    I deleted earlier post since I do not wish to offend.  I certainly understand your viewpoint to see only therapists who are certified in Oncology. 

    I am not the original poster, but I did feel compassion for her frustration.  As someone who has used natural methods on myself for the past 30 years, I have often been frustrated at very real supression of healthful items by the FDA (et al) while many unhealthful items get a "pass" simply because deep pockets are behind them.

    This is off-topic of cancer ... yet ... not entirely.  For example, the FDA has shut down all the local dairy farmers who sold raw milk at our farmer's market and health food store.  The police actually raided and arrested the very nice lady who used to sell milk at our farmers' market. 

    Yes, raw milk can cause tuburculosis ... but there have been only 5 cases of this in the past 10 years or so.  Meanwhile, I can go into any supermarket and buy milk treated with bovine growth hormone which is linked to breast cancer.  This growth hormone is actually ILLEGAL in some EU countries b/c of the links to breast cancer in humans. 

    This situation is very frustrating to someone like me who would like to buy raw, local, organic milk to make healthy yogurt the old-school greek way as part of my anti-cancer diet.

    Sorry for the off-topic post ... I am truly sorry if I offended you.  This was not my point but I hope you can understand some of my frustration and what prompted me to write in defense of shiatzu and sympathy for the original poster.

    Good luck and good health to you!

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  • ellentk
    ellentk Member Posts: 41
    edited August 2012

    I'm a massage therapist, trained in shiatsu as well as two certifications from sloan kettering in massage for cancer patients.

    There are different styles of shiatsu.  Some are quite aggressive, but others are gentle and primarily move energy (chi or qi) through the (acupuncture) meridians.

    The skill, sensitivity and experience of the practitioner are what's most important.  

    Of course there are adverse events...there's nothing people do that can't go wrong.  And that nursing journal is taking a very conservative approach.  Pressure should be avoided in the conditions mentioned.  But shiatsu can be done without pressure.

    It's would be awful if someone avoided a therapeutic treatment because sometimes an unskilled clod practices it. 

    Ellen

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  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited August 2012

    The OP has one post - no dx - nothing at all.  Makes me question her/his motive. Sealed

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