July 2012 Radiation

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Starting a new thread.  I was on June board but have had complications that are pushing me until July to start the rad party.   Any others?

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  • Belinda977
    Belinda977 Member Posts: 381
    edited June 2012
  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited June 2012

    Hi Belinda - Thought I posted earlier but it disappeared!  I should start rads in July after my last chemo July 5th.

  • Belinda977
    Belinda977 Member Posts: 381
    edited June 2012

    Just hoping this incision will heal so I can start the rads!  Thinking positive!

  • babette54
    babette54 Member Posts: 65
    edited June 2012

    I start rads on July 2 so I am joining this discussion board.  Today (6/21/12) was my mapping session.  I had a CAT scan and some marks drawn on my chest with a Sharpie.  Next Thursday, I have my simulation where I will get my tatoos and a "practice" radiation session.  I was told it would be best to begin my first "real" rad on Monday (July 2) instead of on a Friday.

    The planning session was not too bad.  The worst part was holding my arm above my head for 20+ minutes since my lumpectomy and lymph node dissection was just 3 weeks ago.  My arm mobility is good but still not 100%.

    I'm a bit nervous about this rads thing but have resigned myself that it is in my best interest to do it.  So far, I have kicked cancer's butt but plan to give cancer one more punch.  I am the victor!!!

    I look forward to keeping in touch with all of you July rads ladies.  I saw the bell on the wall today at the radiation center and can hardly wait to be the one ringing it.  The end is in sight!!!

  • babette54
    babette54 Member Posts: 65
    edited June 2012

    I start rads on July 2 so I am joining this discussion board.  Yesterday (6/21/12) was my mapping session.  I had a CAT scan and some marks drawn on my chest with a Sharpie.  Next Thursday, I have my simulation where I will get my tatoos and a "practice" radiation session.  I was told it would be best to begin my first "real" rad on Monday (July 2) instead of on a Friday.

    The planning session was not too bad.  The worst part was holding my arm above my head for 20+ minutes since my lumpectomy and lymph node dissection was just 3 weeks ago.  My arm mobility is good but still not 100%.

    I'm a bit nervous about this rads thing but have resigned myself that it is in my best interest to do it.  So far, I have kicked cancer's butt but plan to give cancer one more punch.  I am the victor!!!

    I look forward to keeping in touch with all of you July rads ladies.  I saw the bell on the wall today at the radiation center and can hardly wait to be the one ringing it.  The end is in sight!!!

  • Zgirl66
    Zgirl66 Member Posts: 20
    edited June 2012

    Babette54 good luck! I just finished 6/12. Apply proper moisturizing creams early and often. I had very tough time finding anything that worked well, but think I'm exception. I used iPod to block sounds which relaxed me and allowed me to get my head out of room. Be strong! This too shall pass.

  • Belinda977
    Belinda977 Member Posts: 381
    edited June 2012
  • Butterflylady2012
    Butterflylady2012 Member Posts: 187
    edited June 2012

    Hi All, I met with Radiation Dr. for first time today.  Went pretty well.  He said that due to my age relatively young age (43), size of my tumor (3 cm x 2.5 cm) and very small clean margin, he strongly recommended Rads.  Separately they might not be much, but he said together  recurrence rate is probably approximately 40%, after Rads more near 10%.  I have my simulation next week.  And should be starting the following week.  I'm a little nervous, but not too bad.  Heard that with expander, discomfort can be tight and tense feeling.  What creams are recommended for skin irritation.  Any preferred over others?

    I recently made a decision for No Chemo, with low Oncotype score and only 2% reduction.  

  • HealingDreams
    HealingDreams Member Posts: 50
    edited June 2012

    I had my CT scan and simulation last week and started rads today. But, it will last all of July, so I think I'm posting in the right thread.

    My rad onc recommended Vitamin E cream and aloe vera gel. She also recommended a specific brand, but that brand includes parabans and propylene glycol. Parabans is one of the chemicals implicated in breast cancer.

    A good friend and survivor recommended Jason's Vitamin E cream--none of those nasty additives--and the aloe vera plant itself. I watched a youtube video about the plant, how to care for it, how to cut it. I am still learning, but cut my first "leaf" today to take with me to my session.

    It's recommended to use the Vitamin E cream and the aloe vera twice a day. I plan once after treatment in the dressing room and once at bedtime.

    My friend said that her radiologist had never seen skin do so well! I am fair with little sun exposure, especially on those parts, so I doubt my skin will be quite so cooperative, but I'll let you know.

    Belinda--we were diagnosed on the same day. We seem to be on track with each other.

  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited June 2012

    Hi everyone,

    I post in the June rads thread as well as joining this one. I started rads today and will go through August 3rd. So most of treatment will be the hot month of July. I am prone to lymphedema so I started wearing my sleeve full time today which makes me even more hot. And don't get me started about the hot flashes since starting chemo in January. Menopause at 37 was NOT on my to do list...Smile I have 3 creams which were recommeneded. Aquaphor, 100% Aloe, and Emu oil. Just have to see which one/combo works best.

    My first treatment today was quick/efficient which I like as a type A. But the whole process was just awkward. The techs were very nice and told me that yes the first treatments are awkward then they are just repetitive and boring. I'll take boring right about now.

    Hugs to those starting soon......

  • Belinda977
    Belinda977 Member Posts: 381
    edited June 2012

    Healingdreams, I hope I am not far behind you.  I have to wait probably about 2-3 more weeks to start rads.  Our situations are very similar.  My Oncotype was 19 though.  

    Welcome everyone! I am sure July will fly by.

  • Butterflylady2012
    Butterflylady2012 Member Posts: 187
    edited June 2012

    HealingDreams - Thank you, I am impressed by the amount of research you have done.  Thank you for the suggestions.  I will also look for Jason's Vitamin E cream! Sounds like it works very well in combination with the Aloe Vera.  I was already aware of Aloe Vera, but will definitely use it daily.  

    AND thank you for the little tibit about Parabans.  All I can say is wow...what a finding!  I looked up Paraban immediately after reading it and all can say is I will be much more aware of this chemical in the future and how it finds itself into items I use everyday.  I hate the thought of it!  Most people are so unaware what is in the products we have in our homes which are hurting us, silently hurting us. Thanks!

  • Jag1110
    Jag1110 Member Posts: 77
    edited June 2012

    Hi everyone, I was also posting in June but I am just going for my ct sim this Thursday and suppose to start rad July 10th, my 22nd wedding anniversary, what fun, with 30 rounds ending Aug 20th. I am enjoying my month off from chemotherapy and just starting to feel normal again. my rads doc told me to get Utterly Smooth cream ( with the cow print), I used this on my hands when I was a hair stylist so we'll see, I noticed no one else is using this. Not looking forward to the tatoo's, do they hurt?

  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited June 2012

    Jag110:

    For me the tattoos did not really hurt, just a pinch. And I was really, really nervous. I completely expected the tech to whip out a zzzzzing tattoo gun but I was surprised. She had one tattoo done before I even realized it was happening. The tech placed a drop of ink from a bottle and then a pin prick with a needle. That' was it. I have 3 tattoos, some people get 4.

    Good luck and Hugs to you while going through this!

    P.S. I have heard of women using Utterly Smooth. I think different center recommend different creams etc. I have 3 different creams and/or oils. Will see what works best.

  • babette54
    babette54 Member Posts: 65
    edited June 2012

    I have major concerns about getting radiation to my left breast due to the risk of radiation to the heart.  My brother died of a massive heart attack at age 46 and my sister had a heart attack 6 years ago at age 50.  Obviously, heart disease runs in my family although I have no signs of heart disease now.  After my CAT scan (which showed the location of my heart), my RO has suggested eliminating radiation to the part of my breast located above/near my heart.  Luckily, my tumor bed is located at 12 o'clock and rather high above my areola.  Therefore, it is a distance away from the proposed unradiated site.  The tradeoff of having an increased chance of reoccurrance in a small unradiated piece of breast vs. possible damage to my heart sounds good to me given my family history.  Has anyone heard of doing radiation this way?  What would you do in my situation?

  • Teacup2012
    Teacup2012 Member Posts: 49
    edited June 2012

    Hi everyone, I will be starting Rads on Monday, July 2nd. I had my CT scan last week and go for my simulation on Friday. I also have concerns about my heart with the Rads on the left side. I'm anxious for my simulation to see what the plan is.



    Babatte54, it's so hard to make these decsions and to know what is the best. Ultimately you need to do whatever you are most comfortable with. I've agnoized over every decision since my dx.



    I hate it that any of us are here, but am glad there are other to share the experience with. I didn't get very involved in a chemo thread, even though I read many. I guess I'm just feeling like I need support, and hopefully I can offer support and encouragement to you all as well.

  • graced
    graced Member Posts: 104
    edited June 2012

    I will be meeting my radiation onc for the first time on Friday so I'll be starting up some time in early July I suppose.

    Babette54 - is prone radiation an option?  I think they offer that at my hospital so I'll find out Friday if I qualify.  It's when you lie on your stomach and there's a hole - I guess - in the table for your breast so they zap your breast while the rest of you is safely on the other side of the table.  I've also read that CoQ10 is great to take to help protect the heart during treatments.

    Oh and next week I'm getting a massage from a woman who specializes in breast cancer massage.  She's written a book about breast care called Phluff the Girls and she developed a cream for radation.  I will buy it next week and start using it in preparation.  Here's the link to it:

     http://www.cherylchapman.com/herbal_touch.html

     :-)

    Grace

  • babette54
    babette54 Member Posts: 65
    edited June 2012

    Teacup - Did you notice that our dates of diagnosis are just one day apart?  I am so tired of cancer controlling my life.  I will be glad when rads are over and I am done (except for 5 years of AI).  I'm planning what to do to celebrate--a trip of some sort, I think.

    I agree that one must go with one's gut feeling regarding making decisions concerning breast cancer treatment (and also in life).  Thanks for reminding me of this.

    Grace - My understanding is that the prone position can only be used if the underarm node area doesn't need to be radiated.  My plan calls for rads to that area, too.  You may qualify since your nodes were clear.  Also, your heart is less at risk due to your cancer being on the right side.  Lung involvement is still a concern for both of us.  Enjoy your massage.

  • Belinda977
    Belinda977 Member Posts: 381
    edited June 2012

    Mine is left side as well.  I heard a quote I liked from Robin Roberts who developed leukemia from her chemo treatments.  For me, I have to think about the immediate crisis (stopping the cancer) and hopefully I wouldn't develop a side effect later on from these treatments.  She said something like she had to face the immediate need and would still have have done chemo even with what she knows now.  

  • Jag1110
    Jag1110 Member Posts: 77
    edited June 2012

    Thanks Momof2inME, I was a little worried about the tats. I'm getting nervous but also want this over with. My cancer was in the left breast so I worry alot about my heart and lungs. My RO said my heart wouldn't get hit but my lungs would get overspray. I will have to ask the percentage,  didn't know about that. I have alot of swelling in my ankles, but I guess that is a se of the chemo. Tomorrow is the ct simulation, what can I expect from that?

  • liefie
    liefie Member Posts: 2,440
    edited June 2012

    Butterfly, I have had 19 out of 25 rads with TE (left side). I am not experiencing any tightness or discomfort so far. When the rads are done, I'm going back to stretch joga which will hopefully help to keep it loose and prevent this from happening. Immediately after radiation I slather on the green aloe vera gel, and I put it on again a few hours afterwards. The other cream that I use is Lubriderm 24h Intense Dry Skin Repair recommended by my PS as well as rad onc. When I wake up in the morning, the skin still feels very soft and hydrated as if you have just put on cream. I like that. I am now getting a little redness/soreness/itchiness on my chest above the breast for which I will put on a hydrocortizone over-the-counter cream twice a day. Hope my experience helps someone else get through this okay. 

  • Teacup2012
    Teacup2012 Member Posts: 49
    edited June 2012

    Liefie - it sounds like your skin is holding up really well!

    Jag - I also have swelling in my ankles. Today has been especially bad. I just finished chemo last Friday. My MO said the swelling is due to low red blood cell counts. He wasn't concerned, but I feel a little concerned. I have my simulation on Friday, so I can't share on what to expect.



    Babette - I didn't notice our dx dates, but did notice our dx is very similar as well as our treatment. AND we start rads on the same day!



    I only got 2 tattoos, my experience was just like momof2, a drop of ink and a poke.



    Hope you all have a restful night.....

  • lifechanging2011
    lifechanging2011 Member Posts: 48
    edited June 2012

    Hi Babett,

    I finished 33 treatments of radiation in March. I have an autoimmune disease so they were concerned about the radiation touching my inner organs, which could spark more inflammation.  They decided to have me lay on my stomach the whole time. My boob would be put through a whole in the table, but this way the radiation had a much less chance of touching my inner organs. Have they discussed that as an option?

    Traci

  • Jag1110
    Jag1110 Member Posts: 77
    edited June 2012

    Teacup2012 - I just got marked and films taken, no tattos yet, I guess now they figure out the right way to line me up. Hopefully they still get me done in time to start on the 10th, I hate all the waiting.

  • Belinda977
    Belinda977 Member Posts: 381
    edited June 2012

    I have my marking/tattoo/ct scan scheduled July 13.  After that, the radiating will begin.  :-)

  • HealingDreams
    HealingDreams Member Posts: 50
    edited June 2012

    My tumor was also in my left breast, babette54, and I also have concerns about my heart. The lung will be touched no matter what. They can't avoid it. But they are trying to avoid the heart.

    I asked to see the plan for radiation, and the RO showed me pictures this week of how the radiation works in my case. The pcitures are from the CT scan and show exactly where my organs are and how the radiation should travel in my body. She pointed out a spot where radiation comes close to the heart.

    No one needs heart damage from this treatment, but I didn't see any good alternative in my case. This is the standard of care for a lumpectomy with a tumor like mine. My surgeon, who was wonderful in all ways, said, "You'd really be doing yourself a disservice if you don't do radiation." His pointed advice was helpful.

    But the bottom line for me just comes down to trust. I have to trust that everyone did the math correctly, that they understand the physics of radiation, that the techs lined me up right and are using the tattoos, not a freckle to line up my body, that the machine itself is regularly checked for accuracy and so on. Not a thing I can do about any of this, so what can I do but choose trust?

    Please understand that this is just an explanation of my process and may not be right for anyone else.

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited June 2012

    Ok so what all has to be done before starting?  I haven't even gotten my RO yet, I am assuming my MO will tell me who to go to on my last treatment next Thursday.  My MO was on vacation last treatment so I didn't get a chance to ask him.  I was really hoping I could start 3 weeks after I finished chemo, but after reading this thread that is sounding like it won't happen!  

  • Teacup2012
    Teacup2012 Member Posts: 49
    edited June 2012

    Onvacation - I had my last chemo last Friday- and have my simulation tomorrow. My first treatment is Monday, so it is possible to have things move quickly. Of course it will all depend on what your RO's philosophy and availability is.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2012

    JAG110: thanks for your questions.  I have the sae side effects and am about 4 weeks behind you so I appreciate seeing the repsonses to you.

     VVH 

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited June 2012

    Thanks teacup!  Good luck to you!

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