April/May 2012 Chemo hang out

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  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited August 2012

    Conratulations to all of you who are PFC!!!!!!!  I have 6/8 on Thursday and am actually beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel.  I can't wait to join you!

  • bcbarbie10
    bcbarbie10 Member Posts: 319
    edited August 2012

    LisaG85, really good news! Happy for you!



    Marcia1111, we're on the same sked, im going today for my 6th of 8. But i still have one year of herceptin after, so the for me, the light is still far but definitely lit.



    Good luck to all of us going for the IV this week. Minimal SE's!

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited August 2012

    I wish BCO had spell check, so I would stop writing things like conratulations.

    Good luck today, BCBarbie!

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012

    Marcia1111- You are too funny.......!!!!!  

    Good luck to all with the remaining rounds of chemo!!!!  Your time in chemoland will be ending soon and then it will be time to move on!!!!  Wishing minimal side effects to all.

  • nofear2012
    nofear2012 Member Posts: 160
    edited August 2012

    Dancer - I got back from seeing my onc & he prescribed clotrimazole lozengers. Have u heard of these? I am off the diflucan & doing the nystatin, which seems to be helping better than the diflucan. He said to take the lozengers if the nystatin doesn't work. He also feels my stomach issues are anxiety related & he suggested I see a psychiatrist, which I do not entirely disagree. So I am still at square one but my stomach doesn't hurt from the diflucan. Ill just keep on going as I have been.

  • nofear2012
    nofear2012 Member Posts: 160
    edited August 2012

    I got back from seeing my onc & he prescribed clotrimazole lozengers. Dancer or anyone have u heard of these? I am off the diflucan & doing the nystatin, which seems to be helping better than the diflucan. He said to take the lozengers if the nystatin doesn't work. He also feels my stomach issues are anxiety related & he suggested I see a psychiatrist, which I do not entirely disagree, but there is more to my stomach issues than anxiety. Especially since the feeling in ongoing. I think he is getting tired of hearing about my stomach issues and he has no real answers for me. 

     Dancer I believe you said you take a protronix is that stronger than Prilosec? Because the Prilosec will take away the burning/acid feeling in my stomach but not the fullfeeling I have and I am not entirely sure the full feeling isn't something totally different. I was frustrated to begin with but now I am more so. Onc said the chemo is out of my body so I should not have anymore side effects to deal with. But obviously I do cause my stomach is just as it was while on chemo.

    Anyone have any words of advice. I have talked to alot of people who had stomach issues just after infusion but there stomach came back around even though they had stomch issues to begin with. I have not run into someone with stomach problems after chemo has been done. Thank you everyone just want to figure this all out.

  • bcbarbie10
    bcbarbie10 Member Posts: 319
    edited August 2012

    Nofear, my onc switched me from Nexium to Pantoloc 40 mg twice a day when on steroids, with Mucosta 3 x a day. After the 3- day steroid i just take one Pantoloc 30 minutes before breakfast and Mucosta only as needed. They worked wonders. I usually am able to wean myself entirely a week before the next one. Ask your onc. I, too, had heartburn from hell, had to pull off the road to let the pain pass when driving.

  • bcbarbie10
    bcbarbie10 Member Posts: 319
    edited August 2012

    Btw, yesterday was taxotere 2 and herceptin 4. Hope im getting better at this. Today must be the steroid- fuelled honeymoon period. I hope i have prepared enough for the oncoming onslaught. Aaah, the shots this weekend...

  • lisa2012
    lisa2012 Member Posts: 652
    edited August 2012

    Twofriedeggs, I answered your message but wanted to comment- I had that full feeling too, that's why I didn't want to drink water or eat much either.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited August 2012

    nofear, yes I have heard of those lozenges.  I asked my doc about them, and he said since I'm still responding to the monistat tx, to keep with it for now.  It is on my list of things to ask about again if it gets worse.  It is much better than it was Monday, just a few tiny areas of yellow/white on my tongue...now if I can just keep it away - that's the hard part.  I hope the lozenges work for you!!!! 

    My onc says Protonix is stronger than Prilosec.  And I have found that Nexium works better for me than Protonix, however it was tough to get insurance approval for it.  I hope your tummy issues get resolved soon!   Oh and you can do twice a day on these drugs if necessary for 6 to 8 weeks to get it under control.  Perhaps you can go see a gastroenterologist?  

    I'm still on Nexium but I was on meds pre-chemo, so that is nothing new for me.  My sx are controlled, now, with meds vs. not being controlled with meds while on chemo.

  • Hortense
    Hortense Member Posts: 982
    edited August 2012

    docziggy - I noticed that the roots of some of my hair was oddly striped too, but thought I might be mistaken. I'm glad you mentioned your's. I used cold caps so I still have my hair, but it's hard to see on the top of my head. I also have areas of grey, areas of dark and areas of blonde as my hair grows without my being able to color it, so noticing the stripes mixed into that jumbled mess surprised me. 

    I definitely have pale, narrow white stripes across my nails from each chemo treatment. Most people can't see them, but they are visable if looked at closely. My RO looked at my nails last week because she knew I had planned to ice them during chemo and she said actually my nails were doing very well. A credit to the icing, I believe.

  • Pauletta
    Pauletta Member Posts: 54
    edited August 2012

    Hi Everyone!

    I just wanted to say a very special Thank You to everyone that has given me advise during my A\C treatment and my Taxol\Herceptin treatment. I am still on taxol and herceptin.

    The salt and baking soda rinse has kept me from having any mouth sores or thrush, the saline has helped my nose from bleeding, and the moisturizing has helped my nails. I am doing everything several times daily! The rinse I am doing every time after I eat something. I have salt and baking soda at home on my counter and at work. I have a nose saline by my bed and one in my purse and I have a strong moisturizing tube of lotion in my purse and by my bed.

    I was a wreck when I first started with the A\C because of being so afraid of all the "Possible" side effects. This site has been the best thing that I have ever found!!! Ya'll are so AWESOME!!!! I know one day I came in here and was so depressed and crying and ya'll helped to lift my spirits!!Smile

    I can only HOPE that I come across someone in the future that is going through what I've been through, so I can tell them about all the things that help!!!! So many people I have talked to have never heard of the mouth rinse, using the saline to help and moisturizing your nails!! I will start my radiation when I'm done with my taxol. I'm not looking forward to that, but I'm praying that I will not have any problems with it. I was told that there is a special cream to get that will help tremendously. Any helpful hints on that?  I don't know the name, but I will definately find out before I start the treatments.

    Hope ya'll have a wonderful evening!!!

  • Pauletta
    Pauletta Member Posts: 54
    edited August 2012

    I don't know how to put the information about what I have under my name. So, I will just tell ya'll. I had surgery in March of this year, they removed the mass, took 2 surgeries because the margins were not clear after the first surgery. I had no sign of cancer in my nodes and I have Her 2 Positive.

    I have a port (thank God!!!) how do people get chemo without a port. Poor Veins!! I had to get chemo the first time in my arm vein because it was only 2 days after it was put it and I was still so swollen they couldn't access it. That vein in my arm is still not usable! The second A\C treatment they were able to access the port and have been able to each time every since. I have seen people complain about how painful their port is. I haven't had any problems with mine. thank God! It is very tender after each of the taxol\herceptin treatments for some reason. Wasn't like that with the A\C. But, it only lasts a couple of days, then it's fine.

    My right breast is the one that is going to have to have radiation and that is where the port is. My surgeon tried to put it in on the left side and was unable to. I found out today that I can definately get the radiation with the port still in. Thank God! Because I still have like 30 some weeks of herceptin after the taxol is finished. And that's through IV and I'm not having that done through my veins!

    Well I guess I have said everything.

    Take care everyone and keep SMILING! Smile All of this CRAP we are going through is only Temporary!!!!!  

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited August 2012

    Hi Pauletta - I feel the same way about this group!  As for rads, I've been through it already.  My recommendations - start moisturizing at least a week or two BEFORE rads starts to get ahead of the game with regards to your skin.  And during rads, the cream I used which has some studies done on it with rads is calendula cream.  I moisturized 3 to 4 times daily, took it with me everywhere.  My skin did great with rads!  I burned, but not too bad, only a few tiny blisters at the end.  I had minimal pain, this may be been because of decreased sensation post MX. 

  • Pkate
    Pkate Member Posts: 37
    edited August 2012

    Hi everyone,

    I"m 8 days PFC but still can't seem to shake the symptoms.  Had to go in for IV fluids on Tuesday I felt so draggy.  Felt a little better Wednesday and same today.  They noticed my resting heart rate was 104 but didn't do anything about it.  I was given a Neulasta shot after my last Taxol since my ANC was so low.  They think these symptoms might be related to the shot but I had it 6 times before without ill effect.  I'm thinking its the cumulative effect and the stress in my life.  I have a sister that just went into Hospice and my Dad just went into Nursing Home.  Yeah, that must be it.  I am going to see them in Texas on Saturday.  Am hoping Melrose and I can connect - that will be so special!

    I agree - this site has been a godsend.  I have learned so much and always feel there is a listening ear out there.

    Love you all,

    Pkate

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012

    Pauletta- Glad you checked in.  I think the cream that some have recommended is "MIADERMA" cream.  You should ask your RO and/or the radiation center if they give it their patients.  Some do.  If you can't find it locally, you can order through Amazon.  If you are looking for calendula cream, I know Whole Foods sells it.  If you haven't, check in at the Summer 2012 Rads Hangout thread.  Stacie who started this thread, also started that thread so those from this thread could travel together to Camp Rads.  Good luck with the rads!!!!

    Pkate - Hope you feel better soon!!!!  You are still in nadir so you need to be careful when travelling.  I don't know if you had any blood work done yet post chemo.  Your red blood count may also be low which can also make you feel tired.  Fortunately, you can help the red blood count by eating foods that contain iron.  No, you don't have to eat liver everyday ( thank goodness because I would have gone nuts!!!  lol)  I try to eat an iron enriched cereal ( such as Total, Quaker Oats Oatmeal Squares, Cream of Wheat, Wheat Bran, Oatmeal) everyday as well as other foods.  Again, rest up before you come down here to Houston. 

    Hope all is well with everyone.  Wishing those still having chemo, minimal side effects.  Wishing those who are now PFC, continued recovery and healing after chemo.

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited August 2012

    Pauletta - This is such an awesome group and they have helped me numerous times.

    dance - where did you get that calendula cream?  Is it OTC?  Are you done with rads?

    Pkate - Conffratulations on being PFC!  I hope your SE subside soon.  I'm a little jealous that you're going to meet melrose (JK), but I'm sorry you are going to TX for a sad reason.  Are you going to wear a compression  sleeve when you fly?

    Melrose - I see you answered my question about the calendula cream.  Thank you.  As always, you are a wealth of information!

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited August 2012

    Pkate:  Congrats on being PFC.

    Pauletta:  I totally agree with you too!  I seriously don't know how I could have gotten through this entire "journey" without these threads. What a great group of women!

  • lisa2012
    lisa2012 Member Posts: 652
    edited August 2012

    Yup, these threads probably kept me from going nuts. That feeling that we all understand....

  • RoulaG
    RoulaG Member Posts: 239
    edited August 2012

    Today is day eight PFC. I am feeling pretty good considering I have been poisoning my body for the past 4 1/2 months. I am hoping my eyebrows start coming in a little faster now. The loss of my hair was not as bad for me as the loss of my eyebrows. When those puppies went I cried.



    I hope all you wonderful ladies have a beautiful day, weekend and minimal SEs for all in treatment. Hang in there!

  • Pauletta
    Pauletta Member Posts: 54
    edited August 2012

    Hi Roula,

    What were you on that made your eyebrows come out? Did you lose your eye lashes too?

  • rgina
    rgina Member Posts: 100
    edited August 2012

    I'm back!  I know it's been at least a month, but have been loosing my mind.  Decided to refinance the house/property and did 3 weeks of catch up clean, painting, minor repairs etc.,  for the appraisal and spent so much time over a 4 day long weekend on my feet my legs swelled, doc freaked and had to get a ultrasound to rule out blood clots - I told them I was just trying to be wonder woman and in fact it was what I thought - nothing.  Was doing all that along with working full time in the middle of a major annual project.  I seem to be the type to bite off more than I should:)  In the meantime plugging along with my TCH every 3 weeks and my Herceptin weekly - finished #4 the last of July and my blood counts hit the skids for the second time, but onc is amazed how well I bounce back on my own within a week, still no shots, yipee!  Maintaining my weight - biggest difference since May has been a 2 lb. loss one week which of course I was thrilled.  Was due for my #5 TCH today but when I got to the office, onc didn't like the echo cardio I had last Friday and got me an appointment with a cardiologist within 30 minutes, who did another echo and EKG - all is fine. Kinda bummed because you know how you mentally prepare for the long chemos and then so close to the finish line have it postponed:-(  Well that's it - catch up for me.  Yes, I am still alive and doing pretty darn good through this process.  Sorry I vanished for awhile, but there are only so many hours in a day.  Hope everyone is doing as well as can be expected, spirits are high, close to the finish line or finished for many and few if any SE's.

  • RoulaG
    RoulaG Member Posts: 239
    edited August 2012

    Pauletta - I was on TCH, just finished with 6 rounds of the stuff. I also lost my eyelashes, but that did not bother me so much.

  • rgina
    rgina Member Posts: 100
    edited August 2012

    Test....has there really not been a post on here in almost a day?

  • lisa2012
    lisa2012 Member Posts: 652
    edited August 2012

    That would be amazing! We are usually a chatty group. tazzy, hope you are doing better...I know lots of us are dealing with bumps in the road. I can't wait till next August when it is a year from the last thing done. I want to live in the present, but I am stressed. Even though I feel much better then I did during chemo!!!

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited August 2012

    Hi all! Just checking in as I head for my 7th and second to last Taxotere on 8/23. I wanted to ask if anyone is having nonstop "Taxo"tears? I am constantly wiping my eyes, and the tears often literally drip down my face. I have been using the Genteal gel drops but haven't noticed any less tearing. I asked the eye doctor about it and they just said it should get better when I'm PFC. I know some of us have had much worse SEs than I have, so I don't want to complain, but it is annoying.



    Pauletta, glad to see you are doing okay!



    Chapter4, I'm sorry it's been so difficult for you. Sending you hugs and support, and hoping at least you find a solution to your stomach problems.

  • lisa2012
    lisa2012 Member Posts: 652
    edited August 2012

    Indigo, Tazzy and I went through the constant rivulets and tearing fir a while- for me about 4 or 5 weeks. It was annoying , made me feel and look like I was crying a lot, and I felt soggy and sad. It dud stop and I am so glad.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited August 2012

    Lisa2012 - it stopped 4 or 5 weeks PFC, you mean? Soggy is right! We endure what we must, but it makes it hard to read and work sometimes.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012
    IndigoMont11- Taxo-tears for me, too!!!  Some days, none and on others, they show up.  Those started right after my 4th round of chemo.  I'm hoping that they stop soon.  I'm almost 2 weeks PFC!!!!  You are right, this side effect is doable but a little annoying.  HUGS to you!!!Cool
  • Cottontail
    Cottontail Member Posts: 374
    edited August 2012

    I'm 10 days PFC, and I'm feeling really good.  Every day I feel a bit stronger, and the bad taste is fading from my mouth with each passing day.  I still get tired fairly easily, and much walking or standing makes my legs feel like jelly, but as with my other SE's, that gets less and less every day.

    My taxotere dose was reduced for my final chemo due to neuropathy, so I'm wondering if that was the one that gave me the worst SE's.

    I think I have avoided thrush this time, too.  I have been eating yogurt daily just in case, and I know my immune system is starting to kick in because I woke up with itchy hands this morning.  (I'm allergic to dairy proteins, they make my hands break out in really bad eczema.  My hands would totally clear up the day after each chemo, then gradually worsen as my immune system came back.)  I've eaten so much yogurt this summer, I can't wait until I can stop! 

    I also think I feel a lot more optimistic this go 'round, since I know I don't have to have more chemo.  Just knowing that is over really improves my outlook, and I think that is helping me overcome the physical SE's faster.  I spent the time between chemo infusions doing nothing but dreading the next one and wallowing in how terrible I felt.

    Now if only my hair would get the message and start growing...

    :) 

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