Protocel 23

Kat,

I am SO thrilled for you!!!  Congrats on your hard work, faith and willpower!!!  Sometimes we have to think outside the box and you are doing just that!!!  Celebrate your awesome news and have a wonderful vacation with your family!!!!

This is thrilling. It confirms you aren't biased when taking those measurements! Even if it's not a cure, if alternatives can shrink tumours or delay progression that adds extra options and invaluable time when things could have been getting worse, not better.  I'd also like to know what your MO says.

PS, what does SUV stand for?  I should know but my word memory is sadly lacking lately.

Congratulations Kat! Awesome news.

Kat - I have been following this thread and am awe of your courage and tenacity.  You have been so kind and generous to share this journey with us, allowing all to admire your dedication.  I am thrilled that it has gone so well; you are a true pioneer.  Wishing you continued success with every scan.

So happy for your Kat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What do we do with the Protocel 23?  The docs had me tested b4 and after surgery. The MO never did sign my FMLA papers and didnt give me an alternative to Arimi which I had a severe allergic reaction to the ARimi; so am looking for a new MO but not sure how to proceed? Taking the Protandim and so far has helped my memory. My fiance is calling it memory pills..lol.

Will see you on FB too, Kat.  I mentioned in April that Protocel was in my backpocket, suggested to me by my integrative MD, who is a patholigist both anatomical and clinical plus nuclear medicine.  His passion is holistic healing.  My original post is posted below by me.  I stand by what I say.  My update is this, having multifocal bc w an excisional biopsy by a surgeon who did not prepare and know where to start and stop - and who did not remove the pocket of fat and nodes in my armpit when a node was palpable, though removed 11 total nodes - well, I was left with cancer in the nodes.  There are three showing SUV higher on the PET CT.  I know in my heart these are not a reoccurrence or from the positive margin the surgeon left.  First, the margin shows nothing, entire body clear except these thrree nodes.  I know in my heart these are left, more than my alt choices have been able to handle.  So I am changing the protocol again and now including the Protocel and Paw  Paw together.  Did some Paw Paw but not often, as in kinesiology always tested to not use it, esp w high thyroid rx. 

So Kat, you are not alone.  Heidi and others who are using Protocel.  Just had to wait until I knew the time was right.

Protandim, that too have used but not too often.  It got me through some pinches, like the recent biopsy.  Encouraging pubmed.gov info too.  

My original post on this thread --- I am posting it because I know this thread has been thrown into the light of some anti-alternative elsewhere who have visited the thread here and on your FB and may provoke...... I won't way where they come from, no sense fighting anywhere, but so you know that we have to keep hope. 

I say this because I know that we have to know as believers in alternatives that we must remain in our hope, our belief.... but we must also never put our heads in the sand if things do not work as hoped.... plans and protocols must be changed / transitioned as needed and we must be honest with one another or we could cost the lives of our bc sisters who are believing us. 

Kat, I am not speaking this TO you, I believe you are being honest, both with progreess and with fears and discouragement. 

This is to anyone in alternatives.  Not all the people on the alts threads are as outspoken, ask questions, are researching as much, some follow blindly and never let us know that they are there, they go off to do the protocols and do not have enough knowledge and support. Are they responsible for their own lives, yes, in most ways, but some of the gentlest souls are not 'aggressive' enough to takethat responsibility, they gently follow.

Kat, I believe in all my heart this is working for you, I am so happy for you.  My gratitude goes to the Universal Creator who I believe is guiding us through this jungle of a world, and I have no explanations, just gratitude. 

Original post by me:::    Kat- just read your entire thread. I know Protocel works. My integrative medical doctor wanted me to start this when I found him. He was very thrilled with all the powerful results across the world. I have it in my back pocket, as of now, I have a solid protocol and since Protocel contraindicates with just about everything I did not wantt to change my protocol so soon. I really felt it was working. Still do, though there have been some challenges and the learning curve.

Those pins and needles, I get those all the time now, I used to get very painful lightening shocks beffore the surgery too, but they were different. I prefer the pins and needles. The lysing, I get at the incision, under breasts and across stomach, like salt, with mucous in stool and urine at times. I am using fucoidan capsules and Paw Paw and Protandim, along with Chinese herbs that cause the phlegm of body to release and to liquify to pass. The biggest change in my masses in breast were after adding the Chinesse herbs.

You are brave, but you have to be. You are encouraging and inspirational, articulate, strong, hopeful, deserving and more. Whatever anyone says to you, just remember that there are so many here that need to know your entire story, good, bad, indifferent, challenges and all, tthe truth as it comes. I am doing the same on a spiritual thread, this has been the challenge of my life.

Will be back to read more.

This said, there are so many alternative treatments that are effective when matched with the individual.

To all readers, the hope we have in our alternative choices is what keeps us going, keeps us strong and feeling powerful. Do not allow anyone to take that away with believing any negative comments. Keep your eyes wide open, one foot in front of the other, no heads in the sand allowed. We have to tell one another the truth of our journeys, that is how we get out of this alive.

Thanks Kat for sharing!

Diane (Essa)

Diane-essa, only reason I used Protandim is because my Ps put me on it after the MO took me off Arimi due to swollen tongue and dangerous allergic reaction.

My son who is studying medicine in Paris said I should try Cantron but their website seems kind of loopy to me. What do you think?

Hi Kat,

After I asked you where to receive the protocel I purchased and started to use two months ago. I like to ask that why I don't see lysing? By the way I refused to receive any conventional threatment and choose to try alternative ways. So everybody became against me even my GP. I was diognased one year ago and at the follow up (6 months later) ultrasound, mamogram etc. they found out it spreade under my arm. It was at February. I requested bone scan from my GP because as I refused their threatment nobody seems to care my sitution. Now I'm out of Canada and going to return end of September. What should I request from my GP as bloodwork etc.?

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