June 2012 Radiation Rads
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Update on the finishing early: I talked to the PA and RO today they said "if" my skin holds up and its looking good so far at 4 days... they will do 2 boosts in one day the day before I want to leave. SO I will have like and 8am and then 5:30 boost for 1 day. That will finish me in 29 days instead of 30 but with 30 treatments! Got to see all the cool cat scans today of what they are shooting at me. Its nice to see the fields and plains and how they are keeping everything away from my lungs and heart! It definatley makes me feel better about all this.
Mom of 2: I cried too, not full blown tears, but I was teary eyed the whole x-ray simulation and the whole first treatment. I had a clean pathology after chemo. I din't even question doing chemo, but I have a hard time wrapping my head around the rads
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Hi Ladies,
I'm on day two of the "Canadian" protocol - 16 days of rads. Right side. This is my second time through radiation. After completing treatment for stage IIIa triple negative bc last October (a/c chemo, lumpectomy with full axial node dissection, re-excision, 33 rounds of radiation) on my left side, I was diagnosed with DCIS in my RIGHT breast at my 6-month follow up in May. Had another lumpectomy (clean margins, .2 cm of DCIS) and now am back at the radiation department - same machine - same techs. The techs said "you could have just called us to see if we wanted to have coffee if you wanted to see us!"
Just to share my last experience, I am very light skinned and have sensitive skin as well. I have smaller breasts - b cup. I only had one area of my skin that was red - the clavicle. Everything else darkened a bit, but no real harm done. It did start to get itchy. I used aloe, calendula gel, coconut oil - at least twice a day in the beginning and more as treatment went on. I also used Aquaphor a few times when my skin felt tight. I didn't get tired until about 20 treatments in, but I was able to continue to work full time. I found it easier than chemo. I also added extra protein to my diet and drank at least 10-12 cups of water a day. I think all of this helped. I still have a bit of discoloration under my left breast, and my collarbone is a bit greyish... For awhile after rads I had some shooting pain in my breast. I continue to stretch well every day, if I don't I can feel my shoulder and chest muscles tighten up. I do yoga on a regular basis.
The oddest part of the experience the first time was when it was over and I walked out the door. After 11 months of intense treatment the feeling of being set adrift was shocking. It's hard to prepare for even knowing and reading about other women going through it. I cried on my way out to th ecare. Of course it was more shocking to be walking back for more treatment only 7 months later...
I'm hopeful that this will be my last trip through CancerLand. Hope you all get through rads with as few problems as possible.
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Love..... your just the person I want to talk to. I have been offered this but am concerned about a higher dose DAILY messing with my heart. So this is your second go round. I am interested how the next week will go for you. I have to decide by the end of next week. Because my criteria will be out of date for the trial. I am sorry your having to join us & going through this again so soon. I'm sure more will chime in. Summer time tends to be lighter on the postings. Let us know how you are doing!
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So it looks like my lungs are "good enough" to start rads after my bout of pneumonitis. Tuesday is the day!
28 days of combined whole breast and axilla (no supraclavicular) with boosts incorporated into the whole breast for the last 8 days I think it is. This is a new way of doing boosts that shortens the number of days.
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Hi Julz,
I have a heart murmur (have had forever) so my docs were concerned about my heart - had a MUGA scan before chemo started and my heart was strong. No problems with my heart after 6 rounds of A/C chemo (I had a toxic reaction to Taxol and had to stop after one round - ended up hospitalized for 6 days) and left side radiation. I ran the local Komen race a few weeks ago (2.5 weeks post surgery) and was doing fine.
Are you left or right side? More concern for left side rads with the heart.
I'll keep you updated on how next week goes!
Stay strong!
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Love I'm left sided. My mummur is really minor. Has been checked twice with Echo. My RO said there is no difference either way. I did pose the ? to the Canadians as the 16 week course is their standard of care. No response yet. I'm kinda leaning towards not doing the study. My mind is wondering....,since I can't MOVE & also have to watch my breathing!?! Likelihood of moving through 16 rounds is 1/2 as likely as 33. But if it was done on the 16 round plan my heart could potentially get zapped with a higher round than the 33 round course! See what I'm getting at? Anyway I will decide by next Wednesday I think. Either way! Thanks for the info. & input!
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Jenn I'm glad the lungs are ok. I will be thinking of you Tuesday! Let us know how your doing!
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Aaaargh. I don't finish until Monday 6th of August!!! I am doing 28 days but they told me the other week that the machines close 1 day a month for maintenance. So when I was up there the other day I asked if they could tell me what days the machine is closed over the next couple of months and it turns out that as well as a Friday in the middle of July it is closed on Friday the 3rd of August which means my last session will have to be on the following Monday :-/
This is sooo going to seem like forever isn't it?
Jenn -
Julz - I am in a research study being done at the University of Penn. 1/2 the participants will get traditional US protocol (33 tx) and 1/2 will get the Canadian protocol (16). The researchers believe we are over-radiating with the strength of todays radiation there is a push to do fewer tx and get the same result. I could have ended up in either group but I was happy to be in the shorter course. It's my left breast so I had 2 set-up days, they are very careful about the angles of radiation to avoid heart/lung involvement. Looking forward to being done, done, done!
Momof2 - I was very emotional on the table during my last set up on Wednesday! It was all I could do to make it to the changing room before I completely fell apart. I thought about what might have triggered it and I think, for ME, it was an overwhelming feeling of vulnerability. I felt very exposed laying on the table, even with the "modesty" cloth they put on my right breast which kept falling off and they insisted I not try to keep it on if it was falling. I have to say that there was just a small, but important, difference in the level of professionalism between my care in chemoland with the nurses/docs who were very professional and capable of giving me a level of comfort with all the nakedness and vulnerabilities vs the rads techs that were just a little too relaxed and chatty with each other and talking over my naked body that left me feeling really yucky. Hoping for a better experience when tx actually begins next week.
Hope everyone is feeling well, staying cool and almost finished!
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Hi Janie! Yes that's the same study my RAD center is involved with also. I'm in PA a few hours to the west of you. I'm on the fence as it's my only treatment option. But then as you said you have no idea which ARM your gonna get. If my BRCA results are not back in time I won't be in on the Trial. Good luck & many thanks for keeping me posted!
Mom...just walking into the waiting room brought tears to my eyes....I haven't been through simulation yet! But it was the realization.....it hit me! Hugs for the next go round! -
Hi everyone! For me the rads experience is way easier than the chemo. I started rads on May 31st, and I'm getting 25. Was going to do the standard Canadian 16, but because I have a TE, they are spreading it out over 25. Yesterday I had no. 17 of the 25. Since I had a left MX, I am also worried about the effect on my healthy heart and lungs, but hopefully they know what they are doing. Everything is fine, but I now have a red, sore spot higher on my chest above the breast that I keep slathering with aloe vera and Lubriderm. Don't know what 8 more radiations will do to it. Fortunately there are no other sore spots so far which I am grateful for. My daughter is getting married the week after next, and I just don't want to look like a cooked lobster in my weddng outfit. It is bad enough that I don't have any hair yet! Has anybody here heard of 'saline soaks' that one can do for the soreness and redness?
Janie, I know exactly what you mean about lying there all naked while they matter-of-factly go about their daily business. Twice this week I encountered MALE techs in there! Oh my goodness. I even had a casual discussion about different kinds of wedding cake with one of them (he's also getting married soon)lying on my back with my boobs sticking up into the air. I had the time of my life holding it together, and not bursting into an hysteric fit of laughter at the ridiculousness of the whole situation . . . what we have to go through is just crazy. A good sense of humour definitely helps a lot. Dignity is something you should just forget about while doing these treatments. LOL.
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I have always had at least one male tech. I guess for me its different though cause I am only getting one side radiated my MX side. So I wear a hosiptal gown, open to the back. They slip it off my right side and I use my left hand, out of the rads zone to hold it over my normal left boobie. I totally understand being weirded out by the whole naked in front of a guy thing. It doesn't bother me with the drs, but I have a little more trouble thinking about it with the techs... Oh well. I hope everyone is holding up well.
I am still in my "not allowed to use anything" two weeks, but I am thinking about starting the My Girls Cream. One of the ladies in the waiting room recomended it, and its been approved by her RO, who is my RO... Any experiences?
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Hi, ladies. I popped over from the May Rads board to see how everyone's doing over here. I have a male tech almost 100% of the time, and he's wonderful. I started a blog at the beginning of this whole breast cancer tornado, and I wanted to share my latest entry with you, my glowing sisters.
Male or female, we are all human beings and are aware of one another's challenges and pain.
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Minimacsmom - I am using My Girls Cream www.mygirlscream.com
My best friend works at Lahey Clinic in Boston area and their rad department recommended it to her to tell me. I guess some woman who went through BC Rads who lives in that area developed it. It is a very soothing product.
I have a male rad tech, too. He's pretty friendly. I think he's helped me get used to seeing my
missing breast. His wife works in the Rad department as well. At first I was a little put off and even offended by his rather casual style, but I've gotten used to it now. His kind of non-chalant attitude has helped calm me down.
The hospital I am going to for rads provides a massage every week (NICE, HUH?) to help with lymphedema and other issues. The very professional massage therapist told me to take my upper clothing off, get under sheet, and she would be back in.
I told her, don't worry about leaving the room. Everyone in the hospital has seen my missing breast and other breast, you might as well too!
I don't know what else to do but laugh about all this stuff. I used to be modest...
LOVEFORLIFE - oh no, you are experiencing all of our biggest fears. And you are so brave about it all.
I am thinking of you and praying for you! Thank you so much for posting here!
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It's Sunday here and I know there's a few of us June "stragglers" starting our rads this week. Group {{{{{hug}}}}} from me!
Jenn -
Add another thing to my lifestyle that could have caused my cancer... No kids, drinking, family history, and NOW working overnight shifts for 8 years! I'm sure I'm forgetting something. Hope everyone is having a SE free weekend!
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Me too Lagata! Over 9 years now on night shift! I wonder if supplementing with Melatonin would help with recurrence. I'm still gonna work nights as day shift is too nuts & I carry the health insurance for the whole family. Thanks for sharing.
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No problem Julz, but I don't believe any of it. If you're going to get it, you're going to get it. I loved working nights (so no stress there - no problems getting enough sleep), ate right, worked out, and am not overweight.
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MiniMacsMom--Congrats on your doubled up last day. It is wondeful when they recognize that you are a human being with other needs than treatment.
For all of you who are worried about 16 treatments:
I am in Canada and getting 16 treatments. I have had 13. I would go crazy if I had to go for another 12 rather than 3.
If you are offered the 16 day treatment, don't sweat it. It isn't necessarily a disaster. I like it.
I have mottled patches, and I am a bit achey in the breast, but Advil takes care of that. I am slathering myself 3x daily with Vitamin E, Calendula, La Roche-Posay Cicaplast Epidermal Recovery Accelerator, and Aveeno night time moisturizer. I just make sure I have showered and not reapplied before my treatment.
I have had a slightly different set of 3 rad techs every day for 13 days. One person might be there for only one day, others for 10 of the days. But it's not all the same folks more than once. Two or three have been men. The techs speak to me briefly as I enter the suite, but they are really concentrating on my body position and my geometry. That's OK with me, actually. I want them to get it right. We're never going to get to be close.
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Good afternoon ladies. Congrats to those almost done! It has been a long road for sure. I have had 30 treatments and only 6 more. The last 8 of mine targeting the tumor bed in my breast. The only areas I had a reaction to were my axilla area and clavicle. But those are already getting better since they are not receiving radiation any more. The breast is itchy, a little hard, and skin is VERY tan and leathery feeling. I use 100% Aloe and have a great cream for the burns called Xclair, given to me by my RO. I also use cocoa butter lotion before I stretch the area a bit and aquaphor to my nipple which thankfully has not peeled. I do have nipple pain when it becomes erect though. I think this is due to nerve damage when I had my lumpectomy though. Because I had pain prior to rads. They had to cut under the nipple to biospy calcified areas that ran across the rim of the aureola. So I have numbness and a little pain of my right nipple.
6 more to go!! So excited. Praying for you all and sending healing hugs!Denielle
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I've had 9 of my 20 treatments so far, 16 Canadia and 4 boosts sine my margin was only .5 centimeters. Left breast, stage 1. I'm 62.
My breast is red but my RO said that is common when taking Arimidex. Love having the week end off.
I feel fine, I'm happy to report. A little tired.
I share all of your concerns about lungs and heart but like it was stated earlier, hopefully they know what they are doing.
I mainly have a rotation of 4 techs, new young men and two women. They are all extremely nice and get me in and out quickly. I don't have any trouble keeping still and at this point I just close my eyes and pray.
I'm using Aloe Vera 99% and Aguaphor.
I didn't have chemo.
My heart goes out to all of you beautiful women. My heart breaks for those of you who are so young.
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Congrats to all of you that are almost done with your treatments. I start Radiation tomorrow... 5 x's a week for 7 weeks. I'm scared, but trying to focus on week #7 !!
Have any of you had radiation with tissue expanders in?? We weren't sure about my having to have radiation at all until two weeks ago. My PS said we will just watch and hope for the best. Any experience out there?? -
Thank you All for responding on the Canadian protocol! Much is in the air as to whether this is a go or not for me. It really helps to have a personal view!
As a CNA who works with males....sometimes it's uncomfortable for me as a female to do care on other females as well as males with a MALE CNA as apposed to with a FEMALE CNA. I find them to be blasé about the whole thing. In reality as a whole medical workers have seen em ALL! Please don't take that wrong, but they are there to take care of our Cancer, illnesses. I as well of others I have worked with are much more concerned with the visual to see if something that might be amiss, potentially wrong. We are extra eyes & ears for the Drs & in my case the RNs as well. Many times we pick up on things that even we as patients might miss. I hope in some small way eases your minds! With that said I too get a little uncomfortable at times! ; ) -
Hi everyone,
I was wondering what those of you who have more experience with rads (I have only had 5 treatments), use for a bra - do you buy a certain one, or do you use camisoles instead or what? I am working 2 days a week now so for those days I would need it not to be obvious that I wasn't wearing a bra if I wasn't.
Any suggestions, please? Thanks.
Pam
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Tomorrow will be tx 10 of 30 - this is just flying by, so much quicker and easier than chemo!
I have a male tech every day, and I just love him. I highly suspect that he's gay, but frankly I've shown my boobies to enough doctors and nurses and techs in the last 8 months that I figure, what's one more guy?
All of you talk about covering your non-radiated breast. My tech slips my arms out of the gown and lines up my tattoos - then gently lays the gown back over my entire chest so nothing is showing, then radiates me. Is anyone else doing "covered" radiation?
I will be thinking about everyone starting this week - good luck to you all!!! xoxo
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I was covered during rads some of the may thread were jealous
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I was covered as well. Just a quick flip of the robe to line up tattoos between treatments to each area. BUT they have to do it uncovered during my final 8 to the tumor bed. Has to do with intensity of beam and distance from the machine. They have a cutout on the end of a tube that was cut to outline my tumor bed area. This is lowered to just above my breast and the treatments are administed. You even get a pillow and a comfy pad to lay on. And I only have to raise the one arm with no poles to grab onto lol. Much more relaxing and very quick.
Denielle
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Pam - try the ahh bra (you can get it through amazon). Buy one size larger than needed. It's basically just an extra layer of cloth, but it's totally comfortable. I've had 14 treatments so far.
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Good Sunday evening to all,
I had a lot to catch up on I have been away for several days. I have primarily male techs and I like them much better than the female tech that joins them some days. The guys just seem to go about their business , but she just seems way to something, not quite consecending or arrogant, but that is how it seems to me. We have sort of snarled at each other about a couple of issues. I took 3 days off last week, they will be added to the end. I had to travel for some family business, I wish I had those 3 days done, but I will get there. 11 down and not sure how many to go. Originally my RO said 30, but this week was kind of non committal about 25 or 30. The extra 5 would be a boost to the scar tissue (MX no reconstruction) I am having alot of itching but am told it is becasue of sun damage over the years UGH. Otherwise no SE's. Hydrocortizone and sween creem are helping.
Grumpy, grumpy, grumpy but so much going on other than my BC. So a combination of all
Wishing everyone an SE free week.
Nel
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Off to my first rads treatment! Good luck to those of you starting today and tomorrow!!
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