Starting chemo Thursday, May 31 - June Group?
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I hope that I didn't scare any of the new people that have't gone for their first chemo yet. When I said I was dreading my 2nd TX, I was being a baby. It's not the chemo that I was thinking of. It turned out to be way more manageable then I thought it would be. I was referring to the down days when I won't be able to do as much as I usually do. I'm spoiled. Some people wake up sick every day of their lives. I had to remind myself of that.
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This is what I was given prior to AC chemo. Thought it might help someone. I didn't have any nausea and was pleasantly surprised, because even the thought of the word nausea makes me nauseous:).
Emend 125 mg 1 hr prior to chemo. I have to bring this with me for the 2nd infusion. They have to do bloodwork first. They had it there for the 1st time, then they gave me an rx for it. Take 80mg on the 2nd and 3rd days.
Decadron (dexamethasone) -- they gave me a few pills prior to chemo. I don't remember how many. Then, 1 tablet for 3 days after treatment.
Prilosec (omeprazole) 20 mg - take one tablet daily if needed. I took this for the 1st week and I really think it helped.
They also gave me rxs for compazine (prochlorperazine) 10 mg if needed for nausea. I didn't need it.
Also, ativan (lorazepam) 1 mg if needed for nausea. I didn't need that either.
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Pam - So sorry that you're having all this hitting you. If I feel well on Monday, I will give you a call. I was just taking a shower and pulling more and more hair out. I am so glad I cut i short before this. I think the combination of the sleeping pill I mistakenly took and the hot water hit me. My legs buckled under me and I couldn't stay up. Unfortunately, my 15 year old found me laying on the bathroom floor. Fortunately, I was covered up! I am going back to my original plan of laying on the couch all day.
I didn't buy a wig, but the ACS gave me one that is very close to my short haircut. A co-worker also gave me 4 wigs that she wore during chemo. They are all different colors! Two are brown, one is red and one is blonde. I don't think the blonde will work for me. The others aren't bad. I also bought two buffs, a ton of bandanas, a few hats, and I have some scarves. So far,I wore a bandana yesterday and today I'm wearing a buff. I am not looking forward to a wig in the South Florida summer, but will probably wear the short brown onewhen I go out.
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Hello there, looks like we have the same diagnosis, i was diagnosed on 5/16/12 and had my first chemo last Monday, June 18, 2012. I also do not know as much about this as everyone else seems to and quite frankly, do not know if I want to make it my life's work. This is my first post and am so glad to have gotten this referral from my friend, who just returned to work after one year to tend to her cancer. But I also know that the person who cares most about me and my treatment is ME, so it is necessary to keep a handle on it. I too, got all of the 'preventative' meds, but hate taking meds, so i have resisted thus far, except for the nausea pill on the 4th day after chemo. Thus far, have only had one bad day, the rest have been pretty good. I get a port put in next Friday, June 29th and my second chemo on July 2. Attended ACS class about makeup, wigs, etc., which I highly recommend - called Feel Good, Look Better. My doc said that my hair will be gone by July 4, which i am not looking forward to. I am single and on leave from work, and kind of bored already! Need to get into a routine of some sort. Thanks again for keeping up this site.
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Thank you Doris. I have the number but was hesitant to call. Just afraid they might not be okay and also feel funny having a stranger come in... however, I should.Pam
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Marcia,
I know about the fainting. It happens to me if I am not careful on the fourth and fifth days after treatment. The Saturday and Sunday after infusion I just do the bare minimum in the shower. Monday and Tuesday you start feeling better and try to do more...and hence the blacking out episodes. I didn't exactly faint but start to see black and have to lie down. I am so sorry this happened to you. It is not a pleasant feeling. I feel bad and hope you were not there long.
I am doing better. I went out to eat with my family. I was starving as I did not eat all week. It was so nice to be able to enjoy my children. When I am sick it is so hard for me.
I am glad you are getting out in wigs and buffs and scarves.
Ok, about the hair I am so glad I buzzed it. It was horrifying in the shower today. It was on my back shower wall. I told myself it looked like razor stubble from my legs. I have bald patches on my head!!! My hair is getting ready to go.
The good news is Adriamycin is powerful stuff. Not sure if it is my imagination but my lump is shrinking. I don't feel it getting bigger.
Josephina, Welcome. It sounds like you came through your first chemo pretty good. You have a good attitude and hope you find fun activities to occupy you and alleviate your boredom. I remember from years ago how strange it is to go from working to not. Thank you for the reminder about the class, everyone says how great it is.
Wishing everyone lots of stamina and nausea free days! May we all find lots of inner strength to get through this.
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Keepmoving, I related to your last post. I understand exactly what you meant. I hope I am not scaring anyone too. However, we are all reacting differently. Some women even can work. I feel like a wimp sometimes as another woman who felt like me might push herself and be more functional. However, I think it is good to be honest. I don't want anyone else to be thinking why is everyone feeling great but me! I do find the days when I can go out walking with a friend I feel better.
That is a good reminder that there are people who wake up sick everyday. I forget all that. I shouldn't. Hope your day is going good.
Pam -
I'm a June chemo girl too! I will be starting Monday. I had BMX on June 6th and will do my first treatment then have a power port put in on July 5th. I'm doing A/C every other week x 4. Then Taxol weekly x 12. So glad to get started so I can be that much closer to being finished.
I am nervous though. Funny thing for me is I'm more upset about losing my hair than I was my boobs :-) .I can't express how helpful it is to read all of the posts. It's comforting to go through this with so many other fighters :-) -
Hey ladies! I'm Baaaa-aaack! I was blissfully off the grid for a week, and loved it. Although I must admit I missed checking on you girls!
I will read everything I missed later and catch up. Hope you all had a great week and that you kicked some cancer-ass while I was gone! More soon...
ElleBee
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Simplyblessed, I too am more upset over my hair than my breasts. I am going into my third a/c treatment on Thursday. I pulled a clump of hair right before my second treatment. Today, I noticed more loss. I buzzed it as it was easier then seeing long strands of hair. My husband was totally fine with it!!!! My children today are so used to it. My son saw me getting upset when I saw a bald patch. He is seven and told me it was okay!!!!! My four year old treats me exactly the same. They both do. My neighbors and friends are the same. Guess who is the only one that cares???? Me. It is an adjustment. You will be okay. We are all going through it together. Plus you have time. Try on wigs now for fun and scarves. Get used to them. Makes the transition easier.
Don't let chemo scare you. It totally was better than I thought in my mind. I don't enjoy it at all. However, we need it.
It is interesting, how we all do the treatments in different orders. I haven't had my mastectomy yet, so that scares me. The drains...
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Ellebee, You are back! I missed you! Hope you had a nice vacation.
Pam -
Welcome back, Ellebee! So glad you enjoyed your vacation!
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Marcia, we are on the same program, you started 5 days before me..... so I should expect to lose my hair in about 5 days! I have heard different times, some say 20 days. We leave Sunday, July 1 for an annual family retreat, I really hope to get it over with before we go..... if I was brave I would shave it bfore going but keep thinking by some miricle maybe I will be a rare person and not lose it!! Someone posted they tied their hair in little ponytails and just cut it off, think I will do that if nec. We will be 25 miles from a town and I just can't bring myself to go in to a strange place for a cut. Have to see what happens next week.
This is day 12 from my first treatment and the best I have felt, I have no idea how anyone could work!! This really hit me harder than I expected but remember i'm old!! Getting our trailer ready so when I get #2 on Tues and crash, I can just get in the truck and go on Sunday. I was flat on my back from day 2-5. We so enjoy this retreat with kids, grandkids, etc. every year, I don't want my husband to miss it. He has been such a joy and comfort tto me.
For you Moms out there, kids are so wonderful and resourceful, we really underestimate them most of the time. Be easy on yourselves. They will learn great lessons from your experience, things that we could never teach them in a book. I've always been super Mom and Gram, I really intend to let the grandkids help me, who knows one might decide to be a nurse or doctor from this experience. How many kids in life have the opportunity to help a cancer patient!! It's always interesting for me to watch a child handle a baby animal or injured bird, they are so gentle and anxious to help something smaller and weaker than they are. It builds confidence and character.
Hope everyone has a wonderful Sunday. Bless you.
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Pamelahope- thanks for the reply and support. I will be honest with you the mastectomy was not nearly as bad as I had anticipated. I highly recommend when the time comes you discuss what is called on On-Q block. It is similar to an epidural and blocks out roughly 80% of the surgical pain. You go home with them and they were a cinch to remove about 3 days post op. The JP drains freaked me out some in the beginning but then they were really just more of a nuisance. I am 2 1/2 weeks post op and although I don't feel like running a marathon I am doing well. I went out to dinner last night and was able to get dressed even for my first post op visit a week out. The first week is the hardest but you will be surprised at how helpful your kids want to be :-) of course this was just my experience. Individual mileage may vary :-)
I am cutting my hair short next week and then each one of my 3 kids get to pick a wild color and they are going to dye it! I thought it would be a fun thing for them to do and allow some fun memories to be made.
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Good morning ladies! I had every intention of catching up last night, and welcoming new ladies, and posting....and I was asleep sitting next to my husband on the couch by 8:30. Our vacation took it out of us! And 12 hrs. in the car yesterday always wipes us out.
Sheesh, I missed a LOT of posts in a week! My head is sort of spinning with all the new news.
Welcome to all the new ladies who I have not "met" yet. I know you will find the support you need in this group. These women are amazing!
Marcia - that shower incident sounds scary! I have never fainted. Thanks for letting us know. I will be sure to watch out for that and keep the water cooler when I switch regimens.
Pamelahope - I appreciate what a hard week you have had. I am eagerly awaiting my BRCA test, and sort of prepared for the same news. But if I have the BRCA marker, it will probably send me reeling. The beast just keeps getting bigger and biggeer for you, doesn't it? And having to have your port out and a PICC put in? Geez, that sucks. Big hugs to you. Let me know if you need anything at all. Here for you darlin'.
Just a quick update: I took a week off from my weekly taxol/herceptin cocktail to go on vacation. I indulged in what I am sure my oncologist would think is an obscene amount of wine. But hell, I had a week off. I am back to being "good". I might be a little dehydrated from the wine and the hot weather, so pushing fluids today.
Other than some fatigue setting in (probably due to anemia from the chemo) I still feel pretty great. You girls should feel much better once on weekly taxol. My hair is still holding on. I must say that I am loving the ease of this new short style. Having long hair almost my entire life, I was not sure I would like short hair. Sort of looking forward to having short styles once it begins to grow back. Tomorrow will be 4 weeks since first chemo, but only dose 3.
I have some good resources for you ladies!
This blog has some useful information about scarf tying and how to apply false eyebrows and eyelashes. The tutorials are great, and the girl doing it is just precious!
http://eyelineher.blogspot.com/
Well, I think I am off to the fabric store to get some yardage for scarves and such. I think I am going to also recycle some old tees into cute caps. If any of you are crafty, let me know, and I will let you know what resources I have found. (I have started a board on pinterest sort of devoted to cosmetic stuff related to cancer. Let me know if you want to follow me on pinterest)
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Ellebee - I love pinterest. It is one of my new addictions! I would love to follow you!
Did you go to a look good feel better class? I heard they show you how to make a head covering out of an old t-shirt. The ACS gave me a wig and a nice cap for sleeping and I can't find the cap! It's driving me crazy because I don't usually lose stuff. I can't imagine where I put it!
I took a shorter, cooler shower today and the sleeping pill at 10 p.m., rather than 5 a.m., so I had a much better start today!
I hope everyone has a great SE-free day!
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Ellebee and Marcia I would love to follow you on pinterest, I am a quilter and have quite a stash of fabric, would love to make myself some scarves etc.
I had my first chemo treatment on Friday,only day 2 and not too bad today, hope it continues this way...... 3 more to go, each 3 weeks apart, so have not started with the hair loss yet, but do want to be prepared.
Will also see what I can do about eye lashes, I am so use to wearing mascara that really don't know what I will do about that, if I don't have it on I look so sick.
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StephanieJM- Hi! I'm the one who sectioned off my short bob into little pony tails and snipped them off while everyone at my house was gone running errands!!!! Just got so annoyed with hair failling out here and there. I was having to lint roller myself, my pillow, and my clothes too many times a day. My husband used some electric clippers with a 1 inch cutter guard and cleaned up my work so that I had a really short short boy cut. He cleaned up the sides and back and left the front the way I had cut it. I left the front section a little longer so I could comb my hair to the side. I have not cut my hair since then. I'm heading into #4 of 6 rounds of Cytoxan/Taxotere on Tuesday. I still have some hair which I would describe as sparse and I look like I have a shadow/veil of hair on my head. I still have eye brows/ lashes and some leg, arm and down south hair. I'm not planning to cut/shave my head to the nub because I have always wanted to see if the chemo would take out all of my hair or not (my personal science experiment) and I felt that I couldn't handle the dramatic/abrupt change from having hair to no hair in a matter of minutes. Whatever you do, be comfortable with your decision.
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Ladies - here are the instructions for the Look Good - Feel Better T-shirt turban from the class, they are nice and soft:
Get an old t-shirt to practice this with.
You're going to cut straight across under the arms.
Now you're going to use the tube that is left.
Put the hemmed end of the tube, right side out, around your head, holding it in place in the center of your forehead. It will hang down past your neck in the back.
Now, gather the back open end in your hand by putting that hand through the back opening.
Twist it at the nape of your neck, keeping an open loop on your hand.
This is the hard part to visualize. Pull the loop back over your head from back to front, and circle your head it from your forehead to the back of your neck.
With practice, you'll get the loop to look like the twisted part of a turban all the way around your head. -
On the subject of eyebrows/lashes - I did not lose all of mine. I used Anastasia colored brow gel one shade darker than my natural hair color. It is like mascara for your eyebrows, easy to use. If you do lose them all this company also has stencils with powder so you are not having to draw them on with a pencil. You can find these at Sephora. For lashes I lost all the bottom ones, but had a few stragglers on the top. I used dark eyeliner and that seemed to mask the fact that I really had no lashes. I also used darker lipstick or gloss and wore bigger earrings. This is especially helpful when you go "topless" and stop wearing headcoverings or wigs.
Here are some links for scarves/hats, I believe that gaila fund and france luxe will send you one for free :
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Good Morning Ladies!!
I would also like to follow on pinterest, not sure what it is but sounds great.
Early in this journey I went on line and was looking around at head coverings, I found this adorable girl on utube, she has several videos on makeup and head coverings, her attitude is so positive. Here she shows the t shirt headcovering.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCHVW-PuXDQ&feature=related
Enjoy the day!!
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Stephanie, Your posts and attitude perk me right up. I can't wait to hear about your vacation. It sounds nice to get away and being around your family. Please don't think it is your age, why chemos side effects are giving you a hard time. Adriamycin is powerful stuff. I am 45 and I am in bed all day days 3 and 4 and most of 5. I actually am spending most of my days in bed. It is knocking my socks off. Thank you for your advice about parenting and the reminder that kids are stronger than we realize and the experience may actually help them mature. You have a great way of putting things. Just noticed your picture and you and your husband make a nice couple. You look great. You will still look okay with a wig or scarf.
Ellebee, So glad you had a great vacation! Also glad you are feeling great and enjoying your new haircut. Even the obscene amount of wine sounds good. I hope your BRACA test is okay. As if the breasts are not enough to worry about who wants to worry about the ovaries. Plus, the side effects of taking them out. It was hard taking in the additional diagnosis.
Marcia, I am glad your shower went well today.
Everyone, I went on Pinterest but didnt get into it. However, everyone else is hooked. Maybe, I should try again. I would like to follow my new friends on this board for sure!!!!
SpecialK, good to see you again! Hope you are doing well. Thank you for your helpful links.
Melrose, hello and noticed you are already at number 4 of 6 infusions. You are almost there.
Ellen, hope you continue to feel well and I like learning about everyone hobbies I.e. quilting. Sort of neat to be able to make your own scarf!
Simplyblessed, Thank you for telling me more about the mastectomy. I think one gets scared before the next treatment step. I was not aware of the pain reliever you mentioned. Also, thanks for reassuring me the drains are okay. You made me laugh, while at the same time I found endearing how your kids are picking out the wig colors. Please let us know what colors you get. Can you dye synthetic wigs? Make sure first. I still remember the time my father when we were young let us pick the color of his next car. It was special.
Speak to everyone later! Hope everyone has a good Sunday!
Pam -
Pam: sorry it was late I Should have clarified. I am letting them dye my REAL hair before it falls out!! Lol. My 7 year old thought they were going to be dying my hair purple when it grew back and I had to clarify that NO they were going to dye it because it was going to fall out. I thought it would be fun for them to see their conservative mom look like a punk rocker for a few days.
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Pamelahope- Yes.... I'm having #4 of 6 on Tuesday and looking forward to my time in the Big Girl Chair. Yes, I call it the Big Girl Chair because my feet don't touch the ground when I'm sitting in that gold recliner lounge chair plus I have to have someone else put the chair in the reclining position for me and pull out the foot rest!!!!! It's pretty funny to see me sitting there with feet dangling and trying to put the chair in the reclining position by myself!!!
FYI: I had a left UMX in March 2012 so I've been through the surgery, drain thing and recovery of my arm movement. All very doable. I knew I was having chemo after I recovered from my surgery but until the chemo start date was set, I focused on recovering from my surgery so I would be ready physically and emotionally ready for chemo. At this point, that is what I'm doing while having chemo. I don't know if I will be having rads but until I know and if I do, when the start date of the rads would be, I focus on what is right in front of me right now--- the chemo. For now, concentrate on getting through chemoland. One step at a time, girlfriend, one step at a time. It is much too difficult and overwhelming to comprehend and deal with all of the different phases of treatment, so the goal for now is for you and your family to continue to thrive and get through chemoland.
HUGS!!!
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Simplyblessed, Thanks for clarifying! That changes everything!!! LOL!!!
Melrose, You must be petite. However, the recliner aspect of chemo is pretty cool. We are lucky for that. Imagine, if we all got chemo in waiting room chairs! Plus, my place has cookies and crackers. I heard some places have sandwiches....I wish! You are right about one step at a time. I had the whole rest of my life mapped out and it was not a pretty picture. Important to get through what is right in front of you, before you take on tomorrow. Otherwise, you have double the baggage, and twice the fatigue.
Everyone, I know I am on the boards so much, but I am so drained, and can't do much else right now. I am spending way to much time in bed. I just don't have a lot of energy right now. Plus, it is helping me cope better. I have a lot of treatment to get through...
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Pam, I was FREAKED OUT by the thought of the drains before my surgery too! You will be surprised by how fast you get used to them, they are temporary anyway. I had three of them. I had the first one removed by the surgeon at 11 days. Well, they told me to watch for the drainage to drop below 30cc per day for two days then I could go back and have them removed.
As soon as mine hit those levels (at 16 and 21 days) I just clipped the stitch and pulled them out myself. It didn't even hurt, but was so freeing to get rid of them, mostly because I wanted a good bubble bath soak! I had to wait one more week for that, but it was great when it finally happened.
My good friend also has BC, she took her drain out too... they aren't as bad as you think. Do you know when your mastectomy will be?
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Cmom, I guess the thought of drains before you have them is horrifying, and then once you do, you adjust. Like the port. My mastectomy will be after chemo. Maybe Sept/October? Great a birthday present! I am sorry your good friend has it but it must be so helpful to have someone close to you that has been through it.
How are you doing post chemo?
Pam -
I haven't heard anyone mention a sore mouth SE. Gosh, about 4 days ago I ate 4 sweet cherries, waited an hour to see how my stomach felt, as I have had no fresh fruit or vegs. Seemed o.k. so ate about 10 more, yummy! The next morning I woke up, felt like Jack the Ripper had cleaned my teeth!! I couldn't even brush my teeth my gums are so sore. I had read not to use commercial mouthwash as it is drying, and use mild salt water. I put 1/2 sea salt in a pint of bottled water, added a couple pinches of baking soda to neutralize from acidic to neutral. I swish this around several times a day. I have also just swished a spoonful of Maalox, if it's good for the stomach... should help the mouth? I also bought a baby toothbrush today. So hoping this calms down and I don't have to feel like this for 4 months. Acidic things like fresh pineapple tend to bother me if I eat it for a few days, I just wasn't expecting sweet cherries to give this reaction.
Also, got horribly sick one day, terrible stomach cramps even vomited and I had never been sick or nausious at all. Called the onc. nurse she said a more unusual side effect can be a sudden onset of lactose intolerance, I had drank a nutrition drink that morning containing MILK.
So this is just FYI, of a couple of side effects you might be alert to.
I am editing this message: I read a couple of things... do not use whitening toothpaste ( I was) and mouth sores can be dabbed with magnesium hydroxide ( Maalox is 40%) not sure where to find pure MH.
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Got a funny..I took a potato out of the bag..rinsed it off..and discovered it was "new"..the skin just rubbed off..My husband was standing by me..and quipped..it musta had chemo too..LOL..
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Funny Doris! Like our hair! Pam
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