it's been quite a year
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Orangemat this is a great forum and thank you for this and all of the others that have joined it. I seem to have been in a daze since this journey started, able to be buoyant and stoic to the outside world and a mess within my own world. Not knowing how to explain how I really feel, BC has changed me and I know that when I discuss my feeling my OH is supportive but it raises fears for them so I have now become silent. This forum is brilliant, my support where I can turn up just as me. I know I will turn a corner and my fears will dissappear and my new me will become my normal, but it is early days and if it takes two years I have some time to go.
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I hope some day I can feel at peace with all that has happened and accept that I am the way I am. I also didn't like the way my original breasts looked after having four children, but I would not have done anything about it. I think it is somewhat ironic that they have been changed anyway.
I think part of my problem is that I have presented a very positive, can do, get up and carry on front to my family and friends without letting too many in on the reality of how it has affected me. Time had better be the big healer it has promised to be! -
Suzy - same here. I always out on a brave face and just told everyone that I'm just doing what I have to do. End of story. No sob story here, at least not outright. Everyone says "oh, you're so strong to make that decision. I don't know if I could make that choice". Oh, yeah you could, and would have to. I didn't ask to have to make this decision but what was I going to do? Cry about it to everyone? No, put on the brave face and move forward. Maybe that's why it hits me so hard, because I'm always trying to keep the brave face to the outside and sometimes it just hurts so bad inside.
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Lauren, it's lucky that we can come here and really tell it like it is with us. I'm giving myself a day off, snuggled up with a blanket (it's cold here today), watching bad telly and reading these forums. I've realized that I can admit when I'm having a tough time and it doesn't mean that I'm not coping well overall, I'm only human!
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Hello everyone. I am usually pretty positive about things and push through what I need to get done but today just took the wind out of me. I have been dealing with lingering issues of frozen shoulder and lymphedema and an eye condition called episcleritis and have been waiting for months for a rheumatology appt to see what is causing all my inflammation. It was supposed to be next week. They called today to say there was a scheduling error and she was double booked so I can't get in till the end of July. I am so angry about this. I have had my sights set on the 19th as the date I will figure out what is going on and I would have the summer to get better before school starts again. Now I won't even be seen till the end of July and then we will probay do tests and nothing will be changed when I go back to school. I am stuck once again and there is nothing I can do to change it. It has revealed some anger at having no control over my health that I had not realized was there. I am looking into another hospital to see if I can get in sooner. Ugh!!!
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That sucks Ginger, the only time I lost the plot and became really angry since this all began was when my op date were changed, it really did my head in. There was no apology or recognisation that this may turn my life upside down. Hope that you can find another hospital that will see you earlier.
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I've put on a brave face my entire life. When I was diagnosed, I thought, hell with that brave face! So I thought I let it all out through this LONG journey. People are still telling me I am so positive. Well, since Chemo is over, I am more positive. During surgery and Chemo, I was just plain mean because of steroids! Now I am in Rads.
There are so many emotions to process during this journey, it is hard to fit them all in. I felt things I never felt before in my life. And I do believe someway, somehow, if those emotions aren't dealt with as we go along, they will force us to do so at some future point.
How do we figure it all out???
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1openheart and crystalphm- Your posts touched me so much and I appreciated all that you said. Your kind words really touched me. 1openheart- I agree with you that authenticity comes from within and in some ways this whole experience has gotten me in touch with that part of myself. (But I will never EVER say something good has come of BC!) Maybe I should have chosen a different word. The authenticity I was speaking of was more of a physicality thing. There were always things I wanted to change about myself (who doesn't?) but I had come to love myself- warts and all. I was comfortable in my own skin and it showed in my confidence. I didn't need Botox and boob jobs to feel beautiful and I guess I pitied women who did. (No offense to anyone who indulges in either.) Now, through these circumstances, I somehow felt lumped together with them and it's changed me. There is a woman on my block who thought she was small breasted. (Actually she was the same size I am now.) Anyway, she had augmentation to make herself feel more sexy but no one really thinks she is because they know it's fake. I know the circumstances are different in that she chose for vanity while I'm trying to replace an amputated appendage but somehow it's become the same in my mind. I know it's not, and I know it's something I need to work on, but wanted to share how I've been feeling. But your thoughts and observations about the inner authentic me is really where I should be focusing on. That is where the healing can be found.
Ginger- I know what it's like to be dealing with multiple health issues and feeling overwhelmed. It's hard to know where to focus and when you finally figure it out and get an appointment with someone there's a lot riding on that date. It's the day you hope that someone will have the answer for what ails you, and knows how to fix it, so you can get on with your life. Doctors need to realize we're not making appointments for the fun of it. We're usually in some kind of distress and need to be seen now. They should have done everything possible to accomodate you even if it meant the doctor had to come in early, leave late or skip their golf or tennis game. It's not right to keep you hanging for so long. I say play the cancer card, play up your symptoms, be the sqeaky wheel, whatever it takes to be seen sooner. Would it be possible for them to order the tests ahead of time so your first appointment the doctor can go over the results? I would try to speak to the doctor's PA and explain your concerns. They are the doctor's right hand and may know of a way to move the process along. Hope you can work something out so you don't have this hanging over your head all summer. (((hugs)))
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Thanks Kate. That is exactly how I feel. This dr is at a local hospital and only works there one day a week. She is at a larger hospital the rest of the week that is in another state. She does not have a PA. I put a call into my BS at Mass General and am trying to be seen up there. I don't want to waste the time that I have off waiting for the first appt. Keeping my fingers crossed...
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Ginger48 - I think you have a good plan and I'm confident that you'll be seen sooner rather than later. Good luck to you!
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Love the thread girls. I still think about BC all the time. I have my exchange /reduction/lift surgery along with biopsy of lump in good breast on Tuesday. I had to tell a coworker that I couldn't go somewhere last week because I had PT. I couldn't believe it but I started crying. I honestly didn't even want to say it because I feel like this sick old person that always has doctor appointments. I, too, feel like people must be tired of hearing my issues. The truth is that I actually don't talk about it much except to a few chosen family members, but I think because I'm thinking about it all the time, I feel like it is out there. I think the mental life of a breast cancer patient is totally separate from our social life. If people only knew that I am actually a totally changed person on the inside and the damage done to the psyche.
In regards to radiation.... That was extremely difficult and a very hard and emotional time. I felt such a personal accomplishment when I finished that and I felt like I had climbed that mountain pretty alone. -
Am really glad to have found this thread! I had my exchange / lift 6 weeks ago and have been struggling more with this one than all the other surgeries. The pain isnt as bad. I think its because my life has changed completely - I won't have my job to go back to, my relationships with so many people have changed (some better, some worse. Some A LOT worse lol) and I have lots of anxiety about my health now which is hard to get into perspective at times. And now I have to re-start everything and I'm not quite sure where to start. Its pretty overwhelming.
A good friend was surprised today when I had a pain hit which stopped my in my tracks (nerve re-growth I think) and said to me 'Oh, is that still hurting? I thought you were ok by now.' to which I replied something along the lines of, actually I've just hidden it from you all because I think you're bored of hearing about it. She laughed. But she didn't disagree!
It's a bit isolating, because I feel like I can't just talk about it, but I'm definitely not at the point to move on yet. *sigh*
Anyway, its good to know I'm not the only one feeling this way :-)
Love and hugs to everyone x -
Today was the first time I saw my sister since this whole thing happened. Had my MX in January and just had my exchange on the 6th. We were driving and I just started talking - about the dx, surgeries, doctors, etc. and she didn't even care or ask any questions. She just seemed bored. And I haven't even had these conversations with her face to face before. I feel like to everyone this is old news. But it's not really. Since when in 8 months old news???
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Lauren so sorry your sister is an insensitive B....no 8 months is new and still very raw for you. I had a similar thing today with a best friend really MIA. She phoned to ask about an unrelated matter and as she was saying goodbye she asked me about that "rash thing" I had....the rash thing was my skin which had broken down after rads plus a fungus on top of it all OMG pain like third degree burns. Now this is not my sister but I'm sure you feel
like I do and even worse....I'm sorry for both of us...we have to be around more compassionate people right now because we DESERVE THAT. Hugs from me anyway. -
Lauren....what's the deal with sisters? Mine lives in another city and she never once called to check on me through this whole thing. I called her to let her know about my biopsies and results. I called to let her know that my BRAC tests were negative. My husband called to let her know I was through surgery. I called to let her know my nodes were clear. That was the last time I talked with her until we saw each other at a family function 5 mos later. I really did not expect anything different from her, but I guess I was hoping something like CANCER would jar her into acting like a sister for heaven's sake! Luckily I have wonderful friends who are like real sisters to me and who I love dearly. Sometimes the very best family are the ones we choose.
Lauren, sometimes I think that the cancer thing is such a real fear for some, that they cannot even get close enough to it to be close to someone affected by it. Very sad.
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Your posts today so resonate with me, thank you for being here and for being so open. As one friend once told me we do not choose our family but we do choose our friends.
I have tried to tell my sister about my recent induction to the BC world without much success. After my visit to my Onco I was informed that my sister should ensure that she has regular mammos and lets her GP know about me so she is watched more carefully. She did not want to know anything, she just brushed me aside like I was an annoyance. I have to say I have had more compasssion and care from my work colleagues and friends. Family can be a bit of a mixed bag at times.
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I would have thought that my sister would have been on the first flight after my MX in January. My cousin flew back east from Arizona.... S when I was telling my cousin what was going on with my sister and what I expected (there was my first mistake - having expectations of people) she said maybe it was a big sister thing, how we felt. We're both the older sister and our younger sisters are kind of different in that more out of touch sort of way. Maybe... But we've unfortunately each been hurt by our sister or best friend, which I know can be as hurtful.
Scottiee - rash thing? Really?
1openheart - I agree 100% on the friend thing. My friends rallied around after my MX and brought dinner, magazines, took my kids for playmates. I would have been lucky if my sister called. She got updates from my mom... -
Just in defense of sisters, mine traveled a distance to come and stay with me for the week after surgery. She has been fantastic, supportive, listens to me and even gets herself checked out better.
Sure she pulls sister crap sometimes, annoyed with me when I choose to wear this rhinestone encrusted pink ribbon, but I only do that when i am in a mood to talk and educate other women.
But I am still not "over this"....and it is why I am still here. As someone so well expressed on one of these threads, sometimes I feel strong and empowered and sometimes I feel maimed and hurt and very uncomfortable with my new body.
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I have to say my sister in laws were all wonderful. My husband's youngest sis drove up to be with him during my surgery and some of our friends showed up to sit with him too. That was helpful to me knowing that he had company during those hours of waiting.
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None of my extended family (I'm an only child) really rallied for me, let alone made me feel like they were concerned for me. I figure they're more afraid for themselves and I'm just a reminder of what horrible things could happen to them. Sad truth of the matter is that those "horrible things" have already happened because they do not have any compassion.
So contrary to the fact that my PS says I have thin skin, mine's quite thick.
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Hi everyone,
Yeah, I think the whole thing just makes people uncomfortable. And after they've done one or two things, say around the first lumpectomy, they figure they've done their part. I don't talk about my cancer, medication issues or upcoming surgery with anyone. Occasionally someone will ask the date for my upcoming surgery and what it is for. Even if they ask, it's hard to answer. I just say " Oh, I'm having my boobs redone, from the cancer, you know." I mean, what do you say, it's all so personal. Some people are just gone from my life now. I know I have isolated myself, too much has happened; the connections that remain are strained at best. I do feel wiser, more authentic. I do what I want to do, although most of that is responsibility/house/kids/job. I am certainly much more independent, resilient and stolid, than I used to be. Not much fun tho '. Not anymore. MX is one yr. on June 30th. Like to get that' life can be joyful thing' going again someday.
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mybee333.... I hope you can find your joyful self again too. I am a very upbeat person by nature. I hate to add negative energy to anything if I can help it. But, I too, have had my share of rough and dark days since my diagnosis. I've always been very open with what is going on bc wise. I have to talk about things to process them. If someone is uncomfortable with it, they usually don't ask any longer or don't come around. But, other than my sister and mother, most are pretty indulgent of my ramblings. But, if I sense that they are just being nice and are really tired of it all I try to talk about something else.
I know what you mean thought about not being much fun. I fascilate between letting it all hang out and dance in the rain kind of attitude to just being too tired to make an effort some days. Hang in there and just be open to the good things the universe has to offer you. Take care.
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I have to talk about things to process them too. That has been difficult. I think most folks got tired of hearing of it all. When my BF and I broke up, most of the couples we did things with were friends through the guys. The men were the core group and the women changed through the years. As we broke up, I think the women got squeamish bcuz they knew they could be me and suddenly without a social life. It was a nasty break up and people were uncomfortable with that. AND people were really uncomfortabe with the way he handled my cancer, which was badly. So they avoided us; then he got custody of the friends. They hang out with he and his new gf now. Sort of. He actually moved out of the county I think becuz they may have ostracized him; I really don't know. My sister and Mom are surface and fairly distant-ish. Their support is unpredictable. We don't talk about heart stuff anymore. I have work colleagues and friends who are Mom's of my son's friends. I have a couple friends I do things with socially. I have a couple of old BFs who have been kind on FB. And ......ta da.....I have BCO. That's my support. I do have a counselor at the CA ctr too, altho' I wonder if I am out of line seeing her; I think she is supposed to be primarily assisting with very, very ill people.
Orangemat - I think people are afraid it could happen to them. That was true for the break up, the cancer, the mastectomy AND his response to the whole thing. I think it freaked some people out.
I have some work people reaching out and I plan to contact them this summer
I am feeling the need for some new friends. I have heard that this is not unusual as BC does change you. I had a true BF. I don't think she had a clue of what I went through or perhaps didn't have the stomach for it. We had a disagreement, in fact, due to my changing my opinions and things. We don't speak now, sadly. But that happens. I think........
But to get back to the original post....if I look over the year, I am so, so much stronger, tougher than I was then. Much more self-reliant. And that has been very good for me. As I've heard it said: I've had breast cancer; you can't scare me!
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So if I write alot.....it's 'cuz I'm processing!
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Although its horrible to have to think this way, it is comforting to know so many of us feel the same way. It is so easy to feel isolated, feel like you can't lean on those around us for emotional support past anything physically happening to us. People by and large, apart from a few notable exceptions, have rallied around when I was first diagnosed six months ago and when I have had surgeries, although even that has dropped off after the third one. But it is the ongoing and fairly constant emotional upheaval that I really need support for and that is much harder to come by.
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Suzyblue - Everything is very recent for you. No wonder you are in fairly constant emotional upheaval. That is to be expected. i would be interested in hearing how everything has changed in your world by breast cancer, if you would like to share. It might be true for so many other women. You are quite right; it is comforting to know we are, many of us, experiencing so many similar emotions.
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Mybee333, it is like my inside world and my outside world don't mesh together anymore. There is the outer layer that everyone else sees - I'm looking wonderful so I'm told, carrying on, can do, must do attitude; then there is the skin layer that is so irrevocably altered, changed and changing beyond all my recognition, and not over yet. Doesn't look like, feel like me, red, raw, cut, numb, bruised, swollen and hurting. Each phase seems like an assault not only on my body but on all my senses.
I can show people the scars, the wounds, the bruises and they go oh that must hurt and they are right, but what they don't see and I can't show them, is how much deeper the hurt goes. Inside I feel like I have been rocked to the core. All the practical things I can do to recover don't begin to reach the place where my sadness lies. I see life, people, relationships, the future, differently.
I'm getting married in less than 3 weeks to a man who has been my friend for 28 years, we have 6 wonderful, full on children between us and a great life to look forward to. But he is not getting the woman he used to know and I only hope we can both adapt to who I am now. -
One of the most important lessons I learned in the philosophy part of my yoga teacher training several years ago (pre-BC) is that the most consistent thing about life is change. So the the flip side of that is that stagnation is death. Everything changes, evolves, and so even the crap we've all gone through with our DXs, TXs, all that, is part of the process of life. It isn't always a GOOD change, but it's how things are. Those people who've cut us off and alienated us, tried to ignore the changes we've gone through, those are the people who are resisting the natural way of life. We are in the right, not them. Don't you all ever forget that.
Hugs to all!
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Suzy - what you said is exactly how I feel. At least we all have each other here to share our ups and downs with. Stuff no one else could ever, or would ever, want to understand. Congrats on your upcoming wedding!
I've started to laugh at myself a little more in front of other people. No one wants to hear how much I'm hurting inside, so I have to laugh to wash it away. Last night my husbands family was asking me about my new boobs and how I felt about them... I just started crying, and they all kind of started laughing. Hmmm...so I started laughing. More because they made me feel like an idiot,but I couldn't keep crying. Then I let his cousin feel me up. She made me laugh for real though... -
Lauren, I don't like hearing that people are laughing at the fact that you're crying. And don't belittle your feelings just because others are. I think I said this previously on this thread, that I would joke how my nipple-sparing MX was just a "glorified boob-job". But that's not the way to be. Trivializing something like this makes other people feel better but still just puts a bandaid on it for us. The emotional pain of it all is still there, and it's not right to try to hide it or mask it with humor, just to make others feel more comfortable about it. If the people you're around can't handle your truths, you're not obligated to help them. Nor are you obligated to share with them either. As so many have been saying, this place HERE is the safe place to share. Please, don't let them do that to you.
And that said, I'm finding the less I keep coming to BCO and the other threads I participate it, the better I'm feeling about things myself. I think the constant reminders of this past year -- no, LAST year -- are preventing me from moving on. Like robo47 said, those 15 minutes of forgetting, those are the bliss moments to look forward to. Yeah, I've had those times as well, and at first it would be "damn, I forgot, but now I remember". Now lately it's more like "wow, that's great, I forgot again...".
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