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  • svans
    svans Member Posts: 32
    edited April 2006
    Hang in there girls, we will survive. thats my song for the day today. I will survive. I am sending angels to all of you to watch over you and to lessen your symptoms, I am praying that we all get a hand in helping us through this and that one day soon this will be a distant horrible memory.

    Sylvie
  • peejay
    peejay Member Posts: 131
    edited April 2006
    Hey Marcia and everyone, thanks for the pick me up, I had really fallen into the basement there. I finally slept for... 4 straight hours last night!!!! WOOOO! I actually dragged my sorry butt out to bowling to get my money since it was prize night, but I didn't bowl. One of my friends there made me this really cute scarf it's dark blue, and has little parrots all over it in different bright colors! And I also had won some extra money for having a high series or something? lol

    Today and this weekend it's the couch and bed for me, and the computer with a heating pad on my back.

    I hope everyone has a good weekend.

    Paula
  • baldeagle
    baldeagle Member Posts: 199
    edited April 2006
    Hi Ladies,

    It's metal mouth here. Actually, the taste stuff isn't quite bad as a few days ago - now it's confined to certain types of food/drink that stimulate it. Otherwise I can manage with a Jolly Rancher.
    I am on day 11 TAC one so I know my hair is about to go. I keep pulling at it - and hoping nothing comes out (which it doesn't). Then I think of cancelling the hair cutting, thinkink that maybe this is all a bad dream and the hair won't go. But then I look at the wig I paid big bucks for and know that it really will happen and I might as well be in charge. Groan.

    Meanwhile my PS took a look at my belly which is still healing from reconstructive surgery and pronounced that it probably wont heal totally before chemo is finished. Now that is a real bummer! He also heard I was geting decadron and went spastic about how bad it was for wound healing and they should be using something else.
    So now I have to talk with the onc about no decadron and try something else. Paula, I know that the no decadron hasn't been the best for you. So it will be interesting to see what the docs come up with now.

    Anyway, never a dull moment. Since I really didn't like the effect of the decadron I can't say I am sorry - but heavens only knows what they will come up with now.

    An ongoing saga. Hope all of you have a good - restfull - weekend.
    Jeannette
  • MarciaA
    MarciaA Member Posts: 178
    edited April 2006
    Jeannette, So sorry about your hair. I have to admit, being bald is a bummer. So many things to remind you about your hair when you don't have it anymore...the showers that don't take as long because you don't have hair to wash and dry, the shampoo commercials that only remind you of not needing shampoo...Looking in the mirror still startles me at times and then I am only reminded that I was diagnosed with bc. I tell my self that if the hair falls out it the chemo must be working.
    I hope they find a solution to healing your belly without decadron. And the metal mouth taste subsides as the days roll on.
    Feel better soon!
    MarciaA.
  • sharoninVA
    sharoninVA Member Posts: 1
    edited April 2006

    I, too, have started the TAC regiment - the T being Taxotere - had my first AC yesterday - feel great - very flushed looking and a low temp but lots of energy. No nausea - so far so good - no neulasta this time - onc wants to see my counts first and how I react

  • kburns
    kburns Member Posts: 37
    edited April 2006
    Hi everyone! Have any of you had a scalp infection from TAC? I just got these blisters all over my head and Dr. said it was folliculitis! (surprised they are not on my face--just my scalp) I'm not sure from what!??! Chemo? My wigs? The hair trying to fall out (I still have a bit of stubble).

    Ughhh...one more thing to deal with. She gave me an antibiotic cream to use and said no wigs--only cotton hats/scarves!

    If anyone knows more about the actual cause, please let me know (I probably should have asked while at the Dr. but just didn't). It really hurts.

    Thanks for letting me vent. Karen
  • MarciaA
    MarciaA Member Posts: 178
    edited May 2006
    Karen, I have those blisters too but I just use antibacterial soap when I shower. Has to be because of the chemo. I have night sweats and hot flashes at night and I can feel my head get sweaty. The worst my head got was after my second chemo. I have a few spots now but not as bad.
    I hope the cream works for you. Take care
    MarciaA.
  • baldeagle
    baldeagle Member Posts: 199
    edited May 2006
    I have read on the boards of the many ways that other women have dealt with losing their hair. Saturday was my turn. It was an amazing experience that I want to share with all of you.

    First, a bit of background. I am not native but have a lot of native (Native American/Aboriginal) friends and several that I am very close to. Native people regard hair as very sacred, respected, and only cut for significant reasons. A woman will cut her hair to mark a major change or turning point in her life. So one of my friends suggested a ceremony to cut my hair before I had no choice over the loss.

    A handfull of us gathered at my house and, the day being remarkably warm and calm, on my porch. It is most often too windy to sit there for long so this in itself was remarkable. The greening fields and Rocky mountains were the background.
    Although we had come casually dressed in slacks, we quickly realized that if this was to be a ceremony, that in traditional manner skits should be worn. So I hauled out some wraps and skirts for everyone. Next we smudged (purified) ourselves with burning sage (a traditional women's purification herb), and smudged the scissors, shaver, cloths, etc. that we would use for the hair cutting.

    We then settled outside and they wrapped a special blanket that had been given to me after my surgery around me to keep me safe and protect me. (Blankets are also special, but that is another story). We sat on another special blanket of mine and had a pipe ceremony to offer our prayers to Creator. That became a very spiritual and very powerful time as we shared stories and two of the native women present shared teachings of womanhood and changing and taking charge of our lives).
    We then moved on to the grand cutting - and head shaving afterwards. It was a gentle way to let go. But my heavens, what a revelation. I actually disliked the colour of the hair that got clipped off - the dye job I had been so proud of!. And then the great unmasking - the roots showed the real colour - which I hadn't seen for many years, and has altered considerably. Well, I am not ready for that yet.

    When all was finished we celebrated with tea and the most incredible array of desert sweets that everyone had brought.
    And I felt good!

    And the following morning In woke up and still felt good about having all my hair off and moving on in my life. To new beginnings and new awarenesses. And being so grateful to have friends who shared this special time.

    Even now, a couple of days later, I feel OK about having my hair shaved off. I have read on the boards of the many ways that other women have dealt with losing their hair. Saturday was my turn. It was an amazing experience that I want to share with all of you.

    First, a bit of background. I am not native but have a lot of native (Native American/Aboriginal) friends and several that I am very close to. Native people regard hair as very sacred, respected, and only cut for significant reasons. A woman will cut her hair to mark a major change or turning point in her life. So one of my friends suggested a ceremony to cut my hair before I had no choice over the loss.

    A handfull of us gathered at my house and, the day being remarkably warm and calm, on my porch. It is most often too windy to sit there for long so this in itself was remarkable. The greening fields and Rocky mountains were the background.
    Although we had come casually dressed in slacks, we quickly realized that if this was to be a ceremony, that in traditional manner skits should be worn. So I hauled out some wraps and skirts for everyone. Next we smudged (purified) ourselves with burning sage (a traditional women's purification herb), and smudged the scissors, shaver, cloths, etc. that we would use for the hair cutting.

    We then settled outside and they wrapped a special blanket that had been given to me after my surgery around me to keep me safe and protect me. (Blankets are also special, but that is another story). We sat on another special blanket of mine and had a pipe ceremony to offer our prayers to Creator. That became a very spiritual and very powerful time as we shared stories and two of the native women present shared teachings of womanhood and changing and taking charge of our lives).
    We then moved on to the grand cutting - and head shaving afterwards. It was a gentle way to let go. But my heavens, what a revelation. I actually disliked the colour of the hair that got clipped off - the dye job I had been so proud of!. And then the great unmasking - the roots showed the real colour - whicc I hadn't seen for many years, and has altered considerably. Well, I am not ready for that yet.

    When all was finished we celebrated with tea and the most incredible array of desert sweets that everyone had brought.
    And I felt good!

    And the following morning I woke up and still felt good about having all my hair off and moving on in my life. To new beginnings and new awarenesses. And being so grateful to have friends who shared this special time.

    I am pleased - and surprised - at my reaction and acceptance of my hair loss. I was not looking forward to it. But now that it is done I am ready to get on with the rest of my healing. Bring on the chemo and let it be done!
  • peejay
    peejay Member Posts: 131
    edited May 2006
    Morning - that's so cool that you were able to have a ceremony like that. I can imagine everyone and everything being so peaceful and such. I'm speechless. I'm glad you have caring friends around you that would do that for you.

    Paula
  • MarciaA
    MarciaA Member Posts: 178
    edited May 2006
    I was particularly interested in the pipe ceremony.It brought to mind how some use medicinal marijuana. I have never smoked but I have to admit there have been times I have thought about it when I am so nauseated from the chemo. I hope the ceremony works to ward off evil Cancer! For sure it was reinforcement of the power of friendship. Thank you for sharing your story.
    MarciaA.
  • MarciaA
    MarciaA Member Posts: 178
    edited May 2006
    Hello TAC Sisters, I am going in for TAC #4 in am (5/3/06) I start the evil decadron pills today. I wanted to share with you something I will be doing different this time. I had posted before that I had a lot of tingling and numbness this last time. It is most likely attributed to the Taxotere. I was put on neurontin (gabapentin)for the pinprick sensations which has helped.Knowing it is cumulative I spoke with my doc and he will be reducing my Taxotere by 15%. He says it can be reduced by as much as 25% without consequence to the TAC schedule. I was afraid I would wind up being unable to cope with any more treatments, I was having numbness in my fingers all of a sudden 4 days ago. SO I am encouraged. I expect to be down and out for the next 8 days but I will hopefully rise again from the near dead and post how it went. Until then I want to send my best wishes to you all. Take Care.
    MarciaA.
  • jpsgirl96
    jpsgirl96 Member Posts: 240
    edited May 2006

    Marcia, Thinking good thoughts for you for #4; I'm off to #3 on Thursday and I also expect to be d&o for a few days (the Neulasta is worse that the chemo so far, except for the cumulative fatigue). I'm glad to hear that they can safely reduce the dose of Taxotere when the se's get bad! Leigh

  • peejay
    peejay Member Posts: 131
    edited May 2006
    So I'm wondering, has anyone lost their eyebrows yet?? I'm coming up on treatment 4, and I looked in the mirror this morning, and noticed the very ends of them were missing! I kind of freaked out a little.. lol They are so short now, I mean length wise. So I was just wondering if anyone elses were going or gone?

    Marcia, Much good vibes heading your way for tomorrow! I know you will be ok.

    Paula
  • MarciaA
    MarciaA Member Posts: 178
    edited May 2006
    Thanks so much Leigh, I hope your TAC #3 goes well this Thursday.Thanks for the well wishes.

    Paula. I still have eyebrows and eye lashes but not as many as I did when I started. My eye brows and eye lashes probably won't be able to survive another chemo blast but I will let you know. Thank you for the good vibes. Let's hope most of the worst is behind us.
    Take Care
    MarciaA.
  • mindyk
    mindyk Member Posts: 87
    edited May 2006
    Hi everyone,
    I finally feel like I am alive again. I had nausea really bad until this evening. (last chemo on 4/25)
    I took emend, compazine, adivan, and zofran and was still sick. The only thing that was different this time is I didn't take the oral decadron. I didn't break out or get swollen ankles either like the last time that I took it. I am just glad that the nausea is over. I hope everyone is doing ok. Evern though I haven't posted lately, I still think of you guys every day. Next treatment is on 5/16.(#3) I hope it goes alot better.

    Take Care!

    Mindy
  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited May 2006

    Marcia and Leigh - I have TAC #3 this Thursday 5/4. I am already stressing out about it. My big 50 is on the 8th and I am hoping that I feel decent by then. i was so looking forward to my birthday till this darn bc diagnosis in February. Like Marcia, I take the Decadron tomorrow and day of chemo. For me no noticable side effects. The Neulasta doesn't bother me too much either. Its the darned TAC that does me in. By the time the Taxotere is done or before, I am absolutely miserable. I have Emend, Kytrel, Ativan, compazine suppositories and Marinole for nausea. After #2 I went for IV hydration for the next 3 days, the first two included kytrel in the IV. I have no appetite for a good 3 days after chemo so eating is hard - besides nothing has any taste!!! I have lost 17# since this diagnosis process and trying not to loose anymore. I still have some hair on top of my head - it fell out day 12 - 18 after my first chemo then stopped. Wonder when the rest will go? I prefer hats to my wig- my hubby likes me in ball caps best. He got me a great pink one. No pit hair or leg hair, pretty skimpy on my arms and my lashes are thinning. Still have eyebrows - dread loosing them - I know I can pencil in eyebrows, but I am not very talented with make-up. Marcia and Leigh, I hope things go well for you with you next treatments. Karen

  • jpsgirl96
    jpsgirl96 Member Posts: 240
    edited May 2006

    Thanks Karen and sorry this TAC thing is so difficult for your tummy! I was also really looking forward to my 50th - I'll be mid-radiation at that point (in August) if all stays on schedule. My husband is 50 this year too, so we are planning a mid-point party, which will be after tx and maybe after I have hair again. Mine is still growing (stubble!) in spots after 2 TAC's, assume it will eventually give up the ghost. Leg hair basically gone, ditto under the arms, eyebrows and lashes hanging in, pubic hair a mixed story, though definitely not growing. I find the wig a necessary evil, for work only - I take it off in the parking garage! - but I get these gushing compliments from people who haven't seen me in a while. It gives me a laugh, usually after they've departed...scarves and hats are fine, I prefer 'just me' at home and in the immediate surroundings. I'll be thinking of you Karen on Thursday, really hoping it's BETTER this time, sending you my (so far) iron stomach vibes. Thanks Marcia. Leigh

  • svans
    svans Member Posts: 32
    edited May 2006
    Hey Paula, my eyebrows thinned out totally and my eye lashes are falling out. I also lost all of the hair you know where and my head is thinning out, havent lost it all yet. I did shave my head hair really short and all I have is a small bald spot on the top and thinning on the sides.

    I am keeping everyone in my thoughts and prayers and am sending out the good vibes for all of us to have strength and whatever else we need to get through this,

    Thank goodness for this board!!

    Sylvie
  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited May 2006
    Hello ladies, I just wanted to say if you can go to the Look Good , feel better classes do so. It is the best fun, and around $300.00 worth of make-up free.

    If you are not really pale , pick the medium case. The colors are very pretty. The brand names are dept store brands. Not wal*mart.

    They also show you a few tricks you can use to look like you have lashes and brows.

    It was just so much fun. I took my wig with me, then put it on later at the end of class. Our class had wigs to pick from too for those who didn't have one.

    We relaxed so much that one lady took off her hat, and another took off her wig. I took off my hat first, but I'm very laid back. I think that is why everyone relaxed.

    I also signed up for the relay for life walk. It was something to feel a part of the sisterhood right here at home.

    Good luck to you all & big (((hugs)))
  • peejay
    peejay Member Posts: 131
    edited May 2006
    jps - my hair is doing the same thing on my head, I keep growing a bit of stubble back! I give up on keeping it shaved now, I figure it will give up soon too. I thought I was the only one with stubborn hair like that LOL

    On the other hand... I haven't had to shave legs or pits for the whole time yay! small thing to be happy about I guess. As for that "other" hair hehehe it's almost gone totally. I'm not good with makeup either, but I'm armed with some eyebrow stencils just in case. I have to looke up one of those classes around here I'm sure it would be fun and I know my sister would go with me.

    Paula
  • jpsgirl96
    jpsgirl96 Member Posts: 240
    edited May 2006
    Paula - I've been shaving mine because it's more comfortable under the wig, but I figure it will give up after #3?? Eyebrows are thinning after only two so that's freaking me out - they will obviously be GONE sooner than I hoped.
    Mary - Thanks for the input about Look Good, Feel Better - free makeup is DEFINITELY an incentive! I wear makeup normally, and I've generally felt well and I actually think I look pretty good, but I don't suppose it gets better from here (4 TAC's to go plus bilateral radiation including the node bed right) so I'll go.
    I'm planning (hoping) to do the Komen National 5K June 3; that will be day 9 of TAC #4, so we'll see if I'm up to it. I've raised $850 so far without much effort, so I guess I'll have to "Sleep in for the Cure" if I'm not.
    Leigh
  • MarciaA
    MarciaA Member Posts: 178
    edited May 2006
    Leigh, bless your heart for raising so much money for the Relay for life. I have only felt like donating this year since my neuropathy had made it hard to participate. I will be thinking of you tomorrow.

    Mindy, so sorry about your nausea. I have Emend, zofran and phenergan. My nausea lasts about 5 -6 days after chemo. Hope you are feeling more yourself in the next few days. You gotta gear up for #3 then you are half way there!

    Karen1956, good to hear from you again. Don't you just hate the decadron but It acts like a diuretic for me and helps with the fluid retention. I took advantage of the hyperness the decadron gives me and worked around the house today to get as much done as I could. My two sons are coming in this week from college for the summer and once again my house will be full of testosterone! I hope the nausea won't be bad for you next time and you can remain hydrated better. In Case I get chemo brain..Have a Happy 50th birthday... I hope you will live to celebrate your 100th cancer free.

    Kburns, Haven't heard from you lately, are you doing ok since you got the antibiotic cream?

    Paula, you are sounding more like yourself, Glad you are doing better.

    Well off to the #4...Take care Ladies, I will be thinking of all of you on the TAC thread..you all know what it is like!
    MarciaA.
  • peejay
    peejay Member Posts: 131
    edited May 2006
    Our thread was getting too low on the page, so this is a shameless bump for it.

    Oh and just to stay on topic, I'm having a much better day today. Went out to the store and did a bit of stuff!

    Paula
  • baldeagle
    baldeagle Member Posts: 199
    edited May 2006
    Well, Let's keep the bump up!
    It's day 16 for me (TAC 1), and as predicted the hairs are tumbling off. Noticed that my legs are geting real smooth and no razor burn. That is a plus. I just have the fuzz left from the hair shave on Saturday. Not gone but getting no longer. Oh well, if it bothers me too much I shall reach for the duct tape.

    meanwhile my onc gave the go ahead for me to truck off to a conference at the end of the month. Fortunately it's at the end of cycle 2 so it will be my best week. And I have something to look forward to besides sitting around and getting too preoccupied with all of this physical stuff.

    I talked with the onc. about the decadron - it is BAD for tummy healing which I am still coping with after my reconstructive surgery (TRAM). So the decadron will be cut in half.
    Am thinking of you with this Paula, and hope that the side effects aren't too bad with the reduction.
    Anyway, let's hear from the rest of the TACers.
    jeannette
  • jpsgirl96
    jpsgirl96 Member Posts: 240
    edited May 2006
    Hi Jeannette and Everyone,
    Had TAC #3 this morning; it went smoothly and I'm okay, feeling the initial less-than-perfect tummy effect but no nausea or other specific trouble. Had lunch out with my chemo buddy, stopped for groceries on the way home, and will go for the Neulasta tomorrow. THAT'S the real joy-killer for me - 24+ hours of aches and exhaustion starting about 12 hours after the shot - but my blood work says it's working well, wbc's are around normal at day 7, high at day 14, and normal again on day 1 of the new cycle. For what it's worth, I do fine with Decadron in the drip only, no fluid retentions and the other nausea meds seem to do their job just fine without pre- and post-Decadron. Thinking good thoughts for everyone - Leigh
  • peejay
    peejay Member Posts: 131
    edited May 2006
    Leigh I hope you continue to do well after your 3rd one! Halfway home baby! When I go for number 4 in two weeks (less actually) I'm going to be taking 4mg of decaron twice a day the day before treatment to see if that stops the horrible leg body aches I had last time. Wonder if it was water related or something? But I never saw any signs of retention.

    Actually I'm anxiously awaiting hearing from Marcia who went thru 4 the other day! Go Marcia Go!!

    Paula
  • jpsgirl96
    jpsgirl96 Member Posts: 240
    edited May 2006

    Paula Stupid question - are you getting Neulasta after TAC? That is what gives me the aches and flu-like exhaustion...but it's doing its job, keeping the wbc where it needs to be, so I put up with it for 24-36 hours. Leigh

  • peejay
    peejay Member Posts: 131
    edited May 2006
    Yes, getting the shot after TAC, same day, and my wbc's have been great. I asked on the John Hopkins board about getting it the same day as treatment, and they said it varies from onc to onc when they do it, so I felt better about it when my new onc told me he does it the same day. Saves me a darn trip too!!

    Paula
  • MollyK
    MollyK Member Posts: 70
    edited May 2006
    Hey guys, Haven't posted recently...I've been trying to get a bunch of things done in my 'good week'. It has been wonderful to feel better. I start Chemo #2 today. Of course it's 4am and I can't sleep. I'm nervous. I took the decadron yesterday 8mg and did okay with it the first chemo round, but noticed some fluid retention this time and I can't believe how emotional I am. Is that one of the side effects of decadron?

    The hair going is much harder to deal with than I thought. My small shaved hairs are coming out quickly and I am almost bald. That "look better, feel better" class is sounding better everyday. I need something to make myself feel better. I bought a 'real hair' wig that I like, but it is hot so I'm not liking to wear it all the time. But it is nice to go in public with it and not have people stare like when I just wear a scarf or hat.

    I need to ask about getting the neulasta shot the same day. My onc wants me to come in 24 hours after. It would definitely be nice to save a trip.

    Glad to hear you guys are doing okay. Thought I would just 'check in'. Wish me luck today with chemo #2.

    Molly
  • kburns
    kburns Member Posts: 37
    edited May 2006
    Hi all. Marcia, thanks for asking about me. I have been really down about this scalp infection. Think of it as chickenpox all over the scalp (at least 100+)! I so dreaded losing my hair but at this point I don't even care at all about that! I would love to be able to just wear a scarf or bandanna without itching and feeling uncomfortable. It is slowly getting better, but still hurts. The real horror is the Dr. said it is POSSIBLE that I could get it after each treatment! I have only found one other person on the boards who has had this (Kathy--KPM) and she also got it after treatment #2 but (luckily) did not get a repeat. I am praying hard.

    Otherwise--I am dealing with the typical stuff--weight gain (I think some of that is stress eating!), lots of fatigue, dry eyes and sinuses, bone pain, insomnia (had to get a prescription for Ambien or else I was up until 1 or 2 every night), anemia (have not gotten shots for that yet, but my numbers have dipped below norm), and just started to notice some tingling in my hands. I have tried to walk and get a little exercise, but seems like I get so out of breath. I am feeling like a real wimp and hear myself complaining a lot when people ask how I am doing. What the heck are we supposed to say so that they understand, but we don't sound like whiners! TAC #3 is next Wed.

    For anyone still dealing with heartburn, my Dr. prescribed Prevacid and it made a world of difference!

    I am so sorry for those of you experiencing the nausea. I swore that I could deal with anything if I didn't have a lot of nausea and vomitting (althought the scalp thing has really pushed my buttons). I am praying for you guys and hope things get better soon.

    I did go to the Look Good Feel Better session and it was GREAT!!!! If you have not been yet, I highly recommend!

    I have been so UP until this week, just having a hard one.

    Best to everyone and take care. Karen

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