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  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited July 2012

    Tazzy, I feel the same way - fortunate to be able to rest when I can and not have work or other obligations other than my kids - who are pretty self sufficient and who I have help with.

  • lisa2012
    lisa2012 Member Posts: 652
    edited July 2012

    Re taxotears: I did not have it until a few days into round 4. Today ( day 26 PFC) was one of the worst. Years about 80% of the day. I had to take a .5 Ativan because I was so upset- burst into REAL tears in a big shopping mall with DH. I felt so different from ME. Looking like I am crying most of the day was discouraging. Fortunately we stopped in the hills and did wine tasting later and that was relaxing.

    I hope it starts to lessen soon.

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited July 2012

    Awww lisa, I'm sorry :(  Sounds like a rough day.  (((hugs))) hope you get to feeling better.

  • Oneworld
    Oneworld Member Posts: 1
    edited July 2012

    Hello guys,

    I'm starting tomorrow! I'm beyond scared I have read a lot online but nothing is putting my mind at ease. Anyways just wanted to start posting and sharing. When do the initial side affects kick in?

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited July 2012

    oneworld.... I wont say dont worry - we all worried... the anticipation is way worse than the treatment, really it is.   But glad you found us - we will help you through the first one and then, you'll see the next is not so bad but we'll still be here.  Remember, chemo sucks, its hard.... but it bloody works and thats what we want.

    Take care hon - we're here for you.

  • PaEaglesFan
    PaEaglesFan Member Posts: 277
    edited July 2012

    Oneworld, I was in your shoes 2 weeks ago and Tazzy is right, the anticipation is the worst part.  I go for #2 next Tuesday and I won't say that I'm looking forward to it, but I am much calmer because I know what to expect now.  My Dr gave me a pre-chemo cocktail of Aloxi, Dexamethasone, benadryl, famatodine and Emend and I had no noticeable side effects.   My nurse told me to take one of my anti-nausea pills before bed that night and another one when I got up in the morning and I only had a wee bit of queasiness on the 2nd day which I quickly took a pill to nip in the bud!
    I read a lot of posts and it seemed that day 13 or 14 was the big day for the hair fall out, so I had mine buzzed off last Thursday night.  I noticed that my hair seemed a lot dryer and I wasn't able to style it as well as I had before... a sign that it was dying?  I'm sure glad I did it because on Saturday I noticed I was losing hair "someplace else"!!  
    Take a deep breath tomorrow morning and tell yourself.. "I don't have to be brave, I just have to show up."  The nurses will take wonderful care of you :) 

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited July 2012
    PAeaglesFan- I did notice that my hair seemed a little lifeless and drier right before it started to fall out.  As for the rest of the body hair,ost but not all hair fell out on the legs, arms, arm pits, and down south.  My eye brows and eye lashes have started to thin but I already see new growth where my eyebrows fell out.  I still have very very sparse head hair and some stubbies and peach fuzz.  My onco's research coordinator told me that the peach fuzz will come and go until I am finally finished with chemo.   She told me she was surprised to see that I still had hair that has managed to hang on during the 4 treatments I've already had!!!!  I already know that the eyebrows and eyelashes may go after I finish chemo.  At least my body has spared me of total hair loss!!!  I have #5 tomorrow which means one more chemo down and only one more to go!!!!
  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited July 2012

    Oh! and the plus side of getting your hair buzzed - apart from it keeping you in control - is that your scalp will be painful where the hair follicles die off... no one warned me about that.   Soon as it is buzzed - the pain goes. 

    Melrose... good luck on #5 tomorrow.   You wait until your final one - oh! happy days.

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited July 2012

    Oneworld  - good luck with your first TX.  You will feel much better about things once you get this first one out of the way.  As far as SE, it varies - the people that seem to have the pain and issues start a few days after TX - maybe day four?  Are you having Nuelasta after TX to boost your counts - that causes me more issues than the TX itself.

    PA - I noticed before mine started going that when I would wash it, it would have this weird feeling when it was wet, almost like it wasn't "real" hair.

    Melrose - good luck tomorrow.  I have the peach fuzz on my head too - I wonder if that will all go before "real" hair comes in or if some of it will stay?

    On the topic of hair in general - my leg hair has never totally stopped growing, albeit slowly but my underarms had - totally smooth, nothing.  I noticed in the last week or so that it is starting to come back - sigh...I could've lived without that.

    Funny story from yesterday.  I noticed my thumb was feeling really weird, almost numb and painful and I thought "oh boy, here comes the neuropathy"  But then I thought, why would it just be one thumb?  Then I was like "duh."  We had rented Super Mario Bros for the Wii and I had literally played it ALL day - with and and without the kids.  So yeah, can't blame that on the chemo!

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited July 2012
    kltb04- Thanks.  I'm looking forward to getting another chemo round done and over with!!!  I had my echocardiogram today for the Herceptin B-47 clinical trial.  The results come out tomorrow afternoon.  I talked to the research coordinator about my hair.  I've had some hair all over my head that never fell out since I started chemo. I also have new stubbies and peach fuzz.  She said the peach fuzz may fall out again after my remaining rounds of chemo.  But I look at it as a good sign of the fuzz coming and going that my poor little hair follicles want to make hair.  Just have to have a lot of patience with the hair thing.  Hope you are feeling okay!!!
  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited July 2012

    Melrose - have you got your echo results yet? 

    So far my only SE this time (after my Nuelasta pain for a day or so during TX week) - is the big "D" - it will start a week or two after TX and last several days.  Of course, last nights may have been the results of too much food and a drink.  Went to dinner with my SIL and had one drink of some strawberry concoction at the restaurant and it hit me about midway through the movie that my tummy did not appreciate it!

  • Alicethecat
    Alicethecat Member Posts: 535
    edited July 2012

    Hello LHJL

    RE: Onc said that some of those who had side-effects with FEC get less severe side-effects with Taxotere

    That is certainly the case for me, on the whole, although I have got red blotches down my arm where the Taxotere leaked out. It's PICC time on Thursday.

    But on the whole, I am finding Taxotere much easier than FEC and feeling much better after the infusion. Day 5 to 7 seems to cause a high temperature but that's about it and then it goes.

    I am on a reduced dose, however.

    You mentioned you might ask your onc for a reduced dose.

    Did you ever follow through on this?

    Best wishes

    Alice 

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited July 2012

    ktbo4- Cute picture of you.  My results from my echocardiogram came back great!!!! I'm a happy girl.  I met with my onco today before my treatment.  She says everything looks fine and my case will be going before the Tumor Board to get their opinion on radiation treatment or not.  I'm in the gray area for getting them.  I 'd love to avoid them but of course, if I have to I have to and will do what I have to do to get healthy and stay healthy.  i told her my biggest concern was the that I did not want my heart or lungs to get hit by the radiation.  She said that the radation treatments have improved over the years and more precise.  I hope she is right.  So now I have only one more treatment to go..... #6.  Time has gone by quicker than i thought it would and the treatments and side effects have been very doable for me.  Thanks for checking up on me!!!  Hope you are feeling well and resting!!!  HUGS!!!!

  • PaEaglesFan
    PaEaglesFan Member Posts: 277
    edited July 2012

    Hope everyone is having a wonderful day and feeling well.  It's day 15 after my 1st treatment and the stubble I have on my head is hanging in there and I was able to enjoy coffee this morning for the first time in about 10 days!! Laughing

    Alicethecat, while I am certainly sorry to hear you have a rash, I am also happy to see I am not the only one.  When I showed it to the Dr last week (not my regular Onc) he seemed 'curious' about it.  It scared me a little that this might not be a normal side effect.  It popped up about a week after my 1st treatment and when I called the nurse, she didn't make it sound like it was something unusual.  I've been putting cortisone cream on it and started taking some benadryl yesterday to get it to clear up.  I have such sensitive skin and break out from so many things, I shouldn't have been surprised when this started.  

    Melrose, Great news that your echo looks good.  My Rad Onc did tell me that a small portion of the upper lobe of my L lung will get hit with a little radiation but shouldn't cause any issues other than it may show up on future x-rays.  I keep telling myself I have to take the good with the bad and that keeps me going.

    Speaking of that... I had a co-worker tell me what a great attitude I have had thru all of this.  (She has been a great emotional supporter since Day 1) and I hugged her and thanked her for not saying how BRAVE I was.  That is one of the best compliments I've gotten thru all of this.  Another one was my daughter's boyfriend telling her that "Your Mom can really rock the shaved head look."  He such a sweetheart.

    Thank God for all of you and the support and information.  There are just some things the Dr can't tell you, you have to get it from first hand experience.  I'm so glad I am not alone.

  • Kelloggs
    Kelloggs Member Posts: 965
    edited July 2012

    Hi girls!  I wanted to chime in like Glenna did a few pages back and let you know that Taxotere is my friend too.  It got me to NED as well and I thought the SE's were not unbearable.  The fatigue was cumulative but I felt back to my old self by 5 wks PFC.  I am now 17 weeks PFC and I feel good.  My hair is coming back in nicely and the small bit of neuropathy I had in my toes is gone.  I did lose my lashes after chemo ended but they came back in as quickly as they left!  Hang in there ladies....it is SO worth it!

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited July 2012

    ljhm

    You can find more information about Taxotere, including the side effects, on the main breastcancer.org site.  

    We hope this helps!

    The Mods 

  • Hikergal
    Hikergal Member Posts: 74
    edited July 2012

    From what I have experienced so far, I agree with Kelloggs that fatigue is cummulative.  I had round 2 last week and feel much more fatigued this round.  Called for blood work results and my counts are good though! 

    Has anyone experienced back pain with Taxotere?  It messes with my GI tract so don't know if that is what I am feeling but having spasm type of pain in the lower back.  Also am getting a twitching in my right eye this round which is driving me nuts.

    kltb04 I luv your new pic!

    Tazzy congrats on your  success with chemo!  

  • ljhm
    ljhm Member Posts: 60
    edited July 2012

    I also got some twitching and sometimes my fingers would flex out and I had to bend them back to stop the spasm.  I get treatment number 3 next Wednesday so this is my good week and I feel pretty good.  Thank god it's only every 3 weeks.  Keep your chin up.

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited July 2012

    Could't agree more with Kelloggs... hang in there - it is so worth it.

    I am almost 4 weeks PFC (yay - still doing the happy dance) and still get fatigued daily.   My brain often forgets when I am feeling good until I do something...then the aches start and I remember - darn it.   My healthcare team are always reassuring that it does get better.  Just have to learn to be patient with ourselves. 

    kltb - agreed - new pic is cute !

    Hikergal... I have aches in hips and mid-back - again been told all quite normal.  Still worth noting and speaking with MO.   We all react so differently.

    Wishing you all minimal SE days with lots of love and laughter.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited July 2012

    I've got periodic eyetwitching, and Taxo-tears.  Once in a while I will get cramps in my fingers but i just straighten them out when they do that.  Doesn't last too long.  Welcome to neuropathy....

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited July 2012

    Melrose - thanks - I took that pic on the way to my girls night out with SIL - I am starting to go places with only a cap (no scarf tied underneath) - as long as I have my big earrings on!  So glad the echo turned out well.  Let us know about the rads - I am sure I have posted this here already, but I haven't even asked about rads yet - lol - everyone in my chemo group is moving onto rads and I am like, uh, I don't know.  Guess I should talk with MO about that next TX on Monday.

    PAEagle - about the rash, that is one side effect that I have read on the boards but when I asked the nurse in the chemo lounge she acted like she didn't know it was a SE - amazing how much more we learn here sometimes.  My MO nurse though did mention I could have "random bumps and sores"  Anyway, I have had some bumps come up on my forehead and then a rash on my chest.  When I showed my MO the rash on my chest, she said "I don't know what that is, but its not cancer" (I was worried about skin mets Embarassed)  Glad you have a supportive coworker - and lol on your daughter's BF.

    Kelloggs - thanks for the input! Always good to hear "it's worth it!"

    Alice - good luck tomorrow getting the PICC line.  It will be worth it to save your veins!

  • ljhm
    ljhm Member Posts: 60
    edited July 2012

    Having a great day today, treatment was two weeks ago.  Got a new wig and it looks just like my original hair, amazing what it does for your spirit.  I have lots of hats and silk caps for around the house but the wig will be for going out.  When the side effects are as bad as they are you really appreciate the good days!  Hope everyone has a great SE free weekend.

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited July 2012

    Melrose... 4 weeks PFC and my neuropathy is only left in my middle toes - all 3 (or 6) of them... weird.   But happy it has gone from my hands. 

    ljhm... good to hear you're having a good day - enjoy them.

    Hope you can all enjoy your weekends with minimal SE's.

    Take care xx

  • liefie
    liefie Member Posts: 2,440
    edited July 2012

    Somebody on this forum wondered if icing of the hands during infusion was really worthwhile. I have to say that it worked for me, because I have had very little numbness/tingling in my hands. My feet is a different matter. It is not too bad though, and I still have numbness in a few toes 10 weeks PFC. I just did not occur to me that I could ice my feet as well, and only did so during the last chemo treatment with two huge Costco bags of frozen peas. It is certainly worth while to try anything to spare ourselves the side-effects, especially neuropathy which can be permanent in some cases. 

    Enjoy your wig, ljhm. I washed mine for the first time today, and hope it will be fine. My hair is growing, but it will be months before I will be able to go 'topless' - no big deal. I feel great, all treatments are done and life is good.

  • ljhm
    ljhm Member Posts: 60
    edited July 2012

    I soak my hands during chemo and have no tingling at all and my nails are fine.  Now, I have only had 2 treatments so it may change but it seems the ice works.  I also have at least two smoothies or frozen drinks during chemo and my taste buds have survived.  Am trying Caphosol this time for the mouth sores and will keep you posted.  They are the worst SE I get.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited July 2012

    FYI- the icing is to help prevent nail damage and not prevent the neuropathy.  There are supplements that one can take to help with the neuropathy but as with everything, ask your onco first before taking any supplements or icing. 

  • KaSA
    KaSA Member Posts: 6
    edited July 2012

    I finished my taxotere treatment 3 months ago. During treatment I iced both my hands and feet and it definitely helped - I only had very slight tingling in my hands and feet occasionally and that hasn't changed. They say that Tax SEs can still present problems months later. Another help, especially with the nail issue, is that I started wearing very dark nail polish from the start of Tax treatment (and continue to do so). This has definitely preserved the nails. It has some thing do with light and the reaction of Taxotere to light on the nail bed. Hope this helps.

  • lisa2012
    lisa2012 Member Posts: 652
    edited July 2012

    I didn't ice or wear nail polish. Had no nail issues until last treatment. Then they got mottled and discolored. Not all, about 6. And VERY sensitive, hurt to even accidentally bump them! Lasted about 10 days . No nails fell off and week 4 PFC (this week) they got rapidly better. now they are 85% normal. I painted them red yesterday, not usually that sort but it looks nicer than the discolorations. I looked like he world's clumsiest carpenter!!



    Taxotears seem to be reducing rapidly as well. Fewer episodes and NO coursing/ crying look for several days no. Hurray!

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited July 2012

    Lisa... you and me are pretty much on the same schedule... nails are recovering nicely - tenderness gone and the taxo-tears, like yours, are less and less - woo hoo !!

  • ohio4me
    ohio4me Member Posts: 491
    edited July 2012

    My chemo days are behind me (finished 12/11) but thought I would share how I handled chemo week.

    Treatment day and the four days after I took Ativan and Compazine around the clock (every 8 hours). I needed the Ativan to help with the anxiety of what the side effects may be and the Compazine was preventative since I dreaded getting sick (I never did either). That combo really helped get me through the worst days.

    My nails turned brown but have now grown out - six months after treatment ended. Taxo-tears - I had them but didn't know what they were until recently - I just thought I was over-emotionalSmile.

    Didn't have mouth sores but I rinsed my mouth with non-alcohol mouth wash minimal 4-5 times a day. I went through bottles of that stuff. It either worked really well or mouth sores just weren't an SE for me.

    Towards the end I had some fluid retention so was put on diruretic and potassium bottomed out. If you have to take diruretic increase your banana and apricot intake - or get a prescription for potassium pills.

    Didn't have much neuropathy - only in my toes, never painful or of concern and it went away soon after chemo ended. Funny thing - it seemed to go away one toe at a time. Don't know why but the little toe was the last to get better.

    Hoping some of this information is helpful to someone. I wasn't on this forum during treatment so didn't have the help of someone who had just traveled the road. I do have a sister who is an oncology nurse and she gave lots of suggestions.

    During treatment it felt like no end was in sight. Now here I am, six months later, able to share what worked for me.

    There is light at the end of the tunnel - just one day at a time.

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