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  • klwanderson
    klwanderson Member Posts: 5
    edited July 2012

    I will be checking tomorrow with the onc thank you so much! It is hard enough getting through this, it would be nice to feel my feet she

    I walk.

    Kelly

  • Simplyblessed
    Simplyblessed Member Posts: 16
    edited July 2012

    Good luck to everyone that is undergoing treatment this week. I hope that the SE are minimal and that y'all bounce back quickly.



    Melrose: I fourtunatley have no yet had any issues with neuropathy (yet...fingers crossed) however my mother suffers from it horribly. We are going together tommorrow to try the supplements that you suggested. It's amazing how far reaching the support on this board goes.



    Ellebee: we are similar creatures. I love your posts. I'm like you I was feeling better about myself than ever when this hit me. 34, about to get remarried to an absolutely amazing man and BAM now I have no boobs, my hair is falling out and I don't feel the same about myself. I worry too about my kiddos worrying about me. Not sure if I had shared this or not but I moved my parents in our guest house in 2009 and my father became terminally ill in 2010. We cared for him at home until he passed this past September from Cancer. My heart breaks that my kids are dealing with this Cancer crap all over again.



    I had a pity party in the middle of the night last night ......probably due to the fact that since my surgery and then the chemo my sleep cycle is out of whack. However, I wanted to share a few things with you guys that made me feel better.



    First off I had never heard of the chemo beanie. I am ALL ABOUT THOSE!!! I'm going tomorrow to pick some up. I think I prefer those to wearing my wig!!! Thank you thank you thank you!!



    Next, last night at about 5am I found a neat website. I don't know if it has been discussed before but I find it to be genius. It is a cook once a month site that offers different types of menus. Traditional, Whole foods, gluten free etc. You choose which menu fits your needs. It is so in depth I have been on it for hours. It is free and you choose the menu then it leads you to a printable shopping list, then the recipe cards and lastly the instructions for the day you cook everything.



    For what we are going through I think it is fantastic to pick a day when we feel good and then cook and freeze everything for our families for a month!



    I'm rambling .....I tend to do that now....here's the link hope it helps. I will let y'all know how it works out for us :-)



    http://onceamonthmom.com/

  • ElleBee
    ElleBee Member Posts: 162
    edited July 2012

    Simply Blessed: Thanks so much for the support. At 36 I never expected to be dealing with this. Sort of blind-sided by it. Also thanks for that link! I am going to try that website out and do some of that! My husband would really love to have freezer ready stuff at his disposal when I am out of it or working.

    ElelBee 

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited July 2012

    simplyblessed - Thanks for the link.  It sounds great.

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited July 2012

    I have shed  surprisingly few tears through all of this, so I'm wondering what made me start bawling when I saw a pink ribbon magnet on a car this morning.  Just as I was about to really give in to the tears, the pharmacy called to say that my script for Emend was ready.  For some reason, that snapped me right back to reality and the tears dried up!

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited July 2012

    Several weeks ago, before I could even imagine what it would be like to lose my hair, I ordered a headscarf from www.goodwishesscarves.org.  You choose 3 fabrics that you like and they send you one.  It is very pretty and came with a swarovski angel on one of the tails, as well as a card of well wishes from the entire staff.  It is amazing that there are so many good people out there.

  • pamelahope
    pamelahope Member Posts: 534
    edited July 2012

    Marcia,

    I am glad you found a scarf you like. I am also finding that there are so many good people out there.

    Simplyblessed, I loved the link to once a month cooking. I can wait to try some of the recipes.

    I am on day five and this time is hitting me hard. My husband brought the kids home from school/camp and went out for a quick jog. A neighbor rang the doorbell to drop off goodybags, very nice, for a party I couldnt bring the kids too. I sat down in the entryway on the floor after talking for five minutes. I have been in bed off and on all day. I can't cook like I used to. It took an hour of asking from my bed to get my older kid in the shower. Tomorrow should be better.

    Chemotherapy is working. I don't feel the lump. I am happy and grateful for it. I have had three infusions. Just need one more of A/C. This is the hardest part, doing the last one, which I will. Even water is not appealing right now. I pray taxol is better, which I hear it is. This is the hard part.

    I guess I am having my own pity party right now. I want a life without cancer. I know we all do.

    Tomorrow is day six should be better. Now I understand why the board is called help me get through treatment!

    Pam

  • cmomof4
    cmomof4 Member Posts: 24
    edited July 2012

    Hi Pam.  I sure hope tomorrow gets better for you.  I just spent another two days in the hospital, this time for severe dehydration and three abscesses on my abdomen :-(

    I thought I was doing pretty okay after chemo, but last Friday I nearly passed out at the store.  I literally could not walk.  Now this is just getting ridiculous.

    Infusion #2 is next week, hopefully I can be as proactive as possible to keep those side effects at bay.

  • Simplyblessed
    Simplyblessed Member Posts: 16
    edited July 2012

    Pam my heart goes out to you. It's so hard on us to do this. It takes such determination. I want to lift you up the way you do all of us. I am soooo happy to hear about your lump. 5cm is HUGE and how wonderful that you are able to feel it shrinking away!!!!! I love the way that you are able to see a positive side to everything.



    And hey you know what I've got kids myself 13, 10 and 7. I'm guessing the kid that needed the shower is a boy??? It's summer let him stink...lol. Just kidding but hey do what YOU have to do to make it. This is life changing for us but when it's all over and we are all better our kiddos will barely remember it all. God allows them the be self absorbed for a reason right ;-) Hang in there girl YOU ARE ALMOST DONE!!!!!!!!



    Marcia---I requested one of those wraps Thanks for the tip. They are adorable.



    I have now become and insomniac or a newborn baby that has their days and nights mixed up cant tell which.



    Today is day 7 for me and I looked under this "arm pit boob" I have where they did my SND. It is severely infected and gaping open. I texted a pic to the surgeon and I think even he was grossed out. Called in antibiotics I will see him in the morning. They may admit me. I have surgery for my port scheduled Thursday and he said they may keep me in until then. He will probably end up cleaning all out and re-stitching me. My two JP drain sites are becoming infected too. Confusing as I am OCD anyway and have gotten worse since my BMX about keeping the area clean and dry??? Im also 4 freaking weeks past surgery. Anyone else ever experience this?



    Best of wishes to all you out there. Hoping everyone is having peaceful sleep tonight. Xoxoxox

  • Simplyblessed
    Simplyblessed Member Posts: 16
    edited July 2012

    Cmmom --- did not see your post until after my page refreshed when I submitted my post. How scary!! Did they say what caused the abscesses??? So glad you are feeling better. {hugs}

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited July 2012

    Pamelahope - I am so sorry that it's hitting you so hard, but yay for the lump getting smaller!

    SimplyBlessed - Wow.  That is awful.  I'm glad you're getting that taken care of.

    The company that sends the scarves is amazing.  I don't remember if I mentioned that they sent a card, handsigned by all of the people who work there.  Not just their names, but messages of love, hope, and cheer.  I emailed them to say thank you and they sent me a beautiful email back reminding me that I am beautiful with or without my hair.  

  • pamelahope
    pamelahope Member Posts: 534
    edited July 2012

    Marcia, What a nice company to say you are beautiful with or without hair. It is true! Really, we all have the same face. However, I do understand as when I look in the mirror and see my scalp it is surreal. However, right now I feel to sick for hair!

    Cmim, I was wondering how you were. How did you get an abcess? I am sorry to hear this. It is hard enough just fighting bc we do not need extra.



    Simplyblessed, You had me laughing. It was the seven year old. My almost four year old listens!!!! I don't ask for much. I am not demanding. I just want his teeth brushed twice a day, a shower twice a week, and when I say it is time to get dressed, he just does it. It is hard when I don't have energy to have to battle too!

    I hope your armpit is okay. Even though you were keeping clean I guess chemo weakens our immune system. Let us know how you are.

    Pam

  • pamelahope
    pamelahope Member Posts: 534
    edited July 2012

    Cmom,

    Forgot to mention about that passing out feeling. I get that too. It happens usually on the bad days if I try to get up too much. It is horrible.

    I am not sure about anyone else, but when I heard I had bc, I never knew the treatment was so long or hard.

    Pam

  • radioactivegirl
    radioactivegirl Member Posts: 52
    edited July 2012

    I wrote a long post yesterday and somehow managed to delete it :-(

    Elle - I am 38 and feel blindsided too.  This isnt supposed to happen to young people even though now I am learning about so many people who have had it and it does seem to be affecting people younger and younger :-(  my doc has a 22 year old patient.  

    Marcia - I havent cried much either, but I have been super emotional lately and shed a few . .  . I'm guessing that it is chemopause?  I hate crying, but admit I did feel better afterwards.

    Cmom - how scary! but glad you are out of the hospital now.  Did the docs give you some tips for how to prevent for next cycle?

    Simply - glad the doc is going to look at it.  Hopefully they can clear it up.

    Pamela - I am right there with you, day 7 of round 3 of ac . . . this round has been way harder than previous ones :-(  I have struggled with constipation - well I am going it is just rock hard even though I am eating tons of fiber and taking dulcolax (thanks for whoever suggested it) and drinking water like a fish.  I also feel more tired and have taken more naps.  I really dreaded going in for this infusion because I was feeling better and it was hard to knowingly go in and make myself feel bad.   Oh and my physicians assistant told me that if you struggle with ac you will do better on taxotere but if you breeze through ac you struggle with taxotere.  I dont care if it is true right now, but I am clinging to that hope that it will be better.  I just have to get through this one and one more ac.

    I also have a question - are you working?  Before infusion 3 I was feeling good and thinking I could work, but now I am glad I am not.  But I do kindof miss having something to do every day.   

  • cmomof4
    cmomof4 Member Posts: 24
    edited July 2012
    Pam,  the abscesses are from all of those belly injections (Lovenox) I've been giving myself.  This morning I woke up with 101 fever, day four of a pounding headache and now my hair is falling out.  :-(
  • pamelahope
    pamelahope Member Posts: 534
    edited July 2012

    Cmom, I feel bad about the Lovenox. Are you done with Lovenox? Regarding the fever, call the oncologist, just to let them know. Sending lots of get well wishes your way.

    Radioactive, you really are right there with me!!! I am day six of round three and you are day seven! Thank you for your hope, I pray taxol is easier. I hear it is. I hope I can make it through my last a/c. I start gagging when I see the syringe even though I am loaded up on emend. I will do it. Just dreading... Regarding constipation, are you taking Zofran? If so switch to Emend. I had the constipation problem with Zofran. With Emend, I am fine. Plus, it is so much better than Zofran.

    Regarding work, I have two kids seven and four. Previous to this bc diagnosis, I was an active stay at home mom. I don't see how I would be able to hold down a job. My life now is unload dishwasher, rest, laundry, rest, open mail rest, I am good for fifteen minutes at a time. I will feel good though Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday of next week.

    If I am correct, you recently stopped working. The adjustment will get easier. When I stopped working, to move to Florida, it felt like a big loss. I missed coworkers and feeling part of something. It will get easier. Plus, this is temporary, after treatment you can go back. Right now, concentrate on getting better and enjoy this break the best you can. I don't miss working anymore, but sometimes think I would like to do something health related post bc. I do miss being part of the world of healthy people living their lives. Especially, tomorrow, being 4th of July. My husband will take the kids somewhere and I will be stuck home alone. However, thinking positive, next year we will all be enjoying with an increased appreciation.

    Pam

  • radioactivegirl
    radioactivegirl Member Posts: 52
    edited July 2012

    I get emend via my IV just before the "red devil" and I do have zofran and decadron for days 2 and 3, but this has not changed and I didnt have the issue on rounds 1 and 2.  The only thing I did different this time was that I took pepcid.  last round I had an incredibly horrible sour/acid stomach on day 4 so they told me to take pepcid starting to day 1.  i did and think it dried me out - i woke up on day 2 and felt dry - even my face was incredibly dry/peeling.  I googled it and pepcid can dry you out and despite drinking a ton of water I did feel dry.  I am definately going to talk to the doc about this before the last round.  

    I think I am missing social interaction - I know I love going to the store to pick up something and get out of the house yet not use too much energy and still feel productive.  I have not made many plans with friends, even though some do ask as I just dont know how I will feel.  I am bummed about having this during the summer when there are so many great activities to do too.  I told my hubby when this is over that we are goign on vacation.  We were planning on going to cancun in december before this happened so I am hoping we can still do that.  Well if it isnt Cancun in December we are going somewhere as soon as I can.  Something to look forward to.

  • mom24boyzs
    mom24boyzs Member Posts: 53
    edited July 2012

    Marcia- I have she'd only a few tears too. Unusual for me because I am a ral crybaby!



    Pamela- hope you are feeling a little better today. Glad you can feel that lump getting smaller! Yeah for that victory!!! I have children too. My 3 oldest are great(20,17,& 15), but the youngest is only 8(9tomorrow) and he is having a hard time following directions too. He gets upset when I ask him to the littlest thing. Luckily the older three help keep him in line. I'm not sure what I would do without them!



    Simply- hope those infections clear up quickly. That has to hard. Keep us updated.



    Radioactive- hope those se clear up quickly. I have had the opposite problem and neither sounds fun. You asked about working, I teach so I have the summer off. I should have my last chemo just right after school starts. I am going to try to work through it. I will still have the Herceptin once a month after, so I will see how it goes. I am a little worried because I just get so darn exhausted from all of this. I hope I can keep up with the kiddos.



    Have a great day all!!

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited July 2012

    mom24boyz- Wow. That's quite an age range.  I have 2 boys - one is 15 and the other will be 17 in early September.  I can't imagine having 4!  I also work in a school (I'm an SLP) and have the summer off.  I will get through AC and 1 taxol before school resumes.  The NP just told me that taxol takes 6 hours!  I guess that will definitely have to be a day off.  She said I should be able to work the next day. 

    Pam - I'm so sorry about the 4th.  You have such a positive attitude, though.  Stay strong!

  • pamelahope
    pamelahope Member Posts: 534
    edited July 2012

    Marcia, Taxol takes six hours? Really. OMG! There are so many endless hoops to jump through and endless coping! I am glad you warned me. I would of been blindsided! This gives me time to adjust. I was thinking of icing during it but reconsidering.

    Are you going to take b6 to prevent neuropathy? I didn't ask yet about.

    Radioactive, I am also planning where I want to go on vacation once this is over! I wonder if everyone is. We will all need it! I tell you it will be the most appreciated vacation we ever had!!

    Mom24boys, you are lucky to have the older boys to keep the younger one occupied and in line. Must be the age. My children are coping beautifully though. Children are very resilient. We are lucky for that. They talk to me like I never had hair at all! They are so used to a bald Mama. They are not afraid to be around me like I feared. They say I love you more now, not noticeably more, subtle. About the listening, that is still a problem!!!

    Hope everyone is having a good day! We are almost halfway through treatment. We made it past the beginning. We will get through.

    Pam

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited July 2012

    Not sure why Taxol would take six hours - my Taxotere infusion was never more than 90 minutes, not counting the pre-med infusion prior.  I would definitely ice - the nail SE is not pretty and potentially permanent.  For neuropathy B6 alone is probably not enough - I would recommend the B6, L-Glutamine and Acetyl L-Carnitine combination - of course, MO consent is mandatory.

  • pamelahope
    pamelahope Member Posts: 534
    edited July 2012

    Hi SpecialK! Is the neuropathy permanent if you get it? Pam

  • pamelahope
    pamelahope Member Posts: 534
    edited July 2012

    Also, hope you are doing well! Pam

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited July 2012

    The NP told me 6 hours, but I thought the MO had said 4.  I still have two more AC infusions before taxol, so I haven't given any thought to the icing.  I guess I'll have to look into it.  My 3rd AC is on Thursday.  I'm trying to get some things done around the house before I head into my crash.  It's amazing how much stuff my family accumulates!  I did a lot, but now I'm tired.  My friend's son is having a yard sale and I'd like to give him as much as I can. 

  • ElleBee
    ElleBee Member Posts: 162
    edited July 2012

    Pam and Marcia: My taxol with Herceptin combined has been taking roughly 2.5-3 hours. The herceptin takes 30 minutes, and since you guys are HER2-, it should only be 2-2.5 hrs. for you. The first infusion took 5 hours, but only because I had to meet with the onco, do some pretesting (EKG, and bloodwork), and they gave me a loading dose of Herceptin that took 1.5 hrs. to infuse. The first time might take a little longer becasue they will likely watch you for a reaction.

    Pam: My pal had terrible neuropathy, but it went away within a month of stopping chemo.

    Radioactive: I have taken Senocot-S, which has both a laxative and a stool softener combined. That seems to help with the constipation I get on day 2&3. Also, since you asked about working, I have not missed a day of work since i began chemo. But I am on taxol/herceptin....the easier cocktail. I am pretty tough and can work even when I feel terrible, so I am curious to see how I handle AC and whether I can work through that too. But honestly, SE's have been completely manageable...and I do not sit at a desk. I am on my feet a lot. I am teaching a 5-week course beginning Thursday. I am curious about how my brain will do. I find myself getting more tongue-tied lately...lose my train of thought easier.

    Cmomof4: Sorry about the hair darling. Mine is falling out too. It began a week ago. I have probably lost 1/4 of the volume. Hoping I can make it through the weekend with hair. Then I will probably ask my hubby to take me to get it buzzed after chemo Monday.

    Oh, and for fingernails...week 5 on taxol (dose 4) and no changes yet.

    Off to rest before work. More later! Have a great holiday tomorrow everyone (in the US, that is).  

    ElleBee 

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited July 2012

    pam - yes neuropathy can be permanent.  I did do the supplementation I mentioned above, did have fingertip and tongue tingling between tx that would resolve before the next tx three weeks later.  At tx#4 I started to have numbness on the soles of my feet which persisted but did finally resolve by about 2-3 months after the last tx.  There are a significant number of ladies on the TCH and triple positive threads who have some amount of permanent neuropathy, some of it severe and debilitating.  I would advise supplementing during the taxane portion of your chemo so that if you do have some neuropathy, it may be short-lived, or not as severe.  Same concept as the icing of nails, and treatment in general.  When you are done and looking at this in the rear view mirror you can know you did everything you could to walk away cancer free and SE free.

  • cmomof4
    cmomof4 Member Posts: 24
    edited July 2012

    Pam, I got a three day break from the Lovenox and I was so happy b/c I thought I was finished with it (so did my Dr.) since my pt/inr got to 2.5.  When I was in the hospital over the weekend, it dropped back to 1.9, so they made me start taking the injections again.  My reading from last night was 1.5.  :-(

    I called my onco about the fever so they had me run up and have a CBC drawn;  haven't heard back yet.

    Radio:  They want me to make sure im super-hydrated and also take Imodium the day of chemo next cycle, so we'll see...

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited July 2012

    Ellebee - That's good news.  I can't imagine sitting for 6 hours!  Today was the first time I heard that it would take that long.  I will get one taxol infusion before I go back to work, so that will help me gauge how long I should plan on being out of work.  I was hoping to work in the a.m. and have the infusion in the p.m., but she said they only do it in the morning because it takes so long.  If it is only going to be 3 hours, then maybe I can go in in the afternoon.

  • pamelahope
    pamelahope Member Posts: 534
    edited July 2012

    Cmom, I had trouble with my INR and was clotting when my INR dropped. I recently switched to Arixtra. I told my MO I was having trouble managing my INR on Coumadin so he is switching me to Fragmin. Once a day like Arixtra without the gastrointestinal side effects of Lovenox.

    Ellebee, I am impressed how well you are doing on chemo. It shows you how everyone is different. Most of my friends are like you. I called up one on a bad chemo day and said something tells me if this were you, you would be at the gym. She said yes! She works out alot, even when she was sick from the flu! My husband too doesn't give in easily. I hope to do better on Taxol. Something is telling me not to ever sign up for boot camp! Speaking of adriamycin when I called the y-me hotline in my first panic stricken days after diagnosis I spoke to a lady who worked while undergoing a/C. I think days 3-5 are the hardest and just guessing if you plan your treatment and work around those days you will be fine.

    Special K, speaking of fatigue the thought of icing and doing extra was wearing me out. However, you are right. I don't want to chance permanent neuropathy. I will do!

    Marcia, Good luck with the yard sale. The days before chemo are so great because you can get stuff done and feel almost normal. Enjoy! Pam

  • radioactivegirl
    radioactivegirl Member Posts: 52
    edited July 2012

    Wow, a lot of you are working - you have my admiration :-)

    Cmom - hope your docs can help you out and your numbers start going up again.  It sucks not knowing exactly what is going on in your body, yet knowing somthing is off.

    I have to start doing some research on taxotere .  ..  I hope it doesnt take 6 hours at my place although I did find that it kindof depends on the nurse and time of day.  Last one was at 10am and I think it was better than at 1:30pm - different nurses, but I think at 10 you just have more energy, not to mention I think at 10am she wanted to go to lunch so she made sure and didnt dilly-dally.

    Hugs to whoever is going through the hair loss - I dreaded the thought of losing my hair, but have adjusted quite well.  I did cut it all off just as it was starting to fall out, but my hair was really long and I wanted to donate it.  At least no hair in summer has its benefits . . . just trying to find the silver lining. 

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