April/May 2012 Chemo hang out

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  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited July 2012

    I had a motion sickness patch placed behind my ear by the anesthesiologist right before my UMX surgery to help prevent post-op nausea.  It must have worked since I didn't get any nausea.  Not sure if that is the same patch.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited July 2012
    nofear2012- Have you tried drinking some Ensure since you aren't eating enough?  I've gained very little weight since starting chemo (1-2 pounds).  Wish we could figure out how to get your tummy issues under control!!!!!
  • babysammy
    babysammy Member Posts: 74
    edited July 2012

    Glad to hear I am not the only one with food cravings and wt concerns.  I never really thought about the body needing to regenerate causing cravings.  Wish I would crave healthy food and not doritos..lol... Maybe I need salt!  trying not to be too hard on myself.  My wt hasnt changed much but I think that my muscle fat ratio has changed.  Went to do some yoga,  touch my toes!!!  Maybe my knees!

    Wishing everyone a great weekend, is Canada Day here tomorrow.Cool

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited July 2012

    babysammy- I know when my taste buds are back----- when Doritos taste like Doritos!!! lol

  • nofear2012
    nofear2012 Member Posts: 160
    edited July 2012

    Melrosemelrose- I do drink ensure plus other liquid calorie rich drinks just to keep calories in me when I cannot eat. It does seem as if my tummy is a little better but it is day by day. Today wad a good day, eat 3 full meals today, so I am grateful for that. Hopefully ill feel the same tomorrw. Just want my body back.

  • SadeSurvivor25
    SadeSurvivor25 Member Posts: 119
    edited July 2012

    OMG, I have gained close to 20lbs since starting chemo!!! I've been trying to lose weight but I keep gaining. I feel like a huge blimp! The oncologist didn't even seemed concerned but I am. I was overweight before chemo but I still thought I was cute but now I just feel fat as hell. I try to watch what I eat (except for those chemo cravings) and I've been working out 5 days a week. I even started the Insanity workout last week in hopes of it helping. Next week I'm gonna see if I could possibly get less steroids.

  • FightingLikeAGirl
    FightingLikeAGirl Member Posts: 69
    edited July 2012

    This weight gain is so frustrating...I have an appt with the nutritionist at my Onc office the week after next.  I'm hoping she has some good ideas.  I'll keep you all posted on what she tells me.  The thing is...I know what I should and shouldn't eat...I just don't pay much attention to it.  I have to do a better job at shopping and not be distracted by the bad foods.  I guess if I don't bring them into the house I won't eat them...could it be that easy...probably not.  I live alone so I stay at my parents house for the first 7 - 10 days after chemo and just let them take care of me.  My amazing sister comes into town for all of my tx's and she stays for about 5 days.  They are all so worried about me and they make yummy things for me to eat like pudding and banana bread and mac & cheese...as I'm typing it im craving it...jeez...this has got to stop!!!

    I finally got the nerve up to take a pic of me topless...just posted it tonight...kinda scary!

  • Fierro6
    Fierro6 Member Posts: 224
    edited July 2012

    I like the pic!  I think you're beautiful.

  • chapter4
    chapter4 Member Posts: 155
    edited July 2012

    nofear2012 - we are on the exact same schedule. I go in for my third taxol Tuesday as well due to holiday and finish the 17 or 18. Not sure which day yet. I'm feeling really good...minimal side effects. I'm really not tired even though I dont sleep well and only have the muscle and joint pain for a couple of days after treatment, it's not bad at all. I've had some feet issues....peeling on my heels and toes. I'm walking more now, but my heel sometimes prevents me. I was about to run my first half marathon before all this happened...had trained all the way up to a 12 mile run....wanted to do it before I'm 50 and I still hope to once this is all done. I'm so out of shape from all this.....



    How are you doing with taxol? Do you have radiation after?



    I hope everyone is enjoying their weekend....I love the stories of support...I too have been overwhelmed by it and will pay it forward as well!

  • Pkate
    Pkate Member Posts: 37
    edited July 2012

    Hey gang,

    Has anyone had to switch from DD Taxol every other week to weekly Taxol?  My onc had my switch last week to try and prevent my neuropathy from getting worse.  They told me the side effects would be less so I innocently thought this was a good thing.  Now that I'm 4 days out from that treatment and heading for the next on Tuesday (one day early due to holiday) and I am feeling the same effects as the every other week.  I'm bummed that I'm not going to have any good days before the next one starts.

    This extended my treatment by 3 weeks.  :(  I am so ready to tell her that I'm done with it all.  Anyone on weekly Taxol have the same experience?

    Pkate

  • lsharvey822
    lsharvey822 Member Posts: 257
    edited July 2012

    @Fighting - I like the picture!  I need to get off my butt and get one too.

  • vballmom
    vballmom Member Posts: 426
    edited July 2012

    PKate, I am starting weekly Taxol in two weeks, so I don't have an answer for you but have you checked out the Weekly Taxol thread?   Maybe someone there may have an answer for you.  Are you taking anything for the neuropathy?  Hope it eases up soon.

    Fighting - you look fabulous, just like the rest of us!  I can't say you look happy in that shot, but heck, who here is really happy about being bald? I am sick of it already and I've got months ahead of me!  Wore my wig to party yesterday and I had it off ten feet out the door when I left. Dang, it's hot.

    This is a great read: The Things I Wish I Were Told When I Was Diagnosed with Cancer.

    I initially lost weight after my surgeries, but despite my nausea issues, I am now gaining weight.  I know it's because I keep eating thinking SOMETHING has to taste good or feel good.  Plus, I have been pretty much given license to eat whatever works during chemo. I think I need to change that.  I went for a short walk on my treadmill yesterday and need to do more of that, too.  Two of my dearest friends and supporters are on Tamoxifen and they have both put on a bunch of weight despite working out every day.   I know that's around the corner for me, too.

    I am finally starting to think about reconstruction. I don't want to go into surgery adding perky breasts to a flabby out-of-control overweight body.  I'm not being negative, I'm being honest. I need to lose 25 pounds.  Instead of being all sad about it, I'm actually looking forward to reclaiming my health and body on this journey.

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited July 2012

    Fighting:  Love your pic--you are beautiful!

    As far as weight gain,I haven't gained or lost any, which is good.  However, I do need to lose 20 lbs.  My MO said not to worry about it until chemo is over.  I am going to make an appt. with a dietician in a few weeks.  I need to stay on a straight and narrow path as whatever drug they put me on (AI) will cause weight gain.  Can hardly wait....

    Nofear:  I feel badly for you. I wish you could gain some weight.  My friend has pancreatic cancer and has lost 25 lbs from chemo.  She's about 80 lbs. now.  She has such a positive attitude!  I don't know how she does it. 

  • TriChick
    TriChick Member Posts: 56
    edited July 2012

    Hearing your frustrations!!  When my taste comes back even a little bit I am craving mexican food, chips, ice cream etc.  I satisfied my mex food craving by making homemade chilequiles two days in a row!  Easy and delicious.

    Off topic I would like to share some good news, dont mean to brag but I am very excited:  I have been hired to head up a new cycling club in my area at a new facility:  www.eziahp.com !!  I have done things like this in the past, this is my profession for the last 15 years.  When the owner told me I was hired I got an overwhelming insecure sensation that I have to say, I have not had in many, many years especially when it comes to cycling.  I felt almost like I had overextended myself.  Even though I communicated to him about my current situation, upcoming surgery and time off the bike required.   Bike clubs take several months, even years to build.  Now that I have had some time to think logically about it I am sure I will be fine but this diagnosis and all we go through really wears on more than just our bodies...it is hard work to keep it ALL together.

    Thanks for listening. I am off to go mountain biking with some pals before the SoCal "heat" sets in!  I wish you all a fantastic day with very minimum or NO se's at all!

  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited July 2012

    Trichick:  WOWOWOWOW! Congrats!  How exciting!  

  • Husker123
    Husker123 Member Posts: 101
    edited July 2012

    Thank you Vballmom, that was a great article.

  • mary71145329
    mary71145329 Member Posts: 133
    edited July 2012

    Trichick ---Congrats!

    Fighting --love the pic! You as well as all of us show beauty and strength!

  • vballmom
    vballmom Member Posts: 426
    edited July 2012

    Congrats, TriChick!  How wonderful is it to have some non-cancer related good news!  I am so happy that you are living your life, despite this wretched diagnosis.  I feel like have been barely treading water most days.

    On a good note, I woke up full of energy and excitement for the day.  I am in a decluttering frenzy and I almost feel as if I am nesting.  Maybe it's because I know that tomorrow I am back in the chair and it will be a week before I will feel good again?

    My quote for the day, "You can never cross the ocean unless you have the courage to lose sight of the shore."  For me, that's how I feel about chemo and my medical team. I need to trust in them implicitly, having faith that I will come out safely on the other side. 

    Mary, you look so darn cute in a scarf.  I wish I did.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited July 2012

    Gosh, I hear all of you on the weight/cravings. Between my surgery and tx#2, I had lost about 15 pounds - except for whatever my boobs weighed, that was weight I needed to lose. I weighed 144 when I started chemo (I'm 5'5"), and the dietitian I talked to said that was the perfect weight for starting chemo. I think sne meant, not too heavy, not too thin. She had all the advice for what if nauseated, no appetite, etc. Well, I never had nausea or appetite issues, and I too eat what sounds good, and while I make sure to get fiber and healthy choices, as txs go on and my tastebuds get worse, I have given in to eating chips and I have to make myself not eat sweets when I want them. Chips were always my weakness and a sure way for me to end putting on weight. Plus I am a stress eater, always have been. So last tx I was up to 149. Same weight as one before so it does seem like the gaining has tapered off. I hope. I am exercising more and thinking about getting a yoga video or something (not a very good class person).





  • kjiberty
    kjiberty Member Posts: 1,385
    edited July 2012

    Vballmom:  Great article. Of course, I cried. Glad you're having a good day.  That's how I felt last weekend.  I was going to do as much as I could since I would be down for the count this weekend

    Indigo:  I had a massage the other day and she taught me some yoga exercises.  I have done yoga in the past but it's been several years.  I want to get through this first week PFC before i think about doing anything, but it's something I plan to do.

    Mary:  I like your scarf too!  Nice pic! 

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited July 2012

    Fighting - great pic!!!  And, oh, so tough to turn down goodies made by others, I know!  And I do believe not bringing bad food into the house makes a huge difference for me.  Every time DH goes to the store and brings something bad home I'm like "Gaaahhhh!"  My willpower goes out the window once bad food is easily in reach.

    I've been fortunate that my weight so far has not changed much. I've gone up and down by 2 or 3 pounds each way throughout chemo depending on appetite changes/big C or D, but as of today I'm only up 1#.  I'm really trying to get back on the healthy diet now that I am PFC.  I made up a weekly menu plan today and am psyched about the yummy foods I have planned.  I figure I better stay on it, b/c who knows what challenges are coming my way with Tamoxifen. 

  • Pkate
    Pkate Member Posts: 37
    edited July 2012

    VBallmom - great article and thanks for referral to Weekly Taxol - so new I hadn't seen it.

    So glad to have power back now after the storms in our area.  Hope others get theirs back soon with all this heat.

    Hugs to all,

    Pkate

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited July 2012

    Trichick- Congrats!!! Sounds like the owner is very much aware of your health situation and very understanding.  We all know you will do your best at whatever you do.  Please try not to put too much stress on yourself and get overwhelmed.  i'm sure you know when you need to take a little step back and rest.  Good luck on your new endeavor!!!!

    Eating..... I remember Sandik saying that she liked to eat veggies, fruits and chicken the most and she was losing weight since on chemo.  I've noticed I don't like salt on my food, foods with butter &  fats but can eat those Doritos!!!!  Go figure!!!!!  Things that have a fresh taste seem to appeal to me the most--- veggies, fruits.  I've had to change up my meat choices lately to red meat to help get those red blood counts up.

    Hoping everyone has a wonderful day with minimal side effects!!!!  Thinking of all of you and HUGS!!!!! 

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited July 2012

    Those who are into yoga...Rodney Yee is awesome, not to mention some great eye candy to look at while stretching...Wink

    vballmom - wow, that article was fantastic.  Thank you so much for sharing it!  

  • vickilind61
    vickilind61 Member Posts: 338
    edited July 2012

    Ladies, I am LOVING all the new pic's; you all are so dam# beautiful!!!  As soon as my hair is all gone, I will be posting a pic; can only hope to look as amazing as all of you.

    Trichick, that is SO cool.  All of you who are so athletic are great; me, I excel at couch=potato relay.  I have gained 20+ pounds since Nov, which was before my diagnosis, but most of that has come Since the dx.  My tx did nothing to affect my taste, cravings or tummy issues...not enough to change my diet.  So, I will be one of those oddballs who gains weight unless I start thinking about my food.  I know what I need to do, I am just not doing it.

    Dance, glad you are doing better.  That blasted thrush just loves you so much.  You need to really break up with him and send him somewhere else...maybe Match.com?

    All of us going to the BGC this week, let's keep our chins up and kick some cancer butt!

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited July 2012

    That patch does work. I had it for surgery too. But it did cause the dry mouth to end all dry mouth! Annoying. I felt like a dentist was blowing air in my mouth 24/7.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited July 2012

    Sade, while I am sympathizing with you on the weight frustration, I am really glad to see that you are feeling well enough to do something called an Insanity exercise! So glad all the chemo nausea misery is behind you. My oldest is about to turn 23, and I have felt like at you you could be my daughter too. Hugs to you - not only will we survive but we are going to show the world how it's done.

  • mary71145329
    mary71145329 Member Posts: 133
    edited July 2012

    Thank you for the compliments on my profile pic....bandannas are by far the most comfortable thing for me to wear. Walmart sells them for $1 apiece so I can have 1 of each that they sell!!!

    I received a get well card from a woman down the street that I've only waved to in passing. Very sweet. It made me realize that what's going on with me is pretty obvious ---Silly me thought I was staying under the radar! Not that I care if people know, I'm just private. Well I figured if she knows then others do too ......so I jumped in the pool topless!! what an amazing feeling! And I did notice one of my neighbors gawking from his yard...haahahaha





  • vickilind61
    vickilind61 Member Posts: 338
    edited July 2012
  • nofear2012
    nofear2012 Member Posts: 160
    edited July 2012

    Chapter4 - taxol has been kinda hard on me, a different mixed bag from AC. I do not have that chemo fog and as of Friday I have felt pretty good both physically and emotionally. The emotions are the hardest for me to manage. Last week I had some really hard down days emotionally that I never felt on AC. I see a psychologist who counsels only oncology patients and he explained that the taxol/taxotere chemo drug hits harder the emotional/depresssion part of the person. It will deplete the neurotransmitters which brings on depression but that a person will rebound. Everyone is different so it may not affect everyone the same, I know for me I was hit pretty hard. For at least 3 days after infusion I feel good, but by day 4 I crash and I have had a lot of aches in my lower back/spine area. Not to bad for bone pain. That will last usually thru day 6/7. My stomach issues has decreased since being on taxol but I am far from being what I was before AC, I also am dealing with thrush and that is an on/off thing. I have numbness on my fingertips and bottoms of my feet but that gets betters the further out from treatment. My face too was also numb around my mouth and chin. I am so ready to be done with this.

    I have a questions for everyone who is considering whether to do radiation or not. I fall in the grey area which means the dr's cannot say whether given my situation having radiation will make a different in preventing reaccurance. One dr's said that if I didn't have my first node affected he would be ok with recommending no radiation. My one node that is involved was a micro foci of cancer 06mm amount of cancer was detected in the node a very small amount. So basically the question of whether to do radiation is more of a peace of mind issue, because there are no studies that fit my situation to support or not support radiation. So for everyone who is questioning radiation I would like to hear from you or if anyone has any advice I would welcome that too.  

    Everyone looks wonderful in their new pics.

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