Yesterday diagnosed with Lobular cancer

Litha
Litha Member Posts: 11

I woke up crying this morning as yesterday I was diagnosed with Lobular cancer in my left breast. I will need a masectomy. I found a lump 3 weeks ago & two weeks later on my birthday I went in for tests. I have breast implants, I had a mamogram, which showed nothing then ultrasound which showed up the lump. I had 3 biopsys taken there & then & went in the following tuesday for an MRI. I had my results yesterday, I was sure that I would be fine so I went on my own. When I spoke to the consultant & she told me I have Lobluar cancer & will need a masectomy my reaction was ok what do we need to do to beat this thing, and could you please write everything down for me as I will forget it as soon as I leave. The next step for me is another biopsy under my armpit to rule out any spread. Thats not until the 20th of June so I want to bring it forward. I have been given Tamoxyfen to take as its hormone related. I am 42 & live alone with my 6 year old son. I must say I am in shock & really really scared.

I am a very positive person, telling everyone is the hard bit. Peoples reactions are very different. I dont want any fuss or drama as i know i will beat this. I would really appreciate any advice & support as it is difficult to get my head around xx

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  • Cyborg
    Cyborg Member Posts: 848
    edited June 2012

    Please make sure who you tell will be people who really matter to you. Also, I had to pace myself with telling people because I didn't want to get swamped with "those faces." I have ILC. I went through a lumpectomy, chemo and radiation. Finished last September . Now I am on Feraston anti hormonal tx. I'm doing better now. I know there will be other ladies coming along here.

  • vickilind61
    vickilind61 Member Posts: 338
    edited June 2012

    Litha, you have come to a good place.  There are a lot of very smart ladies here and we are all in the same boat; fighting this horrid disease. 

    I had a mastectomy on the 9th of this month and I'm feeling pretty good.  I will be going through chemo starting the 15th and that is a little scary.  Everyone reacts so differently and there is no way to gauge what my SE (Side effects) will be. 

    As for telling folks, you are right, everyone reacts differently, but you do need to tell some people.  Family is first, assuming you get along with yours. (I hope so)  Ask around and find some support groups and those should also give you some guidance on how to speak to your son.

  • mary625
    mary625 Member Posts: 1,056
    edited June 2012

    I had ILC and had bilateral mastectomy, chemo and radiation. Not in that order though...chemo was first. There is so much probably going through your head right now. I would suggest thinking about who you would like to have on your support team and telling them first. You will need support...we all do...but with your son's care, etc. If they are recommending a mastectomy or some kind of surgery first, they are likely going to want to get that done rather quickly after your next biopsy, so I think it's important to get your support team set up right away. You'll need people to help you (driving you, coming to appointments to listen, take notes, groceries, etc.) as well as to take care of your son. Don't feel rushed to tell other people. I did feel rushed, especially pushed by my boss, and there will be a point when you are ready and it gets somewhat easier. You can also ask support team to help with the communication, if you'd like. My son was 19 when I was diagnosed, so it was an entirely different conversation, but my coworker had some younger children and decided not to fully disclose to the younger child about the cancer because there was no way for her to understand that concept at her age. I think she just said that Mommy needed to go to the hospital for awhile and have some other treatments, that she would be okay and that grandparents would be taking care of her while that happened.



    There are so many ways that the women here in the ILC forum can be of help to you. Reading past posts is helpful but I know it can be overwhelming and time consuming. If you need help finding info about ILC, what questions to ask the doctor, understanding the treatment that is recommended or even anticipating what types of treatment you might need, feel free to ask or send a private message to me or others. I am here to say to you that I've been exactly where you are now, and it does get better. It really does. Hugs to you!

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited June 2012

    Hi Litha and welcome,

    As you can already see, you've come to the right place for some great support. In addition to the helpful advice you've received here, you may also want to read the main Breastcancer.org site, including the section on ILC, for all kinds of good information and to help prepare for treatment.

    We hope this helps and best of luck to you! Keep coming back to keep us posted!

    --Your Mods

  • Gitane
    Gitane Member Posts: 1,885
    edited June 2012
    Hello Litha,  I hope we can help you through this.  We remember our experiences so well, and want to help if we can.  You seem so together compared to how I was.  Anyway,  telling people... well I did not just tell everyone right away.  I took my time and seemed to find the right time for each person I needed to tell.  At least that's the way I remember it.  Undecided  Telling them up front what you want, " no fuss ", may go a long way in avoiding what you don't want.  Hugs, G.
  • Sian65
    Sian65 Member Posts: 99
    edited June 2012

    Hi Litha -I remebr the chaos in my brain when first told (although I knew in my gut well before).  Kind of surprised you have been put on Tomoxifen already - that is usually given once you have finished all the treatment.  I have never heard of anyone taking it so early even before the full dx is completed.  I think you should ask why you are taking it now.

    You did a good thing to write it all down - you could also try to voice record your meetings.  You get given a lot of information in a short period of time... it is said that you only remember 30% of what is said so best not to rely on memory alone.

    Remember baby steps, one day at a time.  Also it is good to know that ILC is very slow growing (and very hard to detect in mammograms) so a week or two here and there really will make no difference at all.   Waiting for your SNB on the 20th of June will not harm you - but if it can be sooner then it might easy your worry knowing that treatment is beginning.

    Normally for ILC most tumours are large when they are first detected so most need chemotherapy before and/or after the mastectomy.  All mastectomys are always (I think) followed by radiation.  Then Tomoxifen for 5 years with monitoring.

    It is going to be tough with a little boy to look after - but if you can get just one good friend to be your go to person thats all you need. I suggest you quickly organise a range of regular after school/weekend activities for him that you do not need to attend - to give you more time to rest and take things slower.

    We're all thinking of you.  

  • Wordwrangler
    Wordwrangler Member Posts: 29
    edited June 2012

    Take a trusted friend or relative with you to appointments to support you and to take notes and ask questions. During this time so much informations so fast it is really hard to take it in. My husband was my rock during this time. The journey is so indivdual it is hard to predict. I had surgery, chemo, radiation, now tamoxifen. I've waited almost a full year and just now doing reconstruction. God Bless

  • jukamo
    jukamo Member Posts: 17
    edited July 2012

    Hi.  I'm new to this site, although my diagnosis was about the same time as Litha's - multicentric ILC, which 10 core-needle biopsies confirmed.  All small tumors. But since then, one node was biopsied, unfortunately is also affected.  Clinically Stage 2a.  I am scheduled for surgery this Thursday (!!), July 26 - still trying adjust, get ready, etc.  Although I'm not sure you ever really can....

    So Litha, I understand your nervousness.  I go through phases of being upbeat, everything is going to be okay, processing and absorbing as much information as I can - to being overwhelmed, unsure of what life will be like afterwards, etc.  One of my biggest worries is risk of lymphedema, which I think would severely impact my quality of life; the affected node now requires axial dissection - ugh.... 

     I've been given the option of lumpectomy (big one) or mastectomy. But the possibility that mastectomy may not require post-op radiation has me leaning that way - that and the possibility that there are more tumors not yet detected.  Seems wise to just remove as much as they can.  Because of the risk of radiation, I have also opted against immediate reconstruction.  Still lots of questions on all these issues in my mind, however - I hope I can settle them by Wednesday pre-op meetings with my surgeons.  Or maybe some of you folks have thoughts on the matter?

    From a personal standpoint - no kids, no longer married, but my ex is nearby and very supportive; otherwise, I have a small network of friends, which will just have to do. I've been managing my appointments solo, which always surprises my providers.

    Anyway, that's my story.  Not sure there is a lesson in it - yet.  Wishing you all the best,

    Juli

  • mary625
    mary625 Member Posts: 1,056
    edited July 2012

    Hi, Juli. I had a multifocal tumor that was all sort of one mass with extensions, if that makes sense. I was not offered the choice of a lumpectomy, so I can't help you there. I chose BMX because I too was worried something else would be there. In face, I was being biopsied on the other side right up to a week or two before BMX. Nothing ended up being there, but I feel more protected. I also had axillary node dissection. I did not go straight to reconstruction, and so far I'm still doing fine with that decision. Radiation was in the cards for me. I knew I had one positive lymph node before surgery, but it turned out to be that there were 10. I'm sorry you have to make any of these decisions at all, especially under such time constraints. We are all here to help and support you!

  • Gitane
    Gitane Member Posts: 1,885
    edited July 2012

    Hello jukamo,  Another multifocal gal here, also. I also chose BMX, a left-side mast was already in the cards.  Will be thinking of you Thursday.  My surgery went well, and I anticipate yours will, too.  Let us know how you are doing.  Hugs. G.

  • cwsterling
    cwsterling Member Posts: 18
    edited July 2012

    Litha, I see you have not posted since your original. How are things going for you? I was diagnosed May 15th with multifocal ILC 5/16 nodes involved. I underwent L MRM and lymph node dissection on June 4. Chemo started July 18th. You will need lots of support, the wondering and anxiety of what to expect were the worst for me. Let people help you. My 2 girls are 18 and 20 so totally different situation there.

    Has anyone used penguin cold caps? I started using them the first chemo treatment  and found that though tolerable it is a lot of work and 4 hours after chemo ends is a long time to stay at the infusion center when you don't feel well. Also, to do it 15 more times! I am wondering if it would just be better to embrace the baldness, go with a good wig and get on with my life and not try to hold on to the hair. Then I can't imagine my long hair being gone!

  • jukamo
    jukamo Member Posts: 17
    edited July 2012

    Hi all - sugery went well yesterday, and i am back home today.  Generally feeling good but now spooked by swelling under my ax dissection arm.  Maybe not unusual, but certainly new to me.  Sitting with ice pack and typing with one hand....

  • hlya
    hlya Member Posts: 484
    edited July 2012

    Each time when I see a post like this it reminds me of those days at dx, we've all gone through the hardest time in our life, but ladies here will help you a lot, they will make you feel much better & stronger instead of fighting alone

  • Gypsywinter
    Gypsywinter Member Posts: 4
    edited August 2012
    Hello Everyone...
    Very new to all this...including terminology & abbrev. Tuesday 7/31/12 got the pathology result of ILC, <1cm, left breast. 8/8 will have MRI on both breasts, 8/13 meeting with breast surgeon. I'm up and down emotionally, plus scared witless. My mom lost her life to breast cancer 14 yrs ago and her sister 7 yrs ago...I'm 65 yrs old. Just a year ago I was diagnosed with uterine cancer, had a complete hyster, no rad, my percentages were really good, is why I didn't opt for rad. 4 wks ago had my yearly mammo, came back suspicious, more views, ultrasound and ultra sound guided core biopsy 7/26. I'm frightened that lymph nodes may have been affected and even more frightened if a mastectomy is ordered. Was reading the previous posts and I just hope that I can remain as positive about all this, as seems many of you have weathered the storm. I'm pretty much a strong gal, but these last 3 years have been terrible and emotionally draining. My husband of 43 yrs died of colon cancer June, 2009..then my uterine cancer last year, my 16 yr old grandson died 4/29/2012, now this ILC. I feel so overwhelmed.
  • Gitane
    Gitane Member Posts: 1,885
    edited August 2012

    Hi jukamo,  So good to hear from you and know everything went well.  I think that swelling is normal, fluid probably.  I had some that went away by itself.  It wouldn't hurt to call the surgeon and ask, though.  Maybe it needs to be drained.  You did well typing with one hand and an ice pack!  Please continue to let us know what your next steps are and how you are doing.

    Gypsywinter,  you are certainly jumpin' in to the whirlwind with all your scheduled meetings and scans.   Hopefully you can get the rest and support you need during all of this.  I'm so sorry you have had the terrible losses and cancer experiences.  That has to make this extremely hard and stressful for you. Take very, very good care of yourself.  You can do this, and you're not alone. Let us know if we can help.  There is lots of knowledge and compassion here.

  • Gypsywinter
    Gypsywinter Member Posts: 4
    edited August 2012

    Thank you Gitane...your gentle words are very much appreciated. I will definitely be a participating member here. In as much as some family and a few best friends try their darnedest to understand and be supportive, I've always found those who have walked thru the same fire, in the same shoes to be the best support. Thank you again! 

  • Litha
    Litha Member Posts: 11
    edited August 2012

    Dear all, thank you so much for all of your replys. I'm so sorry I have only just read them as I thought I'd be notified by email of any replys. (I'm not very technical!)

    I had my lymph node biopsy & was told that the sentinel nymph node had the tinyest bit of cancer & all the rest were clear. I had my mastectomy & reconstruction in 16th July. All went very well. I have been very well loved & cared for by my mum & ex partner. I had my appointment today for my results & was told I will not need further surgery. They said they found another 4mm bit if cancer & removed it, that my main tumour was 33cm.

    I was told that it's a 'grey' area weather or not I will need chemo. I do not need radiation though. They said I need to see an oncologist next Wednesday to discuss weather or not I will need chemo. If I was 70 they would say don't bother but age is a big factor im 42.

    I'm so confused as I wasn't expecting to have chemo at all. I will be on tamoxifen for 5 years. There not saying I 100% need chemo or not. I think it will be my choice.

    Please, I would love your advise lovely new friends xxx

    Love & blessings, litha xxxxx

  • Gitane
    Gitane Member Posts: 1,885
    edited August 2012

    Hi Litha,  I'm so glad your surgery went so well and that your family is taking such good care of you.  TLC is so important.  No rads and no further surgery sound great, very encouraging.  As to chemo or not, there was a time when any tumor over 2 cm got chemo, even if there was nothing in the nodes.  That's not necessarily the case now.  (I'm assuming your tumor is 33 mm not cm!) It's not so black and white.  Now they are looking at the aggressiveness of the tumor to help decide.  Here in the U.S. (I don't know where you are.)  the Oncotype DX test is ordered sometimes by the oncologist to help you decide.  There is some research to say that chemo does not work as well in ILC, but that doesn't necessarily mean we do not benefit from it.  Research out of Germany, with longer than usual follow up, is showing that ER+ prognosis may be improved by chemo, more than was previously thought, and that a longer chemo protocol may be even better.  Let your oncologist help you decide.  You may even want to get second/third opinions from other oncologists to help. Since you are only 42 years old, it's possible chemo will be recommended.  Relax, rest, recover.   G.  

  • Litha
    Litha Member Posts: 11
    edited August 2012

    Hello Gitane, yes maybe its 33mm then! lol x They have said that my tumour was not aggressive. I have no knowledge about chemo so i am reading all i can on it. I didnt realise there are different types. I do know that cancer can be carried in the blood so it is possible that there are still some cells in my body.

    Its an awful lot for me to come to terms with, I know vanity shouldnt be an issue but loosing my long brown locks would devastate me. I am preparing myself for the worst though & slowly getting my head aroud it & staying positive.

    Thank you so much for your reply.

    Love & blessings, Litha xx

  • bwah
    bwah Member Posts: 14
    edited August 2012

    Hi Litha

    My onc said to me the same thing: if I was 70, she wouldn't give me chemo, but since I m just 35, she recommended it. I've just finished chemo, no regret. I am in Canada.

    My surgeon said my tumour was not aggressive but more risk of local recurrence.

    Dont know your tumour, LN, Er, Pr and Her2  situations, but hopefully you will make your own choice and no regret!

  • Litha
    Litha Member Posts: 11
    edited August 2012

    Hi Bwah,

    I am expecting that I will need chemo, obviously not looking forward to it. 

    My tumour was hormonal feeding off my eastrogen. I am taking Tamoxifen for 5 years now.

    Thank you so much for your message. Canada eh? beautiful country. I love the rocky's xx

  • bwah
    bwah Member Posts: 14
    edited August 2012

    Hi Litha,

    Nobody here wants to have chemo, another C word, sigh....

    I believe chemo will be doable for you since you are still so young.Laughing

    I had very long streight brown hair too...Dont think about it too much, it will come back anyway!

    My new hair started to grow before chemo had finished (started from my last dose of Fec-D).

    I will take Tamoxifen soon, for 5 years too.

    Keep good thoughts, You will be fine!

  • Litha
    Litha Member Posts: 11
    edited August 2012

    Hello bwah,

    Good to hear you made it through every thing and its nearly over for you.

    I know I shouldnt be vain. I am such a positive person & so far nothing has phased me, my friends & family cant belive how strong ive been so I must continue in the same vain!

    Thank you for your message xx

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited August 2012

    Litha, it is OK to be vain. You may have cancer, but you are still human, thankfully.



    I dealt with the hair loss just fine, boob loss too, but freaked completely over other stuff that was relatively minor, like messed up nails, one nail really. We all muddle through the best we can, and occasional feak-outs are allowed. ;)

  • MrsMom2
    MrsMom2 Member Posts: 13
    edited August 2012

    Hello Girls,

    I found out the hard way that we are not told of a test that can see how far the cancer has spread BEFORE surgery.... it is called a pet scan and I recommend that all women have one before the surgeon performs the surgery.  They missed a 1.5 cm node on me- and it is still in my body. And the surgeon will not go back in to remove it.  I feel like I have been the victim of a 'soft kill'.

  • mary625
    mary625 Member Posts: 1,056
    edited August 2012

    In what way is the PET scan better than the CT scan? And do you know why it is not given to us?

  • Litha
    Litha Member Posts: 11
    edited August 2012

    Hello Ladies, Well, I had my appointment with the oncologist today & was told that I am goin to need chemotherapy for four and a half months, once a week for three weeks. On the positive side its not for that long, & the cancer will be blitzed out of my system xx

  • bwah
    bwah Member Posts: 14
    edited August 2012

    Hi Litha,

    Do you have Fec-D (or Fec-T,they are the same) chemo as well?  'cause I heard for commonwealth countries Fec-D/T  is commonly used.

    If yours is Fec-D/T, I can tell you now that it is really doable.

    xoxo

  • Litha
    Litha Member Posts: 11
    edited August 2012

    Hello bwah,

    I will be having FEC chemo. Is it really? I hope so. I know they have to tell you worse case senario & ive been reading all of the side effects. I am going to use the cold cap.

    xxx 

  • bwah
    bwah Member Posts: 14
    edited August 2012

    Hi Litha,

    I had 3 round of Fec and 3 round of D/T. Each round lasted 3 weeks, so in total it was 4 and half months for me too.

    Do you mean you will just have Fec for 4 and half months? Undecided

    Fec part for me was more difficult than D/T part, 'cause I threw up a lot and pills did not work on meYell. But I heard lots of people never throw up during chemo.Surprised

    Better not to read too much side effects now, since everyone is different and each one's body reacts very differently. So just wait and see.Laughing

    Good luck with chemo!Laughing

    xoxo

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