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  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited July 2012

    fishinurse, sadly it is not uncommon for men to leave when a women gets a breast cancer dx. There are many women on these boards, including me, who have been abandoned by men when we thought we needed them the most.  I have no words of wisdom for you. But for now, just look after yourself. There are many supportive women on these boards who will help you get through treatment.

  • browerl
    browerl Member Posts: 126
    edited July 2012

    fishinurse-you start chemo tomorrow and I start Tuesday, sorry we have to do it all but at least we do have people on here to talk to about it.  

  • mags20487
    mags20487 Member Posts: 1,591
    edited July 2012

    fishinurse and browerl...we are with you every step of the way.  The first is the scariest because it is the unkown.  In just a few short months you will be coming here to encourage the next round of ladies starting treatment.  It will go by so fast and before you know it you will be back on with your life.  One step at a time.  Be sure to join the current Chemo gals in the thread for starting this month.  That way you can also compare notes with other ladies in active treatment too.  Ask anything,  nothing is off limits, and you will get the answers you need.  Take care and may the SE be minimal

    Maggie

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited July 2012

    Good luck to those starting chemo!  I must say these boards and the wonderful ladies on here got me through chemo - don't think I could have done it with out them.  So come her often, ask questions, vent or have a laugh!  We are here for you!

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited July 2012

    You ladies crack me up..I love coming on here and reading these posts...Cocker..I still swear I can hear your voice when you post...whenever we meet up I will absolutely know you immediately...when do you start rads?

    Hope...how are things?  Any news?

    OBX..been meaning to ask you if you had heard on the news about a missing woman from Ohio who went missing in Hatteras?  The woman is from Ohio...seems like her boyfriend possibly strangled her while on vacation on the Outer Banks...

    Browers...they never told me about the neulasta until my first chemo..then they told me to come in for a shot...I had some pain from it in my shoulders, collar bone and hip bones.. the neulasta keeps your white blood cell count up to a normal level...its possible that you may not have to have it since your treatments are 3 weeks apart..mine were 2 weeks so I guess I needed it..blah...

    Oh..and I did win a little at the casino....my son took my DH and I ...he such a good kid but I hope we don't get him into a gambling problem..lol

  • JazzyJ
    JazzyJ Member Posts: 126
    edited July 2012

    Brower and Fishinures - The first one is the scariest. I have #3 on Tuesday, and although it sucks to have to be here at all, the fear of the treatment itself is gone.... When I was scared out of my mind before the first one on June 19, someone wrote (I don't recall who?) that when they got home they kept waiting for something to happen, and other than a little foggy head, nothing did..... they were spot on! I did exactly what the gals told me to do, hydrate, hydrate and hydrate some more!



    To all who helped me get over the bald issue, a huge thanks! Borntosurvive, the visual of you holding your baby's hands while your husband shaved your head was touching....beautiful!! Late Friday night after reading all of the encouraging posts, my Hubby grabbed the clippers and buzzed away what patches I had left. You were all spot on as usual, we laughed, I cried, then we laughed some more and all the weirdness is gone now! The only time I covered my head this weekend was when we went out. Thanks again for being so helpful and supportive. Also, my cold is much better yippee!



    Titan - you gave me Casino fever! We went to the Casino Saturday and hit an $800 win on a slot machine! Fun, fun fun, day! Got there early before it got busy and smokey. Tons of fun! Hope you did well also.



    Bernie - Is that a Mastiff Puppy? I am a HUGE dog lover :-). Yours are soooo cute!



    Have a great week everyone. Hugs to all!



    Shannon

  • browerl
    browerl Member Posts: 126
    edited July 2012

    Bernie love the Mastiff puppy pic.  I have a 2 year old mastiff and would love to share the pic but I don't know how to get it on here.

  • JazzyJ
    JazzyJ Member Posts: 126
    edited July 2012

    Wanted to add to a few more things for the newbies. They have Organic head to toe body wash and lotions in the baby section. Good old Johnson & Johnson all natural products seem to be working nicely on my skin, including my head!



    To help prevent mouth sores, Biotine tooth paste and mouth wash. Also, a soft bristle brush is best. Watermelon is really great snack food, high water content and easy on the gums! Got these points from this board also!



    Hugs!



  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited July 2012

    Hi everyone!  I had a few minutes to read through everyone's posts and wanted to make a few comments about going through chemo.

    CS - yes, I drank 96 ounces of something each and every day for the 4 months I was on chemo.  That includes juicy fruits, veggies, tea, coffee, water, whatever tastes good.  I think it helped minimize SEs.

    I would NOT recommend taking something for constipation in advance of your first treatment.  Like Tif, I never had a problem with constipation, and leaned more in the other direction.  Taking a stool softener could cause explosive diarrhea and dehydrate you if you happen to be like me.

    I agree about eating small amounts frequently to ward off nausea.  Think of chemo as a bit like morning sickness (for anyone whose been pregnant, you know what I mean).  Hunger is a bad thing. 

    If you are given Emend, take it as directed (usually one as a pre-med then one each day after chemo for two days).  It's a wonder drug, really.  If it's not offered to you, ask for it.  If you have a tendency to get seasick, or if you tend to have reactions from anesthesia, ask for the scopolamine patch.  You apply it right before chemo and take it off after four days.  Works like a charm.  It's the patch you'll see people wearing on cruises. 

    Whatever you do, don't suffer silently.  There is a med for every SE except hair loss and fatigue.  Tell your chemo nurse or oncologist if you are struggling.  This is not the time to "tough it out."

    And good luck to those of you just starting the chemo journey.  It really will go faster than you think.

  • JazzyJ
    JazzyJ Member Posts: 126
    edited July 2012

    Loretta - I'm laughing because I spent about 2 hours today trying to figure out how to upload pictures only to find out my version of iPad does not support it!! I will have to use my home PC for pic sharin.... Love Mastiff's! We have 2 very large Akitas! Nothing like a dogs welcome home dance!

  • browerl
    browerl Member Posts: 126
    edited July 2012
     
    I did it! this is my baby Rocko I will put up a better pic but this one is my favorite he was laying upside down when I snapped this picture.   
     
  • browerl
    browerl Member Posts: 126
    edited July 2012

    Here is my baby a 2 year old bull mastiff "Rocko" 

  • luvBngGma
    luvBngGma Member Posts: 73
    edited July 2012

    Ladies, thanks again, for all the conversations. Love the support, laughs, hints that each of you brings. This week has been hard for me. Battling the 'why me's". Apologizing in advance for what may be a long post.

    Last Sunday spent in ER, literally. 10:30P-5:00AM. Cancer card got us a private waiting room, to avoid all the germs. I had swollen hard lump on my cheek, next to ear. When I started running fever, and redness ensued, on-call MO, said go to ER. turns out the parotid gland was infected. Had dangerously low potassium, also. Diagnostic CT also showed enlarged thyroid. IV antibiotics, and 10 day Rx. My MO said they would give me names of endocrinologists for enlarged thyroid at next appt. But my PCP called after seeing ER report, and sent me for ultrasound. Had that on Wed. Primary called , said found mass on parathyroid, and nodules on thyroid, and that I should see recommended endocrinologist within 2 weeks. They can't see me til 30th. When I called my MO, they didnt seem concerned. I have my consult with the MO, on Tues, before my first Taxotere. Feeling like my fears were not addressed by my MO. Obviously, there will be some discussion at my appt. BS surgeon was highly optimistic, saying, they 'got it all' from breast. Since it appeared that my tumor was much larger at surgery, than MRI showed 2 weeks earlier, my mind is going to the "aggressive nature" of TN. So hard for me, not to assume those 3 positive nodes spread cells everywhere.

    Hair-- still have stubble, a few longer hairs showing up, assuming Taxotere will cause hair on my head, eyebrows, and lashes to go, again.

    Feeling really down, and thinking the 3 FEC tx's haven't done their job, and my suffering these SE's have been for naught.

    Sorry for the long rant, I just had to unload a bit. I hate unburdening on my DH, he is wonderful, but doesn't like to hear my negative thoughts.

    Thanks, for listening.

    ~Joyce

  • JazzyJ
    JazzyJ Member Posts: 126
    edited July 2012

    Joyce - So sorry you are feeling so poorly...... Since I am new to this cr@p, all I can say is that I hope whatever is going on clears quickly, and that you find comfort and peace soon. Huge hugs....



    Loretta - I think I dribbled laughing so hard and Rocko's goofy picture! How freakin' cute is that! He is a very Handsome big boy! My husband and I opted for 4 legged kids, so thank you for sharing these! Thanks for the smile :-)



    Shannon

  • Gemmy1
    Gemmy1 Member Posts: 46
    edited July 2012

    Joyce,

    Try not to worry, that is what Xanex or Ativan are for.

    I have a wonderful friend who helped me get through treatment. She survived BC when our kids were in kindergarten together. She has BMX, chemo, rads the whole nine yards. Then she went through treatment for thyroid cancer! they found her third cancer at the same time as her BC but waited to treat it til after they treated the BC.

    I am not jumping to conclusions, YOU have not been diagnosed with anything.

    What I can tell you is my friend is fine! She is healthy and one incredible lady. I thank God for her help every day. She told me that the treatment for thyroid cancer was way easier than BC.

    I hope this helps you and doesn't get you more upset. I will be praying for you.

    T

  • PinkyWI
    PinkyWI Member Posts: 73
    edited July 2012

     So glad I peeked in here tonight.  I have my chemo teaching appointment tomorrow, Monday, 7/16 and will be getting my medi-port put in on Tuesday and a MUGA scan on Friday in preparation for chemo to start on 7/26, my husband and son's birthdays.  I am so scared but it is also reassuring to read the posts of those who have done it and can truthfully say it wasn't that bad.

    I suggested to my oldest son that we all shave my head together - he said no way, that he would be a sobbing idiot, I told him that is exactly why I don't want to go to my hairdresser to get my head buzzed.  I know that this is just a temporary thing but it is scary just the same. I like the spunk of the lady (my apologies for not remembering your complete name!) who said that she did not get a wig and is comfortable with either nothing on her head or a scarf for work -- you go girl, and I hope I develop your confidence.  

     Actually, each of you have been so helpful!

    Browerl and fishinurse, I will be watching to see how both of you are doing and will add any advice you give to my growing list, thanks to all of the lovely ladies who have shared tips and tricks before you.

     So, thanks to all of my new sisters, as we get to know each other better...

  • BernieEllen
    BernieEllen Member Posts: 2,445
    edited July 2012

    Hi Browerl, Calva is a Dogue de Bordeaux (french mastiff).  Ben is a beagle/terrier (rescue dog).  Gunnar is a pitbull/rottweiler.  He is 2 and the gentlest dog I have ever owned.

    I live in the country so lucky enough to have room for them all.  Plus the pony, chickens, turkey and goats - all pets.   Have five small chicks just born this week.  Can all be a bit manic at times.

  • BernieEllen
    BernieEllen Member Posts: 2,445
    edited July 2012
  • BernieEllen
    BernieEllen Member Posts: 2,445
    edited July 2012
  • BernieEllen
    BernieEllen Member Posts: 2,445
    edited July 2012
    Three college roommates -- two females and a male -- began
    to argue after dinner about whose turn it was to do the dishes.
    "All right," one of the girls said, "the first one to speak has to
    do them."
    The trio retired to the living room to watch TV. When their
    neighbor, a school football star, came by, the three remained
    silent. The visitor shrugged and led one of the girls into her
    bedroom.
    Forty-five minutes later, the young man emerged and
    approached the second girl. Through sign language, they
    agreed to adjourn to her bedroom.
    When he came out, he began to fix himself a cup of tea but
    burned his fingers on the stove.
    "Hey, where's some petroleum jelly?" he hollered from the
    kitchen.
    "Oh, hell!" the male roommate said, jumping up. "I'll do the
    dishes."
  • Spica16
    Spica16 Member Posts: 130
    edited July 2012

    Hello & Welcome fishinurse,

    I fully understand your "need to be productive". Being a nurse, you are used to multi-tasking and being busy your whole work day. It is natural to feel that you have to "do" something. It is not natural to suddenly "have time on your hands".  

    My former career was as a histotechnician in a hospital pathology lab ( yep - I'm the tech who handled the breast specimens, breast biopsies, ER/PR, pathology reports...go figure ). I, too, was crazy-busy until MS sent me home. 

    I used to get so frustrated, because I wasn't getting all these things done. I had this "free" time, and I wasn't using it. I mentally beat myself up - alot. Then one day, I came to my senses and realized that "hey stupid, you're home for a reason...if you could do all those things...you'd still be working!!! Duh". Oh, I still get mad/sad about it, but I just keep plodding (wobbling!) along, and do what I can at the speed that I can. Of course, BC put a whole new wrinkle on my story, but I got through it - probably easier than most, because I was already used to infusions, meds, and endless appointments. Plus -and a very big plus - was becoming a member of this website and its discussion groups. At first I just read - and learned so much. Then I started chiming in. Now it is nice to actually be able to pass on advice and stories about my BC experience. Makes me productive!!!

    You are not "on vacation". You have a new, albeit temporary job - taking care of YOU and beating BC. Gather up all that determination and hard work that you put into nursing school, and throw it into defeating this beast. BC is tough...Nurses are tougher!!! (Watch out, ex-boyfriend!)

    As for your friends and coworkers saying that "you are lucky to have time off", they are just talking without thinking. I heard the same things.  Most of them mean well, probably just trying to make you feel better about missing work. Of course, some may actually be jealous that you aren't working - because you sort of have this 'excuse' not to work. They have no comprehension of what having BC entails - they are completely naive to the situation. I'm sure most of us were, pre-BC dx. Your friends will learn more about it as they travel this rocky road with you, and they won't say those goofy things quite so easily. Like many of these gals have mentioned, you will find out who you're true friends are... the ones who are there through the good times and the bad. (and for us chemo ladies, for the good times and the bald!) 

    You, too, will get through this. You will tell future BC-newbies your story, and will help guide them along their BC journey. AND...you will be one fabulous, loving and caring hospice nurse!!!

    Take Care ~ Shar

    P.S. Do you love to fish? 

  • Cocker_Spaniel
    Cocker_Spaniel Member Posts: 1,204
    edited July 2012

    A couple was invited to a swanky costume party.Unfortunately the wife came down with a terrible headache,so told her husband to go to the party alone. He being a devoted husband protested, but she argued and said she was going to take some aspirin and go to bed. And there was no need for his good time being spoiled by not going.

    So he took his costume and away he went..The wife after sleeping soundly for about an hour, awakened pain free and as it was still early enough, decided to go to the party.

    Since her husband did not know what her costume was she thought she would have some fun by watching her husband to see how he acted when she was not with him.

    She joined the party and soon spotted her husband cavorting around on the dance floor. Dancing with every nice woman he could, and copping a little touch here and a little kiss there.

    So his wife sidled up to him and, being a rather seductive babe herself he soon left his current partner high and dry, and devoted his time to the new babe who had just arrived.

    She let him go as far as he wished naturally, since he was her husband.  Finally, he whispered a little proposition in her ear and she agreed. So off they went to one of the cars and had a nice quickie.

    Just before the unmasking at midnight, she slipped away, went home, put the costume away and got into bed. She was wondering what kind of explanation he would make for his behavior.

    She was sitting up reading when he came in, and she asked what kind of a time he had. He said: "Oh,
    the same old thing. You know I never have a good time when you're not there." "Did you dance
    much?" "You know, I never even danced one dance. When I got there I met Pete, Bill Browning, and some other guys, so we went into the den and played poker all evening.

    But you're not going to believe what happened to the guy I loaned my costume to."

  • fishinurse
    fishinurse Member Posts: 50
    edited July 2012

    OMG! Laughed so hard!

  • fishinurse
    fishinurse Member Posts: 50
    edited July 2012

    Wow! THank you for your response! Yes, i love to fish,got my fishing license before diagnosis,between lumpectomy on the right and a port on the left,haven't gone lately,but i plan on it when i get to feeling better. I always catch and release. So glad i joined this,everyones's responses have brought me alot of insights. Getting to know so many awesome people just like you!

  • browerl
    browerl Member Posts: 126
    edited July 2012
  • fishinurse
    fishinurse Member Posts: 50
    edited July 2012

    Thanks Pinky,going for 1st chemo today,AC. The nice thing is that my sister works there,i am the "uninhibited one" and she behaves herself,the staff there can't get over how different we are,cracks me up,i am always thinking of ways to get her laughing,gives mesomething to focus on and it's fun too!

  • fishinurse
    fishinurse Member Posts: 50
    edited July 2012

    Wow,beautiful dog,reminds me of one of my dogs,shadow. I found him when i went fishing a couple years ago,very thin,not able to walk well, Took him to the vet,he had been abused,guessed his age to be around 5-6 months. He is the same color,is a boxer mix,someone told me he resembled a french bulldog,and,looking at this picture,i would say he is right! I call him shadow because he is practically attached to my hip! I love him and he is a great comfort to me.

  • browerl
    browerl Member Posts: 126
    edited July 2012
    Good luck today fishinurse, we are all there with youKiss
  • NavyMom
    NavyMom Member Posts: 1,099
    edited July 2012

    Good Luck today, fish.  And same to you tomorrow, brow.

    I see ther e are more new girls here over the past few days.  A big welcome to all of you. 

  • fishinurse
    fishinurse Member Posts: 50
    edited July 2012

    Hey Jazzy!! I too read everyones's posts,that is what calm's me. Regarding the hair,i have a friend who is a hairstylist,she gave me a treatment to put on my head tp promote hair growth. She had me come in to cut my hair,we just couldn't do it! She ended up coloring my hair because of my grey rooys, i could have cared less about the roots but it made her feel better! She is gonna do the haircut when it's time. I just hope she can handle it! LOL!

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