Calling all vegetarians

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  • bexybexy
    bexybexy Member Posts: 151
    edited August 2012

    Wenweb I am vegan too. 2 years prior to my diagnosis I practially lived off these vegan chicken pieces I bought in the supermarket they had soya protein isolate in them. I had gone on a very good website called foodsforbreastcancer.com and found that it said to stay away from it (good thing I checked as would prob still be eating them now). It's hard as a vegan as I don't have time to prepare stuff as I work long hours. I do make chillis and soups and freeze them and luckily my local supermarket to a great range of veggie burgers not with soya but using lentils, chickpeas, beans, grains etc which is great so they are quick and easy and also relatively healthy. I remember reading about plant estrogens and soya and even said that certain beans and chickpeas and some veg has estrogen in albeit very low amounts. It just makes me mad sometimes I was telling my mum all this and she summed it up so well by looking incredulous and saying "Well what CAN you eat?!" I rarely drink alchohol, don't smoke and am not overweight it sometimes makes me so cross seeing people pigging out on steaks and milkshakes and cakes who smoke, drink like fish and yet nothing happens to them lol!

  • Cottontail
    Cottontail Member Posts: 374
    edited February 2013
    Onvacation - yes, I do love beans and green leafy veggies.  However, neither of those makes a delicious tofu scramble.  Beans aren't an option at the Thai restaurant, either. Tongue out
  • June56
    June56 Member Posts: 158
    edited August 2012

    A great soy free meat substitute is a product by the brand name Quorn. It is in the frozen section at Whole Foods and Eathfare.

  • Cottontail
    Cottontail Member Posts: 374
    edited February 2013

    I love Quorn!  It's on sale at my local Target right now (buy one get one free), so I've stocked up on it.  I have heard of a few people having an allergic reaction to it, but I have no problems.  It does have eggs, so I'll have to give it up when I go vegan next year, but for now it's awesome.

  • wenweb
    wenweb Member Posts: 1,107
    edited August 2012
    Going vegan next year??  What's up with that Laughing
  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited August 2012

    For those who are not vegan, the cutlet stuffed with goat cheese and cranberries is yummy.

  • June56
    June56 Member Posts: 158
    edited August 2012

    Wren: Running to Target tomorrow.

  • Cottontail
    Cottontail Member Posts: 374
    edited February 2013

    Wenweb,

    Why vegan?  (I think it's the most compassionate and healthiest choice.)  Or why next year?  (I've still got quite a few items in my pantry with dairy and egg ingredients.  I will use those up first.) 

  • wenweb
    wenweb Member Posts: 1,107
    edited August 2012

    Cottontail

    The question was why next year, and you've explained it well.  I still have chicken and shrimp in my freezer, it didn't occur to me that perhaps I should have eaten them before going vegan.  It sounds like you are way more logical :)

  • dogsandjogs
    dogsandjogs Member Posts: 1,907
    edited August 2012

    You could always give away the stuff that is non-vegan. I only had 6 eggs left so did eat those--

  • Cottontail
    Cottontail Member Posts: 374
    edited February 2013

    I try to avoid buying dairy/egg when I can, but I'm not completely diligent about it right now.  I also had to go back to eating yogurt during chemo, as I got thrush with 4 out of the 6 treatments.  I was originally going to go vegan this summer, but that got derailed.  January 1 is my new goal.  I'll be glad to see 2012 go for a lot of reasons, and I think it will be good to start of the new year with a new lifestyle.

    When I went vegetarian, I did the same thing with using stuff up- I no longer purchased meat or anything with meat in the ingredients, but I went ahead and finished eating what I already had at home in the pantry or freezer.  It also helped me ease into vegetarian, which lessened the shock on my husband.  ;)  As dogsandjogs suggested, another option is to give the chicken and shrimp in your freezer to a friend or family member who will eat them.

  • wenweb
    wenweb Member Posts: 1,107
    edited August 2012
    Yes, it would have been a good idea to give those things away, and I did give many things away.  Unfortunately, the chicken and shrimp have been there long enough that I feel it would be an insult to give them to anyone I know :(  What I need to do is remember to put them out with the garbage...
  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited August 2012

    I gave my meat away when I went veggie - my sister appreciated the meat.  I am not vegan but going to do a cleanse when I finish rads and it is vegan.  Hope the lifestyle sticks because I truely believe it is healthy if done correctly.  Cheese is the main reason I'm not vegan.  

  • Cottontail
    Cottontail Member Posts: 374
    edited February 2013

    I will admit that there was a pack of steaks in the bottom of my freezer that that I "forgot" about until they were not great for eating. I pulled them out (from underneath the things I had stacked on top of them) and said sadly to my husband, "oh honey, we should have eaten these months ago. I don't think they're good now."

    ;)



    I've got quite a few vegan cookbooks already, I think te biggest thing for me will be checking for eggs/dairy when I buy premade foods. I have vowed to cook more real food after recovering from all this, so I think that will help me.

  • dogsandjogs
    dogsandjogs Member Posts: 1,907
    edited August 2012

    You can get vegan cheese!  Every time I miss dairy cheese I think of the poor cows - the conditions they are kept in and the hormones they are given. Those hormones are going into our bodies when we consume dairy products. 

  • Cottontail
    Cottontail Member Posts: 374
    edited February 2013

    I've been known to order my veggie pizza without cheese, then put some mozzarella-style Daiya shreds on top and melt it.



    I used to think I could never be vegan because I loved cheese so much, but I've reduced my cheese consumption so much, I'm pretty sure I'll be fine! I just started out cutting out cheeses that used animal rennet (so gross!) and eventually found myself eating virtually no dairy cheese. Knowing how the dairy industry really works helped me a lot, too.

  • wenweb
    wenweb Member Posts: 1,107
    edited August 2012

    Cheese was the hardest thing for me to give up, although milk in my coffee was hard too.  Vegan cheese is made from soy which is not good for those of us with estrogen+ BC :(

  • dogsandjogs
    dogsandjogs Member Posts: 1,907
    edited August 2012

    Oops, didn't know that. The onc told me occasional soy is ok though.

  • June56
    June56 Member Posts: 158
    edited August 2012

    It seems everything is made with soy. Even my vegetarian vitamins have soy.

  • dogsandjogs
    dogsandjogs Member Posts: 1,907
    edited August 2012

    I wonder if my vegan protein powder has soy in it? Probably - sigh--

  • Cottontail
    Cottontail Member Posts: 374
    edited February 2013

    The vegan cheese I eat (Daiya) is NOT made with soy:  www.daiyafoods.com/our-products.  Their offerings are limited, but really I can make do with cheddar and mozzarella.  It's not inexpensive, but this helps me to only use it when I think it is integral to what I'm eating, instead of dumping it on everything, which is what I used to do with dairy cheese.

    I also use a soy-free cream substitute in my morning coffee, I use So Delicious coconut milk creamer:  www.sodeliciousdairyfree.com.  So Delicious also makes some AMAZING dairy- and soy-free ice cream.  

    I drink almond milk instead of dairy or soy milk, I like the Blue Diamond/Almond Breeze brand the best, but there are several brands that each have a slightly different flavor.  

    My onc told me soy was perfectly ok "in moderation."  I've decided to drastically limit products made with soy isolates and consume my soy in the form of tofu (and soy milk when I go to Starbucks).  This means cutting WAY back on my beloved Gardein mock meats, sadface.  :(   

  • Cottontail
    Cottontail Member Posts: 374
    edited February 2013

    Also, for people who like to cook, I've heard that a really good substitute for cheesy sauces can be easily made with raw cashews.  (Of course, not for those with a nut allergy.)  Google "cashew cream sauce."  I haven't tried it yet, but I plan to soon, it's supposed to be super easy to make at home.

    I use a product called MimicCreme to substitute for heavy whipping cream when I'm cooking, and it works really well.  My omnivore husband and MIL can't tell it's not real dairy cream.  Works perfectly in "cream" soups, mashed potatoes, etc. 

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited August 2012

    I have tons of vegan cookbooks - I just need to try some recipes out.  I keep reading about the dairy cows and the poor baby boy cows that become veal and it breaks my heart, I probably should read that when I think I need cheese!  I've given up all other dairy except cheese, and I know I can do it, just have to set my mind to it!  If I would cook more it would be easier I think.  When I plan my meals and do most of the cooking on the weekend that seems to work the best.  Not sure why I haven't done that in a while - lazy and tired I think!

  • dogsandjogs
    dogsandjogs Member Posts: 1,907
    edited August 2012

    Thanks for the 2 posts!  I love almond milk - it tastes much better than cow's milk I think--

  • wenweb
    wenweb Member Posts: 1,107
    edited August 2012

    Cottontail,  Thanks for the tip on the daiya cheese substitute.  I've never seen or heard of it.  

    It's nice to read everyone's tips and solutions for replacing foods that are no longer on some of our diets.  My tip is nutritional yeast. When added to (almost any) dish gives a richer, nutty flavor, and in rare instances can be almost as good as a cheese substitute. In addition, it adds lots of B vitamins. 

    I too use almond milk.  It only has 1 gram of protein though making it more empty calories and sugar... 

  • wenweb
    wenweb Member Posts: 1,107
    edited August 2012

    Cottontail,  Thanks for the tip on the daiya cheese substitute.  I've never seen or heard of it.  

    It's nice to read everyone's tips and solutions for replacing foods that are no longer on some of our diets.  My tip is nutritional yeast. When added to (almost any) dish gives a richer, nutty flavor, and in rare instances can be almost as good as a cheese substitute. In addition, it adds lots of B vitamins. 

    I too use almond milk.  It only has 1 gram of protein though making it more empty calories and sugar... 

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited August 2012

    I found daiya cheese at whole foods, I guess I should give it a try again on some veggie pizza!  

  • Cottontail
    Cottontail Member Posts: 374
    edited February 2013

    I like to add nutritional yeast to my "mock tuna" (smashed chickpea) salad.  It really does give a nice richness to the flavor.

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited August 2012

    oh mock tuna - sounds interesting - what else do you put in it?

  • Cottontail
    Cottontail Member Posts: 374
    edited February 2013

    Onvacation, I make it pretty much just like I used to make tuna salad, except instead of a can of tuna, I use a can of chickpeas that I've rinsed then smashed with a fork or a potato masher. I like mine with Vegenaise*, diced red onion, diced dill pickle, a bit of yellow mustard, and a spoonful of nutritional yeast. When you mash the chickpeas, just do it roughly, so they're in pieces, not paste. Once you mix in the mayo/Vegenaise, they have a similar texture to tuna salad.



    It makes a great sandwich filling (I like it with butter lettuce and sliced tomato on thick wheat bread), and is good in a wrap, on crackers, on a fork straight out of the bowl... You can switch the ingredients up however you like, and the chickpeas are good for you - full of protein.



    I've seen recipes online where people add kelp powder or something to make it taste fishy, but I like it without.







    *Vegenaise does have soy in it, but I think regular mayonnaise is made with soybean oil, too.

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