June 2012 Mastectomy

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  • Jinkala
    Jinkala Member Posts: 193
    edited July 2012

    I have  a lot of numbness and spots where my skin feels really tender.  Stretching my arm off to the side and up makes a sore pulling feeling which I would guess is normal.

    I also get occasional little stabs of sharp brief pains that feel like they are in/on my missing breast.  It's like the brain is interpreting signals as being from where the nerves used to be and not where they are now.  

    I'm not having any real arm issues though.   They didn't cut into my armpit so I don't have that to deal with at least.

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited July 2012

    @jinkala, that feeling as if it comes from the removed breast may be exactly what you think it is. I saw a fascinating video recently (it might even have been here on bco) that includes a segment about how this "phantom pain" is treated in amputees. It makes me wonder whether the same method would work for women who have a phantom itch or pain in the missing breast after mastectomy. I've heard these can be very distressing, they itch like crazy but there's no way to scratch the itch.

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited July 2012

    I had my 2nd post-surgery followup appointment today. Some fluid had collected since my drain was taken out, so Dr C (the surgeon) drained that. Other than having additional fluid drained if necessary (a same-day appointment with the nurse, like drain removal) I'm discharged as a surgery patient. Dr F (oncologist) had already verified that no RT is necessary so I guess I have completed the first two phases of my treatment.

  • tightwadmomma
    tightwadmomma Member Posts: 10
    edited July 2012

    Taismommy--OMG, the drain removals hurt so bad!!  And that was 2 out of the 4 --- I'm so scared to the have the other removed.  I described it to my DH as ten times worse than  my tattoo!!

  • queenbean84
    queenbean84 Member Posts: 6
    edited July 2012

    Hi Ladies!

    I just found this board, so I'm a little behind.  I had a mastectomy on the left side on June 20.  The surgery was uneventful, which is good, and I had a tissue expander put in during the surgery.  I opted for implants as I already have them anyway.  They were a gift to myself when I was 30.  Wink

    I have to say, finding out I had BC was quite shock.  I went for my very first mammogram and, lo and behold, I have cancer.Surprised

    I ended up with two drainage tubes.  The first one was removed 7 days post-op.  The second is still there.  I have to go see my plastic surgeon again on Thursday and I hope he removes this effin tube!  I could deal with all the post-op pain, but this tube HAS TO GO!  It's like somebody is poking me with a pin every 30 seconds.

    Like others have posted, I have a weird sensation on the bottom of my arm, I guess you would say the triceps area. It's a tad bit sore and it kinda feels like pins and needles.

    I'm glad I found this topic and I am looking forward to following everyone's sucess stories.

    Lisa 

  • kirwin524
    kirwin524 Member Posts: 47
    edited July 2012

    Sounds like you are doing darn well queenbean/Lisa :) welcome to the club sorry you are here. Hated the drain too but guess they serve a purpose.



    My reexcisement has turned into a mess with massive infection. I'm being admitted to hospital for a few days they will go in and clean the wound out and then keep me on antibiotics for a few days.

  • jazlaumir
    jazlaumir Member Posts: 91
    edited July 2012

    Kirwin, sorry for what you're going thru, my thoughts and prayers will be with you.

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited July 2012

    @queenbean84, some of that sensation in the triceps may be caused by your drain. I had quite a bit of soreness and tingling in that area, but it has almost all gone away since my drain was removed last week.

  • loriio
    loriio Member Posts: 247
    edited July 2012

    Kirwin, so sorry. Hopefully the antibiotics will work quickly and get everything cleaned out.



    I got my first of 2 drains out this morning. It wasn't planned, but when I woke up this morning, I noticed blood was leaking from behind the bandage. It had only put out 10ccs yesterday and 5 Ccs overnight. I called the PS and they had me come in and go ahead and take out the drain. Maybe leftie will come out Thursday!

  • MMTOMH
    MMTOMH Member Posts: 127
    edited July 2012

    Congrats curveball! That's awesome--completing two phases of treatment.  

     Kirwin - hang in there! I know you have to get a break soon...prayers for healing being said for you!

    Loriio - I have my first f/u on Friday and am so hoping these drains come out!  I'm thinking I may feel like a new woman!

     I'm six days post-op, feeling pretty well, walking lots, body functions are working and my drainage is dwindling...oh, and I'm just on ibu for pain.  Thankful for you prayers and support, ladies!

  • NanG
    NanG Member Posts: 180
    edited July 2012

    mmtomh! glad your body is functioning! <3

    man, my drain removal felt relieving like letting go of a heavy bag i was carrying for too long.  it didn't hurt at all.  i think it can hurt if its been in for a while and skin starts to grow over the 'exit wound'

    i had my first fill today!!!!!! it was fun! for real...not even joking.  So, my PS saw my green boob and said, "...yeahhhhh...that happens to some people." and went along as normal.  its actually more yellowish brown today girls, so im healing up as i should, PRAISE THE LORD!

    So, heres how my fill went.  I'm sitting in the little room with my mom, showing her the new shade of green/brown/yellow that 'Lefty' has become...when a knock at the door came.  In walks my ps....then a resident....then another resident...then a nurse....LOL! I was laughing because it was like a little clown car.  People just kept coming in through that little door!

    He goes, "so we're both gonna come at you at the same time".  I seriously guffaw laughed out loud and im going...this has got to be a joke, but no....the residents ran over to the sink and elbow battled for the syringe.  The guy won, and he comes over to me quickly just grinning from ear to ear with this needle that was seriously the thickness of a cob of corn!  I made the mistake of looking at him!  I was like, reaching for somebody's hand to hold...but there was too many doctors!  So my mom held my feet and was going, "Hang in there honey...it's gonna be over soon", while she watched my chest expand like sick little water ballons under my chest. (Who am i kidding...these aren't little at all...i'm told he'd 'like' to expand me to 800cc...Surprised)

    As they were filling up the TE, I just lay there on the table, literally out loud going..."ahh, ahhh....ahhhhhhhh...this is weeeiiiirrrrddd....oh my goodness...Jesus, hold mee...ahhhhh" I think I annoyed the PS! lol.  I was so nervous though!! He kept saying, "What is it? What do you feel?"  and i was like, "Its just weird pressure...no pain...just WEIRD!"  So he told me to take a deep breath and that we could stop after one syringe.  THANK THE LORD!

    This was also, by the way, the first time that I laid down completely flat on my back, so I think that added to the strange feelings.  I sat up, and it felt like something was better.  I don't know how to explain it but honestly having just that little bit of extra fluid put in, it feels like something in there that was out of place got squished into place where it belongs and I feel better...almost like, i feel like my shoulders have come forward or something back to where they belong and now my arms dont feel so sore?  Its really wild.  And also, my sides, beneath my underarms...to the sides of my breasts feels like its kind of normal now.  Before they felt really weird, and now they feel like sort of how they used to.  Its so hard to explain all of this. 

    Also, I asked him about the backs of my arms hurting and my skin feeling like a sunburn and he said something about my nerves finding a new path, them being cut and that it was okay, nothing to be concerned about. 

    Additionally...I was looking through the paper the other day and saw that there is a Lymphedema Awareness event coming up NEXT WEEK in my area.  So i called the lady, who has been a Lymphedema Specialist for years, treated BC patients for years...and then ended up being diagnosed with DCIS, which was then graded to Stage 1 GRade 2, and HER2+...!!! So I had a looong talk with her on the phone.  We have the same ps so that was cool as well.  But she is a survivor AND a lymphedema expert so I am SOOOOOOO greatful for that!  Im going to get educated next week and then for sure will go in to talk with her sometime!  I especially want to just be educated on LE so I can be aware and careful! 

    Man...I miss u guys when we don't get to update each other every day!  Junebug Hug!

  • queenbean84
    queenbean84 Member Posts: 6
    edited July 2012

    @kirwin - sorry to hear about your infection.  I feel for you.  Having the wound cleaned out does not sound like fun, and staying in the hospital isn't fun either.

    @curveball - thanks for the info.  I'm hoping to have the drainage tube removed on Thursday, but I doubt it.  I'm still around 60cc/24 hrs.

    @nanG - I loved hearing about your fill!  I'll be going down the same route.  The fill process sounds....daunting.  Was the syringe as big as a corn cob??!!!  Holy crap! The PS wants to fill me about 600cc on the left and around 700 on the right for symmetry.  I'm worried about having the right done, as it's the "normal" breast and it's going to hurt like hell when the put a much larger implant in there than the one I already have (300cc now).

    @MMTOMH - glad to hear you feel better after 6 days.  I'm on day 12 and it's definitely better!  I've been stretching my arm and shoulder the past couple of days and it feels better.  You'll get there!

    On a side note, I decided to shave the jungle growing in my armpits.  I did not feel a thing on the left side.  No pain, just a bit of a pulling sensation.  I wonder if it will always be this way?  Will the nerves regenerate?

      

  • queenbean84
    queenbean84 Member Posts: 6
    edited July 2012

    Oh, I forgot I have a question.

    I know I have to go for chemo but how do they decide if you need radiation too?  Can't seem to get a straight answer from my surgeon. 

  • 7of9
    7of9 Member Posts: 833
    edited July 2012

    kirwin...so sorry you are still having to dick around with this post op mess. Sorry for everyone that had their drains longer than anticipated too. I was bumping them and so sick of sleeping on my back and that was only for 4 days!

     Hope everyone's marriage is holding up. Mine needs some repair work and attention for sure. I about bit my husbands head off tonight - again. I still think he's a good guy and has been 95% supportive. He can still be such a typical selfish, childish man though and I hadn't seen that side in a while, but alas, after 6 months of this shit and loosing my dad suddenly last night...looks like I get the crappy side to deal with now and then too. Timing was crappy. Kid you not, I am very glad to have him and my beautiful 3 year old son. I hope I have some many fine days ahead of me and no more of that feeling that I probably won't be here to see him grow up.

    Take care of yourselves ladies. No one else can do it better than you.

  • loriio
    loriio Member Posts: 247
    edited July 2012

    I think this is such a test of the "in sickness and in health" vow. I did have a sweet moment from hubby last night. I had a busy day yesterday and wound up going to bed at 7:00. (keep in mind I'm still only 1 week out from my BMX.). He kept coming in and feeling my forehead like he thought I might have a fever. He asked my mom several times if she thought I was ok. It was nice. He's definitely not the most sensitive man on the planet and too many nights like that might cause him to tell me to quit being a weenie, but I appreciated it for what it was. He's also taking me for breakfast in the morning. (he has a groupon that's about to expire-but I'll still appreciate the gesture! )

  • NanG
    NanG Member Posts: 180
    edited July 2012

    7of9, loriio...im with you on the husbands thing.  I strongly believe that enduring the shit storm together makes an impenetrable bond and a stronger friendship.  Right now, we're like comrades in battle with our husbands too.  Sort of like Band of Brothers...i mean, we are together in battle but on different fields...your man is right there in the trench beside u.  Im greatful for my Johnny...without him this would be a different war.

    I just watched Gone with the Wind for the first time ever.  I got a lot of inspiration from her in the fields of Tara, being determined to never go hungry again.  Her resolve....of course it bit her in the butt in the long run...but it was a good movie anyways.  I think im coming to a place of peace and resolve about my journey.  I praise the Lord Jesus Christ that no matter the pathology...He has me, has had me since the beginning...and will never let me go.  I also praise Him, because I am a part of the victory because He died in my place...and that my victories are His victories.

    He healed me once, He brought this cancer out into the light by a miracle...and He has not brought me this far out of the miry clay to then drop me back off in the desert, alone and without solace.  He is my Father...and I am His.  I will be made well.

  • MMTOMH
    MMTOMH Member Posts: 127
    edited July 2012

    NanG- That was a fantastic post about your fills.  I'm getting my first fill on Friday, so this makes it less of a mystery for me! 

    Kirwin - still praying for you...hope you are feeling better!

    7of9 - I pray that you and your husband are able to make the necessary repairs quickly.  I know how hard it is to deal with an attitude from someone else, but remember that he loves you and is scared for you and worried about you and feeling helpless, too.  We all need gentle hugs and patience.  You are strong and you have done so much already to kick this cancer's butt, so don't even consider the possibility that you won't see that beautiful baby boy grow up.

    Queenbean - for me, the decision to have RT was made because I had such extensive involvement of the right breast.  If you have a lumpectomy, they recommend rads, if you have lymph node involvement, they recommend rads.  Basically, if you have a high risk of recurrence, they will recommend rads because the risk can be reduced from about 5-10% down to 3-5%.  At least that is what my research has told me...each woman's diagnosis is unique and should be treated as such. 

    Now, let me share my good news!  I just got a phone call from my surgeon and I am officially CANCER FREE! I had a complete pathological response to the chemo, no cancer found in my breast and the final on the lymph node was clear! Praise God! I am so happy I cried! Wish I was home with my family to celebrate, but I'm stuck down here til Friday.  Sure miss my kiddos and my husband, but am thankful for the time to spend with my parents.

  • queenbean84
    queenbean84 Member Posts: 6
    edited July 2012

    @7of9 and loriio

    It is definitely a test of "in sickness and in health".  I am sorry, 7of9, that your husband is being so childish.  It's a trying time when your partner is sick like this and some people just can't step up to the plate. Undecided

    My husband has been wonderful, contrary to what I thought when I found out I had breast cancer.  I haven't washed a dish or any clothes in almost 2 weeks and he hasn't complained once!  I really thought he was going to fall apart but is like a rock!  We have a 4 year old, who can be trying at times.  He has asssumed all responsibility for her, including driving her to and from daycare.  He updates my CaringBridge site when I can't so my family knows what's going on. 

  • queenbean84
    queenbean84 Member Posts: 6
    edited July 2012

    @MMTOMH

    CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

    Cancer Free is probably the best thing you have heard in a long time! 

  • Lisa143
    Lisa143 Member Posts: 19
    edited July 2012

    Hi my June Bugs! Went for my post op today 15 days later....hoping to get drains out only got one out 😞she said next week I can get the other one out! Did talk to her about the tingle on the arm and said it was normal due to cutting the nerves and new ones will grow. She said that she will have me see a physical therapist to prevent lymphadema and also help with range of motion. So I'm sitting there thinking rads and PT and work I will be busy.



    My DH booked a mini vacation for us going to the OR coast for some much needed time from all of this before I start my radiation. I'm so excited I love the ocean 🌊



    Queenbean welcome - I know for me radiation was determined on the size of the tumor my MO said anything 5 or larger gets radiation so as soon as I get my other drain out its my next step of my journey.



    Congrats MMTOMH that is great news 😃😃



    Wishing everyone a Happy 4th of July!!

  • loriio
    loriio Member Posts: 247
    edited July 2012

    Congrats MMTOMH! What a great independence day for you!

  • JenH13
    JenH13 Member Posts: 183
    edited July 2012

    Wonderful News MMTOMH!  Very happy for you!!

  • C-squared
    C-squared Member Posts: 514
    edited July 2012

    MMTOMH~ Such great news!!!  Enjoy the celebration with your parents and again with your family! You deserve at least two! (if not more)

    HAPPY 4th of JULY to all!

    Smile

    CC

  • MMTOMH
    MMTOMH Member Posts: 127
    edited July 2012

    Thank you, everyone! 

  • annievan
    annievan Member Posts: 92
    edited July 2012

    MMTOMH-

    That's fantastic!!!  What a wonderful reunion you'll have with your husband and kiddos!  You have been through so much - "journey" in more ways than one to fight this awful thing.  Now, Happy Independence Day for all of you!

  • loriio
    loriio Member Posts: 247
    edited July 2012

    Progress! I just laid on my side for 10 whole seconds. Woo hoo!

  • Jinkala
    Jinkala Member Posts: 193
    edited July 2012

    I'm awaiting my first post-op tomorrow.  I'm  hoping that they will have my pathology report then.  It was so hard for them to find anything in my breast, I'm nervous that they will have found more than just the DCIS that it took an MRI to find.   My surgeon said that the two nodes they removed looked clear but until I see the final pathology, I won't know if I will have more treatment or not.

    I'm also hoping she will remove the drain as it is quite annoying especially when it accidently gets pulled a little.  She didn't give me a set amount or time so I really don't know yet.  I think I'm getting close to the 50cc a day mark but not quite there yet.   Of course I don't want to deal with a seratoma either.  

    I'm going to ask her about PT or anything else to help reduce the risk of lymphedema.  I've been doing my arm exercises and my range of motion is pretty good but still not complete.  I've been writing down questions to ask her when I go tomorrow so I don't forget.

    Congrats to those who have had good news and whose recoveries are going smoothly. 

    :)

  • annievan
    annievan Member Posts: 92
    edited July 2012

    P. S.  MMTOMH - I'm so happy for your parents, too - - I'll bet it's been hard for them to worry about you from such a distance.  Glad they can be with you for the good news.

    Kirwin:  Oh girl -  You have definitely been through the wringer.  I am so sorry you've had such a tough time.  You are due for things to straighten out and act right!  Do the docs/nurses act like "oh well - this happens?" or do they get alarmed about it?  Got the positive thoughts and prayers going for you today!

    Queenbean:  So glad you found this thread and jumped in - - It's def. been a huge support to be going thru the surgery with others . . . not that you wish it on anyone - just those immediate questions and concerns that others know just how you're feeling.  Wish you'd found it before your surgery, as you would have had some folks to share that pre-op anxiety with.  I'm STILL pre-op (going in next Tues.), but it's so helpful to get an idea of what I'm heading for!

    7of9:  Now dang it - - You don't deserve any more commotion after all you've had in this last month.  I'm sorry your husband acted like a turkey and you had the drama. . . sounds like it might have just been momentary - - hope he gets back to being very supportive, pronto.  I gotta say though, the husbands have a tricky time of it, too.  95% helpful, supportive and wonderful is WONDERFUL, and I hope they know we appreciate it - - it just seems like that 5%, when they revert back to being just a guy for a few minutes is the hard part where hurt feelings emerge!  I really wouldn't want to be in their shoes either - :)  My husband's been really wonderful, and almost out-of-character jumping through hoops for me to get things ready before this surgery - - I don't know if he's scared or what, but I know he's going to have moments when he'll be "enough already" in the near future!  I'm bracing myself  :)

    Lisa 143:  You go have a fantastic trip with your husband on the coast!  I'm sure you were thrilled when they added the PT visits to you to-do medical stuff - - Don't you wonder when you'll ever quit feeling like a patient?! 

    Tightwadmom and Curveball:  I'm so sorry to hear about the drain pain and the fluid.  I've always been creeped out by the thought of those things.  Glad you're released from the surgery and f/u/Curveball and hope the final drain removal is not so bad for both of you -

    And NanG: - I love how you keep us laughing on here!  Thanks for the detailed account of your fills and the entourage enjoying your fills at your PS visit!  Good grief!  Aren't you glad you could be that young fella's learning experience!  What a strange sensation (the fills) - - guess you gotta experience it to know, huh?  I'll be there soon enough.  One thing though. . . I will NOT be at 850 ccs!  I'd look like a little round Dolly with those. . . I'm only 5 ft tall.  I still think this whole pump up the boob thing is surreal.

    Happy 4th of July everyone!  I'm thinking about you, praying for you and thankful for this connection to the MX sistas - -

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited July 2012

    @annievan, thanks for your good wishes but just to clarify for anyone who may be a bit nervous about it, the fluid that collected after my drain was removed did not hurt, and having it removed did not hurt either. The needle was pretty large, although nowhere near the corncob size so vividly described by NanG. Dr C (surgeon) must have stuck it in somewhere that was already numb--she did not use any local anaesthetic but I didn't feel a thing. That was the day before yesterday and there doesn't appear to be any more fluid collecting there now, so I guess I am really all finished.

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited July 2012

    @NanG & queenbean84, I have to say I am in awe at 7-800 cc per TE. That's bigger than my removed boob and my remaining boob put together! A friend of mine was getting married last Saturday, and I was going to get dressed up in honor of the occasion. I've been wearing a Softee camisole since my surgery and decided to put the fiberfill foob into the pocket, which I hadn't been doing. Well, I couldn't get it small enough! I kept pulling out more and more of the filling, but still too large, or wouldn't sit even with the other side. I just couldn't get the side with the filler to match the side without any better than the camisole by itself, so eventually I gave up on the foob and just wore the camisole under my shirt. Anyone got a powderpuff left over from an empty makup compact? That would be about the right size. When I remember how I totally melted down on the phone when my surgeon even suggested delaying reconstruction (let alone going without), I just have to laugh. That's pretty pitiful--my boobs are so small that it isn't really apparent that I only have one. LOL

    Looks like all I really need reconstruction for is so I can wear a regular bra without it sliding up on the left side.

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