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OMG Natkat! Your blog is sooo good. And so right on. Totally my experience.
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You would know the difference if you get a diagnostic MAMMO....
i AM SCHEDULED FOR ANOTHER IN 2 MOS SINCE i DID NOT HAVE RADS (i'LL BE 6 MOS POTS lx AND i ASKED FOR A MAMMO FOLLOW UP , BUT NOT DIAG!oops so sorry caps.
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Thanks for the warning Purple, at the first sign of a dx mammo
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LOL Ruby!
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all 3 troubles came on, had been comming on for many years, but so as I noticed, after the Biker died so suddenly. I quit eating out of grief, lost 15 pounds, first the shakes, don't know why that suddenly, probably old age, then the dizzies, then the cyst, which had probably hardened & risen before bob left me, got the red spot, then 2, then grew. none from fear. partially from grief no doubt.
one of you, cara? said my journey was unique. I doubt it. in the time magazine article on breast? cancer last? year, it said 6 % refuse conventional treatment. & that had to have been those diagnosed. how many poor, with no insurance just don't do docktors. & how many rich?
If there was a naturopath nearby I might see them, but the nearest is binghampton & no bus there.
I don't drive.
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Oh Abigail, I'm so sorry and feel so bad when people here keep insisting you see someone when as you've mentioned before getting around for you is difficult, plus you have no insurance and restricted financial means.
It's a real shame that in this 'civilized' world people suffer so much. A lady just recently posted on Chilli's thread, her story is so sad
You are very knowledgeable about your own body, you have the wisdom of your age and life experiences and we're here for you. Just keep doing what you are doing the best you can and know how, that's all anyone of us can do really, hugs
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abigail,
Grief and fear are both emotions that cause stress response in the body. Please get a physical, blood test and ultra sound. As you probably know, your physical is covered by medicare. Once you have objective results, you can use natural methods to treat specific conditions. As it is now, all you can do is talk about things, perhaps spend money on treatments that are not appropriate, and feel unwell. It always helps to know where you are in order to know which road to take to your destination.
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I have no medicare & am not financially restricted.
it is true that before sweetbean began bothering me about all this the fora was very quiet.
also true that it's pretty much yada yada yada, the locked fora has lots of very good information: not too much here so far.
If insurance paid for naturopathy there'd no doubt be plenty of them. yesterday gary spoke of black currants, not so much for cancer but for heart trouble & diabetes. but here I've never seen them. if we had splenty of naturopaths we's have a demand for fruits like this no doubt.
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I apologize for offending you.
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Yesterday I rodered 1/2 pound of black raspberry seed powder to add to my smooth Budwig drink with all the other good stuff I put in it. I was after the red raspberry seed powder but when I got to the website by Dr. Jim Webb (involved in original study mentioned below) I found that their recent research proved the black to be 3+x more powerful though the book I was reading did not mention black. And NO I did not see anything on Dr. Oz LOL, I read this in some books and had decided to add to protocol, but I see Dr. Oz has been telling gen public about the ellagic acid and the red raspberry alone contains about 6x more than other berries. First found it in a natural health and nutrition book then in Outsmart Your Cancer book. The quality of red or black raspberry powder must be high, as that used in all the studies, anything off shelf will not do.
The research on ellagic acid was done at Hollings Cancer Institure by Dr. Nixon ---- greater than 40 mg a day showed induce normal cell death in cancer cells. Many other studies supported this finding, effective against colon, cerical, breast, prostate, lung, esophageal, pancreatic, melanoma, leukemia. Supports the P53 gene so it can induce apotosis and induces G-arrest which stops process that causes cancer cells to mutate/dividing. To those of us alties who realize by now that there is strong belief and proof that cancer can also grow from the bacteria we all have when our host defense is down for whatever reason (trauma, toxins, health issues other than cancer and more, meaning a change in the host i.e. us, then to know that ellagic acid is also a powerful antibacterial and antiviral is key too because when the bacteria morphs (pleomorphic) into something else, it becomes a virus too and can morph back again to bacteria. This morphing only takes a cancer-causing form when the host is off, only then. Not an infectious disease, it is a personal health transition. See Rife information for details and to realize a microscope was made to see this happen back in 1930s - 1970s. Therefore antibacterial and antiviral is of utmost important to research for yourself. As far as more benefits for ellagic acid from the red raspberry and now the black especially, the AMA even lists strong ellagic acid as 1) activating detoxifying enzymes in liver, 2) preventing binding of carcinogens to cellular DNA, 3) an antioxidant that helps clear away free radicals, 4) stimulates immune system.
Other ellagic acids are available with other research tied to their wonderful benefits, one being the Chinese gall, but I have not read much on this.
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I spent hours yesterday seeking some new doctors that insurance will pay for but who are on the same page as I am.
Found an endocrinologist who does bioidentical hormone replacement and thyroid and all the good stuff, he is given rave reviews from patients, he is very alternative but an MD through and through, so calling for appt today.
Found an oncologist that cares aout his patients, was referred to him by the radiologist specialist in radioablation / cryoablation ..... which I cannot have due to the artery running through the axilla and made me say, then why does the onc I went to for tests want me to havethe radiation in axilla, he said shrug, if the cancer is in your lymph nodes then it is mosst likely elsewhere in your body and just not showing on the PET CT, it is insignificant at this point, and the radiation would not be as centered as the radioablation, but still......, and that is what he said and this reaffirmed my initial lifetime decision aagain of no rads for me.
Was looking for an immunologist for autoimmune disease (cancer) and found nothing. There has to be someone who does IVs that insurance pays for. I know medicare pays for Vitamin C, vitamin cocktails, and a few others. I am paying out of pocket now to an integrative md, pathologist for the UVB thereapy, H2O2 IVs when I choose those. Would be nice if insurance did something to save my arse, we have really good insurance.
Abigail! you are so right, if ins paid for these naturopathic / alternative / traditional choices for wellness, instead of only conventional newfound treatments of the day, we would have a world full of naturopaths and a lot healthier recovering people. Note, I did not say cured, I c annot, not allowed, but people would be able to choose and those who realize what their body needs is the more natural approach to wellness, to back up and start over, they would have a place to turn that insurance would pay. Who benefits::: the patient, the naturopathic doctor or whatever their field, the insurance company.
QUESTION - did I mess something about the dx mammos? Is it true that those are so much stronger and can they burn you? or waht was the reference? Lost me, thanks....
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Diana, thanks for sharing about that. I am going to have to check that out. If pea protein is in fact estrogenic, then I will have to abandon my Vega powder for morning shakes and come up with my own formula. This sounds like a great addition.
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Abigail,
I was the one who called your journey unique. My reference was more to the interesting life you've led as well as your self diagnosis of many illnesses. Not to quibble but the number of people who self diagnose is still probably quite small. Choosing not to seek treatment after a confirmed diagnosis is a different matter and 6%, although significant, puts those folks firmly in a minority group. I don't say this in a pejorative way, it's just that this is still uncommon. Hope you're feeling better.
Caryn
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The Politice Behind Mammography. Interesting read.
Here's a teaser:
The featured three-part article in Bloomberg News1, 2, 3 delves into the questionable practices supporting conventional breast cancer screening and takes a swipe at the politics connected with mammography, exposing much of what the mainstream media has avoided thus far. The articles are excerpts from Handel Reynolds' new book, The Big Squeeze: A Social and Political History of the Controversial Mammogram. Reynolds is a breast radiologist at Piedmont Hospital in Atlanta.
Citing the history behind who's been calling the shots through the years for this cancer screening test, Reynolds reveals how public pressure and key government health officials play a part in funding-or not funding-this test. One of the key issues is that mammography's failings have been studied for years in excruciating detail, and have shown that mammography has been oversold as an early detector of cancer.
"In a moment of unprecedented candor for an official of the normally message- disciplined American Cancer Society, Otis Brawley, its chief medical officer, made a startling admission... 'I'm admitting that American medicine has overpromised when it comes to screening. The advantages to screening have been exaggerated,'" Reynolds writes.
"Brawley was responding to an article that had just been published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, in which researchers argued that 20 years of widespread breast and prostate cancer screening had failed to deliver the promised health benefits... [S]creening had led to a huge increase in the incidence of early-stage disease, with only a very slight decrease in late-stage disease.
This is significant because the basic rationale for screening has always been that identifying and treating more early-stage cancers will lower the number of late-stage cancers. That this has not happened suggests that screening detects many nonaggressive cancers that would not have progressed if left undetected. The practical result of large-scale screening, in other words, was overdiagnosis and overtreatment."
Mammography May Actually RAISE Your Absolute Risk of Breast Cancer
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http://www.medicare.gov/basics/socialsecurity.asp
This explains all about medicare.
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You are automatically enrolled in Medicare when you get Social Security
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I dob't get social security. when I worked it was always off the books as I learned when ss began sending me statements.
I sinply don't like what conventional medicine does. I don't like what gary does either, some of it. his protocal for cancer these days if ozone. take out blood, how much I don;t know, ozone it & put it back in. how well this workd I also don;t know.
I suspect needles made from japanese steel, for instance, from 9/11 refuge sent to japan. prions can't be killed, & one form causes alzheimers.
but this is pretty much off topic, & the above posts are vvvvvvvv interesting, especially the plack rasberry stuff!!
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Abigail,
I wasn't saying that you should pursue conventional treatment. I was just offering the opinion that you may not have cancer (and probably don't, since 80% of lumps are benign). I also said that, if you do have cancer, you can't treat it properly (alternative or otherwise), unless you know what kind you have (hormone positive, Her2 positive, triple positive, or triple negative.) Alternative protocols vary with the type of cancer.
Just for background - I work for a naturopath. I currently follow an anti-cancer diet - no meat, dairy, sugar, or processed foods. Some wild fish and organic eggs. I take lots of supplements, homeopathy, and mistletoe. I practice yoga and get regular cardio. I also did chemo, surgery, rads, Herceptin, and am doing Tamoxifen. Feel fine.
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glad for the input, sweetbean. by the way you are the only person here who has at times anoyed me. & as I've said several to many times, It isn't now just a pretty hard lump, for a year & a third +/- it's had irritating red place on it. to get diagnosed I'd need to submit to protocals which make no sense to me, & if I got information I trusted I still wouldn't do any of their other things. I feel okay too,
Ive been reading the translation of the french gastromene translated by mfk fisher. the lawyer wrote it in 1895 as I recall. he in his meditation on death says that death is an imperative, "like sleep". but I think not if you mess p your nature with things like too strong drugs/substances/protocals
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OK, but lots of people have hard lumps that are just lumps - there are numerous types of lumps, like fibrocystic lumps, that are benign. I had lots of hard lumps and only one of them was cancer. Also, lots of people have rashes that are just rashes.
Also, there are lots of alternative protocols and a fair number of them take into account the type of cancer you have, so a diagnosis would help you design your alt treatment.
I will not be commenting on your post anymore.
I hope you continue to maintain your health.
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I am hoping that Abigail's lumps are benign and all the more power to her if she treats them as if it was cancer. As far as I'm concerned, I hope Abigail stays with us whether her lumps get diagnosed or not because she can teach each one of us a thing or two. Her personality and presence here are appreciated and she has endeared herself to many of us.
Sweetbean: "I realize that you want to be able to tell people that you are battling an aggressive form of breast cancer".
I think this was quite unnecessary and I'm sure Abi is relieved that you are "going to back off and not comment on any of your posts anymore"
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okay, lets not get polarized though, that doesn't help anyone.
can't they tell what kind of breast cancer by where it's located? how do the biopsies tell?
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I said it before and I'll say it again, you can't save someone from themself.
Leave Abigail alone. I also think that should include not encouraging her as well. It goes both ways.
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I totally agree with not encouraging her as well!
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Personally, I think it's great that Abigail most likely doesn't have cancer. I had cancer and it sucked. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
The naturopath that I work for has people get diagnostic testing all the time. Then she prescribes natural treatments to help them. Diagnosis then treatment. It's pretty much how medicine works. That being said, if someone doesn't want to go to the doctor, then don't go.
I'm glad that you have gotten so much information and help from Abigail's posts.
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Sweetbean-I've read this thread from beginning to end and my head is still spinning from trying to understand this whole thing with Abigail. Maybe some people just bored!
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Abigail,
The location of areas of suspected bc, from the outside of your body, can't determine what type of bc you have, although inflammatory bc often has external symptoms. Many women who are dx'ed with bc have no lumps or external symptoms. A biopsy samples tissue in the area of suspicion. A pathologist looks at the sample and determines, by the cells, what type and grade of bc you have. This is greatly oversimplified, gives you a general idea.
Caryn -
I'm glad you edited your post, although your exact words were copied in mine.....
As far as I know and can tell, BCO is not a medical clinic or a doctor's office where one would hope and wish to obtain a diagnosis. No one here is qualified to diagnose breast cancer.
Abigail is very knowledgeable about herbs and nutrition in general which is a plus on an alternative treatment thread in the alternative forum
S&P, if you're bored, many other threads out there to entertain you
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Ruby,
I understand Abigail's background and why she won't see a doctor. And she may well be knowledgeable about herbs and nutrition but no one should self diagnosis, period. Whether it is bc or any other serious disease how can one choose the proper tx, alt or conventional without knowing what you are treating? I believe complementary and alt tx have a lot to offer but you have to know what you're treating. As you said, we are not a medical clinic or doctors. How can self diagnosis possibly serve anyone well?
Caryn -
Abigail,
Biopsies are tissue samples of lumps or suspicious areas. The tissue is examined under microscopes and the cancer cells look different from normal healthy cells. The tissue sample can also be subjected to dyes and chemical assays to further determine what specific type of cancer it is; i.e. estrogen positive or negative, etc.
If you have cancer and your cancer is estrogen positive then you will want to treat it with different supplements than if it's estrogen negative. There is a lot more to this than just estrogen. I am just using estrogen as an example.
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