March 2012 chemo

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  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited June 2012

    The younger one does too when she smiles - same chipmunk chubby cheeks...their coloring is just different.  S is brown hair/hazel eyes and A is dirty blonde/green eyes.

    Here is what I did today....

    cake

    I had some oreos, chocolate chips and a can of white frosting so it turned into a cookies and cream type cake for DH...

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited June 2012

    kltb that cake looks yummy!  Your kiddos are so cute!

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited June 2012

    Hi all - somehow the March chemo thread fell off my favorites and I thought no one was posting!  Silly me.  I see some of you are finished with chemo - congratulations.  Some are very hot -  seems like only us West Coasters are having nice weather at the moment.

    I finished my last DD Taxol 3 weeks ago, but moved on to my 6 weeks (which is really suppose to be 7 weeks with one week off...we'lll see) of Carboplatin.  I've rid myself of about 40% of my tx#4 Taxol neuropathy but what is left is still unacceptable -grrrrr.  One of the SE's of carboplatin is neuropathy, so we'll have to see.  Yet another new feeling with a new type of chemo - can't explain it...just very very sluggish. 

    Anybody still going to be hanging out here in early August??  Blessings to you all Cool

    Has anyone seen Corky? (Telle)

  • Sissydi
    Sissydi Member Posts: 516
    edited June 2012

    I'll be here! I finish Taxol mid August, then on to rads!

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited June 2012

    kltb-your girls are adorable. Looks like you had a fun Bday party. Could you send some desserts up here?  I don't do homemade, my guys would like me to though.

    It's going to be over 100 for the 3rd day in a row. YUCK

    For the past few days I've had weirdness going on in my right hand and foot. It's like they are one the verge of falling asleep, very strange feeling. 

  • shera
    shera Member Posts: 184
    edited June 2012
    Hi everyone... so glad to see so many "final treatments done" postings... wish we could throw a huge party when the last of us "marchers" is done. Guess it'll have to be an online party.

    I am still feeling wonderfully energetic these days... last tx was May 2. (TCx4). When i say energetic... I mean back to how I felt 5+ years ago. The 2 years leading up to diagnosis -- I was fighting a fatigue I had never known... didnt know if it was being 44 years old or something else. Since many people my age and older were still energetic, I was skeptical about blaming age. Now it seems that it was the body fighting tumors... which are gone now = energy back. However--- based on the level of energy and wellness I am feeling --I attribute some of it to supplements and bikrim (hot) yoga -- very detoxifying!

    Therefore--I want to share with all of you the supplements my naturopath has me taking as part of my post-chemo recovery.

    Multivitamin - Omnivite with Iron (2 xs per day)

    Thorne Research, Meriva-500, curcumin phytosome (2 xs per day)

    Protocol for Life Balance, Acetyl-L carnitine 500mg (2 xs per day)

    Vitanica, CoQ10 EXTRA 100mg (1 per day)

    Also taking vitamin E, D, Omega-3 oils, and biotin (to support hair growth)

    The above are all capsules... below are liquid tinctures which I've taken specifically for detoxing at the cellular level.

    Brand is - UNDA numbered compounds

    I'm taking "homeopathic preparations" #1, #20, #243

    I take 5 drops of each 3 times a day -- which I've done for 4 weeks now and will be checking in with my naturopath in a few days. I was to go on this for 4 weeks and then stop and see how I feel. The idea being that I won't be on these forever.

    They each have 30% alcohol -- its typical to use alcohol for tinctures.They each have a number of ingredients -- seems to be mostly a combination of herbs.

    I began these about a week prior to beginning Tamoxifen, which I've now been on for about 3 weeks. Only side-effect I notice at this point is hot flushes.. which began for me during chemo after it made my period stop in March. I cannot tell if the hot flushes are worse or not with Tamoxifen... but I was getting them maybe 8-10 times a day and it seems to be a little less now (or I'm getting used to them...?) I hate them though. They are a constant reminder that my body got screwed around with. BUT-- hopeful that they will subside, perhaps from exercise and dietary influences. Still workin at it.

    As far as hair--- I too always had some fuzz on top ---but from any distance other than 'up close' I looked as bald as you could be! Today marks 8.5 weeks since final treatment and my hair is just covering my head enough that I am going around 'topless' now.... and I can pinch and pull it with my fingers!! woohoo. There is more gray than before... but unless you're up close-up, it looks dark. Sadly though... my eyebrows..which lasted all through treatments, have dwindled down to a sparse few hairs post-treatment. I might try that Latisse stuff after all. Anyone know if it works for brows, or if its just for lashes?

    Last bit of hair trivia -- I went out with friends last night, hatless for the first time, and at least 3 people felt the urge to rub my head... surprisingly I didn't mind (I wouldve thought I'd want to drop-kick them for that!) I just started telling them to "make a wish" lol.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited June 2012

    Hi Shera! I'm keeping your list for when I'm done. I'll finish in September. I haven't tried Latisse before but I undsrstand you can use it on brows.

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited June 2012

    Shera - great list - thank you!

    lost - is that the neuropathy type feeling?

    Sissy and Kam - I'll be here!  I calculated my last chemo around August 13...still haven't heard on rads.  But I know that someone has started a Summertime rads thread that a lot of people are posting on, even if they haven't started rads yet.

    Had a sad reminder of how this affecting my kids last night...my oldest came in my room after midnight crying.  She said she had had a bad dream and it was about me.  I didn't probe any further but I can imagine what she meant.  Poor baby, she begged to sleep with me and l let her.  She had woken my youngest up and made her get in the bed with her so I am surprised I didn't end up with both of them but A went on back to sleep I guess.  

    As a result I also ended up with two cats in the bed.  I have been trying to keep them out of there simply for my ocd germ control and the hair, etc...but they were happy as little clams all curled up so I let them stay.

  • Alicethecat
    Alicethecat Member Posts: 535
    edited June 2012

    Hi Karri and Sissy

    I'll still be here. Chemo doesn't end until 17 August.

    Three sessions to go.

    I'll keep you company!

    Alice 

  • Sissydi
    Sissydi Member Posts: 516
    edited June 2012

    Shera, thanks for sharing all of that! I'm definitely saving it!



    Glad we still have some peeps hanging out until chemo ends through August! I went and found the Summer 2012 Radiation thread...all joined up for the next phase! It's hard to believe its almost here. My journey started last December.

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited June 2012

    Sissy - are you doing Herceptin for a year - I see you are HER2+ - the end of chemo doesn't seem so momentous when I think about the fact that I have to go back every 3 weeks for a year.  Sigh....

  • Sissydi
    Sissydi Member Posts: 516
    edited June 2012

    Yes, and your right kt.......still a year of Herceptin to go. I guess I don't count it in my head like I should, because it's not chemo, lol!

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited June 2012

    That's true - and it doesn't have the SE that chemo does - there just should be a seperate Herceptin room, lol!  Then again, my aunt goes for various infusions every month for her different health conditions that have nothing to do with cancer, so I suppose infusions are for more than just chemo!

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited June 2012

    Shera - thanks for the list - will be writing them down for sure!

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited July 2012

    ktlb- I'm not sure what it is but I'm going to ask about it.

  • Alicethecat
    Alicethecat Member Posts: 535
    edited July 2012

    KLTB and Sissy

    I'm doing a year of Herceptin too!

    The nurses are trying to persuade me to have a Hickman line or a port. No way!

    Alice

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited July 2012

    Alice and Sissy - anyone else??  A - don't blame you for not wanting a port at this late date.  I chose one because my veins are sh($ and nonexistent even before this all started, it took a lot of poking and prodding to ever find a vein. But as long as you have good veins, I wouldn't bother now.

    lost - sure hope you find out what is causing your weird feelings.

    Ok, I guess it is date night - taking the kids to my parents and we are going out to eat and to see Ted - low brow comedy, I know! Taxotere #2 tomorrow - blech.

  • TrailGirl
    TrailGirl Member Posts: 46
    edited July 2012

    Ugh, day 6 post taxol and the leg pain is almost unbearable. My knees are so painful that I have to stand up slowly or face buckling. I've sworn off the Vicodin, but have taken Ativan, mostly to relieve my stress about the pain.



    Has anyone had luck with ice or heat to reduce the pain?

  • ladyfighter
    ladyfighter Member Posts: 184
    edited July 2012

    Hi Trailgirl, are you weekly taxol? have you tried vitmain B6? i think that helped with the pains, knock on the wood, havent gotten pains from taxol other than a little muscle ache on my bottom of my back. I am taxol/herceptin #6 day 5, (12 weekly). Hope you are feeling better.

     Everyone else have a great day and hugs 

  • ladyfighter
    ladyfighter Member Posts: 184
    edited July 2012

    I noticed many of you having mood swings, sadness, etc during taxol? I am on effexor (for 7 years), havent felt that way except of course once a while I do cry, but not as bad.

  • ladyfighter
    ladyfighter Member Posts: 184
    edited July 2012

    kltb04, love the cake!! yummy!! how was the movie Ted last night? 

  • lanagraves
    lanagraves Member Posts: 596
    edited July 2012

    Good morning ladies! Final Taxol is kicking my butt - neuropathy and horrific bone pain, but at least it's the last one. I'll definitely be hanging out here, even though I'm finished with chemo. Radiation starts in three weeks, and I'm applying for acceptance into the vaccine trial. So if I'm accepted in that (I think I will be, I meet all the eligibility criteria), I will be making an initial trip + 6 more at 3 week intervals to Washington, DC for inoculations, then 4 trips every 6 months for boosters. Alot of traveling but worth it to me. I have a friend in DC I can stay with so at least I won't have to pay for a hotel room.

    kltb: Cute cupcakes, and adorable kiddos. I've thought about posting some pics on here but I'm too lazy to figure out how.

    TG: Sorry about the Taxol pain. I'm having the same. MO gave me Norco and it seems to be helping.

    ladyfighter: I'm taking Celexa, but it doesn't seem to be helping the mood swings and blah days. However, I suspect that if I was not taking it, I would find that it is helping some and I just didn't realize it.

    shera: Thanks for the list. I'll be hanging on to it too.

    Had an ok weekend. Went to dinner and to see Brave Saturday night with hubby and youngest son. My oldest is in Orlando on a mission trip until Friday, then they are coming back through Fort Walton Beach for a couple of days of R&R after working in the mission camp all week. Chemo pain kicked in Saturday night (during the movie) but I still managed to get to the supermarket yesterday and made six jars of apple pie in a jar and seven jars of dill relish last night. So, thanks to the pain medicine, I had a pretty productive weekend.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited July 2012

    Sorry to hear those finishing Taxol #4 are suffering so much!  For those of you dealing with the neuropathy, I wanted to share something that "I THINK" is working.   After tx #4, my neuropathy got really really bad.  Three and 1/2 weeks out, it is still at about 60% of it's peak and still very annoying (and unacceptable).  I started loading up on Alpha Lipoic Acid, L-Glutamine, and Acetyl L-Carnitine caps (100 mg, 1000 mg, 500 mg respectively), 2 capsules each, morning and night. I have no way of knowing if it really helps (and possibly more in prevention than curative), but on the days I forgot to take, I saw no improvement the next day.  My MO only recommended the Alpha Lipoic Acid, but I read others who had taken the other two for neuropathy.  Seven of my fingertips are numb and my feet are fully involved...still, but they don't keep me up at night or bug me so much when sitting still.

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited July 2012

    Thanks Kam - I was taking L-Glutamine and B6 complex and still having it - I will add the other 2!

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited July 2012

    Thanks for the tip Kam. Will go looking for these things.

    TrailGirl-sorry your in such pain, hope it's better soon

    Everyone hope the SE's are minimal or improve. 

  • Sissydi
    Sissydi Member Posts: 516
    edited July 2012

    Bah, these stupid steroids I get infused with every week are making me gain! I'm up 8 lbs in two weeks....I have 5 more to go! Grrrrrrr!



  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited July 2012
    Sissy...somehow I've managed to lose weight (maybe 6 lbs)  during chemo...partly taking advantage of the anorexia. I notice with my most recent chemo, Carboplatin, unlike A/C and T,  I get zero anoerxia and the scale shot up 5 lbs in a couple of days right after chemo.  Is that the steroids?  Luckily, what works for me is to buckle under, foodwise, during the 2nd half, after the steroids wear off.  The 5 lbs post chemo came right off starting day 6.  On of my surgeons said "most people gain weight on chemo" without really explaining it, other than she said, it's not really explainable......I think I'm more afraid of the hormonals as far as weight gain!
  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited July 2012

    Kam

    I was amazed when the MO said most people gain weight during chemo!  For sure its the steroids and I know for me was eating alot of carbs during TX because it was both bland and comforting.  Lots of chocolate too.  My weight was mabey up around 5 pounds during but strangley I was up 10-12 punds 6 weeks ago and I'm now 10 weeks PFC but getting Herceptin every 3 weeks AND Tamoxifen too.  I thought "oh noooo". 2 weeks ago I weighed in before H and that 10 pounds was gone.  I thnk its a combo of more balanced eating (more protien, less carbs) losing the daily chocolate (it got that bad) and the steroids leaving my system, that things are more under control.  Mind you I could still stand to lose 20 pounds, same as I could have before DX.

    One of the nurses where I'm being treated was telling me how she had to have chemo to combat lupus and she said she gained 25 pounds but has now lost it all.  She said it was the steroids which makes alot of sense.

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited July 2012

    TG - sorry you are still suffering so :(

    ladyfighter - good to hear from you.  Ted was about what you would expect from Seth McFarlane - funny, irreverant, silly.  DH enjoyed it, lol.

    lana - good luck with the vaccine trial - there is a lady on the Triple Positive board who is going to DC for something, wondering if it is the same trial.  I don't see where the Celexa is doing anything great for me either - but maybe without it it would be worse.

    Weight - I am down a solid 8 lbs from when I started but was warned the Taxenes make you gain more - maybe you get more steroids?  One lady at the dr was bemoaning the fact she gained 12 lbs in one cycle! My diet is absolute crap still, just eating what I think I can eat, but I am so picky that maybe that is why I am not gaining.

    Taxotere #2 yesterday and the Benadryl kept me dopey all afternoon and then couldn't sleep last night.  Plus issues with my youngest - she has been having issues at bedtime - they are sleeping wayyyy late in the mornings and then staying up way too late at night but she (A) has for the last week or so been comlplaining a lot/avoiding going to sleep (my stomach hurts, etc..) but last night she broke down and just sobbed for an hour and she won't tell anyone what is wrong.  I think they are both bored and restless but she hasn't done this in a while.  When she was a baby/toddler we had bad issues with crying/screaming fits at night and ruled out all physical issues and chalked it up to night terrors.  I asked her if it was bad dreams and she said no, I asked her if it was ME and she said no. She just keeps saying "I don't know what's wrong" She finally calmed down after I let her lie down with me but I don't want to go down that road again - I just got her out of my bed a few months ago.

    Ok, well Nuelasta today - feeling ok so I am hoping my mom will just come out here so I don't have to do the whole drop the kids off, take her with me, it seems like such an ordeal to do all that to run in for 5 minutes and get a shot.  

  • Alicethecat
    Alicethecat Member Posts: 535
    edited July 2012

    Hi Trailgirl

    My oncologist reduced my Taxotere dose by half, I think, for infusion number two as I had such severe side-effects after infusion number one (back pain, temperature of 38 degrees, low neutrophils again, carted off to hospital, low blood pressure, high heart beat of 122 beats per minute).

    Would it be worth contacting your onc to see if reducing the dose might work for you too?

    I had infusion number two yesterday (Monday July 2) and am only on day two but feeling much better than last time round already.

    Dreading day 5 to day 10,however, but I'll keep you posted when it happens!

    Best wishes

    Alice

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