DCIS and Mastectomy?

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  • Moonflwr912
    Moonflwr912 Member Posts: 6,856
    edited July 2012

    Good luck, positive

  • positivenergy
    positivenergy Member Posts: 73
    edited July 2012

    Hopeful Future:  How are you doing.  I hope that your healing is going well.

  • positivenergy
    positivenergy Member Posts: 73
    edited July 2012

    Kristi:  Just curious, I am just getting to the point of probably having a BMX soon.  I think I am heading down the same road as you with the reconstruction, but hearing that it is going to take about 4 months is kind of scary.  How long did it take for you to recover after the BMX?  They keep saying I can do immediate reconstruction, so I'm feeling like I'm going to get it all done, take a six week vacation (not really) from work and be back to work, which continuing to heal.  Am I crazy?

  • HopefulFuture
    HopefulFuture Member Posts: 54
    edited July 2012

    Hello LA Star and Howhm021:  I also have a 4 year old!  It's been challenging during my surgeries but a total blessing as she has lifted my spirits many times.  And ultimately, I did the BMX for her - so I can be around for her future.

    PositiveEnergy:  Thanks for the nice message.  My healing has gone very well, thanks for asking. These days, my DCIS and BMX are the last things I have to worry about, so I guess that's a good thing.  Work has been crazy unfortunately.  How was your rad/onc visit yesterday?  Do you feel like you got some answers?  I know it can be overwhelming, but it's good to take one's time and seek multiple opinions.  It's been over a year for me since my BMX, and it has gone by surprisingly fast. My fat grafting was in early April and I'd say that my body took a while to get over that. It didn't take me that long to recuperate after my BMX but the first two weeks were the hardest.  Both physically and emotionally.  By week four I was doing very well and feeling guilty for being off work for so long.  :)

  • Iamblessed
    Iamblessed Member Posts: 240
    edited July 2012

    Hello,

    I had a bilateral mx in June 2008 for low grade dcis in left breast, right was preventive measure. They had me see a psychiatrist first before they allowed me to do it to make sure I was making the right decsion. I had DIEP with immediate reconstruction in NOLA then. I am now trying to get stage 2 surgery scheduled, depending on my insurance. I just sent my insurance information to NOLA yesterday, so we will see what happens. I have to admit, I have a little regret as with the scars on my abdomen, I feel like Frankenstein sometimes, but the scars on my breast are not very visible. I think some of my regret is due to the fact I don't feel like a woman with no nibs and these horrid "dog ears" on my hips. Maybe after stage 2 I will feel complete again and any feeling of regret will be gone. Here's hoping!

  • positivenergy
    positivenergy Member Posts: 73
    edited July 2012

    So, just back from the surgeon and she 100% agrees with the oncologist/radiologist that I need to have a mastectomy.  Now to decide if I do one or two, I think I've already made my decision on this, but the part that's hard for me is I really feel that using my own tissue is the way to go, but the surgery is so much more extensive than having implants - trying to justify it in my mind.  I'm sure I will work it out, but I'm wondering if anyone can share their surgical experience, she says it's 12 hours with immediate reconstruction - which will be hell on my family, but I don't want to base my decision on that at this time.  I realize that it will require about four to six weeks for recovery - I am prepared for that and for the pain, what I'm not really prepared for is the risk of death with a surgery that long.  I remember seeing people that underwent voluntary surgery for weightloss and they die and I always think why couldn't they just be happy with themselves as they are.  I know this is an odd comparison, but I am concerned I am doing this out of vanity and maybe even a little selfishness if something awful were to happen.  Thanks for listening and I hope everyone is having a peaceful and happy day.

  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited July 2012
    I had all of those same thoughts about the risk, vanity, etc.  I went to the Center for Restorative Breast Surgery in New Orleans for my BMX and hip flap reconstruction and it really put my mind at ease to have such excellent surgeons working on me.  My insurance even covered everything but the standard out-of-network costs.  I asked if anyone had ever died there having surgery and the PA I spoke with laughed a little and said, "Not even close." They took great care of me.  I'm 3 weeks out and still tired and not quite back to work, but my breasts already look pretty good after Stage I.  It was great to never have a waking minute without breasts.  It's definitely a long process, but I read a lot of complaints about TE's and fills so there can be issues either way.  I like that, once the surgeries are done, there is no maintenance over time.  I considered having no reconstruction, but I came to the conclusion that, for me, this would feel like a loss and impact my self-image.  Since I was going to go through such an involved reconstruction process and had suspicious spots on the right non-cancer side, I opted for BMX (nothing was found in the final path on the right side, but I have no regrets).  It is scary, but it is more routine with a skilled surgeon.  The recovery is long, but you might be very happy with the outcome.  There is a lot of information on the "NOLA in September" thread in "Breast Reconstruction." Is the 12-hour estimate you were given for one side or both?  
  • Moonflwr912
    Moonflwr912 Member Posts: 6,856
    edited July 2012

    LAstar, I chose implants after my BMX because I couldn't handle the long surgery. Of course, I am 57, diabetic and overweight. All those strikes against me. If your health and age is better, you have a much better chance. Good luck, you will make the right decision for you. Much love.

  • Infobabe
    Infobabe Member Posts: 1,083
    edited July 2012

    I believe youi can make the decision on reconstruction at any time in the future.  It is the one thing you get to second guess.

  • positivenergy
    positivenergy Member Posts: 73
    edited July 2012

    Thanks LAStar, you've been a big help.  The 12 hours is for both and a TRAM (or whatever it is called).  I'm so tired right now, not sure how to concentrate at work, it's so hard.  My original diagnosis was 6/6/12 and still nothing scheduled.  They said it is high grade DCIS, wide spread, slightly + ER and - PR.  They are saying they can't do surgery until the end of August, I'm so frustrated and exhausted.  I know I just need to get some sleep and I'll be strong again.

  • positivenergy
    positivenergy Member Posts: 73
    edited July 2012

    So, now the waiting begins again.  I think I have decided to go with the BMX and TRAM reconstruction.  I have done lots and lots of research and talked with lots of people.  I taped my visit with oncology and the surgeon and have listed to those several times.  I feel good about the decision, however, it seems they won't be able to schedule me until the end of August in Concord.  I made an appointment with Beth Israel in Boston for a second opinion and the possibility of being scheduled sooner, they got me in for a consult with the surgeon and the PS for 7/31.  Waiting until the end of August will be a hugh challenge for me.  If anyone has any thoughts on how to deal with the wait, I would appreciate any suggestions.  I am having the hardest time concentrating at work.

  • positivenergy
    positivenergy Member Posts: 73
    edited July 2012
    I tried to find NOLA and am not sure where to find that, if you could help me with that I would appreciate it. Embarassed
  • Kd6blk
    Kd6blk Member Posts: 114
    edited July 2012
    Nola is http://www.breastcenter.com/. There is also PRMA in San Antonio where I am going. I would only go to a place that ONLY does this type of procedure, their success rates are higher.
  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited July 2012

    "NOLA" is just short for New Orleans, Louisiana.  The Center for Restorative Breast Surgery is the name of the place.

    Here is the website: http://www.breastcenter.com

    Here is the link to the thread in Breast Reconstruction:

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/44/topic/736412?page=613#idx_18363 

    The Center is really good about getting people in quickly that have cancer and need to have surgery.  If you just want to see what your insurance will cover, you can contact the Center and start the paperwork process.  They will need copies of your medical records.  Then they contact your insurance company and let you know ASAP what the cost will be and how soon they can get you in.  The travel adds a little more complexity, but they are accustomed to out-of-state patients.  They have a car service that does airport shuttling and takes you to and from appointments.  They have relationships with hotels to get you discounted rates.  There is also an American Cancer Assn hotel called the Hope Lodge where you can stay for free with a referral from the Center.  If you want to have your surgery sooner, this might be a good option.  However, I don't think that they do TRAM flap procedures there.  All of the procedures done at the Center do not involve moving muscle.  But they do excellent work.  Check out the picture forum on their website!  I know a woman locally who went there 2 years ago and her results rival anything I saw on their website, so I feel that their results are consistently very good.  Okay, I hope this helps rather than adds to the confusion!  Best wishes!

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited July 2012

    well my biopsy from this past week....all B9

    so no mastectomy this time.....wow not sure if I want the second opinion when the first came out the way I hoped,  but will anyway at my next onco visit

    B9 feels good for now 

  • Moonflwr912
    Moonflwr912 Member Posts: 6,856
    edited July 2012

    Proudtospin, I am happy for you-B9 IS GOOD.

  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited July 2012

    Yay!  Great news!

  • Kd6blk
    Kd6blk Member Posts: 114
    edited July 2012

    I had a benign biopsy. But they wanted the lump out due to the type of tissue...when they did lumpectomy, it was DCIS, the bad kind. I also had a clear MRI. I will never trust a biopsy again. Just saying...

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited July 2012

    I think you need to have a surgeon that you trust, mine is considered by many to be the best in NJ

    I have already had lumpies and rads and am on aromasin so not the beginning of my journey which it sounds like you are.

    but I am getting an opinion from my onco at a dif hospital as that is my form of comparing opinions

  • Infobabe
    Infobabe Member Posts: 1,083
    edited July 2012

    Kd6blk



    That is unusual. Good for your doctors who did not trust the biopsy.



    Was it a core biopsy? and what do you mean by the bad kind of DCIS?



  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited July 2012

    there are dif types of DCIS, I referred to them as black grains of sand or white grains of sand, my BS agreed with my discription.  Your path report should tell you what sort you have or ask your surgeon.  The bad or (in my words black grains of sand) are more likely to morph into the more bad stuff!!

  • Infobabe
    Infobabe Member Posts: 1,083
    edited July 2012

    proudtospin

    And how are the black grains described in your path report? 

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited July 2012

    comedio is the bad kind, there is a section on the BC site that explains this and it is very important to know, I had a mix and the comedio type do up your reoccurance rate which I considered when chosing my treatment

  • positivenergy
    positivenergy Member Posts: 73
    edited July 2012

    Proudtospin....  I'm guessing that you would find this out on the path report after surgery? 

    I'm wondering if anyone can answer this question.  As you've probably read, I have to wait until the end of August for a mastectomy for my DCIS that is 5 cm.  The doctor says it is a Stage 0 right now, but she will not know for sure until they take it out and test it.  How dangerous is it to wait six weeks when they don't even know for sure if it is a Stage 0.  I really wish I could know that it wouldn't grow very much in six weeks even if it was invasive, but I don't think that is the case.  Any thoughts would be helpful.

  • positivenergy
    positivenergy Member Posts: 73
    edited July 2012

    Hopefulfuture, how is your recovery going?  I hope that you are doing well and feeling better each day.  Hugs.

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited July 2012

    positive, the info was given to me after the lumpie when my BS and I were discussing what she called "preventive treatments" which is how she introduced me to the concept of radiation and the meds.  I was on my path report

    I know it is horrible to wait for results but if they thought it fast changing, I think they would bump you up.

    all this stuff just plain takes too long!  It took me 6 weeks this past month to get from an "oops something new is on your mamo" to the "all is clear and benign" and in between I was a mess

    try to keep the nerves in place, yoga helps me~

  • BLinthedesert
    BLinthedesert Member Posts: 678
    edited July 2012

    Positivenergy - As frustrating as it is, it is not life-threatening to wait 6 weeks.  It was 4 months between my first biopsy and lumpectomy - not fun months for sure.  I understand about how difficult it is to concentrate.  I found that meditation really helped me - as did just talking with a person who is trained in working with breast cancer patients.  You might as the surgery center if they have anyone available for counseling, or you can look at the American Cancer Society website.  I am really not one for yoga/meditation, etc., but found it really helped me get through the "waiting periods".

    Good luck to you, try to keep occupied.   

  • Moonflwr912
    Moonflwr912 Member Posts: 6,856
    edited July 2012

    Positive, 6 weeks will give you just enough time to Dr Google, panic, call friends, calm down, Dr Google, panic, call BS, calm down, and then actually do some research and winnow out the actual information of what you will probably go through. I had a mammogram in Sept, second to clarify in Oct, biopsy in Nov, and BMX in Dec. If that helps. LOL! Hang in there they like to be real sure before they do anything and waiting is the hardest. And if you do Dr Google, check here if something you see is confusing or scaring the pants off of you. Much love.

  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited July 2012

    I had 6 weeks between my re-excision and my bmx, and it was just enough time to make me so sick of waiting that I felt like I was ready for the surgery. It was like being 8.5 months pregnant! It also gave me time to get lots of work done, get my house in order, and exercise. If the docs thought you were in imminent danger, they would probably find a way to get you in sooner.

  • positivenergy
    positivenergy Member Posts: 73
    edited July 2012
    Well ladies, this is all amazingly helpful and calming.  I am going to focus on myself and my work and stop worrying.  I do have an appointment with a psychotherapist that specializes in this type of stuff on Thursday.  Just when I calm down, they will schedule surgery and I'll be a wreck again LOL  That's life I guess Kiss  All I can say is, I am so glad I found this site.  Have a beautiful night everyone.  Sleep tight.

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