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  • vina
    vina Member Posts: 9
    edited June 2012

    how old do you have to be to receive ssa?

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited June 2012

    Vina, it depends on your work history and whether you are no longer working because of your disability.



    You says "ssa" so I'm not sure what you are referring to. Regular SSA is not available to you at the earliest until age 62. Again based on your work history and contributions through payroll to SS.



    SSDI, or disability insurance can be available to you if your disabilities can be shown to prevent you from working for 12 months or more.



    You have nothing to lose by applying but you should spend some time on the SSA.GOV website and read everything about disability you can.

  • vina
    vina Member Posts: 9
    edited June 2012

    Thanks for your advice and I will do just that

  • edwh001
    edwh001 Member Posts: 73
    edited June 2012

    Vina if you have a recent work history with enough credits then you qualify for ssdi if not then it's SSI.

    Good luck

    Emmy

  • sharont68
    sharont68 Member Posts: 124
    edited June 2012

    Well guys I recieved my letter to set up pin to online account in the mail. I haven't gotten the award letter as of yet....still waiting.

    Thanks everyone for all your help! Guess I'll wait and see!

  • Mzmerz
    Mzmerz Member Posts: 1,054
    edited June 2012

    Sharon...I was rebellious and went ahead and set up the pin before I got my letter cuz I am just that way.  FYI, it's a 7 digit number, you might want to think of one before hand and write it on your letter.  

    Good luck!

    amy 

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited June 2012

    An old phone number works great.

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited June 2012

    Sharon, congratulations. It sounds like it is going to go well for you!!!!

  • Pazword
    Pazword Member Posts: 5
    edited June 2012

    Hi all. I've reread all the recent posts and I've taken to heart Steven's comment: "bottom line at stage iv...do what makes you happy...and cut out that which does not..." I'm tired, don't want to work any more, and fighting insurance companies re their denial of my appeal for LTD disability has been mentally exhausting. I will be on Hercerptin infusions indefinitely, and even though LTD insurance company acknowledges that I am stage IV, they conclude that I an in "remission" and there's no reason I should not work 40 hours/week at my sedentary job. (Is there such a thing as "remission" for stage IV? wish there was...however, perhaps they are taking the fact that there is no evidence of disease as "remission" right now ... thanks to the Herceptin.)

    My question: do I need to QUIT my job in order to apply for SSDI? (I think I would be approved for SSDI considering the stage IV diagnosis?) Just makes me angry that I would have to quit a job that pays for a good chunk of my insurance, not to mention loss of income, plus the fact that I would definitely have to buy COBRA for 13 months until I am 65, when I have stage IV cancer. While there is "no evidence of disease" right now, I am scheduled for Herceptin infusions every three weeks, plus CAT scans and echocardiograms every 3 months, among other tests as we all know.

    I could try to go back on short-term disability at work (because I've been back to work on a part-time basis for over 6 months, and I think I am eligible again--guess it can't hurt to try?). If that is an option and if I could go back on STD, would I then be able to apply for SSDI? I don't think so because I'd still be getting a paycheck--is that correct? Just need to know if I have to completely quit the company or just not work (STD) before I can apply for SSDI?

    Thank you all. This board truly has such great information.  

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited June 2012

    For the most part, yes, you need to quit your job because your disabilities prevent you from working. That would be the tricky part. Being NED you would have to convince SS disability determination board that you are incapable of working due to your disability. It sounds like that isn't yet the case so it might be an uphill battle even with compassionate allowance.



    SSDI is typically the same amount of $$ that you would get at full retirement age. I'm guessing for you that might be 66 or 67. Do you think you could just go on working until you are eligible for the full SS benefit? Or of course you could apply now for your SS entitlement. At 64 it isn't as reduced as it is at 62. If you have the last paper estimate of benefits from the SSA you could compare $ amounts. If you don't have the paper estimate they now have the estimator online. The hard part is entering your salary for the last 30 years.

    I mean, who keeps that. Ugh.



  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited June 2012

    I thought when I checked the online estimator that they already had the info on my income, lordie I can not imagine trying to enter 30 years of income!

    could be wrong but check it out

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited June 2012

    Maybe you have to create an account and that populates your info. I just looked at it since I didn't need to fill in the blanks. That would make more sense wouldn't it. Duh. (banging head on wall)

  • Mzmerz
    Mzmerz Member Posts: 1,054
    edited June 2012

    They don't mail out the Green earnings statement anymore since they did the online thing, I was told by Social Security a few weeks ago.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited June 2012

    I don't think you necessarily need to quit your job, but you do need to be not working.  So if you go on STD, that's a start.  But usually STD lasts for about 3 months or so (depends on the company) then they switch you to LTD.  At that point you should apply for SSDI.  In most big companies, LTD is designed to get you through the waiting period before SSDI kicks in. 

    Good news for me - I got my notification that Medicare will kick in on 10/1.  That is exactly when I was expecting it so now I'll have to figure out how I coordinate between my existing insurance (through my husband's employer) and Medicare. 

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited June 2012

    LuvRVing, when my husband went on Medicare, phone calls to the insurance comapanu and various Dr office staff took care of the coordination. It was a bit bumpy getting everyone on board and some repeat calls to the insurance clerks were needed. I also had to let the company HR know that Medicare was now his primary.



    Trying to get the old RV road worthy and finding this and that. Retracting jacks yesterday and one of the springs broke. It's always something when they sit too long.

  • SuperFoob
    SuperFoob Member Posts: 505
    edited June 2012

    For those of you that were denied by their private LTD coverage as Stage IV NED:

    Did you have side effects/complications such as chemo brain, fatigue, bone pain?

    Was the company aware of your side effects and still deny you coverage?

    May I ask what company was the carrier of your policy?

    Thanks in advance.

  • edwh001
    edwh001 Member Posts: 73
    edited June 2012

    LTD and SS disability are 2 different entities all together. One can find you disabled and one not. I do believe you need not be working, and if you apply for disability you need to request Teri or compassionate allowance and your claim could be approved in as little as a month or 2.

    Here is a link that may help.

    https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0411005601!opendocument

    Emmy

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited June 2012

    Chickadee - what I need to figure out is whether I stay on my DH's medical plan through work as my secondary insurance or take out a Medicare supplemental plan.  I need to take a look at which one would be less expensive while giving better coverage.  I can also purchase insurance through my prior employer (I am a retiree from that company) and I have about $15k in coverage dollars that I've not used.  The premiums (our contribution) may be less if I go with the Medicare supplemental plan. 

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited June 2012

    Ours was an easy decision since as a union member my husbands company plan is free to us and the coverage is excellent. You are correct to compare yours, especially of it isn't free to you.



  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2012

    Steven - thank you for the response.  Wwwith my brain, I cannot understand what thi meanss

    """No you need the credits to get Title II. You say you need 5 more. Well currently for 2012 a person needs to earn $1,130 to earn each credit (but unlike the old days you o not ned to earn it in each quarter).  see here www.ssa.gov/oact/COLA/QC.html""""

    Is title II the only way?

    I called Binder and Binder annnd was toold I could not get help, being sellf employed, not payying in, not ableee to prove loss of income or something.  

    If I coulld  earn $1130 a quartter, I would use THAT for my tx choices.  No one would hire one who cannot remembre anything, think or tyype.  : ) even me.  cannot even work for myself like this.  

    So I guess it is a no?  

    Wanted to know for ccertaain the results of PET CT and biopsies bczz I maye bee stage IV in one fell swoop, but will not get results until 10th, then will file w SSDI.  But please, for now, clafigy the title II.  Thank you.

    ETA I type like this bcz of lymphedema , now even worse after punch biopsy a weeek agoo.  Not fixing typos, usually fix eac h one though,  an.d I am a writer for living.  yeah

  • tlangston07
    tlangston07 Member Posts: 354
    edited July 2012

    Thank you all for your input..I have been reading thru posts and have a question..I just did my phone interview last Tuesday and received a call today that I had been approved for SS Dis..she said she had never seen a 2 day response which is great news..On the other hand I won't get my 1st check until Jan 2013..Am I allowed to work part time if I feel like it during this time if I don't make more than the $720 per month..Thank you

    Blessings to all!
    Terry

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited July 2012

    if you can work then you arent disabled according to the SSA This might help. Steve's answer previously to a similar question:



    Post a reply Report this Post

    Jun 7, 2012 12:17 PM NMM wrote:



    Laurie



    There are exceptions to every rule.  But this applies to everyone reading.



    SSA approves bnefits to people who have a medical condition that has prevented them from working for 12 months or is expected to prevent work for 12 months.



    So if one applies on 6/1/12...goes back to work on 10/1/12 while waiting for a decision...and gets denied on 12/1/12 it may very well be because they went baclk to work which oroved they did not have a  a medical condition that has prevented them from working for 12 months or is expected to prevent work for 12 months.



    So while SSA does let a person attmepted to go back to work after being found disabled in nearly all cased one most not work for at least 12 months before trying to go back to work.



    And yes I know, how does SSA expect someone to not work and survive until a decison is made or on the little $$ the beenfit it is.  Well they just do expect that.



    Steven



    Dx 6/3/2011, IDC, 2cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2-

  • silentbell
    silentbell Member Posts: 266
    edited July 2012

    Steven,  Thanks soo much for doing this and everyone else who've been helping.  Please forgive me for not reading entire thread, more lazy than busy.

    My wife was approved and she applied for compassionate allowence.  They wanted to start the application from the date of diagnosis,  I wanted to start from date of stopping work ( 15 months difference ).  It caused a delay but approval was quickly given after the date of work stoppage was used.  The rep we talked to said after approval the checks will show up in your account in about three weeks.  After the reapplication the new rep said there is a 5/6 month waiting period and I said what about the compassionate allowence?  She said that only gets a quick approval, still have to wait?????  Didn't think to ask if it was going to be 5/6 months retro when the checks come in.  I know they make mistakes all the time with their info.  I would like to know the deal before I go back and deal with the different stories I've been told.

    Thanks so much.

  • scuttlers
    scuttlers Member Posts: 1,658
    edited July 2012

    Silentbell - there is a six month waiting period. Compassionate allowance only expedites the approval. The checks will not be retroactive to the work stoppage date. There is always a six month waiting period (from date of not working) whether approval was based on compassionate allowance or if regular approval (which can take months or even years to get approval). There is a lot of information on the SSDI website.

  • Lauriesh
    Lauriesh Member Posts: 692
    edited July 2012

    I wonder if this is because you chose last date of work instead of date of diagnosis. I thought that I have seen some women get money right away because they continued to work after they were diagnosed stage 4 and then filed 6 months or a year later, but used date of diagnosis on the application.





    Laurie

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited July 2012

    I don't remember the app asking for date of diagnosis, only the last date you were able to work.



    There have been posts where money was distributed surprisingly fast and I've never been clear on what circumstance contributed to that. Could be different states following the process somewhat more lax than others.



    As Scuttlers said, the SSA.gov website has a great deal of information.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited July 2012
    I got money within a few weeks because the SSA backdated my disability to my first BC diagnosis.  It was a very pleasant surprise.  I hadn't been working since that time and taking into account the required waiting period, I received a year's worth of payments in a lump sum.  I don't know how it happened - I suspect one of my doctors said something that caused them to go back to the original diagnosis date.  In my application, I had used the date of my second occurrence.  I think I applied mid-August and I got the money mid-October.
  • scuttlers
    scuttlers Member Posts: 1,658
    edited July 2012

    The key is that you had not been working since date of diagnosis.

  • CoolBreeze
    CoolBreeze Member Posts: 4,668
    edited July 2012

    I have a question.  I'm in California.  I'm Stage IV and my doctor has done that paperwork stating I have a year to live and my condition is terminal.

    I worked up until a month ago and then just couldn't do it anymore.  A negotiated benefit for me (I was in SEIU)  is a year of terminal illness leave with my pay.

    I applied for SSDI, believing that a benefit does not count towards the SSDI.  

    But, I don't wnat to cheat or anything - I did put on the form that I would have another source of income.

    I've not heard anything as yet.  Does my terminal illness disability leave preclude me for getting SSDI?  I also have a 15 year old son and wanted to start whatever process it will take for him to get my benefits when I'm dead.

    Thank you. 

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited July 2012

    Ann, I believe I've read someone else on here who was receiving LTD from work and SSDI. I think the LTD might have been offset once the SSDI kicked in but don't hold me to that.



    Good time to follow up with your state disability determination board to be sure they have your documents and are aware of the compassionate allowance designation. Not sure if it would be the SSA office or the DIS board who puts the process in place for your son. Worth checking them both.

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