April/May 2012 Chemo hang out

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  • RoulaG
    RoulaG Member Posts: 239
    edited August 2012

    Quick question for all of you ladies. Has anyone thought about having a BMX, even though your oncologist does not feel it is warranted? My breast surgeon told me that I have very atypical looking breast tissue. If I go with a BMX I can forgo the radiation, which has side effects of its own.



    I know it is a decision I have to make on my own, but just wondering if anyone else has had this thought. I just don't want to have to deal with my breasts anymore. Every pain or twitch I feel in my breasts freaks me out. I guess peace of mind is what I am looking for.

  • lisa2012
    lisa2012 Member Posts: 652
    edited August 2012

    Cottontail, that is good news!! tumors getting smaller and going away is what we like.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012

    Hey gals---- Just curious about how the hair growth is going and if there is anything you are doing to help stimulate hair growth ( ie eyelash/eyebrow growth serums, Latisse, supplements).  PFC as of 8/7 so I don't expect to see much right now.  Got some peach fuzz, stubbies and pre-chemo head hair growing.  My eyebrows are going but also notice new growth-- short baby fine brow hair.  Bottom eyelashes growing a little where those fell out and top eyelashes are still hanging on. 

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited August 2012

    Pauletta:  I have finished 13 treatments (is that right, Kim?)  So far so good.  I have 20 more to go.  RO says pinkness wil start probably in another week.  The only SE I have is under my armpit feels like I have razor burn.

    Melrose:  I am 6 weeks PFC and I swear, the last two weeks my hair has been growing my leaps and bounds.  So much so, I hardly ever wear my wig anymore. (Will have to wear it when doing presentations for work--don't want to scare the sales away and for my son's wedding, but I feel confident enough to go out "topless".  I went to the gym today and the stares are getting fewer and fewer.  Maybe I just don't care anymore. I will have my DH take a pic tomorrow and try to post it here.  I am soooo excited!  Lashes are good, eyebrows are scarce, but just had the gal who waxes them trim them (she hadn't seen me since before chemo) and she said she could definitely see new growth.  I do have an rx for Latisse, but haven't used it yet. I am using Bosley System (you can get it online or at Ulta) which is like Nioxin.  The gal at Ulta said she liked Bosley better.  I have been using it since my final chemo.  I am also taking 500 mcg/day of Biotin.  DOn't know if any of this is helping, but understand, due to my heritage (or should I say hairitage--LOL), I am a hairy person.   

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012
    kjliberty- As I told the clinical research coordinator about my hair (aka Elvis)--- Elvis may have had one foot out the door but never totally left the building!!!!  My onco and the coordinator have been amazed that I didn't lose all of my hair.  It's those mighty hair follicles that I have!!!!!  I bought a set of Nioxin shampoo/conditioner/scalp treatment from Marshall's the other day.  I'm going to start using that in a few weeks to see that works.   I know that my hair follicles will be rejoicing and know there isn't any more chemo coming to hit them in a few weeks.   As for the Latisse, have the prescription but haven't filled it and may not.  Just wanting to wait and see what happens next as my personal hair science experiment continues.  I can hardly wait until I don't feel like I have to wear something on my head when I do go out.  I guess I just don't want to scare anyone with my beautiful head!!!!!    The side effects from my final chemo have been minimal so I'm just hanging and resting.    Hope your weekend is restful and that the rads have been kind to you.  Your son's wedding will be here before you know it and I know that will be a time for great celebration for you and your family for many reasons!!!!  HUGS!!!!!Cool
  • lisa2012
    lisa2012 Member Posts: 652
    edited August 2012

    I have hair activity, but it shows me how litte I had that this looks like a lots to me. Like 5:o'clock shadow al over my head. Ostly my old color (dark) but I see grayish peach fuzz too. Definitely not ready to go out in public. Eyebrow thinned but easy to fill with eyeliner strokes and powder. Enough eyelashes left to put mascara on.



    I was thinking today how the hair going was the first major shock if the new reality, many tears. Now after fingernails, skin things, thrush, watering eyes, tummy a mess, sleep issues...I'm back down to that first thing- the hair! And it is coming back.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012
    YAY for the Return of the Hair!!!!!!  (Almost sounds like the latest installment in a soap opera series or something..... lol)
  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited August 2012

    Melrose and Lisa: You are too funny. I hear ya, though.  I love your experiment!  I may use the latisse on my eyebrows.  We shall see.  I haven't cracked up the box yet.  Thanks for the tip on where to buy Nioxon cheap.  My hairdresser said she could get me her price if I wanted.  I still have some of the bosley.  I read reviews online and they are pretty much the same results.  DOn't know what i will do, but it IS an excuse to go to TJ Maxx, which I love! 

    I hope everyone has a wonderful weekend.  It was beautiful here--high 80.  Not a cloud i the sky.  Tomorrow we are headed to the Italian fest.  I love Italian food (actually, any food for that matter).  Had Mexican tonight.  Must be an "ethnic" weekend for me.

    Have a good one! 

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012

    kjliberty- I'm always looking for a bargain......  I was surprised to see that Nioxin shampoo at Marshall and TJMaxx.  Love having an excuse to do some retail therapy!!!!! 

    Have fun at the Italian Fest tomorrow.  My son and I had Italian fest at home tonight with homemade spagetti sauce and yummy bread!!!  I even toasted some bread with fresh mozarella and fresh tomatoes on top..... oh so tasty!!!  Weird how my taste buds work great when it comes to tomatoes.  My DH went to a company outing to see a minor league baseball game so he missed out. 

  • Pauletta
    Pauletta Member Posts: 54
    edited August 2012

    Hi Lisa2012,

    I have finished my A\C treatments and am on my 4th of 12 treatments of Taxol and herceptin. Then I will have 40 more weeks of herceptin and 6 weeks of radiation after my 12th Taxol is finished. I noticed about 2 days ago when I looked in the mirror that I have NEW HAIR growing on my head. I was so excited! It's like you said a 5 o'clock shadow on my head. The hair is really soft. Dark like my hair used to be before I started to go grey! : 0 )

    I remember all the tears I had when I got my head shaved because of not wanting to deal with the Clumps coming out. Once it started coming out, I had it shaved. My eyebrows are thinning, nothing happening yet with my eye lashes. It is so weird that when your on taxol your eye brows may thin or come completely out, may lose your eye lashes, but the hair on your head will start coming back. Hair is hair. Makes no sense to me, but I am very happy that I am getting some hair to start coming back. I am in no way ready to stop wearing my wig when I go out. I won't untll I have enough short hair to have a hair style. My oncologist said that it will grow out slowly. You should've heard me when I went to work after I noticed that I had new hair growing. I was telling everyone and they all said....wow! I haven't heard you this happy in a long time!! : 0 )

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012

    Yahoo ..... the Hair Returns to Pauletta!!!!  I know your faith in your hair follicles have been restored!!!!!

    FYI:  Eyelashes and eyebrows are on a longer growth/fallout cycle than the head hair which is explains why the head hair may return sooner after fallout.  The eyelashes and eyebrows may fall out after chemo and may return/ thin/ fall out several times over the next year after chemo.  It just takes a while for those particular hair follicles to get back to a normal cycle.

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited August 2012

    Pauletta:  I a totally obsessed with my hair re-growth.  It is coming in very nicely, I think.  Not as quickly as some of the people on these boards, but enough there is not shadow, just hair.  I think I am going to go to the grocery store today sans wig (I will be sporting a hat though!).

    Have a great day.  Looks like rain is coming here--hopefully, it will dry out before the "fest" this afternoon.   

  • Cottontail
    Cottontail Member Posts: 374
    edited February 2013

    I never lost all of my hair, and the sparse stubble that is left continued to grow, albeit slowly.  (I also retained eyebrows, eyelashes, and arm hair.)  I'm only a couple days PFC, but noticed some leg stubble when I was showering yesterday.  Not enough to see, but I can feel it.

    I'm hoping this means the hair on my head will be quick to fill back in.  I don't really fancy using crazy chemicals on my head at this point, I'll just let my hair grow on it's own schedule.  I've managed this long.

    I've had pretty short hair in the past off and on in the past, though, so as long as it's growing back I'm cool. 

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited August 2012
    Just love hearing about our hair growth!!!!!  Makes me just smile!!!!!Cool
  • Pauletta
    Pauletta Member Posts: 54
    edited August 2012

    Thank you for the excitement for me having my hair start to grow back on my head!Laughing I am not going to use any chemicals on my head either. I am just going to let God take care of it. My eyebrows have started thinning out. My eye lashes are still normal (I guess) I never use mascara so I don't know if they are thinning or not. I never take notice to my eye lashes. 

    Taxol is really weird! I am tired and very irritable, but stomach feels great. I have been having some diahrea (spelled wrong I'm sure). Don't know if that's from the taxol or just everything that is going on in my body. But I will tell you, it is much BETTER than adryinmycin and cytoxan that's for sure!!! Has anyone else had the tiredness and irritability from taxol?

    I have been using saline for my nose 3 and 4 times a day to keep from having bloody nose. So far haven't had any problems. I carry it in my purse and have one by my bed at night as well.

    I have learned so many tips from ya'll and they are all GREATLY APPRECIATED!!! I got to share the 1 cup water, 1/4 tsp. salt and 1/4 tsp. baking soda mixture for mouth sores with someone yesterday that is on chemo! Made me feel so good to be able to help someone else with information that I received from ya'll!!

    I have been keeping my nails moisturized too.  I also got some special nail polish from my oncologist that I'm sure is helping. She knew that I was really worried about my nails, so she gave me a prescription.

    Hope everyone has a great evening! I'm going back to bed.  By the way I wanted to let ya'll know how wonderful my husband and my son have been to me through all of this. There have been many times where I have not been the nicest person to be around because of this CHEMO!!! But, they still love me and are wonderful to me. I Praise God for giving me such a wonderful family!

  • chapter4
    chapter4 Member Posts: 155
    edited August 2012

    RoulaG



    I had two tumors in my left breast...both invasive and had a mastectomy....now post chemo and going through radiation,,,,I will be having the other breast removed before starting reconstruct on both....it's my own choice but one my OC agrees with.

  • RoulaG
    RoulaG Member Posts: 239
    edited August 2012

    Thank you Chapter. I think I know what I have to do, just wanted to know if I was being too "radical". But I realize it all depends on how we feel. Peace of mind for me at this time in my life is a must. I know that there is always the possibility of it coming back. But every pain and twinge I feel will be a constant reminder of how my breasts tried to kill me.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited August 2012

    roula - I, too, opted for optional BMX.  I just didn't want to go through this a 2nd time with the other side and wanted that additional peace of mind like you.  I am very glad I did b/c they found a tiny amount of DCIS in the supposed "clean" breast after MX.  It would have just been a matter of time before I would be going through all of this AGAIN.  For me, it was the right decision. 

  • RoulaG
    RoulaG Member Posts: 239
    edited August 2012

    Thank you Dance - I have very lumpy dense breasts, they have always been a problem for me, too big and uncomfortable.



    I worry about DCIS in the other breast. That is what is pushing me towards this move. Did you have immediate reconstruction or TEs? Still a little confused with the lingo. Was is a difficult recovery?

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited August 2012

    I had immediate recon with fat grafting, which is still very new.  Only a few docs in the country do it, and I had to travel for my surgery.

    In regards to pain, I think it really depends on the type of recon you have.  If no recon, most say the pain isn't bad at all.  My recon was pretty painful for the first few days b/c I had lipo of my legs for the fat - OUCHO.  I had some ongoing sharp pain with one drain but that isn't common.  Not much breast pain.   

    I'll let others speak to what TE recon pain is like.   

  • nofear2012
    nofear2012 Member Posts: 160
    edited August 2012

    Hey dancer-have u tried acidophilus to help replace the good bacteria the chemo killed. I just started taking it today in hopes that it will build up & repair my immune system. My wbc count last wed was in the normal range 4.2, so I am hoping beyond hope that this all works. How is yur battle going?

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited August 2012

    nofear - yes, I'm taking a probiotic that has a combo of bacteria, including acido.  

    Sad to say, my thrush came back last night.  I missed one Monistat oral treatment and back it came.  It was gone for about a week.  Back on the Monistat tx today, improving, but of course it is incredibly frustrating. Frown  I hope yours improves and stays away!!!  

  • nofear2012
    nofear2012 Member Posts: 160
    edited August 2012

    How frustrating. Do u gave an appetite & are able to eat? The diflucan has upset my stomach so much. I went & saw my chemo nurse today & she said by looking at my tongue to take the extra diflucan. It is getting better but I still have a lot of white on my tongue. I just want it gone. I start rads on Monday & I wanted to be feeling better.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited August 2012

    Yep, thankfully, appetite is fine, it's actually not affecting me physically at all.  Just mentally/emotionally b/c like you - just want to be DONE.  Can totally relate. It scares me b/c it shows me my immune system still is struggling still at almost 9 weeks PFC. 

  • nofear2012
    nofear2012 Member Posts: 160
    edited August 2012

    Mentally/emotionally I am at the end of my rope. I feel like I am back on chemo. I am holding out til the end of the presc. & then I hope & pray my stomach comes back.

  • nofear2012
    nofear2012 Member Posts: 160
    edited August 2012

    Mentally/emotionally I am at the end of my rope. I feel like I am back on chemo. I am holding out til the end of the presc. & then I hope & pray my stomach comes back.

  • chapter4
    chapter4 Member Posts: 155
    edited August 2012

    Nofear. I fell terrible that you are struggling so much....there has to be more they can do for you....please know you are in my thoughts. How frustrating!

  • nofear2012
    nofear2012 Member Posts: 160
    edited August 2012

    Thanks chapter4 & dancer

  • docziggy
    docziggy Member Posts: 17
    edited August 2012

    Hello to everyone. I just realized that I pretty much dropped off the face of the planet there for a bit. I finished up TC chemo at the end of June and had my lumpectomy at the end of July. Neoadjuvant chemo shrank the tumor almost a whole centimeter, which is just amazing to me. 

    My hair is beginning to come back as a bristly fuzz, which is fun to play with. I did notice that I had a few strays that made it all the way through chemo - they were very fine and fragile. When I clipped them to make everything the same length, I examined one of them and saw that it was gray and white striped! Wild. Am very glad to be past the chemo and surgery hurdles and like everyone else, really wishing my hair would hurry up and grow! Laughing

  • LisaG65
    LisaG65 Member Posts: 65
    edited August 2012

    hey all,

    i finished my 6 rounds of TCH july 17th. I had bilateral on wednesday aug 8th, had them take right uneffected breast as well. no reconstruction. took 4 nodes in sentinal. 4 drain tubes. I have been pain killer free since 5 am on thursday 8/9. was home at 7 pm on 8/9. i used some ice for the first day, but have been fine ever since. the pain was tolerable. i started taking arnica montana pellets the week before and ever since. I recommend you look it up and see if it is for you. I have had a nurse visit my home and change my dressings. I have been sleeping pretty good, hard to sleep upright, as i am a side sleeper. got the call today that my nodes and margins were clear!!!

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