Plane trip, high altitude destination, and panic about LE!
I apologize, as I could probably find most of this info as a search, but very short on time. Long story short, I am flying Thursday for the first time since LE started, compression sleeve ordered by local med supply co has not arrived yet, freaking out.
The people at the med supply store also told me I must sit in a window seat(?!) and elevate my arm throughout the entire trip. I am also concerned about the fact that I am traveling from sea level to 7K feet...
Ideas? Thoughts? Advice? Thank you!
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BlueCowgirl: Don't panic. That won't help. Have you been wrapping while waiting on sleeve? If so, you may want to fly wrapped. I don't know why a window seat. Someone else may know. I would want my affected arm where you can pump it frequently. Drink a lot of water. Take deep cleansing breaths. Even do a little MLD or the neck exercises if possible. I am sure Binney or Kira or someone else will come along and give you some good advice. Becky
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BlueCowgirl- I too was so nervous especially not knowing that the BS took out 24 lymphnodes and lied about it. I had surgery in Feb. and took my first trip in April. My first trip was only 4 hours and I wore the sleeve and stayed away from high sodium for the trip. I even completely gave up tomato juice. No problem whatsoever. In May I flew to Europe and took off my sleeve halfway through the trip because it was so hot and miserable. I massaged my arm and fingers and again avoided sodium. Drank some water but truthfully drank my diet soda more. No problems again. On the ride home , a 12 hour flight, I totally did not wear the sleeve. I again massaged my arms and moved them alot but did not feel like wearing the hot sleeve. No problems. I accidently totally forgot last dr appt to mention it and before I knew it the lab tech had stuck my right arm for blood work. I totally freaked but I had some swelling that went down within the week. Dr says exercising is the best thing I can do and maintaining my weight. Try to enjoy your trip. We deserve some fun.
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I got a sleeve for flying. My LE therapist who prescribed it (I don't yet have LE) told me to wear it for as many hours before and after the flight as the flight is long. For a trip to Europe, I wore it for 10 hours prior to flight time, through the flight, and for 10 hours after. It does get hot (thank you, hot flashes), and by the end, that area between thumb and forefinger was really sore. But no problems.
I can't speak for the window seat (?!?) or the arm raising, but regularly massaging it is what we're supposed to do all the time, so it can't hurt.
Just a friendly reminder: having had surgery (many of us MX), you are at increased risk for blood clot, so be sure to get up and move around.
Have a great trip!
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Blue...Becky gave good advice: drink water, deep breaths and MLD/fist pumps while flying...if you are wrapped currently, I would continue to wrap for the flight.
I just came back from a summer camp experience at 7,400 ft elevation and no a/c...just fans
with the average day time temp in the 90's. I wrapped for the long bus ride there, wore sleeves durning the day, pumped and wore night sleeves at night. My LE was well under control until I decided to go kayaking with my DD...Fluids are going to be KEY at that elevation to avoid elevation sickness so please drink a lot of water, also make sure to get in some electrolytes as well.
Good luck and enjoy your trip!
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Bluecowgirl, how wonderful that you'll be getting away for a bit!
And a high altitude will be summer-time comfortable too (unless it's Colorado at the moment
--hope they get on top of those fires real quick!)I think Becky and o2b have covered everything. Flying wrapped is the gold standard. Explaining it to the TSA people can take a little extra time, so give yourself wiggle room. Some women find it easier to wrap after they get through security. Staying well-hydrated can be a trick--maybe tell the flight attendants as you board that you have a medical condition that requires you to stay well hydrated, so they can keep you supplied. (Side benefit of that is that you end up having to use the bathroom, so you get to stretch your legs
.) Be careful about lugging, lifting, and jerking your luggage around, not only on the trip but at home packing as well. Take an extra set of bandages (in your carry-on so they don't get lost) so you can wrap as needed.So many women here have been battling cellulitis this summer, some while on vacation. You might ask any one of the doctors on your team to give you a prescription for an oral antibiotic (filled and carried with you), so if you have problems you can start it right away. If you do that make sure you understand your doctor's instructions for when to start them and how to contact him if you do.
It's a bummer to have to make so many plans around this stupid condition, but doing the preliminary work up front gives you the freedom to relax and enjoy the trip.
Bon voyage! Let us know how it goes,
Binney -
Thanks so much for all the advice - you have addressed so many of my fears. The blood clot thing really freaks me out as I have already had a stroke. But at least I am less worried about the LE thing - thank you! I have *no* idea how to wrap my arm however, sure I can find that on here, but man, when it rains it pours - so much going on and no time to go to PT before I leave. Blah.
I only wish this were a vacation - I am going back for a court trial (MVA from 6 years ago where a reckless driver broke my neck), to sell everything I own, and prepare my dream farm for sale because I can't do my job any more. Hard to be excited about any of this. Bad case of feeling sorry for myself, I know, and need to snap out of it... -
Wow, BlueCowgirl -- no wonder you're "blue"!
And then to add LE worries to it... Nope, can't learn to wrap before you go. Much too complicated to learn without good help from your therapist. Sooooo...change of plans!
Get yourself to a sports store (or Target) and get a long-sleeved UnderArmour-type sportshirt in a size smaller than you'd normally wear. Turn it inside out so the stupid seams don't aggravate your skin. (There are some that are made of a moisture-wicking fabric so you don't end up soaked with sweat--good thing is that planes are often cool!) Then call around and find somebody who carries Isotoner therapeutic gloves and pick up a pair for the trip. Use for the plane and as needed once you get there.You'll still need to stay well hydrated, stretch and exercise your arms gently and frequently, be super-careful about tugging your baggage around, do some deep abdominal breathing as often as you think of it, and elevate your arm supported whenever you can (on pillows at night).
If you're prepariing your farm for sale you're going to have to be careful about straining your arm. Rest it the minute it gets achy or tired, even if it's inconvenient. And you really do want to have that prescription filled and along with you.
I'm so sorry for all the loss and pain, and you'll certainly be on my mind in the days ahead. Please keep us posted as you're able, and tell us how we can help.
Gentle hugs,
Binney -
Thank you so much for your advice and kind thoughts, Binney. I just found out that the sleeve *may* arrive tomorrow (gauntlet already there waiting for me to pick up) but great to have Plan B ready just in case. Much appreciated.
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BlueCowgirl, when you get them, check them carefully for good fit. Here's information about that:
http://www.stepup-speakout.org/proper_fitting_of_lymphedema_garments.htmWear them for an hour or so and see how your arm reacts. If all's well, try it for a bit longer. Keep checking for redness (commonly in the elbow bend or between thumb and first finger) or for aching or new swelling, and don't wear them if anything like that appears.
Hoping they arrive tomorrow, early, and fit like a dream!

Binney -
BlueCowGirl, I fly quite often for work, and in addition to the great advice you've received here, I can tell you that I learned the hard way not to pile up LE risk factors on a flight day. In other words, things I know cause my LE to act up, I try to avoid on flight days. For example, early on, I was feeling tight and very cranky after a cross-country flying day, and the first thing I did on checking into a hotel room was do a fabulous cardio DVD in my room, for one hour. Only it did not feel so fabulous a few hours later when my arm and truncal LE tingled, then ached, then swelled up. So now I know better--walking, even speedy walking, no problem, but when I did all the cardio arm work, all the repetitive motion was just plain overload on a day when I had already put my arm through a lot.
As you're new at LE, you may not have figured out so much cause and effect, but the suggestions here are a great place to start--low sodium diet, stay super hydrated, do deep breathing, fist pumps up in the air--as straight as you can extend that arm (which is why window seat makes zero sense...aisle works better for this), and do not give a whit about who might be wondering why you are putting your hand up so often!
Also, heed Binney's suggestion to be careful about hefting luggage. Use a rolling bag; check bigger bags, and find help to get the bags in/out of car trunk, in/out of trunk again at airport; up onto scale, you get my drift. One LE therapist made a speech once that someone here posted a link to, and she made some interesting points: we do so many activities un-ergonomically while we travel (carrying purse and carry-on bag on the same shoulder while the other hand holds the book and a bag of snacks...just for starters). That sets us up for trouble without even thinking about cabin pressure. So...be mindful, be thoughtful about how you pick up and move items, and just try to baby that arm if you can.
And...take all the hugs you can get. Stress is not helpful for LE, and you've got buckets of it, no--boatloads. Best wishes for making it through the rotten events ahead of you, and do let us know how you fare with your LE.
Carol
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It is not the altitude of a place , it is the plane pressure when flying, it is a good idea to wear the sleeve. This was explained by my surgeon.
I travel often to a city in the Andes mountains , it is a long flight 14 to 16 hours, I wear my sleeve, but in the city that is 12.000 feet high, I do not wear one.
I have not had any problem , lucky me, with lymph edema, I had 18 lymph nodes removed 20 years ago.
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All the suggestions here are wonderful. I took my first plane trip this past week and have just one thing to add. If I fly alone again, I will check my bags. I had a rolling bag and a backpack and it was still hard for me. I would switch off between my LE arm and my at risk arm, but both ended up getting very tired. Besides that, while trying to manuever in the bathroom with all that stuff, I tripped and went down. I don't think I would have fallen if I was just carrying a small bag with my essentials (meds, wraps, water).
My husband works for TSA and I was going to wrap for the trip home if I experienced any additional swelling on my outbound flight. He says (although he probably won't be at YOUR airport) that they should not give me a hard time about the wraps, but they might need to a different screening and as was mentioned earlier, could take additional time....
I'm sorry for all you are going through right now. Hugs.
Oh yeah, one more thing that is not related to LE.... I have implants and was FREAKING out when my foobs started crackling and gurggling about five hours after landing in Denver. It lasted for three or four days. Apparently it happens sometimes right after surgery or after going to a higher altitude. If I had known that, I would not have been concerned.
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Thank you all again, SO much. I have spoken with the airlines and will be getting an aisle seat in the first row where I can stretch my legs (YAY!) and will also have assistance with carry-on and when I have to change planes. I fall sometimes even when not pulling a suitcase (stroke thing) and I am not taking any chances! Thank you, thank you, thank you wonderful sisters here. You have helped make a really stressful experience far less stressful and I truly appreciate it.
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Just a totally off-topic thought, but you seem to be fond of animals, yes? A big, friendly lab or labradoodle might be a great addition to the family once you get back home and settled. They can be trained (if you have the time and patience, you can train them yourself) to support you with a special harness and keep you from falling, and once trained you can take them with you everywhere. They're called "mobility dogs," and they qualify under federal service dog laws, so they go shopping with you, on planes, trains and buses, to doctors' offices--everywhere. Excellent protection from falls and sheer comfort to have beside you always. PM me if you'd like more info.
Hugs, and safe travels!
Binney -
One more suggestion for you! I have not been trained to wrap so I wear my Jovi quilted night sleeve (aka the ovenmitt) with the black power sleeve (more compression) while flying.
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Well, this just sucks. Hoping there is an expert here to advise me who is still awake...They did have the sleeve and gauntlet today, but the only gauntlet in my size had a little run in it. Fitter told me "wear it, it's better than nothing" and they will order one for me to have for return trip. Does this sound insane?
But the real problem is, I am doing a "trial run" right now, and my arm is sore and achy after wearing the sleeve for only about 10 minutes. How tight is it supposed to be? Fitter told me it's not supposed to be comfortable, but re-reading Binney's link above, I am thinking that's just not right(?)
Do I wear it or not?
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NO! Your therapist is right that compression garments aren't exactly comfortable, but they shouldn't hurt. Achy and sore isn't right, especially not after 10 minutes. If you've got a sportshirt, wear it, and go with the deep breathing, staying well hydrated, and gently stretching and moving your arm often. If you have trouble once you get there, elevate as much as possible, and look into a smaller long-sleeved sport shirt worn inside out (so the seams won't irritate). Even if things get out of hand, working with your therapist once you're back home will get it back in control.
Do the best you can, and then try not to stress over it. All you can do it what you can do.
If you'll have access to a computer do come tell us if we can help!Gentle hugs, and safe travels,
Binney -
Thank you again, Binney. Hydrating as we speak. I did wear it for a whole hour, and no appreciable new swelling, nor is it sore now...Perhaps I am overly sensitive? I am obviously overanalyzing this. Ugh. But yes, all I can do is what I can do. Thanks for the reminder, and my best to all of you.
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Binney, you are one amazing woman. I learned so much from you and Kira. My hearty thanks to all of you here, I hope all the wonderful advice will keep us in good shape for a long time.
I will say, I freaked the first few times I wore my sleeve. Seemed like my fingers were engorged, and I was freaking out. They do stretch with a few uses. I use my ring as measurement, hardly scientific, but it does help me gauge what's going on during flight. I also know that rings are not advised for those with active LE, or at least I think so.
Another piece of advice--don't eat the airplane food. It is very high sodium, and can also aggravate your LE or risk of developing it.
BlueCowgirl, my heart goes out to you. It is so unfair what many of us are asked to take on all at the same time, and I hope karmic retribution is yours soon!
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Thank you LtotheK, and yes, Binney is amazing! The few times I have needed to venture over here, I have found such compassion, kindness, and knowledge, and I need to thank you all once more. Or maybe twice. Thank you, Binney. Thank you, all.
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Hello friends,
Sorry that I never gave an update on this topic! My trip was fine and my arm was no worse for the wear. Thanks again for all of your advice and support.
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Wow, how freeing that is! Thanks for sharing the good news.

Be well,
Binney
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