July 2012 Radiation

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  • babette54
    babette54 Member Posts: 65
    edited June 2012

    I had my simulation session today.  It was uneventful--aligning me properly based on the mapping I had done last week, more Sharpie marks, a couple of x-rays, and 3 tatoos.  I'm set for my first rads treatment on Monday (July 2).

    Teacup - I'll be thinking of you as we both begin our first rads treatment on Monday.  Mine is at 2 PM.

    HealingDreams - I also had my RO show me my plan on his computer.  It was interesting to see my heart, lungs, tumor bed, and the planned area to get the radiation.  He showed me how the beams would miss my heart which was reassuring.  I strongly agree with your paragraph talking about having trust in the RO and the staff at the rads center.  I hope they were all at the "top of their classes" while in school.  [I'm a high school teacher and thus feel that this would be an important quality.]

    To those of you who are in the mapping and/or simulation stages of rads--I found the process painless and very tolerable.

    To those of us who are starting rads next week, I send my best wishes for mimimum SE.  This will be over soon.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited June 2012

    Hi July group!

    For you, and all who join you in the next month, here's some helpful info on the main Breastcancer.org site on Radiation Therapy, including types of radiation therapy, what to expect, and how to manage side effects.

    Hope this helps!

    --Your Mods

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited July 2012

    Is this thread still going or is everyone moved over to the Summer rads thread?



    Jenn

  • Teacup2012
    Teacup2012 Member Posts: 49
    edited July 2012

    Jenn - I'm still here! I think it's just quiet over the holiday and as people are just getting started.



    Babette - how was your first treatment? Mine was uneventful. I was very anxious before the appointment, so I took a Xanax. I have not met with the RO since the mapping, so I haven't seen any kind of simulation showing me where the radiation is actually going. So I'm still nervous about my heart and lungs being in the line of fire. I also didn't have any idea of how long to expect each "zap" (I get one from 2 different angles). I found it unnerving not having any idea how long each one would last. I think tomorrow will be easier now that I have some idea. I didn't count the seconds of each zap today, but I want to try to tomorrow. I had one female and one male tech, and they were very kind, and very considerate of me, trying very hard to keep me draped as much as possible. I hope your treatement went well.

  • graced
    graced Member Posts: 104
    edited July 2012

    Hi Everyone,

    I meet with my RO tomorrow for the first time at 8am.  The office said it was possible that I might have the simulation appointment later the same day so I'm hoping to get it all going tomorrow.  Would love to be able to start a week from today.  We'll see!

    Does anyone know if you can swim (either lake, pool, or ocean) while gettings rads?  I know you have to keep the area covered and away from the sun but wasn't sure if immersion, esp in chlorine was an issue.  I'll ask the doc tomorrow too.

    Thanks!

    Grace

  • babette54
    babette54 Member Posts: 65
    edited July 2012

    Teacup - My first treatment was uneventful also.  The rads therapists took the time to explain exactly what would happen.  They told me NOT to count the number of seconds of each zap as the time could vary from day to day.  They assured me that the proper dosage of radiation is being delivered regardless of how long the noise lasted.  My therapists also were very considerate of me, covering my body with a heated towel after they got done setting me up.

    I was anxious today also and agree that tomorrow will be much better since I know what to expect.  My sister and I went out to eat after my treatment.  I disregarded healthly eating and had a hamburger and onion rings.  Tomorrow I will do better.

    On the down side, I found out today that my RO has left the practice.  His last day was last Friday.  Apparently, he forgot to tell me this last Thursday during my simulation.  The nurse said that he told his patients last week.  Why not me?  I'll never know.

    I met my new RO today and was impressed with her.  I look forward to getting to know her and ask her many of the same questions that I asked my first RO to see if their explanations are the same.  It's sort of like getting a second opinion without having to go somewhere else.

  • MiniMacsMom
    MiniMacsMom Member Posts: 595
    edited July 2012

    In terms of heart damage, my tumor was on my right side, but i am getting treatment to my breastbone are.  On that area, the MDA docs use electrons instead of photons because they degrade at a much lower distance.  They shoot the photons at an angle across my whole breast and then localize electrons to the breast bone.  The boosts to my breastbone, superclav, scar and arpit (seems like almost the whole thing :) ) will also be straight on with electrons.  I am not sure how common this is for centers to use, but my RO says its what helps to midigate the damage to the internal organs.  Big HUGS! I started in June but I will continue my rads all they way til July. :)

  • changes
    changes Member Posts: 622
    edited July 2012

    Hello July 2012 Rads group! I saw the title of this thread and it caught my eye. I was part of the July 2010 group - hard to believe it has been two years already. I just wanted to wish you all well and offer you encouragement - radiation will be over with before you know it. I found Aquaphor to be really helpful to my skin, but a bit messy to clothes. Sending hugs and positive thoughts to all of you!

    Karen

  • Teacup2012
    Teacup2012 Member Posts: 49
    edited July 2012

    Welcome Grace!  Good luck with the meeting with your RO.  I found the simulation to be no big deal.  I will be interested in what your RO says about swimming.  I haven't asked my RO that question yet.  I won't meet with him until next week.

    Babette, I see your point about not counting..but I just kept getting more and more anxious the longer the zap went, so I think having an idea of the length will help ease my mind.  I can't believe your RO left without telling you!  My BS retired right after my surgery, but I didn't really care because I am hopeful I will never have to see a breast surgeon again!  But having the RO leave at the beginning of your RADS treatment!  It seems a little negligent that you were not told.  I hope you will be happy with your new RO, you have a really good attitiude about the opportunity to get a 2nd opinion! :)  It's such a challenge to eat healthy isn't it?  I have had so much swelling in my feet that I keep saying I'm not going to eat salt, but today I caved in over a bag of sun chips!  Oh well, tomorrow is a new day.

    MiniMacsMom - I'm impressed with the amount of knowledge you have regarding your treatment.  I will have to ask my RO about the type of r adiation in addition to the angles.  I'm glad you will be joining us for the rest of your journey.

    Karen - Thanks for stopping in and offering words of encouragement.  I think we are all a little nervous so it is so nice to hear from those who have completed treatment. 

    To everyone else - take care

  • HealingDreams
    HealingDreams Member Posts: 50
    edited July 2012

    Hi, Jenn, I started my radiation just before you did, June 22. I'll continue through July 27.

    I've had 7 treatments already. 28% done. Cool The smile and the sunglasses on this icon both seemed appropriate for the situation!

    My team of three techs, two men and one woman, are both professional and kind. It doesn't feel so foreign to slip my left arm out of the gown and to uncover the left breast, or have it uncovered, for treatment. It's almost, but not quite, routine now. I think tomorrow it will probably feel routine. 

    My side effects have been a feeling like I've had too much sun, and some pinkness of the skin, spreading across the center line. At first, the pinkness disappeared in a few hours. Now I have a little tenderness after treatment as well as pinkness. I've also started to experience some fatigue but I don't really know if that is related to the radiation or not.

    I see my RO tomorrow. I plan to talk with her about the pinkness crossing the center line, something I don't understand. I will also talk with her about the product that she recommended for skin care that contains parabens. Parabens are implicated in breast cancer.

    I found a web site, www.breastcancerfund.org, that focuses on the chemicals in our environment that contribute to breast cancer. If you click on the Clear Science link and the Chemicals Glossary, you can read about the science related to parabens as well as other chemicals, such as HRT, implicated in breast cancer. I am hoping that the information about parabens will be enough to sway not just my RO but to change the policy of the cancer institute where I receive treatment. I'll let you know.

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited July 2012

    HI All!  Do  you mind if I join this thread?  I just finished chemo 6/28; have an appt. with my RO on 7/12, and am hoping to start rads at the end of this month.  (I was told need 34 treatments). So if I do the math correctly, I should be finished the day before my son's wedding around mid-September.  It's nice to have the knowledge of people going through this.

  • graced
    graced Member Posts: 104
    edited July 2012

    Welcome kjiberty!  Congrats on finishing chemo!  That's great timing about finishing rads. I was hoping to start on Monday so I could finish the day before I am supposed to go on vacation but that doesn't look like it's going to be possible.  They want me to drive up from the beach (2 hrs away) to finish the last few treatments.  If it's that or cancel the week, then I guess I'll be driving.  You'd think I could just have 28 sessions instead of 30 but 30 is the magic number apparently.

    Grace

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited July 2012

    Graced:  Thank you!  Well, they say I need 34.  What's the deal?  I need 30 regular, and 4 boosts.  No boosts for you???  Hopefully, I won't look too burned up in the mother of the groom dress I bought the day after my diagnosis (retail therapy, ya know!).  Anyway, I am hoping, really hoping that is ALL done before the wedding. I think it depends on my bloodwork.

  • Jag1110
    Jag1110 Member Posts: 77
    edited July 2012

    Hi everyone - I don't remember who asked about swimming but I was told no because of sun exposure and the the chlorine being drying to the skin. I was just going to complain that I hadn't heard from my doc and they just called and I go for my mapping Thursday and start Monday the 9th. I was also told to use Utterly Smooth for my cream and Dove unscented soap. She said I would probably be on a few lotions by the end. I hope everyone enjoys there 4 th of July, I'll be painting my basement, loads of fun,lol.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2012

    Hello/Saludos,

    I am a Latina with breast cancer, born and raised in the US and fluent in Spanish.  I have found this online community to be very helpful and full of resources as I navigate this unfortunate new terrain.  That said I was surprised by my lack of luck in using the search feature to uncover more than 2 other Latinas.  I have many identities: NY'er, educator, lawyer, feminist, formerly, "great head of hair"  ; >  -  and, Latina, and I'd like to connect to others with these backgrounds.

    In repsonse the Moderators were good enough to create this brand new forum.  It is not necessarily a Spanish language forum.  I am, as are most Latinas residing in the US, most comfortable in English.  I was seeking a space for all Latinas, where conversations can happen in the many languages that we speak certainly but where the focus is our common culture rather than a language that some of us use.   

    So, if you'd like to join us, Bienvenida!  Come find the new Latinas/Hispanics with Breast Cancer forum.  I am glad to connect.  Perhaps like me you had been searching for a space to drop into occassionally where discussing issues that might arise more commonly for Latinas/Hispanics is possible without too long an explanation.  I truly appreciate the community I have found on this site and want to also discuss research that specifically addresses breast cancer risks for Latinas or the importance placed on femininity in some Latin cultures, or quizas/perhaps traditional resources/remedios, or the significance of hair loss for a Latina who comes, like I do, from a hair obsessed culture.  Any way, I'm sure you get it and that's the point.  I'd love to spread the word that this gret new forum exists. Please spread the word to yoru friends and forums that this new space exists so that they will cosndier joining us.

    Mi nombre es Vielka. I am looking forward to getting to know everyone who will join us.

    Vielka / VVH 

  • babette54
    babette54 Member Posts: 65
    edited July 2012

    Welcome kjiberty.  I know what you are going through regarding going through cancer treatment and planning your son's wedding.  I was diagnosed two weeks before my son's wedding so I was still in a bit of a state of shock on his wedding day.  I decided to put cancer totally out of my mind on the day of the wedding.  No one was allowed to talk about cancer and we all were able to focus on the moment.  I'm glad that you will be done (with a little luck) with treatments in time for your son's wedding.  You will have so much to celebrate.

    I started neoadjuvant chemotherapy the week after the wedding.  My mother died the next week.  Life has a way of throwing curve balls at us, doesn't it?  My life has been stressful, but I have so much to look forward to. I have grandchildren (yet to be conceived) and retirement in 2 years. Life will be good again.

    I had rads treatment #2 today.  If all goes well (31 more treatments), I will be done August 16.  School starts (I'm a teacher.) on August 22.  I hope that I am strong enough to begin school without taking too much time off due to fatigue and/or appointments.  I also want to be able to wear a bra as I teach high school students.  Going braless might make all of us uncomfortable.

    I assume everyone has tomorrow (July 4) off from doing rads.  Do something fun!!!

  • graced
    graced Member Posts: 104
    edited July 2012

    I had asked about swimming.  I met my RO today for the first time and I asked him.  He said swimming was fine - even in a pool - as long as when I got out, I rinsed off and changed to a dry top.  Not that I'll be swimming that much but if the opportunity presents itself, it'll be nice to know I can cool off.

    kjiberty, I don't know how they decide the numbers - they told me 25 regular + 5 boosts.  But surely they can do 23 regular and 5 boosts and it would be nearly the same and not interrupt my vacation?  I have heard of other people having less than 30 sessions. Guess it depends on how flexible the doc is and how important he thinks that number is and when I actually am able to start.

    Happy 4th to everyone.  I am going to finish reading my cancer books and put together an affirmation that I can say before and after each radiation treatment.  If anyone else is using any affirmations that they want to share, I'd love to hear them!  I also bought Belleruth Naparstek's guided imagery CD for radiation which I have yet to listen to and she may have some good ones on there.

    Cool

    Grace

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited July 2012

    Babbette and Graced:  Thank you for your wisdom.  Let me know what our RO's say about helping with fatigue during rads. 

    Happy 4th! 

  • Belinda977
    Belinda977 Member Posts: 381
    edited July 2012

    I go to the Wound Center tomorrow.  Praying this incision will be healed soon so that I can started my rads.  I think it will be another week but progress is happening.  Kind of wanting to get things going just so I can get somewhat back to normal.  The doc appts/nurse visits 3 times a week is wearing on me.  

  • Teacup2012
    Teacup2012 Member Posts: 49
    edited July 2012

    babette - I'm sorry about your mom - I lost mine in Feb. 2011, and I miss her everyday.

    I admire your postitive attitude that life will be good again - sometimes it is hard for me to stay positive. I have a one year grandson and he is the joy of my life. He is one of the reasons I am willing to fight this battle. My 25 year marriage ended in 2007, and I am hopeful that someday I will meet someone to share my life with.



    Graced - my RO is letting me take a week off from RADS due to a vacation I had planned. He asked me if I could postpone it and I told him "no". I thought we would just start after the vacation, but he didn't want to. So I will have 9 treatments and then have a week off. It's seems your RO is unreasonable to expect you to drive back and forth during your vacation.



    Welcome Kjiberty! The only thing I have gleaned about treating fatigue, is eat lots of protein and rest when you need to/when you can. I am drinking a non-soy protein drink everyday, and trying to be mindful of my protein intake.



    Belinda - sending healing thoughts to you. It must be so frustrating to have this delay. I know I felt a sense of peace once I got started and could make a tentative plan, and see an end to active treatment. RADS isn't fun, but I'm so glad to be on the last step!



    It's too hot here to do much. I was out at a lake all day Sunday, and it was almost too much for me, a long day in the sun. I will stay home today in the air conditioning and work on assignments for my summer class and then go have dinner with my darling grandson.



    Take care -



  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited July 2012

    Teacup:  thanks for the protein tips.  What type of drink do you use?  I bought some shakeology (should be delivered tomorrow).  Where do you live?  I am a Michigander and my entire family (besides my DH, me, and my kids) live in the Detroit area.

     Belinda:  Sending warm thoughts and prayers for healing your way!

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited July 2012

    Karen I drink the shakeology also - there is a new vegan chocolate that I'm thinking of trying.  I usually have my green veggie smoothie but sometimes I feel like I need protein so will add that into my routine!

  • graced
    graced Member Posts: 104
    edited July 2012

    i drink the vega one in the mornings.  it's really good.  i've had the chocolate, the natural and the vanilla chai and i like the natural and the chocolate the best.  it's got greens in it and protein and probiotics and vitamins so it seems pretty well rounded. vitacost has the best price for it compared to whole foods.

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited July 2012

    graced:  Is "vega" the brand name?  

    onvacatin:  I was tempted to get the vegan one but I knew the regular one was good, and for the cost, didn't want to risk it.  Let me know how you like it if you by i.

  • graced
    graced Member Posts: 104
    edited July 2012

    Yes Vega is the brand and Vega One is the product I use.  Website is www.myvega.com.

  • Bar65
    Bar65 Member Posts: 20
    edited July 2012

    I am starting rads on Monday.  I am getting 8 boosts first, then the CAT scan and simulation with radiation that day for a total of 35 treatments.  I have never heard of anyone getting boosts first, but trust the oncologist.  He wants to get rid of any stray cells right away since I had a close margin.  I am also getting the new machine TrueBeam STX which there are supposedly only 10 in the country.  Has anyone had any experience with any of this (boosts first, TrueBeam)?  Because I'm getting boosts first, will I have side effects right away?  Thanks for your help.

  • akinto
    akinto Member Posts: 97
    edited July 2012

    Forgive me if I posted this here already.

    For fatigue, I have used a high protein diet (.5 g per day per pound of body weight). I take omega 3 capsules and tend to eat a ton of salmon to get both omega 3 and protein in. I also take 2000 mg of American Ginseng a day. I had no fatigue throughout my first round of treatment.

     For my skin, I use Vitamin E cream, calendula cream, LaRoche Posay Cicaplast, and Aveeno night time intensive moisturizer. I applied them right after my early morning rads and a few more times daily. Now I apply them whenever I can get behind a closed door.

    As soon as I experienced any twinge out of my breast, I greased it up again. Still doing it 8 days out, and all I have is a little heat rash. (I think that's mostly better today.)

    No skin break down, no fatigue. And I was terrified going in.

  • Belinda977
    Belinda977 Member Posts: 381
    edited July 2012

    ...don't know what they are going to do with me...Incision still healing.  No more wound vac but the doc thinks it will take a another 2-4 weeks to close.  RO said I have to be 90-95% healed.  This is kind of scary.  Oh one hand, I want to get zapped just in case there are floaters in there.  On the other hand, this may hurt if I am not 100% healed.  UGH.

  • graced
    graced Member Posts: 104
    edited July 2012

    Don't worry Belinda - whenever you start, the treatment will still be effective-  if there are any floaters in there they will be totally zapped!

    I had my sim today, going in tomorrow for the tattoos and will start on Monday.

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited July 2012

    I had my last chemo today - YEA !  And my first appt with the RO is Tuesday - so looks like I will be starting in july.  I am ready to get this phase going!

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