June 2012 Mastectomy

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  • luckykitkat09
    luckykitkat09 Member Posts: 190
    edited August 2012

    taismommy- yeah I think I'm gonna to ask my PS for more..I find it that it hurts to sneeze or cough unless i put my hand between my chest to brace or lessen the pain

  • Jinkala
    Jinkala Member Posts: 193
    edited August 2012

    Well, I told my Mom about the cancer today.  She didn't get too upset which is good but we think it was more that she doesn't really remember what cancer is anymore.  I didn't realize just how much memory she seems to have permanantly lost.  So, I probably will have to remind her why I'm wearing a scarf the next few months when I visit her but at least she won't be dwelling on it when I'm not there.

    Chemo starts on Friday - hopefully with minimal side effects. 

  • Lynn27
    Lynn27 Member Posts: 110
    edited August 2012

    I'm going to sound like a commercial, ladies, but I'm doing a shout out about a wound healing product.  My PS gave me Cica-Care silicone sheets to put on my BMX and TRAM scars until chemo is done.  I was fussing at how thick the scars were already (7 weeks).  It's been a week and I'm really impressed at how much flatter and softer the ridges are.  I think most of you are TEs, and so your scars aren't as big (you miss out on the hip-to-hip one, right?), but they must still be there.  If you're forming a lot of scar tissue, ask your PS about this product.  I'm really liking its results. 

    Jinkala mixed blessing:  your mom isn't worried about you and cancer but she can't give you "mom comfort" either.  I don't know which I'd prefer, not having to worry about a worrying mom or being able to get a loving hug.  We're on the same chemo regimen, we're just going to have to give "mom comfort" to each other.

  • me_4givn
    me_4givn Member Posts: 43
    edited August 2012

    Hello All,

    I have been trying to get back to normal. I started working in my garden again and playing with my horses. I was told not to ride yet so I am working with them on the ground. I am totally filled on my TE's and will see the PS today to find out when the exchange is. I have been able to sleep on my side for the last two weeks. I have not had a "third foob" experience. It could be extra fluid pooling or if you have a fever maybe an abscess starting? Not sure. If there is any concern, make the doc inform you :)

    Good days and bad days are normal. I still have them even after the chemo. One day at a time is the way to go. I found on the days I was really down and had no motivation, I prayed alot and watched a funny movie. 50 first dates is a favorite.

    I started taking my herceptin weekly because of the effects on the heart and I already took adraimycin in the 20's with the Hodgkin's cancer. 32 more herceptin treatments and my exchange then............not sure.

    Have a wonderful week girls ox!

    Jami<><

  • NanG
    NanG Member Posts: 180
    edited August 2012

    tais...thanks for the encouragement!!! *hugs* i have an awesome idea that worked for me to go to sleeping on my side. i can't guarantee it will work but it worked for me.

    as soon as i could i started propping myself over to my side with pillows tucked behind me. so, i used a lot of pillows...like, i think i had five or six with me each night. and i would lay basically on my back, but kind of lean to one side and tuck on pillow under the side of your body that is upwards. so, your body isn't really a 90 degree angle per se but more on a 45 or 60...u see? so, i wasn't like truly side sleeping but, it was enough of a side tilt that i could have some relief that i wasn't on my back. it sounds nuts but it was just what i needed. i could NOT get a full nights sleep on my back. what helped even more was sleeping on the tilt, tucked in with pillows on the one side and then i had a small u shaped pillow for after my mastectomy which looks like a flat neck pillow...i put that on the side of my head that i was turning toward so i could kind of fake sleeping on my side. honestly, every night i found that i could "tilt" a little more until my body and TE were accustomed to the side sleeping position and now i side sleep each night on both sides. at first though, i couldn't tilt sleep all night long, but eventually i got there and last night my friends i not only side slept but i did for like 11 hours!! pretty awesome.

    going for my third expansion today. im pretty excited. i want to have pamela anderson boobs now. lol. wellll....not REAAALY...but, im glad i don't look like the jersey shore gorillas anymore. lol. im actually looking a little "titty" if you know what i mean. like, they're not so weirdly square anymore they are starting to round out at the bottom now. also i dunno if anyone else is like this but my skin that is at the bottom of the incision line has been droopy and hard up until like the last two weeks. SUDDENLY its loose and flexible and all the weird bumpy hard stiffness is fading away! PRAISE GOD!

    ran all this week thinking of you's. today is a run day but im thinking i may wait until tonight to not run immediately after my expansion.

  • taismommy
    taismommy Member Posts: 31
    edited August 2012

    NanG, I can picture all the pillows in position and I will try tonight.

    During my Bmx my PS filled my TE as much as she could 240cc, so I just got my actual first fill today another 20cc in each. She said there is no rush because I still have chemo to get through and recover from before the final reconstruction.

    Thx again for the advice I hope it helps I cant take another night of sleeping on my back.

  • NanG
    NanG Member Posts: 180
    edited August 2012

    oh my goodness ladies. i AM pamela....sans the 24 inch waist and blonde hair.

    i got filled 180cc today!! which i was really glad for, im totally comfortable and dont feel tight in an uncomfortable way. just feels like, full.

    during my surgery i think they filled me to 360 on the table. then my first fill was 60cc. i chickened out and asked them to stopafter 60 bc it felt too weird. they had wanted to do 120, but i wanted to stop. like an hour after my appointment i was mad that i didn't go brave and get the full 120, but...oh well. so i think i had two fills of 120 each and now this one at 180.  so i think im at 720cc now. which is awesome! i still think i need to go way bigger in my mind. im not sure though. i think if i have one more fill of 120 then i will be my regular size.  except higher and attached to my chest, rather than swaying and reaching for my toes...lol. its all odd because in all honesty my boobs were always droopy, even when i was like 16. so i think that plays into my excitement for these new mounds.

    its funny though, like...my whole body image post surgery has actually gone up!  i thought i would be self concious of my scars...and any irregularities. but i look at myself in the mirror now and i like my curves and even like my stretch mark scars n stuff. i went from a M to an XL since my diagnosis but im sure that is coming off little by little now that im running again.

    ohhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my goodness!!! so, i went to the fabric store to get new fabrics to make a new dance outfit.  i dance womens jingle dress in pow wows, and if you arent' sure what that is i'll send a link, there is a youtube video of me and my daughters dancing i think. anyways....i was looking for pink fabric to incorporate into my outfit for breast cancer awareness...and DID I NOT FIND PINK FABRIC WITH LITTLE GOLD JUNEBUGS ON IT!!! okay, so they are technically maybe ladybugs...but they are pink fabric, with the bugs in GOLD kind of silkscreened on there and unless you really examine it, they look like junebugs!!!! so, i bought it. i bought a lot of it and im going to mix it in with some gold jingles and beadwork and some calico flowery stuff to make a new dress to tell the story of the junebugs when i dance!  im so excited! i'll see if i can find that link!

  • NanG
    NanG Member Posts: 180
    edited August 2012

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixcjyhb2jt4

    so, im not actually dancing its footage of my daughters last year at thier first pow wow dancing jingle. im out there with my daughter kind of bopping but not dancing. that day it was like 40C outside!!!!

  • loriio
    loriio Member Posts: 247
    edited August 2012

    NanG - I liked the video and can't wait to see a pic of the new dance outfit with the June Bugs!



    I had an appt with my BS today and got my final pathology report. I was reading the Gross and Microscopic descriptions which I don't really understand but then I got to the sentence that said, "There is an unremarkable nipple and areola.". I know in cancer speak that's a good thing, but it made me laugh so hard. I mean I wasn't spectacular but unremarkable? My sis thinks my nipple tats should be lime green. That way I'll have remarkable nips. Probably a stupid thing to laugh about but I'll take what I can get.



    Hope everyone is doing well with healing, treatment and reconstruction.

  • Lynn27
    Lynn27 Member Posts: 110
    edited August 2012
    loriio:  I agree!!  Patho-speak can be pretty deflating.  My nipples were also considered "unremarkable" but I (and my DH) thought they were pretty good.  Damn, now I'm tearing up.  I still miss them.
  • emilybrooke
    emilybrooke Member Posts: 98
    edited August 2012

    Great video Nan! I am also excited to see your June Bug outfit.

  • Jinkala
    Jinkala Member Posts: 193
    edited August 2012

    LoL at the 'unremarkable' - but be happy for it.  I wish mine could have said that but I guess the Pagets made mine remarkable instead. :P   I can't remember exactly what phrases stood out on my pathology report (it's at home and I'm not) but I think it said 'unremarkable white skin' in a few places on mine.

    I also found it a bit interesting that even though the doctors both told me that they took only two sentinel nodes, the pathology showed that one of those two nodes was actually a cluster of three small nodes.

    Reading the report was interesting though it took a little while to decipher just what some of the things really meant and even longer to realize the implications of a few of them like the Her2 status.  I had assumed that the status didn't matter much since they removed everything, the IDC was tiny and the nodes were clear.  The need for chemo afterwards didn't even cross my mind until I was doing some reading about stuff in my pathology and realized that the MO was probably going to recommend it after all.

  • NanG
    NanG Member Posts: 180
    edited August 2012

    *wahhhhh* i hurttt! these tissue expanders are bothersome now. i repent of being cocky after my fill. i feel like an inflatable raft! if someone threw me in the lake i am convinced that i would float. i actually wouldn't need a life jacket. its' built in.

    i also would like to share that at 720cc i can no longer sleep on my side as i previously boasted about. forgive me...im a jerk.

    on the upside....i loled at loris green nipples. i saw a pic online of a girl who got one tattoo of a nipple and the other side was a cool flower design. looked really pretty. im a chicken. don't want a tattooed anything. i think i miss my nipples too. my kids do. lol. i showed them the scars and the expanders not too long ago so they could see why they have to be careful and my youngest said..."um mommy....what happened to those long things that were on your nin?"  (Nin is what we called boobs) it was cute that she referred to my nipples as 'long things'.  i miss the feeling of having nipples firm up when its cold, but thats about it.

    in other news i faced the music and stepped on the scale this morning....twenty pounds up from my date of diagnosis. which i expected... but im glad that i know what im dealing with now. i knew from going to the docs that id gained some weight...and im actually down from when i had my surgery but im assuming that was retained fluid from iv's n stuff. so....dear junies...i joined weight watchers online. i did it before and got down to 150. that is where i feel the best.  right now im at 188. *eep* i'll bet if i get down to 150 by my exchange i'll have those pamela implants i was hoping for. lol!

    i probably wont though. since i turned 30 i bottom out at 160. even when im really active. ive come to terms with my size and shape and now, am excited for what this journey will bring now that i have started to love myself and appreciate my body and health.

  • luckykitkat09
    luckykitkat09 Member Posts: 190
    edited August 2012

    NanG-

    I'm at 300cc and I can't sleep on my right side still. Don't feel bad. Being an insomniac I rarely enjoy sleeping. I'm slowly and sadly getting used to being on my back now but it takes a while. :(
    It's good that you're comfortable with your weight :) HAHA Pamela implants, although that thought is kinda scary! >_< hahaha

    I lost about 7lbs since surgery and I'm trying to gain it back but lately it feels like my appette is "whacked"..it takes a while for me to gain weight no matter how much I eat. -__-"

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited August 2012

     @kathyhong, enjoy that fast metabolism while you have it!

    Laughing

  • sandpiper1
    sandpiper1 Member Posts: 952
    edited August 2012

    I read messages here often, though had my major surgery (DIEP) in July.

    Path reports can be interesting when they use terms like unremarkable-a word I have come to like ;) but funny when put in terms of the areola/nipple complex. I have not had a chance to actually see mine-can't wait to see what unremarkable areas I had :)

    I too had gained some weight prior to surgery (had to protect that abdominal fat for recon ;) ) and accumulated a lot of fluid during the hospitalization. I was up almost 10# after surgery! Thankfully it has resolved and now I will be on a quest to fight off some of the added weight from prior. I have been walking like mad and tweeking my diet.

    Nan, since you mentioned WW. I am a former member and kind of loose follower of points (the old system).

    I would like to suggest checking out www.skinnytaste.com

    Wonderful array of recipes with WW points included for each. Makes sticking to the plan loads easier. And most recipes are simple without  a lot of complicated ingrediants.

    Let me know what you think. :)

  • luckykitkat09
    luckykitkat09 Member Posts: 190
    edited August 2012

    Curveball-

    Hehe I actually hate my metabolism already haha! I don't knowif it will go away. I have a thyroid disorder so my thyroid hormone drug controls and regulates my menstrual and weight. It never seems to fluctuate my weight except the one time my thyroid level was really low and made me gain 30 lbs which turned me into 120lbs but then my doctor changed my dosage to regulate my thyroid level and I went back to 90lbs again. There's a possibly my plastic surgeon may have to use alloderm during my recon. Since my bmx I have this weird hollow groove on top of my right breast and it doesn't seem to decrease even when I'm getting expanded. He says most likely we will use alloderm but he wants to wait till December to see what exactly what he'll do since I don't have enough fat to use. It'll. Itll be nice if he could use the fat from my thighs though! Wishful thinking ~haha

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited August 2012

    @kathyhong, there is a kind of flap reconstruction that uses the thighs as a donor site, so you aren't just indulging in wishful thinking.

    I don't have TEs, but there is sort of a shallow dip along the upper edge of where my breast used to be. I'm guessing there was a thin layer of fat below the skin that was removed along with the breast. Even quite slender people have some subcutaneous fat. The pectoral muscle is under that, and the TE is under the pectoral muscle, so (if my guess is right) it wouldn't surprise me if it's still possible to feel the edge between where the fat was removed and where it remains, even with TEs in place. Maybe it will smooth out as your TEs get bigger, or the PS may be able to fill it in during your exchange surgery to permanent implants. Maybe that's what he is planning to do with the Alloderm (???)

  • luckykitkat09
    luckykitkat09 Member Posts: 190
    edited August 2012

    Curveball-

    Yep!!!! I would have to ask him on Wednesday during my third fill. So many questions to ask him...

    When I woke up from surgery that shallow curve was very apparant on my right breast. It looks better now but still noticeable. It might be possible to feel where the fat was removed. I did before my first feel but can't anymore b/c of the TE's.

    But I'm also starting to wonder if the more expanded I am will the gap in between my breast become smaller or larger? Cause that definitely freaks me out.

  • my3sunz42
    my3sunz42 Member Posts: 148
    edited August 2012

    I had my last fill up last week Monday - prior to BC i was an "A" cup ... I ended my fills with 485 cc in each. Yowza do they hurt - I can feel the edge of the TEs on each side near my armpit and Nan, I can no longer sleep on my side. Kathy - I asked my PS that exact question regarding the deep 'valley' between my foobs. He purposely over-filled my TEs so during the squishy surgery he can create better 'pockets' which will include cleavage rather than the Grand Canyon I now have. 

  • NanG
    NanG Member Posts: 180
    edited August 2012

    anyone else with TE in feel weird scary lumps n bumps under thier skin? today i was poking around checking out the healing on the scar and i think i felt a teeny bump. not calling it a lump...in all likelihood its a blood vessel or fat chunk or soemthing. but its creepy and a little nerve enducing to say the least. i never had lumps tho. only dcis. so...its making me very nervous. maybe its even a lymph node? i dunno. i have no clue. all i know is that its changing my morning and i don't like that.

    im going to my doc tomorrow to get copies of my path reports from all along the way. i wish it would tell me what gave me bc. but...alas....i'll never know. i think im kind of in that nasty place of doubt. eff this. or maybe just like a relash of fears u know? like...post traumatic worry or something. i feel like i dodged a bullet here and now i just feel like everything is dangerous. its a weird and scary place.

  • my3sunz42
    my3sunz42 Member Posts: 148
    edited August 2012

    Nan - While I haven't noticed any bumps, I understand completely what you're saying about the constant fear. I've experienced it so bad that I had my 1st anxiety attack and then fell into a deep depression. I've got an appt with a phsych oncologist this afternoon. I'm feeling much better than last week, but still not myself. Hang in there ... you're not alone. 

  • loriio
    loriio Member Posts: 247
    edited August 2012

    Nan, I have a small lump on the left TE. PS said its's normal.



    I hope everyone is doing well with treatment and recovery. I've been busy the past few weeks watching the Olympics and getting the kids ready for school. Now the Olympics are over and the kids went back to school today so now I'm having to get back to my normal routine. My 15 year old son has been camped out in his room playing Xbox for weeks and I went in his room and it scared me! I started to clean it and thought better of it. I left a trash bag and step by step instructions of what he needs to do. Boys!



    I meet with my nurse navigator tomorrow to go over my pathology report. Also going to get recommendations for a nutritionist. My fills are going much slower than what it seems like everyone else has, but like Kathy, I have a pretty small frame so I don't have too much further to go. Just ready to try to have this in the rear view mirror. Is that possible?

    Love to all!

    Lori



  • luckykitkat09
    luckykitkat09 Member Posts: 190
    edited August 2012

    my3sunz42- I think that's what my PS will do too. 485cc is not so bad I think.



    Ok so 2wks ago I noticed a black tiny dot on my lumpectomy scar last year around nipple/areola complex. After my shower this morning a pimple like pus came out (no fluid though) I asked my old surgeon and she said to keep an eye on it. So weird what it is though. It was like a zit that popped on its own (gross but yeah)..

  • mariannm
    mariannm Member Posts: 32
    edited August 2012

    so glad to find this string!   I have been in for 3 'fill's.   BLUGHHHH.   Do you all take anything afterwards?  I've been taking a valium and a painkiller off an on for the next 24 hours.   It is very unpleasant, for the first few days anyway.   I've been starting to run again, (very slowly) and I can't do that until 5 days after my 'fill up'.   I have been able to sleep on my side with the assistance of pillows.   But for the first 2 nights after a fill I will sleep in the recliner.  

     I noticed a funny perk of this situation this week.  I keep getting compliments that I look like I've lost wait.  (and haven't lost or gained really).    I realized that it's an illusion ...as I 'grow' I am giving off an  illusion of looking slimmer.    I don't mind that!!   Makes me feel better and less self conscious about the huge grand canyon in my chest. (as an earlier posted callled it).    Does anyone feel like their growing out of their sides?   I'm starting to get more self conscious I think.

  • my3sunz42
    my3sunz42 Member Posts: 148
    edited August 2012

    Mariann - I've gotten the same compliments & haven't lost an ounce - I think it has everything to do w/the new 'perky foobs'. Also, my foobs are located more in my armpit area too - which makes it very difficult to find a bra to wear as most have underwire in them and are very uncomfortable for sideliner boobs. So, this weekend, I removed the underwire in 2 of my new bras - simple slit and removal of the wire ... much better. While I don't need the bras for support, they give the illusion that my breasts are properly shaped.

  • taismommy
    taismommy Member Posts: 31
    edited August 2012

    Hi ladies,

    I am totally pissed today! I went for an iron infusion and they could not access my port, so they sent me to place where it was installed to have an eval. Well turns out my port has FLIPPED and so have I!! Chemo is suppose to start on Thursday and I am having my port removed from my chest and inserted into my left arm. ARGH!! I called my Onc back when I was leaving the clinic and he said we will proceed with chemo Thurs anyway. WTH is that??? Im going to be sore as all shit and he wants to proceed??? I better be getting some serious pain meds and anxiety something because i am a nervous wreck.

    Sorry I dont know if the above makes sense, im so upset.

  • luckykitkat09
    luckykitkat09 Member Posts: 190
    edited August 2012

    Mariann-

    I got the same compliment too. It really is an illusion. Then again I'm still fighting to gain back my list weight... -__- sooo nevermind haha! My expanders are Growning from the sides too and the grand canyon is annoying I feel weird if I wear a tank top :( don't feel bad



    My3sunz42-

    I think I'm used to being braless now o_o



    Taismommy-

    Oh no!!! That's horrible!! I would call back that onc clinic and have them reschedule you! As a patient you have the right to go when it is convient for you! Especially if you're having surgery. Your dr should at least make sure you're comfortable then start chemo.

    -big hugs- my mom had the port too and I can't imagine her having surgery to remove it and starting chemo so soon after. That's just...horrible.

  • emilybrooke
    emilybrooke Member Posts: 98
    edited August 2012

    Finally slept on my right side for a bit last night! It only took 8 weeks post surgery to get there =)

    Taismommy - Your post absolutely makes sense. Plus, you are experiencing a tremendous amount of anxiety about starting the treatment. I am about to go for round 3 of AC on Monday and I get anxious the night before and morning of.  I agree with Kathy, you have to be comfortable with your treatment. If you feel too anxious or are in pain you have to talk to your doctor about it.

  • Lynn27
    Lynn27 Member Posts: 110
    edited August 2012
    Taismommy  from the other side of response (that's what I like about this site, lots of different experiences):  I started my chemo the day after the port was installed.  They leave the needle in place when the chemo is the next day.  I do not have a high pain threshold, but it was not uncomfortable using the port for the chemo.  Nonetheless, I agree that you should chat with your MO about your concerns.

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