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  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited June 2012

    Steve - Billiemae is lucky to have you.  What a great guy you are!  My husband has also been very supportive through this entire strugle, but I think it's wearing on him.  My recent hair loss has been hard on both of us.  I've encouraged him to get on these boards or start one for our significant others, as I've found a tremendous amount of support here.  Unfortunately, he won't do t.  You are doing the right thing - supporting Billiemae and finding support for yourself!

  • DorisMarie
    DorisMarie Member Posts: 129
    edited June 2012

    Hi..on the hair thing..decided not to buzz cut..mainly cause of fallout all over..thought it would be easier to clean up longer hairs than the stubles...I keep a short haircut anyway..I would go outside and have a grooming party..LOL..had a head full of hair..I was shocked at how much flew away in the wind..LOL..hoping some nesting birds can use it ..some good might as well come from it right? after a couple of days..fall out slowed down..big time..right now I have "some" left..enuf that if anyone didn't know me..it just looks old lady thin..LOL..and all the darker hair fell out..I'm left with snow white...had salt and pepper grey before..next tx is in the morn..so we shall see if this wee bit will survive...guess this proves the white hair is slower growing??

    ellebee.."with every strand of hair, a cell has died. BUT, with every strand of hair AT LEAST one cancer cell has died too! "....I like that...thanks...

    pam..good luck on keeping port..I think they gave me the huge industrial size one..LOL...is in the way every time I move..I'm not big breasted but have to wear sports bra 24/7 to support and keep from pulling that port down..

    steve..welcome..kudo's to you...

    I had lots more to say..but well..ya know..I blame e'thing on chemo brain now..LOL..

    thing of all of you..best wishes..Doris

  • steve-billiemae
    steve-billiemae Member Posts: 33
    edited June 2012

    Thank You Everyone!!!,

        I am so glad that I found this blog! I found it very theraputic to use this as a sound board...and all of your replies are simply amazing!! I read my posting to Billiemae shortly after placing it and some of your responses, and we teared up together. The good news is that we are finally back at home. Even better then that to me is that the pic-line is as of yet not being redone. I didn't like it from day one! Infact she thought I was mad at her when I reacted to it...nothing could be further from the truth! The way they are designed is nothing short of midevil in appearance and by my opinion unsafe for a household with a small pet( We have a Chihuahua that loves his mama!). I found it hard to keep dry for showers as well until we got good with aqua-guards. As a plus I plan to redesign the butterfly clips used to hold the lines so they are able to house the ports in a more user friendly manor. I don't want another cancer patient to have to suffer thru the use of a pic-line. Billiemae is being scheduled for a medi-port before her next treatment. Thank God!!!

      Mom24boyzs...My advise is to embrace the change. Billiemae cried getting her hair sytled short, we heard something about the weight and keep it longer; what a crock when it's time it's time! It was an honor and a privalage to be the one to shave her head for her last night! And she is as stunning as always!!! It will grow back and with Gods blessing the cancer will not!!!

      Thank you for being here everyone,

          Steve and Billiemae 

  • maa764
    maa764 Member Posts: 55
    edited June 2012

    I wanted to report back - I was feeling horrible, lost 12 lbs could not eat anything drink a little water and that was about it.  I asked the dr for something else they decided to try ativan and it works wonders - not only am I calm (a little high strung normally) but my stomach feels great and I can EAT. and boy have I been eating good stuff at least now I have an appettite. 

    Today my hair started coming out in handfuls but only if I touch it so I tried to stop doing that until I can get to my hairdresser for my buzz cut. 

    I want to thank you all for you support and suggestions.  I know it feels great helping others when you have been through the same thing.  Take care.  Michelle

  • pamelahope
    pamelahope Member Posts: 534
    edited June 2012

    Ellebee, Women are shaving their head too in support too! Incredible! That is beautiful about your friends now husband. It shows you if someone love you, they really don't care. I want to go back to the restaurant today! I like welcoming the opportunity to meet a new person who has a story to share!

    Melrose, Melrose, you are very sweet. We have a great board. I can tell if we all lived closer we would all be helping one another and having fun while we fight breast cancer too. On our good chemo days.

    Steelersluv, are you BRACA positive too? I hope your tests are okay. If you are 2 I have done tons of research.

  • Kimmie0247
    Kimmie0247 Member Posts: 38
    edited June 2012

    First chemo treatment yesterday. My onc let me know she did not believe in numbing the skin before sticking my port. Mistake number 1 on her part. She sent me into a all out panic attack!!



    I had a wonderful nurse who numbed my skin with ice before she stuck me. She also had a lunch waiting on me and ordered my meds from the pharmacy across the street and had them delivered to me in my chemo chair - Awesome!! I was fine when I walked out just kinda sleepy.

    This morning I'm good except for acid reflux. I took Prilosec to combat it. I'm drinking lots of water and will get my Neulesta shot at 430pm. I have decided to take a Claritan about 2hrs prior as a preventive for bone pain

  • StephanieJM
    StephanieJM Member Posts: 78
    edited June 2012

    Good Morning Friends!

    Good to see everyone up and posting.  We are off in a few minutes for Portland, 100 miles each way.... long day.  I am wearing my Nike baseball cap   "Just Do It", I accidentially found it back in the closet..... is that cool!!!  Forgot I even had it.   Just perfect for my chemo days and I plan to wear it each time. 

    God bless your day!!   Love to you all,  Stephanie

  • Ellendou
    Ellendou Member Posts: 139
    edited June 2012

    Good Morning - having another crying day, sure wish these darn tears would stop.  Hubby left this morning back to work (he works away from home) so I am alone again and just have to pull myself together.  I am still feeling achy all over and my knees are hurting, any suggestions for the knee pain?

    I'm feeling like a big baby, as there are so many others that are worse off than me.

    Hugs to you all that you have a good day. 

  • havingfaith
    havingfaith Member Posts: 93
    edited June 2012

    Steve- Glad to hear that Billiemae is back home. That must feel great!

    Mom24boyzs- I too am struggling with my hair loss.  I was fine with the buzz cut but now about 80% of it is gone in patches.  The one thing I'm looking forward to with it falling out is that maybe it wont hurt so much.  It feels like I've been stuck by porcupines.lol

    Ellen- I know what you mean about the crying.  They say to watch funny movies during all of this, but I find it more therapeutic to watch a sad move and let it all out, plus it does show us that there are other circumstances that are harder.  I say dont fight it, Cry and then have a good nap.

    I have so much more I would like to say, Everyone is so dear to me, but I too have chemo fog and am very tired.  Need to go to work today.

    Everyone big (((HUGS))) Have a Great Day!!!

  • ElleBee
    ElleBee Member Posts: 162
    edited June 2012

    Stephanie - That drive sounds terrible! Sheesh. I have been taking for granted that I live so close to good docs and hospitals. But at least it's some quality time with your chemo partner. I've rather begun to look forward to my Monday dates with the hubs. Our lives are ordinarily so hectic that the few hours a week to discuss the kids, make plans, get on the same page, has been great.

    Ellendou - sorry you are having a hard day, love. Are you doing neulasta shots? If so, are you taking claritin to combat the bone pain? It's supposed to lessen it considerably. Call your onco's office and talk to a nurse about it. You shouldn't have to suffer in pain on top of everything else. Something that always hlps me when in the dumps is just to do the opposite of whatever the sorrow is making me do. So if I feel like lying in bed crying all day, I do the opposite. I get up, get showered, treat myself to something (like going to see a matinee ALL BY MYSELF with smuggled sushi in my purse) Then I will actually schedule a cry for later. Like, I will allow myself to cry at 5, and then I have to enjoy the day. Point is, take care of yourself and don't feed the beast by succumbing to the sorrow. Fight the beast. Cancer doesn't get to rob you of your life and the way you want to live it. Let us know how you are feeling. I'll be sending you positive energy and warm thoughts!

    Kimmie: glad to hear your side effects are manageable so far. Yeah, I forgot my numbing cream yesterday...um, not real pleasant. So I empathise completely.

    Maa764: glad to hear that you are able to eat again. Ativan, really? That's a surprise, but whatever works!

    So today has been pretty horrible for me, but not from my cancer. Back in April, my cat ingested some plastic easter grass, and it caused him to be pretty sick for a few days. Vet said he seemes fine though since he continued to eat and drink and pass stools, etc. They gave him some prescription wet food to encourage his eating, and he passed the grass. So he got better. But over the month of May (when all the cancer stuff was blowing up) we noticed he was being really finicky with his food. And he seemed skinnier. I thought maybe he prefered that fatty wet food. He ate the heck out of the new wet food for a couple weeks. We were on vacation for 9 days and the neighbor who was watching him said he barely ate or used his box. And he seemed alarmingly skinny. I tried to get him to eat, and he didn't. I was hoping he was just depressed and he would get better now that we're home. Took him to vet today. He has lost 4 lbs since April, 1/3 of his body weight. He also had a tumor in his abdomen. Guess what she  and her colleagues suspected? Cancer. Or possibly an adrenal tumor causing kidney failure. My husband and I are not willing to allow him to suffer, and she said that even with surgery his prognosis would not be good. Merely buying him time. 

    So all by myself, a day after treatment, I am sobbing at the vet while I watch my first baby slip out of my life. We brought him home so the kids could see him, and buried him in the backyard. We marked his grave with a couple rocks that the kids will decorate later. 

    Rough day. But I will play with the kids later in the pool, and take my daughter to her guitar lesson, and do my best to enjoy this beautiful day. But I miss my little fella terribly already.

  • steve-billiemae
    steve-billiemae Member Posts: 33
    edited June 2012

    hi everybody hope you are having a blessed day,  today is a good day for me...im out of hospital & moving w/out pain except where one of the many ivs were...lol   somedays the tears just flow for now reason~just let em flow wash your face afterwards ....lol   i decided not to fight with my hair...i cut it short~still came out so we spiked it at the hospital~hair still everywhere...every pca came in & changed my bed covers for me & i didnt want to change sheets 3 or 4 times a day so i let steve shave my head...its flippin groovy!!!  some strange looks but im sporting it well...i usually wear diamond studs but i plan on getting a couple pair of danglely ear rings & run bald...its tooo hot hear in texas...have a groovy day all 

        love to all, billiemae 

  • steelersluver
    steelersluver Member Posts: 112
    edited June 2012

    Pam-Just had my blood drawn today for the BRCA, so I don't know yet.  I have a large number of relatives with BC, but no first degree (though I have no sisters and my daughter is still a teen)...we will see I guess.  I'll let you know how it turns out. They think I'm most likely "familiar" rather than "BRCA", but I don't seem to hit the odds so good so I'm getting it to know for sure.

    Kimmie-I got my first port use w/o the cream too...ouch!  It's a big needle!  Your nurse sounds great though!  I haven't used the cream yet, but I have it and I hope it works! 

    Made an appointment at the wig shop finally for Friday...rougher to make that appointment than I expected.  I'm fortunate to have partial insurance coverage.  The biggest glitch on the day is that I got a message that my daughter, who is in Jamaica on a mission trip (planned before I was diagnosed) is undergoing treatment for subcutansous larva migras. From what I found, it means a bug/worm got in her foot and didn't die so it's getting infected.  She comes home Saturday.  Anyone know if this presents any issue for me?

      

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited June 2012

    Ellebee - I am so sorry for your loss.  I lost my first (canine) baby to cancer also.  It sucks.

  • mom24boyzs
    mom24boyzs Member Posts: 53
    edited June 2012

    Thank you everyone for your kind words and all the cyber hugs!! I feel much better today. You all are right, every hair that falls out means that a cancer cell has died! I too have periods where I just want to cry, but try really hard not to in front of my family. I usually go out on my front porch when no one is around and that's when I let the tears come. I think it's good to let those things happen.



    Praying everyone is doing well today, how are my Friday chemo buddies doing? Right now I have chemo brain and can't remember names(Marcia?)? Stay positive, we are going to kick some cancer butt!!!

    Blessings

  • Simplyblessed
    Simplyblessed Member Posts: 16
    edited June 2012

    Ellebee - So sorry about your loss that is awful. The last thing you need is any other kind of suffering.



    Steve- nice to have you here. I took care of my father until he passed away from Melanoma in September. I know first hand how difficult it is to be everything you want to be to someone that you love so very much. You have to have your own support. So welcome and I hope you find everything that you are seeking here. I have only had the opportunity to post here a few times but everyone makes you feel like you' re their best friend. :-)



    And Ellen- I've starting the crying thing too. We are so overwhelmed with so many emotions we have to just let it out. I read a book when my father passed that said the worst grief that any human can feel is their own. The same goes for pain and emotion..It is yours. It's easy to look and say others have it worse, but we are each living our own journey we can't discount our pain, suffering or emotions because we think someone else has it worse. Hope that makes sense.




    I would like to thank everyone for the replies. Had my first treatment yesterday. I haven't had my port put in yet so we tried with my very tiny and uncooperative veins. They got an IV in then I got the deca and the two anti nausea (emend and some other one I can't remember now) all went fine. Then as she started the Adriamyiacin the vein blew and I had an allergic reaction ( just local not systemic) and they were afraid it leaked into my tissue. We had to stop find a new vein and run a bag of Benedryl then the rest of the Adria and the Cytoxan Other than that pretty uneventful. Lol all in all it took 5 hours instead of 2. I started feeling crappy almost immediately so we shall see. Got my Neulatsla this afternoon.





    Hope everyone has the best day that they possibly can!!!

  • steve-billiemae
    steve-billiemae Member Posts: 33
    edited June 2012

    Hello,

      It's absolutely an honor and a privilage to be welcomed here. As a life long smoker who only recently quit...I may have to dance with the devil myself in the future. But we will cross that bridge together if God puts that in our path. I feel the most sympathy for those who have to take this path alone! I'm not sure how other health care systems work, but at Parkland your pretty much left in the dark unless you nearly die. I had the most insight into this battle after she was admitted last week from the Dr.s on the cancer floor while they battled to save her life, and thats also where we found this site!!! Thank God ya'll are here!!!! As I cruse from thread to thread I'm learning details about the ports and hair loss that I felt completely in the dark about. I'm as concerned about the ports as I am about the pic-lines with the exception of I don't believe a port can get tugged on by an excited pet or infected by getting wet. I read somewhere on here that ports have to be in for a week before getting used and Billiemae is scheduled for her next treatment on the July 2nd....seems like they're cutting it to close for comfort to me! Sadly I doubt that it can be administered in her impossible veins?!? It took the 18 sticks to setup an IV for cryin out loud!!! I'd love some input if you may have experience with this!!

      Sorry I'm so long winded, thank you for accepting me,

         Steve 

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited June 2012
    Steve-Billiemae- I understand your concerns about the port and quick turn around to access the port a few days later.  It does happen.  If that is what happens to Billiemae, when she goes into for the treatment, she/you should ask that the infusion nurse spray the area with a numbing spray (lidocaine).  After that, you should ask for a prescription of EMLA cream (lidocaine) that you would apply at least one hour before the chemo treatment.  EMLA cream cannot be used on an new port incision.  If you get a generic brand of EMLA cream, the cream will not include any special plastic coverings.  You can't use regular bandages to cover the EMLA cream because the bandage will absorb the cream and not stay on the skin.  You can use 4X 4 inch square of Saran wrap or Glad Press N Seal to cover it so it won't get on Billiemae clothes.  I assume you would be the one to apply the EMLA cream for her---- whatever you do, don't touch that cream with your fingers or your fingertips will be numb for hours.  Hope this helps.
  • pamelahope
    pamelahope Member Posts: 534
    edited June 2012

    Ellebee, I am so sorry about the loss of your pet. I wish it didn't happen now of all times.

    Steve and Billiemae, I had a port installed on Tuesday and it was accessed Thursday. It can be accessed right away.

    Simplyblessed, that was a difficult chemo session. Are your veins okay now. Sending lots of support to you. I had emend leak in my veins and it hurt!

    Mom24boys, the hair is hard. It gets better...I promise. Today, I put on a pink scarf and actually walked around my neighborhood. I could not do that last week! People are really nicer than I ever imagined!

    Steelersluv, I hope your daughter is okay. I don't think it would present a problem to you. I guess as long as she is getting treatment.

    It seems like today was sad for a lot of people. I hope tomorrow is brighter.

    I am happy because my surgery to remove my port from my chest has been cancelled and I don't need an arm port so that surgery has been cancelled. My existing port is healing. I am so happy to avoid two surgeries!!!!

    Thursday is chemo day! Dreading the assault and looking forward to killing those cancer cells. Tomorrow is my last good day! My only good days are the three days right before chemo.

    Wishing everyone a nice night! Pam

  • steve-billiemae
    steve-billiemae Member Posts: 33
    edited June 2012

    Melrosemelrose: I can't say thank you enough! This is just one more example of why I love this site so much!! We have already made notes to take with us on her next chemo appointment, and we feel prepared for the port install as well!

      Ya'll are AWESOME!!!

    Steve 

  • steve-billiemae
    steve-billiemae Member Posts: 33
    edited June 2012

    Pamelahope:

     Thank you so much!!! I keep finding more answers and love here that I can't find anywhere else! This place is heaven sent and it's because of the people here as amazing as you!!! I will post more Q's as they come up, and A's like I did earlier on aother thread! I hope things are going well for you,

        Steve 

  • Simplyblessed
    Simplyblessed Member Posts: 16
    edited June 2012

    Can someone help me with this heartburn?? I have had mashed potatoes, vanilla ice cream and yogurt today. That's it. My heartburn is out of control. I can't sleep and have been eating tums all day. Any known cures? Do I need nexium or prilosec?? I'm desperate.

  • StephanieJM
    StephanieJM Member Posts: 78
    edited June 2012

    Have you elevated the head of your bed?  Keep it up till you aare through chemo.  My daughter has it all the time, ometimes sleeps in a recliner.  Never lie down after eating for several hours.  When you lay dowwn, go to bed always lie on your left side for awhile, the spenkter )spelling) is on the right side and lying that side forces stom. contents up esophogus.  Not sure about drinking a half glass water with a couple pinches of baking soda, might helpright now. I honestly know what you are going through.... it's unbelievable [pain,  several years ago at a campout, I sat by the fire eting peanuts and drank a mojito (sure I butched that word too)  oh my gosh thought I would die all night.  Early next morning before I got up I heard my husband and daughers discussing where closest hospital would be.... but I was finee.  Don't think they ever saw Super Mom like that.  Other than the above advise, do you have a 24 hr. number to your oncologist.  also have you ever gone to earthclinic.com ,  one of my fav. natural healing advice sites, on top go to ailemnts, type in acid relex and you will see many, many poast.

    I have AR occasionally and cannot drink anything like lemonade, daquari, etc. even when healthy.  I started getting it and took Maalox after first chemo.  called onc. nurse.... she said don't wait.... start immediately after chemo, as some of the anti nausea drugs cause it so get ahead of it.  I did take Zantac, one in AM and one at night and it has cleared mine up..... that said I just got chemo 2 today, so will start itt tonight.

    Long and good visit with oncologist today, you may have seen my post about suden bout of lactose intolerance, after talking to me and reviewing othe things I had eater o.k. she thought it was not LI but from Acid reflex.   Oh, my gosh I Laughed reading the post from Billiemae about eating at Taco Bell or whatever......That little cutie must have a cast iron stomach!  God love her, I do enjoy some good Mex. food now and then.

    Pam....  I know what you mean about only three days good and then chemo aggain, that is what happened to be   However, I do feel I hae gotten a lot of the SE under control that have added to the misery.  AR, and mouth sores are so much better today.  I bought a baby toothbrush, my gums were sooooo sore, brush with bkaing soda, I was using a whitening toothpaste and it is too strong for our gums right now.  Also cutting food in tiny bite so less chewing on the gums  and no crunchy crackers, chips etc.  Low acid stuff.  Swish mouth with mild salt water many times per day.

    Elliemae, so very sorry about your cat.  I know he was so loved and had a wonderful life with you. Very hard to deal with at this time..... feel my arms aroun d  you, just holding you tight.  You are loved.  We've been there so many times, it is now easy.

    sorry for thee  many many typos, sitting on the sofa, in the dark, with my laptop which is quite cranky at times.... gee whiz you'd think i t  was the one getting chemo/

    Good night my frinds, sweet dreams God bless you all.   Stephanie 

  • Simplyblessed
    Simplyblessed Member Posts: 16
    edited June 2012

    Steph,



    I did elevate my head some. And swigged down some maalox. Hopefully this will help. I had horrible heartburn all throughy pregnancies but it was nothing compared to this. Thanks for the tips. <3</p>

  • StephanieJM
    StephanieJM Member Posts: 78
    edited June 2012

    So glad you are still up, it's 10;30 Oregon time.

    I went to Earthclinic myself to look for something.  I would not try the apple cider vinegar at this time, this is like a temporary thing and I think way to acid for you with tender stomach.

    I think once i took some peppermint water, if you happen to have pep or mint extract in your cupboard, try a drop or so in glass of water, if not avail.  try a peppermint candy, maybe.  I remember years ago.... and I mean years!  when one of our babies had colic, my mother in law said.... but a drop of mint, peppermint ext. in bottle of warm water..... honestly, old wives tale but it did calm them down.

    you might also check this,  I have this and use it for acid ref. after Mex. food, etc.  I just copied the post

    ""Two last things, if you don't like licorice, they do have German Chocolate flavored DGL which helps to disguise the flavor. Secondly, if you have high blood pressure, make sure you buy the kind that has the glycyrrhizin compound (associated with high blood pressure) removed""

    Do get the choc. flav. the other is awful, it's deglycerized licorice.  

     And do keep in mind there is some real weird stuff posted on Earthclinic... use your brain and check with your onc.

    good night dear, you are in my prayers.  

  • DorisMarie
    DorisMarie Member Posts: 129
    edited June 2012

    Steve..port is wonderful..but kinda agriavating..foriegn object...had mine put in on a monday..chemo on wends. did get an infection but called and got an antibiotic that fixed it right up..germ was already in my system ..the port area was covered with the "super glue" ..putting port in they used the happy juice..you are awake but don't 'member a thing..daughter said they brought me back to room talking..sitting up..acting normal..I don't remember that..first thing I knew..was drinking juice and eating crackers..that happy juice(nurses name for it) is great stuff..wonder if I can get some on the black market? LOL..best wishes to both of you..

    Heartburn..dollar store acid reducer..drug name ratinidine worked for me...

    hugs ellebee....

    wish me luck..my turn today in the BGC...

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited June 2012

    Steve - I had my port placed on a Tuesday and first infusion 2 days later.  No problem at all.  I apply the EMLA cream myself and cover it with Press and Seal.  I never felt like my fingers became numb.  I guess I washed it off right away.  When the nurse accesses it, I feel no pain at all, just a push.

    Pamela- I hope you enjoy today!  We actually have sun for the first time since Debby.  I forgot to ask about your weather yesterday.

    Simplyblessed - Gaviscon worked for my heartburn.

  • DorisMarie
    DorisMarie Member Posts: 129
    edited June 2012

    meant to add ..my clinic does not use the numbing cream..but even on new port was not bad..one quick stick....it was in..

    best wishes for all today...Doris

  • Marcia1111
    Marcia1111 Member Posts: 368
    edited June 2012

    Please excuse me if this is in bad tastet -   Has anyone noticed that they have more body odor?  I feel like my deoderant is not working.

  • mom24boyzs
    mom24boyzs Member Posts: 53
    edited June 2012

    Steve- I had my port place last Thursday and the used it right away on Friday with no problems at all. Just ask them to leave it accessed for chemo and the chemo nurses will take care of it all! Easy, breezy!



    Simply- I have the heartburn too, but it doesn't quite sound as bad as yours. It seems like if I drink plenty of water and stay ahead of the nausea it has helped this round.



    Ellebee- sorry about your kitty. That can't be easy, especially for your kiddos! Hope it gets better.



    Hope everyone has a wonderful day with minimal se!!

    Blessings!

  • DorisMarie
    DorisMarie Member Posts: 129
    edited June 2012

    Marcia..I had to give up my secret deoderant..went to shower one morn and had a "coating"? under my arms..scrubbed it off..and asked family to tell me if I get "offensive" I shower every morn and use dial soap..so far..no one has complained..

    my sense of smell is hightened..so maybe I will spot it first..LOL

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