June 2012 Mastectomy

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  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited June 2012

    Prayers today

    for MMTOMH, that your nodes are indeed negative as suggested by the ultrasound, and there will be no problems from radiation treatment with TEs in place;

    for jazlaumir that your margins will be clear this time and minimal side effects from your ALND

    for kirwin524 for a smooth surgery and rapid, problem-free recovery.

  • MMTOMH
    MMTOMH Member Posts: 127
    edited June 2012

    Thanks curveball - all checked in and waiting to go back to the pre -op area.

  • NanG
    NanG Member Posts: 180
    edited June 2012

    Anybody hear from 7of9? I hope she's ok....ure in my prayers too girl.

  • sandpiper1
    sandpiper1 Member Posts: 952
    edited June 2012

    I was wondering the same Nan. It's been a long time since she has been here.

    Hope everyone is doing well. 

    Wishing those of you who have had surgery that recovery and healing continues .

    Best wishes and positive thoughts for all who are in surgery today.

    Comforting thoughts for those still waiting for their surgeries/treatments.

    Smile

  • laurab69
    laurab69 Member Posts: 15
    edited June 2012

    Hi Ladies

    I am one wk post op today. Feeling ok fighting the blues i go tom to hopefully get the drains out. All of the posts  are helping alot. I wish everyone well and pray for healing. hugs to everyone.

    Laurab 

  • grateful33
    grateful33 Member Posts: 58
    edited June 2012

    Hello Junebugs

    I am also one week out from BMX with TE's. Don't remember much of the weekend as 'out of it' on Tylenol 3's. Thank you for all your posts and all prayers. One drain out yesterday but large patch of near dead tissue at underside of left TE. PS says if does not heal will need to go back to OR for skin graft! Will find out in a week.

    Sending healing thoughts to all who are recovering and prayers to all awaiting surgery.

    xo

  • NanG
    NanG Member Posts: 180
    edited June 2012

    Greatful33- how can u tell if tissue is dead? Today my skin on left side is green and hard. Maybe bruising but freaky.



    GIRLS....MY DAUGHTER HAS LICE!!! Seriously?! This is quite ridonkulous now thank u very much! She was at the hairdresser today and the stylist was all snotty and said, we cannot treat your child as she has lice. She may as well added a gag reflex sound at the end of her sentence and awaited a swift b****slap from me clear across the face after the way she looked at me! Yeah, I looked messy...my hair was "braided" because I tried to "style" my own hair this am...FAIL! And then before I left to take my girl in I forgot to ask somebody to tidy me up....



    This has been a day of one thing after another.



    So, now I have to try to call my help back in to wash all the bedding and toys, AGAIN! We seriously just did this last month. I think she caught it again from someone else, because our other child doesn't have live, nor did she catch it from the last breakout.



    To add to this, I basically had to defend my knowledge to h husband on how to treat the beds n stuff. I was directing him to put the sheets in the plastic bags, bag up the toys n clothes...etc...and he right then n there wanted to fight and tell me im wrong.



    Rofl. What can u do? I'm still unable to do silly things like change a pillowcase. I can wipe my own bum though. God help me if I ever needed THAT done and he wanted to argue if it was REALLY necessary!!!!



    So, today I'd like to say a big F*** YOU to breast cancer. Another UP YOURS shout out goes out to Satan, the accuser....and a little dash of *hanging my head and shaking it in disbelief* to the snotty hairdresser. Lice is not my fault, but it's now my reaponsiblity...I can do all things in Christ...so...la dee da!

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited June 2012

    NanG, obviously you have that "more than a conqueror" thing down pat! You go, girl!

    (added several hours later) I just re-read your message. I'd be concerned--if any part of my body turned green, I would be on the phone to the doc right away! Maybe it's only bruising, as you suspect, but why not have it checked, just to be safe?

  • planetbananas
    planetbananas Member Posts: 206
    edited June 2012

    NanG, sorry you have to go through all of that!!!! I will second your F***K YOU to breast cancer, all day every day!

    Had oncologist appt today -Found out I was IIb, not IIa.  I was told I was getting FEC 100 and Taxotere, 8 rounds. I get my port on Tuesday, then scans and will start chemo 10 days after that. I don't break down or cry a lot, but I went into the bathroom near where they give chemo and realized I will be sitting in those chairs all the way through Thanksgiving and Christmas and into 2013 and bawled like a baby. At least I can drive and get my drains out on Friday.

    This is such a roller coaster journey....some days are easier than others. Seeing the actual room where I will be getting chemo was very very strange.

    Kirwin524, holding good thoughts for smooth re-excision, good luck to everyone going through surgeries/treatments.

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited June 2012

    When I saw my onc yesterday he told me I might be eligible for the clinical trial investigating the Oncotype DX test for node-positive women. I got an email from him that evening, saying I am definitely a candidate. Now I need to give him a yes or no answer by later today. Decisions, decisions. I'm leaning in favor of it.

  • annievan
    annievan Member Posts: 92
    edited June 2012

    My3sons - I've been thinking of you and all that you've been going through + worried about your ex-husband.  Did they get your infection in check?  How're you feeling these days. . . your description of that 2nd week was understandable, and I can relate even though I'm on the front end of things.  My BMX is less than 2 weeks out and I'm starting to feel scared and sadder than I had been.

    The sad is compounded by some things going on at home.  Do you mind if I ask you something?  You mentioned how supportive your sons have been and it seems they've risen to this and are inspiring you.  I have three sons as well, and I just don't know whether I'm expecting too much - - they NEVER mention my surgery and make it very clear they don't want to hear any details.  It's like this is something I'm going through (with my husband), and they could really give a flip.  The real kicker though is that my oldest son, who has been struggling for several years, ended up dropping out of college and is home now (working, but not doing anything towards pursuing getting his degree and a real career, while all his friend are moving on.. .).  I found him a great counselor, young/positive fellow to whom I thought he could relate, and now I'm finding out that he blames me for whatever bad is going on with him.  We're apparently having a pow-wow at this counselor's office today, so that my son (his brothers if he rallies them) can tell me what a crappy mother I've been.  You know, any other month I prob could have stood this. . . I KNOW the kind of mother I've been. . .quit my career and have been here every step of the way for every need. . . . I just dont' know that I can handle this right now.  My heart is broken.  Forget the stupid breasts - - whatever. . .while that is hard, I feel like I can get through that, but my son(s) rewriting their childhood? Nope.  We have had dthe sweetest famly, and that is all that has mattered to me.  In his time of confusion as he's looking for reasons to blame for his mess, the fact that he's decided to throw barbs at me is killing me. . . especially at this time. 

    I honestly don't feel I can go through with this surgery feeling like what I've meant tothem hasn't mattered.  Do you understand what I'm saying?  Maybe I have thin skin right now, and ordinarily might be ready to hold my own. 

    Sorry to vent anad go on about this.  Just though if you have almost grown sons you might be able to make some sense of it. 

    Hope you continue to be on the mend, and eaxh day is brighter. 

    Thanks for any thouoghts -

    Marianne

  • 7of9
    7of9 Member Posts: 833
    edited June 2012

    NanG...sorry you have to deal with that crap! I hope you recover quickly because relying on other people, even family, well, just plain sucks.

    Sorry I've been off the boards ladies. Prayers for you all and wrap up this month and all of the surgeries....been crazy here on the other side but it's better. Not without my dad of course, but as far as this disease go, it's much much better.

    Strength and courage to us all...

  • MMTOMH
    MMTOMH Member Posts: 127
    edited June 2012

    Hello ladies! I am finally on the other side! My surgery got started really late --2pm--but it went well. They only had to take The CLEAN sentinel node! Praise be to God! Got to my room about 10 and tried to sleep. Up and walking this am and will go home around noon! Thank you for your faithful prayers.

  • planetbananas
    planetbananas Member Posts: 206
    edited June 2012

    Annievan, my son's story is too long to post here, but when I saw your post I just wanted to give you a hug and lift you up. My cancer diagnosis fell right on the heels of having to let go in a lot of ways of the relationship I have with my son. Neither my husband nor I can reconcile the fact that my son (his stepson for the past 18 years) views us and our family the way he does. My son no longer lives at home and now there is very limited contact, all his choice.

    It is so hard to do, but please try to remember that the most important person is YOU. It doesn't feel that way and I know very well what a challenge it is but for the sake of your healing, your husband and the rest of your family hold strong. For me, no heartbreak has been as devastating but my focus now has to be on me and getting well. I know I have some days that are easier to face than others but please know that there are people out there that understand. {{HUGS}}

    @curveball, what  trial is that? Is there a link to some info?

  • my3sunz42
    my3sunz42 Member Posts: 148
    edited June 2012

    Annievan - These sure are life lesson, personal strength training times ... I have to admit there are times when I just want to crawl into my bed, cry and just say to hell with all of this craziness ... if this is what my life is going to be, then I don't want to live it. But then I take a look around and realize there are many reasons why I'm fighting and growing stronger ... beginning with my DH, my sons, my 1st husband & his family, etc... Preparing for my surgery, I was asked to quit a 30 year smoking habit. I was able to pretty much quit (got down to 3 cigs/day), didn't smoke for the 1st 2 weeks after surgery. Then I hit the end of postop week #2 - depression week - and now I'm back to the nicotine habit (hiding it from my entire family ... not good ... I hate lying ... but I don't want to disappoint them) ... UGH. 

    As I was preparing for my surgery date, my emotions were like huge waves in the ocean and would change on a dime. However, I don't think I fully realized that I had cancer until after my surgery ... so the fact that you're recognizing these things is GREAT! You're dealing with the grieving process NOW, rather than later like I did/am. You should reach around and give yourself a pat on the back - that takes courage ... something I hid from leading to my surgery date. I might also tell you ... and I'm sure you've read it many times ... the waiting really is much worse than the surgery/recovery. Your mind has time to wander and read  - esp Dr. Google - he's a very BADDDDDDD Doctor - don't take anything he says as REAL - they are just examples and each of us goes through this process differently - even if we have the same DX.  So regarding the fear, anxiety & sadness you're feeling, I think it's a perfectly normal part of the process ... just don't do it alone ... use your DH, your family and/or your friends. Maybe even a 3rd party person to talk to? I've been giving a councilor some thought for myself ... this is some tough stuff we're dealing with. 

    My sons have been pretty damn awesome during the entire process (fyi, their ages are 18, 16 and 10) ... I think the fact that my 1st husband was diagnosed prior to me has taught them how to deal with all the feelings a little better. I can tell you, when their Dad was 1st diagnosed, they hit the full grieving process (anger, sadness, rebellion, etc.). Given that breast cancer is a 'female' illness, the fact that your boys are a little 'stand off-ish' doesn't surprise me and it sure does sound like you're doing all that you can to guide them (esp your eldest) into making the right choices. Don't be so hard on yourself - you continue to be an awesome mom! You know, given your eldest age, have you given any thought about a heart to heart conversation & telling him how you're feeling and how painful some of his reactions have been for you? If there's one thing I continue to learn ... it's OK for my kids to see me cry every now & then. 

    I had the last of my 2 drains removed on Monday and the infected drain sites have definitely gone down ... so no more "jail" time for me in the near future :-) I've been walking about 3 miles each morning with our golden retriever ... I'm hoping to be back to running within the next 2 weeks ... since I had tissue expanders put in, I need to let them heal a bit longer. I'm also now on a weekly 50cc fill schedule - so by next Monday I'll be up to almost a 1/2 an "A" cup (my original size) - whoot! whoot! We'll see about "B" cups ... I'm OK with small!

    My 1st husband and our son just returned from his dream come true trip (funded by Steve Gleason, former New Orleans Saint & now ALS patient) to Italy. It's so good to see them both again and listen to the amazing stories about their trip ... which included mass given by the Pope, mass at St Peter's, white water rafting, hot air ballooning over Tuscany and meeting extended family for the first time. What a blessing!!!! Again, for those of you looking for a little inspiration, please check out Jim's Journey with ALS: http://jimsjourneywithals.wordpress.com/

    June Bugs ... keep up the fight ... together we are stronger! 

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited June 2012

    Prayers today for GeorgiaRai that the two surgeons will produce the results you are hoping for, and an easy time with your future RT; smooth surgery and recovery for phylmont.

    Prayers for a change of attitude in the families of NanG and annievan, and for continued recovery for those who experienced complications of their surgery.

    Thanksgiving for MMTOMH's clear node.

  • JenH13
    JenH13 Member Posts: 183
    edited June 2012

    MMTOMH- YAY for the clear node!!

    Prayers with those having surgery today.

    Prayers also for all those having troubles with family and loved ones.  I hope they all work out and form a better stronger bond than before.

    Also, thanksgiving praise.. yesterday My dr. said all the reports came back that the cancer is gone!  I am free of this disease!  Still have to do the recovery from the surgery, possible rads to prevent reoccurance, and of course hormone therapy so hopefully I never have to go through this again :)

    Many hugs to everyone! (stay cool in all this heat going through the country!)

    Jen

  • annievan
    annievan Member Posts: 92
    edited June 2012

    Oh my goodness. . . I'm so embarassed, and please let me apologize - - Did not mean to my post last night to the whole group (thought I was sending it as a PM), but it was late and will just have to chalk that up to God had another plan  :) -

    Thanks so much for your sweet thoughts (above) and prayers - I know you are all going through so much, I really apologize for intruding with my whole blob unrelated to this. . .

    Good to hear from you 7 of 9.  Can you tell you've been missed?! 

  • wendy49
    wendy49 Member Posts: 45
    edited June 2012

    Just received final path report.  Can anyone tell me what this means?  I assume I have micromets in one node.  My BS called and now want to do a full AD in two weeks.  I guess they take out the first two fat pads, which obviously, will increase my risk of LE.  On Monday, the tumor review board will also discuss not only the full AD, but radiation after chemo under my arm?  What stage am I?  Stage 1C with micromets or 2A with micromets?  I'm confused with all this other than the fact I need more surgery . . . ugh . . .  What is lymphatic invasion?  I would appreciate all input as now I am freaking out!!!!!  

    FROZEN SECTION REPORT

    ---------------------

    1A-D. Two lymph nodes negative for neoplasm (0/2). (JLM)

    2A-D. Six lymph nodes negative for neoplasm (0/6). (JLM)

    3A. One lymph node negative for neoplasm (0/1). (JLM)

    I, Jeffrey Myers, M.D., have reviewed and interpreted the frozen section

    material at the time it was requested.

    Permanent section confirms frozen section report on parts 1A and B, 2A-D and

    3.

    Permanent sectons reveal micrometastic carcinoma within the lymph node from

    blocks 1C and D. These micrometastatic foci are not appreciated on the frozen

    section slides (sampling error).

     

     

    ASM:ASK   06/27/12

    MICROSCOPIC:

         INVASIVE BREAST CARCINOMA (including microinvasive CA <0.1 cm) - WHAT DOES THIS MEAN???

         ================================================================

    Type of carcinoma:  Ductal

    Greatest microscopic dimension of invasive carcinoma:  1.8 cm (upper outer

      quadrant), 1.0 cm (lower outer quadrant)

    Involvement of surgical margin:  Negative

    Histopathological grade (Bloom-Richardson):  3

    Angiolymphatic invasion:  No

    Extensive DCIS:  No

      DCIS > 25% of tumor:  No

      Extratumoral DCIS:  No

    Microcalcifications:  Within invasive/DCIS

    Nipple Status:  Unremarkable

    Hormonal receptors:     ER: Negative

                            PR: Negative

                            HER-2/neu overexpression:  Negative

    Hormonal receptors/HER-2/neu done previously (for both tumors).

      See report for accession number:  BE-12-36148

    Positive sentinel lymph nodes/total sentinel lymph nodes:  1/6

      Size of largest metastatic focus in sentinel lymph node:  0.07 cm

    Positive lymph nodes/total lymph nodes:  1/7

      Highest axillary node positive:  N/A

      Extranodal extension (in any node):  N/A

    pT1c(m)  N1mi  MX - WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

     

    MICROSCOPIC DIAGNOSIS:

    1. Left axillary sentinel lymph node cluster 1, excision: Micrometastatic

    carcinoma (two foci, 0.05 and 0.07 cm) in 1 of 2 sentinel lymph nodes (1/2).

    2. Left axillary sentinel lymph node cluster 2, dissection: Four lymph nodes,

    negative for metastatic carcinoma (0/4).

    3. Left intramammary non-sentinel lymph node, excision: One lymph node,

    negative for malignancy (0/1).

    4-8. Left breast, mastectomy and additional superior, inferior, posterior and

    anterior margin, resection: Multifocal invasive ductal carcinoma (two foci,

    upper outer quadrant - 1.8 cm and lower outer quadrant - 1.0 cm), modified

    Bloom-Richardson grade 3. High nuclear grade ductal carcinoma in-situ with

    microcalcifications. Final margins negative. 

  • jazlaumir
    jazlaumir Member Posts: 91
    edited June 2012

    hello everyone,

    lovemysamoyeds: sorry to hear about the results of your path report, I am also awaiting mine.  I unfortunately can't help interpret these results but I just had the ALND done yesterday along with the mastectomy.

    been kinda groggy these past couple of days and gonna try to catch up to the posts but wanted to let everyone know that the surgery went well, just nervously waiting for the results of my final path as well.

    Sorry that things aren't going well at home NanG and Annievan..

    Thank you all for the well wishes and prayers

  • cjanet
    cjanet Member Posts: 328
    edited June 2012

    Hi again,

    Had my drains out yesterday and felt crappy and depressed all day yesterday.   I felt a lot better today and played outside a lot with my daughter and neighbors while my ILs cooked and watched my newborn son.

    I can't respond to everyone because I just don't know all of you well enough yet!  

    I think my nipples are kind of gross esp the right one (no cancer in that breast) which bleeds every time it's washed or dressing changed.  And I do have sensation- the sense of some pain in the nipples.  I thought I would be completely numb???? 

    lovemysamoyeds:  I too have micromets in my sentinel lymph nodes.  Breast surgeon decided against more surgery but I am getting another round of chemo as well as 6 weeks of radiation, likely under the arm at the lymph nodes as well.  The positive lymph node means a higher chance of recurrence, at least that's my understanding of it.  My oncologist hinted that it's a worse prognosis to have a positive lymph node. 

  • taismommy
    taismommy Member Posts: 31
    edited June 2012

    Junebugs!!!

    Im finally able to type some, smh. My surgery went well, my doc removed 3 nodes that are concerning to her, I have to wait until July 10 for results. I am so pissed because i need answers and every turn i get more  questions. I also have a very swollen right arm which is really a pain and not cooperating when i need to move it. I have to look for a lymph sleeve.

    ALso had 2 out of 4 drains removed yesterday. HURT LIKT HELL!!

    I hope all the other Junebugs are recovering well.

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited June 2012

    @lovemysamoyeds, invasive breast carcinoma=breast cancer. I am pretty sure "microinvasive CA <0.1cm" refers to the sentinel node mentioned in #1 under "microscopic diagnosis", and the amount of cancer found is <0.1 cm (Microscopic results say one was 0.07 cm and one was 0.05 cm across).

    T, N and M are three characteristics of your diagnosis. T stands for tumor, N for nodes, and M for metastases. Put together they describe what stage you are at, and your doctor can give you more detailed information about the meaning of the letters and numbers that come after the T, N & M. I don't know what the small p at the beginning of that line refers to.

    Hope that helps.

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited June 2012

    @planetbananas, it is the RXSponder trial. I decided to participate and went in to sign the consent form today. Dr F. (my oncologist) says it can can take up to two weeks to get the results of the Oncotype test. I'll report back when I find out my score.

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited June 2012

    cjanet, I have one positive sentinel node with 1 mm of cancer. No radiation for me, chemo maybe. My oncotype score has to be less than 25 to continue with the clinical trial. If it's higher than that I am out and (I assume) will definitely get chemo. If it is lower, I get randomized between chemo + hormone treatment and hormone treatment only....unless I wimp out. Dr F. showed me some data on a website called Adjuvant!online, about recurrence rates in hormone positive, HER2 negative patients with one positive node, chemo+tamoxifen vs tamoxifen alone. I don't have the printout in front of me here at the computer, but there was a noticeable difference between chemo and tamoxifen only. However, I don't think Adjuvant!online separates the groups by Oncotype scores. I found abstracts of some studies at the OncotypeDX website that showed no benefit to chemo if the score is low, but it was a different regimen than Dr. F would suggest if I end up in the chemo group or score >25.

    I got my drain out today too, finally after three weeks and one day!

  • NanG
    NanG Member Posts: 180
    edited June 2012

    Things at home aren't so bad actually. I think it's just that ALL my relationships have suddenly become more pronounced for what they actually are. Friends who love me are showing up to help, friends who I thought were going to be here are totally avoiding me. And I assumed this journey would make my dh more romantic like in Bollywood movies where the boy and girl are forbidden to be together, but alas, the reality is he can only travel so far down the road of romance before he gets carsick.



    That path report up there is intimidating with all the technical terms! Wish I could help u too!



    7of9 it's good to hear from u!! Still praying for u in this time.



    On a positive note....I woke up this am, after a full nights sleep and made a pot of coffee all by myself!



    Tmi...tried sex...FAIL.



    Interesting note...made Kraft dinner for my kids yesterday and it wiped me out for the rest of the day!!!!!! Seriously?! Yes, I also sneezed. It went something like this. "ahhh-choooo! *grabs foobs* AHHHHHHHHHHWWWWWWWCCCCCHHHHHH! Ohhh God...." the oh God part I think was actually a little prayer to the Lord to help me endure the sneeze from this day forward....

  • NanG
    NanG Member Posts: 180
    edited June 2012

    Taismommy- good to see u. Why did ure drains hurt? I have to wait for my path too until july 6! So unfair right?! But I called the office to ask why, and the secretary looked it up for me to see if she could tell me SOMETHING on the phone and she let me know that two of the pathologists have left the cancer center to work elsewhere, plus they are on a rotating vacay schedule it being June/July so everyone's results are taking three weeks. We can wait together k?

  • loriio
    loriio Member Posts: 247
    edited June 2012

    Hi all. Made it home last night. I had a bad reaction to the anesthesia and spent most of Wednesday throwing up. Finally I was able to hold down a little food yesterday. They wanted to keep me another night but I really wanted to come home. My friend brought over chicken and dumplings and I ate a while bowl without feeling sick. Slept great but did a little too much this morning and got woozy do now I'm back in bed. Luckily my mom is here to do thigs for me. I wont get my path report to next Thursday. Continued healing to all of you.

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited June 2012

    prayers today--smooth surgery and TE placement for tbc1222.

  • wendy49
    wendy49 Member Posts: 45
    edited June 2012

    Hope everyone is healing and feeling decent.  This "micromet" in my SNB threw me for a loop.  I was up all night researching/reading the NEJM and various Journals and now understand why they do the full axill dissection if you have "micromets."  This is fairly new, probably since 2008 they have adopted this standard.  

    For those of you that had the SNB and then had to have the axill dissection or had to go back just for the dissection, can you tell me what the level of pain you had and if you had any problems with LE?  Anyone joining me from the June to July surgery board?

    I was feeling so good until that "micro" path report came in yesterday.  Now, I don't want to leave my room and have done nothing but cry. 

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