Starting chemo Thursday, May 31 - June Group?
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havingfaith - You are one day ahead of me on the same regimen. You might have mentioned that before. I am in the BGC tomorrow for my last AC! Yahoo!
Pamela - not just walking, but running? Good for you! You are doing great.
mom24boyz - I also work with preschool aged children. I'm a speech-language pathologist. All of my students have special needs. it's been great having the summer off between being able to rest and being away from their snotty noses! I will have finished 5/8 treatments before I have to go back to school. The timing has really worked out great.
StephanieJM - I'm so sorry that you're feeling blue. I hope you feel better soon. I totally understand how you're feeling. This is getting very old, but we are halfway there and we can do it!
I left my house about 2 hours ago to get some DVDs from the library. Luckily, I told my husband that I might stop at Pier 1 afterwards, or he might have worried about me. I didn't find what I was looking for there (although I managed to spend $20.) so I went across the street to TJMaxx. I felt like I had to get lots of shopping in tonight since I'm in the BGC tomorrow and will probably be out of commission for the next several days.
On a happy note, my 16 year old returns from a month in Israel tomorrow! I can't wait to see him. I am sad that I'm going to miss going to the airport to get him.
On a less happy note, my mother saw a neurologist today and was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease. She said he also mentioned something about Alzheimer's, but she couldn't remember what it was. I couldn't go to her appointment with her because I was at my own pre-chemo appointment. I'm hoping to be able to go with her for the follow-up. She is a very strong woman, having had many battles in her life, including BC twice. I hope the meds he's prescribed will help her.
I hope everyone is doing well and has a good night. I'll probably check in during tomorrow's infusion.
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Tomorrow is my last infusion and I am thrilled! YAY! Swelling legs, arms, and torso but still glad its going to be over soon.
Suggestions for swelling? Lasix seems to have only slight affect.
VVH
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VVH - Congratulations on being so close to the end! I'm sorry, I have no suggestions for swelling.
Today will be my last AC, so I'm halfway there. I felt so good yesterday (except for my mother's news) and got so much done. I'm dreading starting the feeling of not quite normal again. I really shouldn't complain, as my SE have been minimal.
I asked the NP about the anti-neuropathy mixture that Special K recommended. She gave it the go ahead. She did say that studies have been inconclusive, but that it won't hurt. We are concerned about the neuropathy for me because I've had some during AC and it's usually worse with Taxol. She said that she isn't aware of many women who have iced their nails at my cancer center and she's only seen a few with nail problems.
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Marcia1111- Good Morning to you!!! Sorry to hear about your Mom. Sending you plenty of hugs and prayers to you and yours. Good luck on your last A/C today and minimal side effects for you sweets.
I'm still icing my nails during my Taxotere infusion and keeping those nails polished with clear nail polish. So far so good on the nail front. I figured it couldn't hurt to do what I had to do to prevent nail damage and glad I'm doing it. If your onco doesn't have a problem with the icing, and you want to do it, just do it. It may seem to be inconvienent to do it but rather deal with a little coldness for a short while than with nail damage later. If you need to some help with the icing, let me know. Make sure that you use rubber gloves when washing dishes and get used to not using your fingernails as tools to open things.
I have a little neuropathy but it passes. I just wiggle those toes and fingers of mine when i do. I do get momentary finger cramps but I just bend those fingers gently and everything starts moving again.
Good luck today and have an easy and peaceful time in the Big Girl Chair!!!! Just look back at the night before you started your first round....... you've come a long way, girlfriend!!!!
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I'm lucky that I have a lot of year of service and had already hoarded my vacation days up to the max allowable. That has definitely helped with work. Like KeepMoving said, it seems sad to use vacation days for this, but at least it's a paid day! My 3rd infusion is actually the week we had already scheduled our summer vacation before this all started. It isn't till Thursday, so I'm thinking the first half of the week should be the days I'm feeling pretty well with my counts heading back up.
I did have bone and CT scans, and I can tell you first hand that they can cause more stress than they save if you fall into the "gray area" results. My CTs need re-run 3 months from the first date to check for changes in little things that showed up and I hadf to have additional U/S follow up on a few spots. They are so sensitive, that they pick up things that may or may not be a problem.
Kimmie, I had surgery first in May, then then chemo. In my case, the tumor size drove the process. I had 3 tumors, all 1 cm or less. To those who still have surgery coming, it is easier than the chemo! Like everything, the anticipation/waiting is the worst of it.
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morning..went to the BGC yesterday..and got rejected!!!! Low platelet count..way low..drop from 121 to 43..normal low is 142..according to the print out..feel fine..no bleeding or bruising..but sure was disappointed..dang..had all the chemo dates and nadir points written on a calender..screwed that up..LOL..
also worried..is the three weeks between tx to give body time to recover? or is the time critical to the cell death of the cancer? didn't think to ask doc..go back next week to retry for nuther "cocktail" of poisen...
funny how I wanted it soo bad..
also lightening struck the direct tv system..zapped the phone..and killed the sound on big tv..bummer..doesn't bother me too much but hubby and step son are totally lost..LOL..
ya'll have a good day..
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Keepmoving- I had a scan right before I started chemo and now I have been worrying about a spot on my liver. Sometimes I feel like its better to not know. Dr said that we will go with tx as planned and check later to see if it grows. He also said it might be just a cyst. And after reading all the post I hate the idea of getting another scan with the thought that it might cause cancer. Hang in there!
Kimmie- I'v already had surgery and only had a ct scan right before I started chemo. My BS didn't even give my a chose with a mastectomy or lumpectomy. He just said I needed a mastectomy because of the size of the tumor and the size of my breast that there wouldn't me much left of me to save. Then I did opt to have the other side removed.
Pam- I think you have it right about drinking your water. Today is my second day after #4 and I already feel better. After I had tx 2 I had a very scratchy throat that made it hard to swallow so I don't think I drank enough going into #3.
Stephanie- My nurse did tell me yesterday that taxol is a little easier, but it comes with different side affect like the numbing and tingling in the hands and feet. She said to just make sure to take a multi vitamin.
Take care Everyone!!
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Keep Moving: I had an MRI, and that is all. No CT, no PET. And my cancer is extensive throughout my right breast. They said it's "very diseased". I am not terribly concerned about it. I imagine another MRI will be in my future before surgery. They seem confident of no lymph involvement.
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Marcia- So Sorry to hear about your mom. It is amazing how strong us women can be when we need to be. Good luck today on your last A/C, I actually feel pretty good today. Tomorrow my third day is usually the hardest. And Yeah! that your son will be home. Yesterday my youngest turned 10, I felt bad that I was sitting in the chair, but an aunt was able to take him and a friend to a water park and he had a great day.
Huggs to all
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Marcia: I am sorry about your mom's diagnosis. Sheesh. Just one more thing! Glad your boy will be home soon! Hope your mom is doing well. Let me know if you need anything, ok? AND CONGRATS!!! Last AC!!
Pam: How are you feeling now that AC is all done?
VVH: I had some wicked water retention yesterday. Like 4-5 lbs. worth. I just pushed fluids (which I have not been really slacking on, but it has been unusually hot up here) and my weight was normal this morning. Make sure you are making your kidneys work girl!
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Thanks for all your words of support. It really helps. My son's flight was delayed and my infusion seemed to go very fast today so I was able to go to the airport to get him! I'm so happy that it worked out! I think he was a little shocked when he saw me in my headcovering, but he recovered quickly and mentioned that it was good that I still have eyebrows. When we got home, he told me I look beautiful. He's never said that to be before and it made me feel really good.
I am so happy to be done with AC! It sounds like a lot of us are at the halfway point. I hope we all have minimal SE as always!
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Marcia, I am sorry about your Mom. My stepmom has Parkinson's. She has had about twenty years. She is in her 80's now. I am glad to hear your son came back. You must of missed him. I am so happy you had your last a/c!!!
Ellebee, That is a lot of water retention! Hope you are doing well. Good you are drinking a lot of water.
Havingfaith, Glad you are doing well on day 3. Happy Birthday to your son! Glad he had fun at the waterpark. Funny, you should mention the scratchy throat. Chemo makes my throat hurt. I am not sick.
Doris, I am sorry your chemo got cancelled. I get upset about that happening too. Call up and ask to try again next week. Good luck. You can ask and try!
Pam -
Forgot to mention I start taxol next Thursday and I have to take 20 mg dexamethasone the night before. I never took a steroid before except in chemo iv. Sounds powerful. I am scared. I picture raiding my refrigerator and not sleeping. Just four more...
Did anyone every take this amount before? Pam -
Pam, I take dexamethasone for 3 days post AC chemo now to help with the nausea. I have a little trouble sleeping with it, but I had trouble before too. Some people say their appetite increases, but I didn't notice that. Otherwsie, I've not had side effects from it...or else they just blend in with the rest of them! Good luck with "Part 2" of chemo!
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Everyone,
Hello, long time no see. I'm so sorry, my work schedule has been unbearable, and Billiemae hadn't had treatment....well all of that has changed. Her OC offered to give her the same regiment and it started off without a hitch, but I'm sending this out from the ER! I received a call from our roomate while on the jobsite and was informed that she had another fever, so I rushed home and took her to the ER. Now we are waiting for all of the test results and to find out which room, they're admitting her again. With only 2 treatments left it would be nice if they could finish this out, but I have doubts because of these complications(life threatning)! So we are back in a hold pattern again, right now I would just love to hear that she free of this fever and ready to return home. I really have missed ya'll and will make an effort to be so self absorbed, and post her progress more often! I miss the support, ya'll are awesome!!! We just lost a Facebook friend 2 days ago, she started chemo the same time that Billiemae did...my heart and prayers go out to you and your family!!!
Thank you for being here,
Steve
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Pam: I am pretty sure that is the steroid they give me in the IV before the Taxol. I don't take it orally, just in IV form. I have not had any increased hunger. If anything, my appetite is reduced. I have noticed that it makes me drowsy when it is going in. It usually goes in before the benadryl. Prednisone makes me drowsy too. No weight gain either...not a bit. It does give me atrocious acne though. On my face and scalp, and no where else. Hopefully you won't have that! Hope you are feeling better and better!
Marcia: Your son sounds sweet and wonderful. You are raising a very nice young man!
Off to teach, although I would rather nap
ElleBee
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Steve: Oh No! Not again! So sorry for your troubles! I hope Billiemae is better soon and able to finish out chemo too. What the heck is causing these fevers? Keep us posted, and I will be sending you both lots of positive thoughts and energy! Take care of yourself and Billiemae!
ElleBee
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Ellebee, Good luck teaching tonight! You are terrific!
Steve, I am sorry Billiemae is having fevers. Is it her wbc? My thoughts and wishes go out to you. I hope you both are ok. It is stressful.
Pam -
Steve and Billiemae- So glad to hear from you, Sorry that Billiemae is having such a hard time. My prayers are with you. And Sorry to hear about your facebook friend. (((HUGS)))
Marcia- My last tx wasn't shorten by a hour also. I'm so glad you were able to be there to pick your son up. Those are the little things I live for. It sounds like you have a beautiful family. My 12 year old who is away at music camp took the time to track someone down with a cell phone so he could call his brother yesterday to wish him a happy birthday. That just made my heart swell 10x it size.
Pam- I haven't heard of dexamethasone. 20 mg sounds like a lot.
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Steve-Billiemae - I hope that the docs can get to the bottom of the fever! And that she can continue with treatement.
Pam - dexamethazone is also called decadron . . . I am given 12mg right before my AC . . . then on days 2 and 3 I take 2x4mg (2 doses of 4mg, one morning one night). The bottle says for nausea, but it is a steroid nausea. I just got my orders for the first Taxotere and I am to take 16mg the day before, day of and day after treatment (8mg morning, 8mg evening). So far I have found that I dont sleep well on the first few days, but I am also getting up to pee a lot then and struggle with the swelling. I also think so far (knock on wood) that #4 is going to be better than #3 . . . one thing I am doing differently is to drink more fluids. I am struggling with what goes down, but water with lemon helps, along with some tea and apple juice. I am also drinking powerade/gatorade, but TMI Warning - when I drink the purple ones (my favories) I notice my bm is green! well a greenish-brown. But as long as I am going I dont really care what the color is.
Doris - sorry about treatment being delayed, but it is best to be as healthy as possible. And the 3 week timeframe is so that you can recover and have good counts to begin with. Although it sucks to delay it, im sure they are just looking out for you.
I forget who mentioned it, but I asked my doc about nail issues with Taxotere and she said that the nail issues are only if you do it once a week, but since i will be doing it every 3 weeks I should be ok. I also showed her my nails - they have these pink and white lines going from the cuticles - she didnt seem concerned and that it would grow out. She doenst recommend any supplements, but I may do b6 and glutamine anyway.
As for scans - I had a MUGA, bone scan and CT (without contrast) done before. I think that if you do herceptin you have more scans as that can do more damage. I personally hated the muga and bone scans . .. and that is where I got my screenname from - it was freaky to walk into the nuclear medicine room, complete with a giant radioactive sign on there. The bone scan left a nasty taste in my mouth too - yuck! I do get where my heart races a little/I can feel my heartbeat just sitting there, which worries me a little, but I am glad to be done with the AC as I think Taxotere isnt that hard on your heart.
On the surgery - I expressed my desire for a lumpectomy from the start. They started to tell me that the tumor was too big, but then I think it was the general surgeon that actually mentioned that they could do chemo first to shink it then do a lumpecotmy. the surgeon and oncologist seemed ok with that, but the ps seemed to think there would be some cosmetic dimpling. I think it all depends on how much the chemo will shrink it. But I think it is just as common, if not more to do surgery first then chemo.
Marcia - glad you were able to see your son! But too bad aobut your Mom :-(
AFM - I had my last AC yesterday and I had a major meltdown in the chair. First of all, I have had a different nurse for each infusion and I have noticed that some are faster than others. I was in the chair for 2 hours before I got the drugs. She hooked up the iv and started the saline flush, but by the time the drugs were ready I was having these weird pains in the area. After much deliberation I had her redo the iv . . . then she couldnt get it, and finally she got a good one on my hand. I was so frustrated I began to cry . . . and continued to do so for the whole adriamycin push. I was just starting to recover from round 3 and mentally was not prepared to go again, but knew i had to be a big girl. I was dealing with it ok, until I realized it had been 2 hours, then the iv issues, and I was getting hungry. I think that all contributed. I am feeling much better today - I did take a 3 hour nap and prior to infusion I was drining water like it was going out of style. . . at one point I thought I would float away! I think that helped. Plus, I dont remember who or where they said it, but I love the saying - Sometimes the chemo has to come out of your body in your tears.
wow, I wrote a book! sorry for typing your ears off.
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radioactivegirl- Sorry you had such a hard time yesterday. I seemed to have cried all the time after tx 3. I also like that about the chemo has to come out in tears. I'm glad your doing better today!
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steve - It's good to hear from you, but I'm so sorry to hear that Billie Mae isn't doing well. I'm sending healing thoughts and prayers to you both.
ElleBee - I hope class goes well and you can sleep afterwards.
havingfaith - That is such a beautiful story about your son. I love when they show each other love like that.
radioactive - I'm so sorry that you had a rough time with your infusion. I think tears can be good, but mine sting on AC. Do yours? Keep drinking whatever you can. I think it makes a huge difference.
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Radioactive, I am sorry about your infusion. We have to be so strong and it is really overwhelming. I hope you are able to get the lumpectomy. Even if you get some dimpling it still seems nicer than reconstruction. I spent the afternoon looking at reconstruction pictures and it was so depressing. I may opt for nothing if I can't get natural results. I am braca2 positive and I had some slight nipple inversion when I lean forward. I am getting everything off.
When I went shopping a lady showed me her lumpectomy with radiation. There was skin dumpling but it did not look bad, it was still her real breast.
Also, sort of interesting, but another lady showed me her mastectomy with her prothesis in a bra. She did not look bad either. She was middleaged and was average weight. It looked good on her. I think I would look too skinny to handle the flat look. Rambling here....
I have heard about all the women traveling to NOLA on the boards but I don't see how I can do that with having children.
Is anyone else undecided too?
Pam -
i have another test scheduled wed and thur of next week....they seem to be unending..this one is orecnascan(i think)..2 days...then i start chemo on aug 1...i have not had any fear until now..i fear being sick..i keep hearing its only a day or two....but if its not so bad why all the nausea medication...thank god for the chemo and radiation..hope it does the job......but it still scares me......my thoughts are with anyone else going through this..i was diagnosed may 2012...
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Maxip,
I too was scared of chemo. It is not pleasant but doable. I just finished the adriamycin cytoxan and start taxol. The nausea with the meds was sort of like being pregnant. The medicine keeps you from throwing up. I did have aversions to food. That while unpleasant did not bother me as much. The fatigue got to me more. Day one chemo day is not bad, day two not bad, day 3-5 you will feel fatigued and lack of stamina. However, that varied a lot among the women here. The good news is I don't feel a breast lump. Make sure you drink a lot of fluids. It seemed to help.
I understand being scared though. I am apprehensive of taxol now as I have not done it. I am not scared of adriamycin as I already did it. It is the apprehension of the unknown.
Good luck to you!
Pam -
Maxip - chemo scared the crap out of me too, but I am getting by . .. dont let my story scare you - After the second round I posted that i *almost* felt normal again. Each round has been different for me, and like Pam said Drink Lots of Water! or gatoratde/powerade. I loved coffee before chemo, and in the beginning I had absolutely no desire for it. The other day it smelled good so I had a cup and it was just so-so . . . and I felt the acid getting to me. I dont really have nausea - and if you do, you should get the docs to change your meds - they have a bunch of meds to work with so if one doenst work for you, ask for another. And the fatigue is doable, the food aversions are more annoying than anything but doable. What chemo will you be doing?
Pam - I am curious to know how the breast feels after radiaiton though. I heard it can feel a different texture and just be different. But if I had the gene, I would probably get them both taken off . .. but I hear it is easier to have them reconstructed together than with a umx. My grandma had a umx a long time ago and never had reconstruction, and my Dad told me he asked her if she wanted it and she said no but didnt get the reason. I guess I am getting cold feet on radiation and the damage it can do, but I would prefer to have my own breast tissue. I need to do some research on how bad the skin damage to the area is. But then I fear it coming back too and a mast seems like a better way to prevent recurrence. I will ask my doc about doing an oncotype test. I also only came up weakly ER postive (between 1 and 10%), which makes me very close to triple negative. But as one of my friends said about my chemo, surgery and radiation . .. . that they are knocking the nasty out of me.
Marcia - hmm, no my tears did not sting, but aside from yesterday I have not really shed any tears. Interesting. I think my tears sometimes sting my face depending on what moisturizer I use - I havent narrowed it down to what brand, etc, but even before bc I had an incident where my tears left a red mark on my cheek . . . and at the time I wasnt taking any meds or anything.
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Hi Pam,
I noted your comments about Zofran causing headaches. After a hassle with the insurance over the cost of Emend, we got a perscription but they still send Zofran through the port each week before chemo. We only have the Emend for the three days following chemo. Am I clear in understanding that you omit the Zofran IV by taking Emend before? The headaches the first night are incredible for my partner. You don't have problems with nausea with Emend alone?
Thanks,
Ginna
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Ginna, It is not Zofran that goes through the port. Emend goes through the iv as a pre med before infusion.
I take Emend one hour before chemo even though in the infusion, my second pill on day 2, third pill on day 3. It controls the nausea. I still experience a low grade food aversion that nothing could touch. However, I just asked for a script for ativan, smallest dose, and that helps. Ativan is anti anxiety and anti nausea.
For my first infusion, I did zofran. I did not get a headache but I was popping a pill every eight hours for days. I had constipation from that.
Emend is the superior drug. I guess Zofran is cheaper so they use that. Zofran works too but I liked Emend so much better.
Pam -
Ginna, Sorry, just noticed you are doing taxol. I was writing about emend and adriamycin/Cytoxan.
I start taxol this Thursday. I hear the nausea with taxol is much less than /c. I am not sure if I need the emend with taxol like I did with a/c. However, I called up and I will be taking emend the same way I did with adriamycin.
Pam -
So my statement about emend going through the port with a/c is true. However, now I am questioning the premeds with taxol? I hope not zofran...
However, if it is and it is causing your partner headaches they are good about adjusting premeds if they could. For example, I have them leave out ativan in my premeds it made me dopey.
Pam
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